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November 06, 2007
Dennis Kucinich and The Lost Crusade

Looks like Kucinich's political stunt didn't exactly win the hearts of other Democrats... but now they're stuck wit it.

House Republicans on Tuesday prevented Democratic leaders from blocking a resolution to impeach Vice President Dick Cheney.


The vote to table the privileged resolution, offered by Ohio Democrat Dennis Kucinch, began as a largely party-line vote to kill the measure, but Republicans developed a strategy to force Democrats to debate the resolution by supporting Kucinich. GOP leaders felt as though it was in their interest to debate the measure because it would make Democrats look bad.

After more than an hour of waiting for the vote to close, the motion to table the resolution failed by a vote of 162-251 after Democratic leaders failed to convince a group of liberal caucus members to side with them.

Republican lawmakers and aides credited Rep. John Shadegg (R-Ariz.) for coming up with the idea.


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House Republicans are proud of this?

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 6, 2007 11:52 PM


It is a lone individual that often sparks political or philosophical revolutions.

It pleases me more than most that the idea of impeachment will now be associated with the name Dick Cheney for as long as the Congressional record matters.

It is you, Republicans, that are saddled with the "lost crusade" of the Bush "Administration" with a disapproval rating that now exceeds that of Richard Nixon's. You, Republicans are saddled with a record of failure and incompetence that no other administration can match.

Hat tip to Dailykos.

-LiberalMind

Posted by: LiberalMind at November 6, 2007 11:56 PM


While the GOP was ensuring more time would be wasted in the House, in votes that actually counted today, the Dems took control of the governorship of Kentucky (it was a landslide, but not a surprise) and the Virginia Senate (it wasn't a landslide, but it was a surprise). Not a particularly stellar day if you ask me.

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 12:03 AM


While the fringe lefties are all about a baseless impeachment (well, not baseless, it's obviously jut their "revenge" for Clinton) it's really telling that most Democrats in congress don't want to touch impeachment with a 10-foot pole.

Posted by: KCJ at November 7, 2007 12:05 AM


Democrats have been dipping their toe in the kook kool-aid for some time now... and now they find themselves totally immersed in a damned-if-you-do, damned if you don't situation.

If they weasel out of it, they'll lose support from their kook base; if they keep going with it, they'll lose support from any moderate voter...

They've done gone and sunk themselves.

Face it... Nancy Pelosi couldn't run a one-car funeral.

Posted by: Leo Pusateri [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 12:37 AM


Rico - yes. They wanted the Democrats to confront the lunacy in their party. The lunacy that affects even its leaders.

I wish it had gone to a floor vote on the impeachment itself.

What a bunch of wackos.

Posted by: Kahn [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 12:41 AM


Rico, here in Virginia several of the "Republicans" running were big time RINO's. The Democrats here have started really backing the 2nd Amendment. It started with Mark Warner when he became governor (he'll win the John Warner Senate seat also). Meanwhile the Republicans went the other way.

I was lamenting on this the other day. The Democrat in one of the areas near me was avid pro-gun and the Republican was avid anti-gun. Guess what? Thats all the shift that was needed. When I got my "American Rifleman" this month it graded the people running for every office. The shift is unmistakable. The Republicans can't expect the NRA membership to vote for them if the are anti- second Amendment.

Posted by: Kahn [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 01:12 AM


Ricorun,

The Democrats gained the VA Senate - but a few hundred votes going the other way, and the VA Senate would have stayed GOP...and given that the GOP in VA had three key retirements, it really isn't that ringing an endorsement of the Democrats. Meanwhile, in KY, a scandal-plagued Republican was ousted by a Democrat who ran on a Republican platform...another "stealth" win for Democrats who's liberalism is anethema in most of the nation.

And, of course, Barbour cruised to an easy re-election victory in MS...and this after we GOPers took the governorship of Louisiana...I'll call 2007 a wash, with the GOP coming out slightly ahead as we nearly beat a Democrat in MA.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 01:25 AM


Leo,

That is pretty much it - but my larger worry is the level of hatred this action by represents. I mean, come on!, Cheney is out of office in 14 months...its pointless to bring impeachment at this point, even if he had done something wrong. Pure, unadulterated hatred is the only way to explain why Kucinich made this proposal...this is the stuff with which civil wars are made.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 01:29 AM


Mark, thats exactly why a one hour speech by Kooky Kucinich followed by a vote would have been good for America. It would have put his agenda and his hatred right out there in flood lights and on TV for all to see.

Blah, Blah, hate, blah, blah, UFO, blah, blah, blood for oil, blah, blah.

Posted by: Kahn [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 01:55 AM


Kahn,

It might be salubrious all around if things really were made cut and dried for the American people - if we could really get the left to openly campaign for what they want. At least then, win or lose, everyone would know what they are getting...of course, Pelosi, Reid, et al don't want any of that at all...they just want power, and they know that "leftism" = "no power".

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 02:12 AM


It's pretty obvious why the aliens left him here.

Posted by: SEW [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 07:05 AM


Republicans are saddled with a record of failure and incompetence that no other administration can match.


You do realize that Bush has won against the Democratically controlled Congress ON EVERY SINGLE ISSUE this year, right?

The Surge
FISA
NSA
Mukasey
etc, etc.

And, without having sent a single appropriations bill to the Presidents desk, the Democrats in Congress felt obligated to waste another day of taxpayer money trying to impeach Cheney.

Now that's incompetence.

Posted by: neocon [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 08:04 AM


It's pretty obvious why the aliens left him here.

Yeah, but what does it say about the voters in his district. They must have all come from the same Mother Ship.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 08:04 AM


Cheney needs to grab Dennis Kucinch by them big ol spock ears and take him on a huntin trip

Posted by: Eric T [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 11:36 AM


Hat tip to Dailykos. -LiberalMind

You're kidding right?!?

Did the Dailykooks also mention that Nancy Pelosi's led Congress has an even lower positive rating?

Stop drinking the kos koolaid and think. I know it will be a challenge, but one well worth it.

Posted by: TiredofLibBullShit [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 12:34 PM


Eric T,

ROTFLMAO!!!

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 7, 2007 01:54 PM


Some of the Republicans may have voted for it precisely to distance themselves from Bush. I know Bush is popular here in BlogsFORBush.com land--- but I gotta secret for you.... George W. Bush is extremely unpopular, almost as unpopular as the Congress. And Cheney is even less popular than other Bush or the Congress... AND he has broken the law... AND he got us into a war which has cost trillions of dollars and created vast turmoil just to build a school in Iraq and get some dopey tinhorn dictator executed.

Voting to let the impeachment measure go forward may be a good move politically as well as tactically.

Also, it would be useful to actually have hearings. One of the unfortunate things about the 1998 impeachment is that no meaningful hearings were ever held. The GOP relied on Ken Starr's work when the Congress could have done its own investigation.

Posted by: Timothy Horrigan at November 7, 2007 09:41 PM


I'll call 2007 a wash, with the GOP coming out slightly ahead

This is classic. "Sure, we lost a lot more than we won, but I'll call it a wash. In fact, I'll call it a victory!"

Posted by: Tractatus at November 7, 2007 10:14 PM


Mark: I'll call 2007 a wash, with the GOP coming out slightly ahead.

The state senate in Mississippi also switched from Rep to Dem hands yesterday. That makes two more southern states that are now blue in both houses. Why is that important? One word: redistricting. Next year is going to be equally important in that regard. I may be off a bit (I'm going from only memory, which is getting hazy), but I believe the Dems now control both houses in 28 states to the Rep's 15. But if I'm right, things are looking like they're going to be very different in 2010 than they were in 2000.

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2007 12:31 AM


I must correct myself. According to this article the Dems now control both houses in 23 states, the Reps 14, and 12 statehouses are divided (you can't run according to party affiliation in NE).

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2007 12:40 AM


Retired Spook,

ROTFLMAO????

Posted by: Eric T [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2007 09:53 AM


Kahn: Rico, here in Virginia several of the "Republicans" running were big time RINO's.

State Sen. Kenneth W. Stolle (R-Virginia Beach) had this to say: Republican losses yesterday, even in solidly GOP districts, he said, were more often the result of a candidate being too conservative for the moderate direction most voters want Virginia to take.

"If you want to take a look at who's winning in the Republican Party, it's middle-of-the-road Republicans who have not moved too far to the right that they're considered extremists," he said.

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2007 11:14 AM


Kahn: Rico - yes. They wanted the Democrats to confront the lunacy in their party. The lunacy that affects even its leaders. I wish it had gone to a floor vote on the impeachment itself.

If that happens wouldn't that require those that voted for it the first time explain why they were against it the second time? I mean how do you explain that without (a) looking like a flip-flopper, or (b) admitting you were a cheap trick artist engaging in politics as usual? Either way it doesn't reflect well.

Posted by: Ricorun [TypeKey Profile Page] at November 8, 2007 11:40 AM