You're right, our electins shouldn't be bought and paid for by foreign business interests, it should be bought and paid for by American business interests!
Politicians should wear the logos of their supporters on their jackets like NASCAR stars, then when they speak before the American people, we know who's really talking.
Nice conjecture Mark... any non-circumstantial evidence?
Oh, and by "foreign business interests" do you mean the Saudis and Dubai Ports World?
Rana,
If you can't see it, then you are just bound and determined not to see it - you don't get that kind of money out of the impoverished areas of Chinatown. Period. End of story.
Now, if you want to close your eyes to what is right in front of you, then there's nothing more to be said.
Cheating to beat us is OK, because we deserve it. Thats the reason, isn't it jayhay and Rana? Any means necessary. Right?
If only these chinese immigrant dishwashers and waiters realized that Hillary wants to communize America the same way the ChiComs have done to China...you know the utopia China they left to come to America.
Time will tell if these illegal contributions get spiked by the lib media. I'm guessing they will cover-up until after the primaries.
Jana,
You do know Bill Clinton is/was a paid lobbyist for the Dubai Ports deal? I guess that means Hillary actually received money from that deal. Please brush up on the truth next time.
Nebraska - these people aren't donating to Hillary. This is almost certainly a bunch of straw man and hence illegal donations from sources as yet unknown. When proven, many felonies. Clinton will deny all knowledge just as she has in the past.
I hear Hillary is still looking for the donors on that $850,000 in illegal bundled contributions from the criminal ChiCom Hsu. Last I heard she is hiring OJ to look for em'.
This story does sound fishy but just because Mark thinks the MSM will cover up this story (even though this article was in the LA times), won't some federal agency (under gop stewardship)be lookng into these fishy contributions? If there is illegality don't you trust the Bush led government to find it?
Rana,
Do you suppose there exists any alleigiance to Dubai by the Clintons considering Bills exhorbitant speaking fees?
- Nov. 15, 2005 Abu Dhabi, UAE Global Business Enterprises $300,000
- Nov. 28, 2005 Dubai, UAE Leading Minds $125,000
$425 Large within two weeks to hear Billy Boy. I wonder what favors they'll aks for?
Nice conjecture Mark... any non-circumstantial evidence?
"When a man and a woman are discovered naked in bed in a hotel room, it is unreasonable to infer that they are there only to test the softness of the mattress."
gene,
The LA Times story IS a cover up...don't you remember the 90's? This is how all the Clinton scandals were covered in the press...as if it were all so mysterious and alleged wonder if the Clintons had any knowledge of all that was going on...
My problem with the Clintons - going back to 1992 - wasn't so much their liberalism (that is just a thing with them, for the most part), but the fact that they are just amazingly dishonest...they are, essentially, on the take...though the "take" in their case isn't so much the money, but the power it provides. They will say or do anything to obtain and retain power...and they also know the drill: the MSM will cover for them, fellow Democrats will cover for them, and both MSM and Democrats will eagerly rebroadcast whatever smear they put out about the people pointing out the corruption.
Mark, are you sure you did not hear this on Hannity or Limbaugh. This is classic swift-boating. No evidence, just mud slinging.
Plane,
Well, the story is from the LA Times, and I don't know if Rush or Hannity have picked it up yet...as for me, it was the crack research team of the blogosphere which broughtit to my attention (ie, some of you commenters saw it waaaay before I did).
Mark: as for me, it was the crack research team of the blogosphere which brought it to my attention.
Gee... then how could it possibly NOT be true? Bwaaahaaaahaaa!!
The blogosphere has proven to be very good at bringing things to one's attention. The truth value of those things are far more suspect. Unfortunately, many people pay attention to the former and not much -- if at all -- to the latter.
Ricorun,
True, and when one reads the MSM these days things have to be sifted for the truth - which is why this LA Times piece is rather clearly a cover up for some major fundraising criminality on the part of the Clinton campaign.
plain, you need to get a new dictionary. As much as you seem wedded to the use of the term "swiftboating" you consistenly misuse it.
It really means to use evidence and eyewitness accounts to correct inaccurate or fraudlent statements made by a third party.
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The Clintons have always had strong ties to China. Anyone remember Johnny Huang? Clinton gave him a job asdeputy assistant secretary for international economic affairs at Commerce, responsible for Asian trade matters. He later moved on to become a fund raiser for the DNC, raising $3.4 million for the party and its campaign, mostly from the Asian American community. (Some internal DNC records indicate that Huang may have started his fund-raising before leaving his Commerce job---a violation of the Hatch Act.)
DNC The DNC later said it returned nearly half of the money, determining that “it was improperly raised or came from questionable donors, some of them from overseas.”
Huang organized the fund-raiser at the Hsi Lai Temple outside Los Angeles, where Vice President Al Gore helped collect $140,000 in the fund-raiser he said he did not know was a fund-raiser, though his e-mails said he could not attend functions because he had to attend a fund-raiser in L.A. that night.
Huang, though identified as a foreign agent by our national security agencies, was given a top security clearance demanded by Clinton, and was invited by Clinton to attend top secret security briefings, over the objections of military leaders and security agencies. He was also a guest in the White House on many occasions, and accompanied the Clintons on a trip to Asia.
Of course, it COULD just be a coincidence that Clinton personally overrode a long-standing prohibition on the sale of certain technology to certain countries, allowing an Arkansas buddy to make billions by selling previously restricted software and electronics to China. China said this was to allow them to improve their air traffic control systems—I guess it was just a bonus that it also allowed them to target American cities.
Then there was Charlie Trie—not a busboy, but the owner of a small Chinese restaurant in Little Rock, whose friendship with the Clintons seemed to be very profitable—even after his import-export business failed, he was able to donate, or claim to donate, something like $450,000 to the Clinton legal defense fund, which just happened to be mostly in numerically sequential money orders, supposedly from different people in different cities, but all apparently signed in the same handwriting.
His connections with the Clintons were pretty good—he was able to arrange a White House coffee invitation for Chinese arms-trader Wang Jun.
And of course there are the other characters from the Clinton years, involved in all sorts of campaign finance chicanery, much of it involving reimbursing people for contributions made to the DNC. These included Maria Hsia, Nora and Gene Lum, Johnny Chung, and Robert Lee.
Most recently was the Hsu situation, which should have been a real scandal but managed to avoid stirring up much outrage. According to the Washington Post, “Many of the Clinton donors whose contributions were refunded last month were alleged to have been strong-armed by Hsu, or reimbursed by Hsu for the checks they wrote, according to a criminal complaint filed by the Justice Department.”
I’ve noticed that it seems to be the radical element of the far Left which has made the most noise about the fact that China owns so much American debt, yet these same people seem pretty unperturbed by the long history of the Clintons trading favors which include national security to the Chinese in exchange for extravagant financial contributions.
So now it’s busboys—the occupations change, but the corruption remains the same.
Almiranta, you mentioned a while back about getting together an outside discussion group. Still interested?
Been listening to a lot of dismissive Democrats on TV tonight talking about this. The fact that some of these donors can't be found and that some say they did not in fact donate is not being mentioned. Instead, they are attacking the author for describing the area as poor.
Well now, I don't really know what happened. But the Clinton campaign demonstrably received significant illegal contributions in the past. Surely our liberal posting friends would agree that this is worthy of investigation? Surely, like us you just want to know the truth?
Agreed? Investigate and find out the truth?
”Almiranta, you mentioned a while back about getting together an outside discussion group. Still interested?”
If you 2 decide yes, I’d be highly interested (if invited) to be a part of it too.
Kahn,
They are circling the wagons on this one - it does make one ask: what is it with the Clintons which makes Democrats willing to fall on their swords for them? Don't they remember the Democrat party meltdown which happened in the 90's courtesy of the Clintons? Don't they remember "don't ask, don't tell"? Triangulation? Geesh...
...but the general scarcity of liberal comments on this thread also shows that this has caught them by surprise...they haven't got the full talking points out yet...
If you 2 decide yes, I’d be highly interested (if invited) to be a part of it too.
Heck, yes, DM, the more the merrier.
When will the Federal Election Commission and our
lax Department of Justice START to look into the
dubious, fundraising scheme and funneling of funds
from Soros?, as ANYONE knows, these people would not have the money, (half don't even vote) and one
of them in April, went to the fundraiser, but said
he DID NOT DONATE, but HIS NAME was on the list-
When, in the hell, will the GOP, look into the
Clinton Schemes on NOT ONLY fundraisers(can you say Hsu of late, that got quieted down by the MSM-
Just like ALL the negatives on the Clinton's. Why
do we in America, just "accept the Clinton's false
words, and say duhhh, they said so, so it must be
true..........It is NEVER the truth with these two
Power/Money Mongers, and their lust for a return to the Whitehouse. Where as I say, is the DOJ,
GOP, Fed.Election Comm. on this, as THIS, IS YET ANOTHER OF THE CLINTON'S HIDING THEIR DONORS, AND
MONEY LAUNDERING. PERIOD. They think they are above the laws, and can do Anything they want.-they continually get a MSM PASS. Time to Stop it All. The Clinton's are phoney, and look in on:
Google Video: Obstruction of Justice-"The Mena Connection" You can see what they've done since
days with the Arkansas Mafia.
Hey, no outside discussions...unless I'm invited...and there's beer.
Mark: Hey, no outside discussions...unless I'm invited...and there's beer.
Did someone say beer?
This reminds me of the 1994 and 2000 campaign finance scandals. Monks "donating" thousands to the Clinton's and Gore.
But, McCain-Feingold was to have fixed that.
Ah, more of the same from the libs.
Spook, DM--you betcha. Mark---you bring the beer.
I don't know about you guys, but I was drawn to the blogoshere in hopes of being able to discuss issues. Mark and Matt have done a great job in establishing this blog, but it is so polluted by radical Lefties that actual discussion of actual issues is very difficult.
Any ideas? Another blogger here has talked with me, off-blog, about setting up a web site or blog where we could talk. I am pretty computer-baffled, so this is outside my skill set.
I'm more interested in addressing problems and issues than in merely offering opinions.
Almiranta: Agree totally with you on this, but it
is sooo frustrating, when we blog, to bring these
issues to the forefront, in hopes that the "powers
that be" may pick up on them and ACTUALLY do something, and that our own GOP would step up to the plate. But seems like all our efforts fall on 'deaf ears'