"It's not who votes that counts, it's who counts the votes," Joseph Stalin

House Dmocrats acting in the finest tradition of Uncle Joe...he would be proud.

"You know, we GOPers ditched the extreme right back in the 1960's"... Posted by Mark Noonan at August 4, 2007 03:19 AM

Can't stop laughing at this one. I think the likes of Hannity, Savage, O'Reilly are very much a part of the GOPers extreme right 2000's. Who can forget a regular on Fox, Ann Coulter when she said, We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee,"

At least the Democrats in control will convene a Select Committee to examine if any wrongs were done. Back in the day of the GOP majority no such "oversight' would have taken place.

For the Rats to sell their souls, one must assume they had one in the first place...

I would love to know what the "glitch" was. I know alot about computers, and this seems very suspiscious. It says the computers were working, but the projectors just suddenly stopped working. Of course I don't know how their system is set up, but something is fishy.

plainjane - clearly, clearly you've never actually listened to O'Reilly. And that means you're posting out of ignorance. Comfortable there? In ignorance?

At least the Democrats in control will convene a Select Committee to examine if any wrongs were done.

Democrats examining Democrats? Sort of like having the fox guard the hen house, I'd say.

Mark, your point is very accurate, regarding the position the so-called moderate Dems are in now that they won their seats. I remember us discussing this on this blog during the election, talking about the awkward position these people were going to find themselves occupying once they actually had to vote on anything. They ran as conservatives, but would be up against the new radical Democrat base, and we discussed being able to watch them squirm.

I don't see much of substance from the Usual Suspects here, just predictable knee-jerk name calling instead of addressing the fact that the Dems are desperate and will stoop to anything to get their way. I guess the real point of this whole thread will be to prove that the most radical of the Dems know their own kind, and know they can count of them to react exactly as Cav and jane have.

Remember the Lib hysteria when the Republcans extended the voting time? They didn't change any votes, they didn't block any votes, they didn't erase any votedthey didn't do anything but extend the allotted time. The rabid Libs burned up the blogs with their OUTRAGE and, well, with their OUTRAGE. (They are kind of a one-note group.)

BTW...after the computer "glitch", and the projector went down...the mikes on the Republican side 'malfunctioned'. But of course none of this is suspicious...Nancy Pillosi assures us.

At least the Democrats in control will convene a Select Committee to examine if any wrongs were done.

You're partially correct, Cav--the Donkaroaches will convene a committee to determing that they did nothing wrong.

Ann Coulter when she said, We need somebody to put rat poisoning in Justice Stevens' creme brulee,"

Well then, plainmaryjane, you should report this "threat" to IQofZero or stevomoron. They'll know what to do...

Cavalor - please cite a similar occurrence of a Republican House Leader gaveling a win on a vote he had lost.

Almiranta,

It is rather fun to wath, though, isn't it? Especially as we still have a GOP President and enough real GOP Senators to block anything really stupid from happening...but it also shows we have to work with a will in 2008 to ensure that no more power accrues in Democrat hands...they can't be trusted with it. This, by the way, is what comes when a political party goes into the wilderness, spends 12 years saying "we wuz robbed!" rather than rethinking their views, and then comes back into power by chicanery...

plane,

Regardless of what one thinks of Savage (and I think he's a bully) he isn't a kook - he doesn't weave paranoid conspiracy theories to explain why the world isn't working his way...a kook is someone who is convinced that he'd win if only "they" would allow it to happen. From Florida to Afghanistan, the kook left is convinced that all that has happened since 2000 has been the result of machinations by BusHitler...they can't admit they lost because they suck, so they make up paranoid conspiracy theories to cover the gap between reality and their worldview.

The problem for the Democrats is that they allow these kooks a place at the mainstream political table. And as a result of this kookery in high Democratic places, there are calls for impeaching the President, rather than a serious effort to get things done and shape a coherent message for the 2008 campaign.

Mark
I could give your claim some credence if after the 2006 election Bush made some concessions to the victorious. This is a democracy. You can give any spin you want on why the Republicans lost but in the end the will of people spoke for a new direction. But what have we gotten from the administration since 2006, nothing but veto threats? From our perspective we see an arrogant and paranoid Executive Branch using every trick in the book to increase Presidential powers in an effort to say they know what is best for the 70% who don’t agree with them. Powers that previous Presidents knew, if used, could mean we are on a slippery slope towards the end of the Republic. The stakes are extremely high. If impeachment is needed to save the Republic then I am all for it. If it is merely a sideshow as in the 90’s, I agree with you there are more serious needs.

Plane,

Rumsfeld was fired and a completely new strategy in Iraq was implemented - just what the Democrats campaigned on (during those rare instances they actually ran on something other than "hate the Republicans"). We gave you precisely what you asked for.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 5, 2007 03:16 AM

Believe it or not I had actually put the firing of Rumsfeld as the only thing Bush did after the election into my earlier post, but after careful thought deleted it. The firing of Rumsfeld was more of a gift of cover for the the remaining Republicans still on board. In addition who is to say Rumsfeld also disagreed with the surge and had to be replaced, just as so many Generals who disagreed with the increase escalation of our troops into the Iraqi Civil war.