Wait just a second, I thought lying to Congress was against the law.

Oh yeah, only for Bill Clinton.

Excellent. However, I would have pardoned him.

I thought lying to Congress was against the law - pm

um.....do some homework before spouting off. Clinton lied to a GRAND JURY, UNDER OATH.

Libby got his dates crossed up under oath to a special prosecutor, who had, and still hasn't any intention of going after the real perpetrator, Richard Armitage.

mark mark bo bark......
what happened to the rule of law conservatives?

So a convicted felon doesn't have to go to jail, Sounds like something Clinton would have done.

Neocon-

He is still a convicted felon, just your convicted felon. So I guess it is okay then, right? Bush is a turd and so is Libby.

dear marcus commutas

"Only 21% in a March Gallup Poll favored a pardon for Libby in the case. Of the remainder of Americans, 67% opposed a pardon for the former aide."

remember.....being a great president involves sometimes making unpopular decisions.....

Oooohhhhh - potty mouth.

He is still a convicted felon, just your convicted felon. So I guess it is okay then, right? - b.e.l.

I have an exercise for the class. Which of the two crimes, Libbys or Bergers, do you think is of more importance?

Libby his dates mixed up during the course of interrogation into a crime wherein the perpetrator is already known or:

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Former National Security Adviser Sandy Berger was sentenced Thursday to community service and probation and fined $50,000 for illegally removing highly classified documents from the National Archives and intentionally destroying some of them.

Geez, I wonder what those docs were that he destroyed before going in front of the 9/11 commission?

God bless you President George W. Bush, the greatest president in american history.

I don't excuse Berger and don't know how he got off without jail time, expecially with Abu Gonzalez as Attorney General. Maybe Bush should impose a tougher sentence, what do you think neocon?

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It should have been a full pardon.

Okay neocon,
I'm all for sending Sandy Berger to jail if that was what his sentenced was. Are you suggesting that since a democrat criminal got off easy, a republican criminal should also?

This is what Obama said about this commutation and it is spot on IMHO....

"This decision to commute the sentence of a man who compromised our national security cements the legacy of an Administration characterized by a politics of cynicism and division, one that has consistently placed itself and its ideology above the law. This is exactly the kind of politics we must change so we can begin restoring the American people’s faith in a government that puts the country’s progress ahead of the bitter partisanship of recent years."

History will record this as a great day. Scooter Libby is an American hero who tried to expose the lies of Joe “the liar” Plame-Wilson. The tragedy is that Plame-Wilson will probably never serve a day in jail for his crimes.

My respect for President Bush has gone up for this brave and principled move. He ignores the polls and does the right thing once again.

"This decision to commute the sentence of a man who compromised our national security cements the legacy....

blah, blah, blah. RICHARD ARMITAGE IS RESPONSIBLE FOR LEAKING PLAMES NAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT LIBBY, GET THAT THROUGH YOUR THICK F#@#ING HEADS.

Are you suggesting that since a democrat criminal got off easy, a republican criminal should also? - casper

Did I say that? I asked what crime might be of more importance.

Maybe Bush should impose a tougher sentence, what do you think neocon? - b.e.l.

That's usually the judges role. Just FYI. I know though that you think Bush is a dictator, but he's not, really. Again, just FYI.

Bush commuted the prison sentence of Libby using the same rational that the Republicans used to impeach Clinton. Bush waited until all legal efforts to spare Libby were exhausted and then when the outcome was not what CHENEY wanted, he had a lawyer write some BS and disseminate it on a Monday afternoon before a holiday. No personal press conference, but some cowardly crap.
They should all rot in hell. There has never been a weaker congress and a more power mad executive than what we have today. Where are the button men when we need them?

How many of you have a friend or family member who has received a custody sentence from a court? How many of those were commuted by the President?

That in a nutshell is why this decision will stink to most Americans. Few know or care what Libby did. What matters is that he got off and you wouldn't.

This is one more example of why Geroge W. Bush is God's gift to the Democratic party. How did so politically astute an administration go so brain dead?

Bush commuted the prison sentence of Libby using the same rational that the Republicans used to impeach Clinton. - robyn

um.............WHAT???

Bush waited until all legal efforts to spare Libby were exhausted and then when the outcome was not what CHENEY wanted,.... - robyn

um.......you do realize that the conviction still stand, and the probation and fines is still in effect, right?

There has never been a weaker congress..robyn

That's your congress. Are you saying that Pelosi and Reid aren't people of conviction and leadership?

How many of those were commuted by the President?....That in a nutshell is why this decision will stink to most Americans - thrower

No, it wont. Most of us realize, except you maybe, that people in executive positions, or of celebrity/wealthy status, many times receive treatment above and beyond what the the ordinary citizen does.

Is it fair? Probably not. Did anyone promise you that life would be fair?

Great!!
Now Libby gets to serve the same amount of jail time as Sandy"Docs in the Sox" Berger.
Now maybe you liberals can concentrate on the
person who actually outed super secret"I don't know what my legal status is"Valerie Plame.You know,Richard Armitage.You liberals do want justice served don't you.I can't wait to her Schumers cry for the prosecution of the person who actually outed Plame.
Then of course while you liberals are up on your
mountain passing judgement,you will then call for
the indictment of Valerie Plame for lying to Congress about whether she suggested her husband
Joe for the trip to Nigeria.
Because that line of somebody just came by my
desk and said "How bout Joe going!" just doesn't
match up to her memo suggesting her husband over
and over and over again does it.
If you liberals really give a damn about justice
the Nation will see you pushing for this.
If not, then go screw yourselves because that means this whole affair is just about political
retribution and apparently you liberals are not the only one's that can play that game.

My son is about to do 13-days picking up trash after being stuck in jail for four days because he crashed his car while driving on a suspended license. That is exactly what he deserves.

Think he's happy seeing Libby walk? Guess again. Guys like you and me are way too into politics to see the world the way most people do. There is huge frustration over preferential legal treatment of the rich and powerful, and this will add exponentially to that frustration. Bush has lost his touch.

Wow, the spittle (and worse) must be flying on the left now that they have been denied thier pound of flesh.

Of course, now we will have to listen to all of the liberats call bush a criminal and a liar ... oh wait, they were gonna do that anyway.

This is what Bush should have done. Now just out of curiosity, does this leave bush the option of a full blown pardon if the appeal process doesnt work out?

(sitting back to watch the spittle fly)

Neocon-

Armitage was the leak to Novak, but Libby did leak the name to Judy Miller and the guy from Time, I can't remember his name. That was established in the libby trial. The leak could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt because of the perjury and obstruction Libby made before a grand jury and the fbi. This just shows how turdly supports the rule of law only when it suits his purpose. Turdly should have pardoned Libby. Libby was just a good soldier who took the bullet for Cheney.

Clinton Pardons:

CNN, January, 2001...

President Clinton granted 140 pardons -- including one to his own brother -- before preparing to relinquish power to the incoming Republican administration of George W. Bush.

...include[d] former Housing and Urban Development Secretary Henry Cisneros, Whitewater scandal figure Susan McDougal ... and former CIA Director John Deutch.

...[Whitewater scandal figure Susan] McDougal's pardon came just one day after the president struck a deal with Independent Counsel Robert Ray effectively ending the Whitewater investigation. In that agreement, Clinton agreed to a five-year suspension of his law license and acknowledged that he gave false testimony under oath in the Monica Lewinsky scandal.

...Henry Cisneros ... was convicted of making false statements to FBI agents conducting a background investigation of him when he was nominated to the Cabinet post in 1993. They included misleading investigators about cash payments he made to a former mistress.

... Former CIA Director John Deutch. ...was facing criminal charges in connection with his mishandling of national secrets on a home computer.

The Boston Globe, Feb 2007...

WASHINGTON -- Six years ago, the launch of Hillary Clinton's career in the US Senate was marred by allegations that her brothers had received payments from people pardoned by President Bill Clinton in the waning months of his presidency.

...the pardon controversy has reemerged in an obscure court case in which Senator Clinton's brother Tony is battling an order to repay more than $100,000 he received from a couple pardoned by President Clinton. Tony Rodham, who acknowledged approaching the president about a pardon for the couple, is the second of Hillary Clinton's brothers to receive money from people who were eventually pardoned by President Clinton. Hugh Rodham received $400,000 from two people, one of whom was pardoned and one whose sentence was commuted.

...Court Judge Marian Harrison of Nashville ordered Tony Rodham to respond by March 16 to the allegation that he failed to repay a loan of $107,000 from the couple pardoned by Clinton, according to attorneys involved in the case.

President Clinton's pardons have been a political issue for Hillary Clinton because of her ties to a number of the cases. In addition to the people who paid her brothers, those receiving pardons included commodities trader Marc Rich ... Rich was pardoned after his former wife, Denise Rich, contributed heavily to Hillary Clinton's Senate campaign.

AAR

of course the actual facts don't matter to Matt.
The fact that Libby lied to congress - inconsequential. This is the same charge that the Republicans brought against Clinton over a bj - but Matt doesn't care. All he cares about is that Clinton is a democrat and Libby is a Republican -end of story. Fortunately - this will hurt Bush even more...

Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald knew who the "leaker" was almost from the very beginning, yet he pressed on investigating a "crime" for which no one was ever indicted. Many, many months and millions of dollars later, the best Fitzgerald could do was a questionable conviction of Libby for lying and covering it up.

CBS Exclusive: Sept. 7, 2006...

"I almost immediately called Secretary Powell and said, 'I'm sure that was me,'" Armitage says.

Armitage immediately met with FBI agents investigating the leak.

"I told them that I was the inadvertent leak," Armitage says. He didn't get a lawyer, however.

"First of all, I felt so terrible about what I'd done that I felt I deserved whatever was coming to me. And secondarily, I didn't need an attorney to tell me to tell the truth. I as already doing that," Armitage explains. "I was not intentionally outing anybody. As I say, I have tremendous respect for Ambassador. Wilson's African credentials. I didn't know anything about his wife and made an offhand comment. I didn't try to out anybody."

That was nearly three years ago, but the political firestorm over who leaked Valerie Plame's identity continued to burn as Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald began hauling White House officials and journalists before a grand jury.

Armitage says he didn't come forward because "the special counsel, once he was appointed, asked me not to discuss this and I honored his request."

CBS News, September 13, 2006...

Early in the leak inquiry, Armitage had told authorities he was Novak's source. Armitage said Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald asked him to not to say that publicly. Fitzgerald then pressed on with the investigation, questioning White House aides. Among them was Rove, who appeared five times before a grand jury before being cleared of wrongdoing this summer.

The whole investigation was basically a witch hunt which the Democrats insisted upon in hopes of convicting President Bush, Vice President Cheney, or Karl Rove of some crime. That's all we heard for three years, but in the end, the only thing the Democrats got was Libby's conviction for lying and covering up his lies.

Why did Fitzgerald ask Armitage to "keep quite" and not let the public know that he was the source and that Fitzgerald already knew that? Why? So Fitzgerald could continue on with his witch hunt, inquisition, and grillings?!!!

If Fitzgerald had terminated the "inquisition" (a.k.a. investigation) and stopped the repeated grilling of people like Libby and Rove as he should have once he knew who leaked Plame's name, it's likely that no one, including Libby, would have been found guilty of anything!

AAR

"um.....do some homework before spouting off. Clinton lied to a GRAND JURY, UNDER OATH."

um....................so did Libby, two counts of it. He was also convicted of obstruction of justice and two counts of making false statements.

"Libby got his dates crossed up under oath to a special prosecutor"

Why should we trust your laughably partisan version of events that contradicts the conclusion of a jury, a federal district court judge, and a federal appellate court?

um.......

Gar Wood

AAR, those were only the tip of the iceberg with Clinton's pardons and I don't recall any uproar from the left.

Read the outright pardons here,

Clinton Pardon Grants, January 2001

Best I recall, Democrats and other leftists defended his pardons as it was his legal privilege to do so.

My mistake on the grand jury. Libby did commit perjury in front of a GJ, and for that he is being punished. But here is the meat of the whole case:

Fitzgerald repeatedly lied, both in court and out, about the nature of his investigation in a successful effort to convince the jury that Libby had something to hide. Worse yet he pursued a criminal investigation when he had no reason even to suspect that any crime had been committed.

On October 1, 2003, Richard Armitage told both Secretary of State Colin Powell and the FBI that he "was the inadvertent leak".

On October 16, 2005, Judith Miller published an account of her grand jury testimony.....My notes do not show that Mr. Libby identified Mr. Wilson's wife by name. Nor do they show that he described Valerie Wilson as a covert agent or "operative," - Judith Miller

For a great analysis on this whole affair, I direct you to the following:

http://www.americanthinker.com/2007/03/get_a_grip_mr_president.html

Wait tell Dec, this is just the tip of the(screw America)Bush iceberg

"President Clinton granted 140 pardons -- including one to his own brother -- before preparing to relinquish power to the incoming Republican administration of George W. Bush."

So once again the excuse is that Clinton did it so it was ok for Bush to do it. I thought he was better than that

So once again the excuse is that Clinton did it so it was ok for Bush to do it. I thought he was better than that - casper

That's not the point. It's just fun to highlight the extreme hypocritical left.

"So a convicted felon doesn't have to go to jail, Sounds like something Clinton would have done."

uh....c-ass-per, it IS something Clinton DID do.

Including Puerto Rican TERRORISTS, in which a bombing killed a police officer. All for the sake of some votes for Hillary.

Marc Rich, oh wait, he skipped town, never facing trial, for illegal dealings with a hostile nation, and Clinton pardoned him. Denise must have done some special favors for that.

Over 100 pardons to LEGITIMATELY convicted criminals, and no one asked questions on the left.

In Scooter Libby's trial, the jurors were asked how they felt about the Iraq war. What relevance is that? Other than packing the jury with anti-Bush members. Can you honestly say that Libby received a fair trial?

But you, being the slave that you are, with state that he did.

Talk about cover ups and a complete travesty and utter miscarriage of justice...

Scooter Libby was given 30 months in jail and a $250,000 fine for lying (possibly forgetting) and covering up an investigation into a crime for which no one was ever charged, and for which the "leaker" was already known early in the investigation.

Sandy Berger, President Clinton's former National Security Adviser, on the other hand, deliberately steals and destroys some of our nation's most highly classified documents and information in an effort to hide and cover up something which was obviously of great and grave importance to the 9/11 Commission and the American people.

Sandy Berger steals and destroys our nation's secrets, lies to investigators, destroys and thus withholds information from the 9/11 Commission investigating the worst attack on American soil in our nation's history... and for that Berger gets 100 hours of community service, 2-year probation, a $50,000 fine, and pays $6,905 for the administrative costs of his two-year probation!

Where is the national and Democrat outrage, and cries for a full investigation (inquisition!) from the DEMOCRAT Congress for what Sandy Berger may have destroyed, hidden, and covered up that's far more important to the American people and history than Libby's "crime"!

DEMOCRATS control Congress. DEMOCRATS are conducting investigations, inquiries, and hearings on everything imaginable. Why aren't the DEMOCRATS in Congress investigating Sandy Berger and trying to find out just what he REALLY destroyed and WHO he is REALLY trying to protect?

Let's find out what President Clinton did that's warrants the theft and destruction of highly classified documents from America's National Archives and from the scrutiny of historians!

Oh, that's right! Libby is a Republican and Berger is a DEMOCRAT, and it does not serve the DEMOCRATS' AGENDA to investigate one of THEIR OWN!!!

AAR

As someone pointed out to me, If Libby were pardoned, he would not be able to take the Fifth if further questioned.

So, 30 months (2 and 1/2 years) is too much for someone with a wife and kids to serve? I'll remember that the next time I hear about "25 to life" for a young father.

The real implication here for Bush haters is that he might mass-pardon his whole administration at the end of his term, thus giving everyone carte-blanche from now until then. THAT's what's got them frothing.

Oh, and for a government that came into power with the promise of avoiding even the appearance of favoritism and corruption, this has been a watershed signing for Bush. The Republican's new dawn has reached its sunset.

Bush still stinks on Amnesty love this Commuting of Libby's Prison Sentence.

babyeater...

"This is what Obama said about this commutation and it is spot on IMHO....

"This decision to commute the sentence of a man who compromised our national security cements the legacy of an Administration characterized by a politics of cynicism and division, one that has consistently placed itself and its ideology above the law. This is exactly the kind of politics we must change so we can begin restoring the American people’s faith in a government that puts the country’s progress ahead of the bitter partisanship of recent years."

Another made up issue by the libs! Libby was not convicted of comprimising our national security nor was he on trial for that.

Bitter partisanship of recent years? Oh, please, more inflaming and divisive rhetoric.

All his comments, put simply, are complete lies!

Libby did not receive a fair trial, when jurors are interviewed with completely irrelevant questions. The jurors were asked how they felt about the Iraq war!! The sole purpose of which was to stack the jury against Bush and his administration.

Now if Libby was convicted of a terrorist bombing and was pardoned, then you would have something to bitch about. Oh wait, Clinton did that and all that was heard from the left was the sound of crickets chirping!

Present facts, not talking points, slave.

kblack77 - alledged PhD.

"of course the actual facts don't matter to Matt.
The fact that Libby lied to congress - inconsequential. This is the same charge that the Republicans brought against Clinton over a bj - but Matt doesn't care. All he cares about is that Clinton is a democrat and Libby is a Republican -end of story. Fortunately - this will hurt Bush even more..."

Everytime you open your mouth, you reveal what a complete buffoon you really are. Clinton was not charged with lying to CONGRESS, but was brought before CONGRESS at impeachment proceedings for lying to a grand jury under oath and obstruction of justice in a civil case. He was never charged with lying before Congress.

Stop being a slave to lib talking points. It only decreases your credibility. And if you want to save what infinitessimal (that means very very very small - almost non-existant) credibility you have left, you would quietly go away.

"That's not the point. It's just fun to highlight the extreme hypocritical left."

First you assume that the people here wanting Scooter Libby to serve his time also wanted Clinton and the lefties off the hook. Then you throw the word "hypocritical" around as you demand special treatment for Libby...at the same time you didn't even know what Libby was convicted of. Nobody's buying it.

"In Scooter Libby's trial, the jurors were asked how they felt about the Iraq war. What relevance is that? Other than packing the jury with anti-Bush members. Can you honestly say that Libby received a fair trial?"

The prosecutor, the district court judge, and a federal appeals court, all largely Republican. How could it have been more fair? The questions about Bush and the Iraq War was probably to keep liberals off to avoid a jury that would simply convict based on spite. Ever consider that?

"Oh, that's right! Libby is a Republican and Berger is a DEMOCRAT, and it does not serve the DEMOCRATS' AGENDA to investigate one of THEIR OWN!!!"

AAR, your rant raises some good points, with one major, large problem that I am disappointed you overlooked. Sandy Berger was convicted for his crime and he served his sentence. The Fifth Amendment double jeopardy clause prohibits Berger from being convicted again. Sorry! :(

Gar Wood

kblack77

Have you forgotten DEMOCRAT President Bill Clinton's infamous lie to the American people? (Yes, I know. Billy wasn't under oath THAT time, and besides, he had his fingers crossed!)

President Bill Clinton, January 17, 1998...

"Now, I have to go back to work on my State of the Union speech. And I worked on it until pretty late last night. But I want to say one thing to the American people. I want you to listen to me. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie, not a single time; never. These allegations are false. And I need to go back to work for the American people."

But then, Clinton had a string of lies and sexual misconduct...

The Supreme Court, October 1, 2001...

"WASHINGTON, The Supreme Court ordered former President Clinton disbarred from practicing law before the high court on Monday and gave him 40 days to contest the order."

"In April, Clinton's Arkansas law license was suspended for five years and he paid a $25,000 fine. The original disbarment lawsuit was brought by a committee of the Arkansas Supreme Court."

"Clinton agreed to the Arkansas fine and suspension Jan. 19, the day before he left office, as part of an understanding with Independent Counsel Robert Ray to end the Monica Lewinsky investigation."

"The agreement also satisfied the legal effort by the Arkansas Supreme Court Committee on Professional Conduct to disbar Clinton for giving misleading testimony in the Paula Jones sexual harassment case."

AAR

First you assume that the people here wanting Scooter Libby to serve his time also wanted Clinton and the lefties off the hook. - gar

Don't ever tell me what I assume. Or are liberals clairvoyant now? Silence is golden, and the fact that the left has not uttered one word about Clintons pardons or Berger, speaks volumes.

Sandy Berger was convicted for his crime and he served his sentence. - gar

Where's the documents? Do you care?

Once again, the armchair legal scholars of Blogs for Bush think they know more than a Bush appointed prosecutor, a Bush appointed judge, a grand jury, a jury of his peers, and the judge presiding over the grand jury. The wealth that is your legal expertise must be astounding!

I have seen the "there was no crime committed" defense (see all of the people who have to be wrong/stupid/party to some liberal conspiracy), the "Clinton was much, much worse, I promise" defense (since when is it good to compare yourself and your heroes to the dregs of society?), the "Sandy Berger is the DEVIL!" defense (how did you tie that to 9/11?), the "Armitage was the leak!" excuse, but none of them have any real legal basis. However, I'm sure you know what your talking about... I mean, what do those legal scholars and jurists have on your massive legal knowledge base...? Yeesh...

I'm perfectly content with this commutation. It shows that Bush likes his nepotism, but doesn't have the balls to see it through all the way (perhaps showing that he has doubts about his political capital)... It just furthers the narrative of the "cronietocracy" that is the Bush Administration. It gives us "haters" tons of ammunition... :-)

This case, more than any others, clearly demonstrates the BDS syndrome that is so rampant on the left. Gar Wood, Rana, Kblack, etc., are so filled with laughable rage it's almost fun to watch.

This is such a low level matter that it would barely even hit the radar in most administrations, in fact, it wouldn't have even come up in most administrations because of THE FACT that leaking Plames identity does not constitute a crime.

Notice the silence re: Richard Armitage.

It gives us "haters" tons of ammunition... :-) - Rana

Case in point!

Also clear demonstration of why Congress is at an all time low in ratings in the history of that political body.

Also clear demonstration of why the Dems will lose in '08. There just too stupid to realize it.

Thank you Rana.

Neocon-

How many times do I have to tell you guys that I'm not a Democrat? Christ, you guys think that just because I'm anti-Bush that I'm pro-Harry Reid... Does it hurt to try to think in three dimensions? Please... try harder...

Does it hurt to try to think in three dimensions? - rana

Did I say you were a democrat? Again it's that assumption thing that makes you look like a....well, I think you know. You just merely stated what is so prevalent on the left, and I seized the opportunity to point it out.

Is that too difficult for you to figure out?

sorry neo, I've been falsely pegged on this blog so many times it makes me jumpy about it... I'm sure you understand the frustration of being mistaken for that which you find idiotic...

"Wait just a second, I thought lying to Congress was against the law.

Oh yeah, only for Bill Clinton"

How many days in jail did Clinton do?

Oh yeah, none.

Gar,

Sandy Berger was not tried in a court. Berger reached a plea deal to avoid a trial. Compared to Libby, Berger received a slap on the hand from the legal system and a pat on the back from Clinton!

Berger steals and destroys our nations secrets and possibly incriminating and highly significant classified information, lies to investigators, and deliberately attempts to destroy and withhold information critical to the 9/11 investigation (and possibly succeeds) and for that he gets 100 hours of community service, 2-year probation, a $50,000 fine, and pays $6,905 for the administrative costs of his two-year probation!

Libby is convicted of lying and covering up a crime that did not occur and he is sentenced to 30 months in prison, plus two years probation, plus a $250,000 fine!

Democrats feign outrage over the "severity" of Libby's "crime", but show little or no concern over Berger's actions and cover-up which was the real crime directed at our nation's security!

You couldn't care less about Sandy Berger who lied, lied to the FBI, tried to cover up his lies and actions, stole national secrets, stole and destroyed highly classified information, and interfered with the 9/11 Commission investigation into the worst attack on American soil in our history?

Amazing! Typical HYPOCRITICAL Democrats!!!

AAR

AAR-

I'm still waiting for you to tie Sandy Berger to 9/11...

Rana, no sweat. I empathize.

AAR, great post.

I'm still waiting for you to tie Sandy Berger to 9/11...Rana

How could we possibly know now? Many of the CLASSIFIED Docs are either destroyed or still missing.

What do you suppose were in those docs that he wanted so badly to disappear?

Recipes?

Gar,

As to your comment: "The Fifth Amendment double jeopardy clause prohibits Berger from being convicted again. Sorry!"

That fact raises even more questions about Sandy Berger recent actions to VOLUNTARILY give up his law license and right to practice law in order to avoid more questions about the crime, the documents, his role, his actions, what he REALLY destroyed, and WHO and WHAT he was protecting and covering up!

The Fifth Amendment does not prevent Congress from further investigating the crime, especially in view of the fact that we now know Sandy Berger had access to more documents, including original documents, than the "copies" which were the subject of the original investigation and his plea deal.

Knowing that he is safe from "double jeopardy" and can't be convicted for the same crime "again", Sandy Berger should now be willing to tell Congress and the American people the WHOLE story and the REAL story!

Perhaps too, with enough investigating, testimony, and grilling of the type Fitzgerald conducted in his inquisition of Libby, other facts and crimes may come to light which aren't protected by the Fifth Amendment!

RealClearPolitics.com, June 04, 2007: Sandy Berger and the Clinton Cover-Up...

"On May 17th, Sandy Berger, President Bill Clinton's National Security Adviser, voluntarily gave up his law license and with it the right to practice law. ...a stunning move for an accomplished lawyer, one of the nation's most influential public officials..."

"Berger previously entered a deal ... after he was caught stealing and destroying highly sensitive classified material ... allowed him to avoid jail time, pay a modest fine, and keep his law license. ...to avoid full explanation of what he had taken and why he had taken it."

"Recently, the Board of the DC Bar ... began asking [more about what information was worth risking his reputation, career, and freedom to keep hidden]. There was only one way to stop that investigation ... to keep the Bar from questioning his colleagues in the Clinton Administration about what had been in the documents Berger destroyed. ...surrendering his license, and stopping the investigation."

"...it is clear that there was nothing innocent or inadvertent in Berger's conduct. He has something to hide and, whatever it is, he was terrified that at least some part of it would come out of a non-criminal hearing before the Bar..."

"For Berger to risk jail and disgrace, to then give up the right to practice his profession merely in order to avoid having to answer questions, he must be hiding something important..."

"Sadly, this story doesn't interest the Justice Department... doesn't interest the Democrats in Congress... doesn't interest the mainstream news media..."

"...why a successful lawyer like Berger would take so drastic a step as surrendering his law license just to evade questions..."

Yes, why would Berger take such drastic action, knowing he can't be retried and convicted again for the "same" crime?

WHO and WHAT are Berger trying to hide, protect, and cover up NOW? ! ! !

AAR

The point I was trying to make is that Clinton was impeached for the exact same crime that Libby was convicted of by a President who as govenor was pardon adverse. Look at Karla Faye Tucker for example whom he scoffed at her pleas for mercy after finding Jesus and being born again. What ever that crap means.
Matt and Mark try to claim that Democrats are corrupt. I'd rather be corrupt than to have no principals. Equal justice under the law no longer has any meaning and the mushroom cloud that is at the center of this is our entire concept of rule of laws...not men...being nuked by those who claim to be beholden to that tradition. They are beyond contempt and if hell exists, Bush and Cheney will have a special place. Next to Caligula and Pilate washing his hands no doubt. The blood this time being justice.

Well, I see that Gar Wood, the Defender of Justice, has meekly gone away now that he is unable to answer the Berger debacle.

Will someone please interpret robin'bigs posts for me?

Is anyone here a graduate of the Arkansas school system?

I'd rather be corrupt

Spoken like a true democrat.

Sandy "docs in socks" Burglar deserves a major dose of extreme rendition.

Rana,

RE: "I'm still waiting for you to tie Sandy Berger to 9/11..."

Glad you asked!

I guess you haven't done much reading or research into Berger's crime and slap on the wrist!

Why would Berger want to steal copies of highly classified documents, including FIVE copies of the SAME document?

Because those copies may (and possibly did) contain ORIGINAL NOTES from Berger, senior members of the Clinton Administration, and possibly President Clinton himself.

Real Clear Politics, June 04, 2007, Sandy Berger and the Clinton Cover-Up - Why It Matters...

Berger had access to Archives documents that could be critical to understanding what information the Clinton Administration had, what options it considered, and what decisions it took on these sensitive subjects. In addition to primary documents, Berger had access to copies, and the only plausible reason for taking five copies of a single memo is that some had original notes on them from key officials, maybe from Berger or President Clinton.

For Berger to risk jail and disgrace, to then give up the right to practice his profession merely in order to avoid having to answer questions, he must be hiding something important. And if it is that important to him, it is also important to us.

The most likely explanation is that the material Berger destroyed points to a terrible mistake by Berger himself, by President Clinton, or by both. In dealing with al-Qaeda, did they overlook a critical piece of information or miss a chance to stop 9/11? Did the Administration's failure to take a more aggressive posture encourage al-Qaeda's later attacks?

When Fox News' Chris Wallace raised the possibility that Clinton's Administration might have done something more to prevent 9/11, Bill Clinton went into an inexplicable rage on national television. Wallace touched a nerve. So did the DC Bar.

Knowing what information Berger destroyed also might alter views of the current Bush Administration. Was the early support from both Bill and Hillary Clinton for going to war against Saddam based on something we don't know yet that was available to insiders in the Clinton Administration? Was it something that could come back to haunt Hillary and ruin her chances of winning Bill's third term?

Press Release, January 9, 2007...

"Washington, D.C. – Oversight and Government Reform Committee Ranking Member Tom Davis (R-VA) released the following statement today on a committee report that sheds important new light on Sandy Berger’s theft of classified documents from the National Archives. The report makes it clear that the full extent of Mr. Berger’s document removal can never be known, and consequently the Department of Justice could not assure the 9/11 Commission that it received all responsive documents to which Mr. Berger had access."

"'My staff’s investigation reveals that President Clinton’s former National Security Advisor Sandy Berger compromised national security much more than originally disclosed,' Davis said. 'It is now also clear that Mr. Berger was willing to go to extraordinary lengths to compromise national security, apparently for his own convenience."

"'The 9/11 Commission relied on incomplete and misleading information regarding its access to documents Mr. Berger reviewed. No one ever told the Commission that Mr. Berger had access to original documents that he could have taken without detection."

Were those NOTES Berger's real and primary concern. What did Berger take, destroy, or withhold (cover up) from the 9/11 Commission that could be critical to understanding the events and what really lead up to 9/11; what the Clinton Administration actually knew; mistakes and missed opportunities by Berger or President Clinton himself; actions that could have and should have been taken to prevent 9/11; and/or information that could be highly embarrassing -- or worse -- to the Clinton Administration and history's view of it -- especially related to 9/11 ! ! !

AAR

neocon,

RE: "Will someone please interpret robin'bigs posts for me?"

You got me! The best I can figure is "Democrats are corrupt... and they have no principals."

But we already knew that!

AAR

Why do Republicans have such contempt for the people? Libby wasn't convicted by Patrick Fitzgerald, he was convicted by a jury of his peers.

And he would be convicted 100 times over. There isn't a jury in the world that wouldn't convict him. The evidence is overwhelming, and the dates mixed up excuse is so laughable it's almost not worth responding to. But then again I'm not going to convince anybody, because those who believe that are just being good little authoritarians.

And by the way. Libby's sentence was completely consistent with federal sentencing guidelines. So when does bush start pardoning all people convicted of perjury and obstruction?

It's funny how when Clinton lies to a Grand Jury it's an impeachable offense, but when Scooter Libby does it it's a horrible injustice. But Republicans haven't been principled for years now have they.

What a sad state your party is in.

President Bush acts inappropriately.

"I have said throughout this process that it would not be appropriate to comment or intervene in this case until Mr. Libby's appeals have been exhausted." - President Bush

Mr. Libby is still on appeal and Bush has intervened by changing Libby's sentence. So, according to his own words, what he is doing is not appropriate.

Aitch,

It is usual, however, for white collar crimes where flight risk is minimal to allow the convicted to remain free while his appeals are pending - when the judge ordered Libby to jail, President Bush did what he had to do.

What the judge did shows the basic unfairness of the treatment of Libby - he was railroaded by an out-of-control prosecutor who used a biased jury to gain a conviction on a non-existent crime.

I'm glad President Bush commuted Libby's prison sentence but it should have been a full pardon.

The modern Republican Party at the hands of Bush is merely a crime syndicate.

They stuff courts, intimidate critics and buy off juries.

When finally brought to justice they simply change the law or flatly ignore it.

Sad, really.

The American people are partly to blame for this outrage, having stood by and watched these thieves rob America in broad daylight.

And as this sight bears testimony, there are those that witness this thugery and cheer them on.

This national nightmare cannot end a day too soon.

"It is usual, however, for white collar crimes where flight risk is minimal to allow the convicted to remain free while his appeals are pending - when the judge ordered Libby to jail, President Bush did what he had to do."

And commute the entire sentence? Come on Marky, that spin is so absurd it's laughable.

So, since Libby wasn't allowed to be free while he appealed his sentence for being convicted by a Jury of his peers of a felony offense then that means he should not have to serve any jail time?

That shows nothing but a blatant disregard for the rule of law, and the judicial process.

And you know whats most telling? The fact white collar (ie rich) criminals are allowed to remain free pending their appeals, while it's common for blue collar (ie middle class to poor) criminals to be imprisoned pending appeal.

So do the rich deserve special treatment? Or do you have to be rich and Republican?

So Bush commuted Libby's sentence so he didn't have to go to jail pending appeal. But the appeal is still on-going. What do you suppose will happen if Libby's convictions are upheld on appeal?

You can find a list of Bush's pardons on www.phreakzguild.com/sida/ and some of the pardons are really strange I must say.

markie mark
libby will get the full pardon before bush leaves office
so the felony charges get dropped
and the fine is forgiven
i'll bet you a buck it happens
c'mon.......

So, since Libby wasn't allowed to be free while he appealed his sentence for being convicted by a Jury of his peers of a felony offense then that means he should not have to serve any jail time? - faceplant

Clinton was convicted of the same crime. Never served one day in jail.

That shows nothing but a blatant disregard for the rule of law, and the judicial process. - faceplant

Since you're obviously a stickler for the law. Tell us how you feel about Sandy Berger and his escape from justice and fraud on the American public.

So do the rich deserve special treatment? Or do you have to be rich and Republican? - faceplant

So you're now just realizing that the rich get special treatment? Are you 9?

And as for just Republicans getting special treatment, I will refer you to Clintons list of pardons on his last day in office.

Smarter liberals please.

What do you suppose will happen if Libby's convictions are upheld on appeal? - rico

Bush commuted the JAIL time. He never pardoned the conviction. His conviction still stands as does his fine and probation.

neocon: Bush commuted the JAIL time. He never pardoned the conviction. His conviction still stands as does his fine and probation.

You're missing the point: if Libby loses his appeal, a pardon is still a possibility.

Funny, I ask a question, and I get a repetition of what Sandy did (which, don't get me wrong, deserves jail time). Then, basically, it was said, since we don't know what he stole and destroyed, we should assume that they pertained to 9/11. Wow... let's see if that holds up in a court... HA!

What you guys don't seem to realize is that I like the commutation... However, I would rather it be a pardon and have been done tomorrow. I guess that Bush has a little common sense about this type of thing.

I do think that, as the '08 election nears, we will see the incredible, shrinking Bush.

BWAAAA HA HA HA

Lets see how ole slick did in this dept,
amazing the amnesia of ole chucky cheese schumer, hitlery nad the whole RAT party.

[edit] Commutations
Benjamin Berger
Ronald Henderson Blackley
Bert Wayne Bolan
Gloria Libia Camargo
Charles F. Campbell
David Ronald Chandler
Lau Ching Chin
Donald R. Clark
Loreta De-Ann Coffman
Derrick Curry
Velinda Desalus
Jacob Elbaum
Linda Sue Evans
Loretta Sharon Fish
Antoinette M. Frink
David Goldstein
Gerard A. Greenfield
Jodie E. Israel
Kimberly Johnson
Billy Thornton Langston Jr.
Belinda Lynn Lumpkin
Peter MacDonald - President of the Navajo Nation
Kellie Ann Mann
Peter Ninemire
Hugh Ricardo Padmore
Arnold Paul Prosperi
Melvin J. Reynolds - Democratic Congressman from Illinois - bank fraud and obstruction of justice
Pedro Miguel Riveiro
Dorothy Rivers - lead official in Jesse Jackson’s Rainbow/PUSH Coalition, plead guilty to theft of 1.2 million dollars in federal grant money
Susan Rosenberg
Kalmen Stern
Cory Stringfellow
Carlos Anibal Vignali - convicted of cocaine trafficking
Thomas Wilson Waddell III
Harvey Weinig
Kim Allen Willis
Kimba Smith
Antonio Camacho Negron - FALN militant

[edit] Pardons
Verla Jean Allen (1990 false statements to an agency of the United States)
Nicholas M. Altiere (1983 importation of cocaine)
Bernice Ruth Altschul (1992 money laundering conspiracy)
Joe Anderson Jr. (1988 income tax evasion)
William Sterling Anderson (1987 defraudment of a financial institution, false statements to a financial institution, wire fraud)
Mansour Azizkhani (1984 false statements in bank loan applications)
Cleveland Victor Babin Jr. (1987 using the U.S. mail service to defraud)
Chris Harmon Bagley (1989 conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
Scott Lynn Bane (Unlawful distribution of marijuana)
Thomas Cleveland Barber (Issuing worthless checks)
Peggy Ann Bargon (Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act)
David Roscoe Blampied (possess with intent to distribute cocaine)
William Arthur Borders Jr. (Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery)
Arthur David Borel (Odometer Rollback)
Douglas Chrles Borel (Odometer Rollback)
George Thomas Brabham (Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank)
Almon Glenn Braswell (1983 mail fraud and perjury)
Leonard Browder (Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud)
David Steven Brown (Securities fraud and mail fraud)
Delores Caroylene Burleson, aka Delores Cox Burleson (Possession of Marijuana)
John H. Bustamante (wire fraud)
Mary Louise Campbell
Eloida Candelaria
Dennis Sobrevinas Capili
Donna Denise Chambers
Douglas Eugene Chapman
Ronald Keith Chapman
Francisco Larois Chavez
Henry Cisneros (former HUD Secretary)
Roger Clinton, Jr. (half-brother of President Bill Clinton)
Stuart Harris Cohn
David Marc Cooper
Ernest Harley Cox Jr.
John F. Cross Jr.
Reickey Lee Cunningham
Richard Anthony De Labio
John Deutch (former Director of Central Intelligence Agency)
Richard Douglas
Edward Reynolds Downe
Marvin Dean Dudley
Larry Lee Duncan
Robert Clinton Fain
Marcos Arcenio Fernandez
Alvarez Ferrouillet
William Dennis Fugazy
Lloyd Reid George
Louis Goldstein
Rubye Lee Gordon
Pincus Green
Robert Ivey Hamner
Samuel Price Handley
Woodie Randolph Handley
Jay Houston Harmon
Rick Hendrick
John Hummingson
David S. Herdlinger
Debi Rae Huckleberry
Warren C. Hultgren Jr.
Donald Ray James
Stanley Pruet Jobe
Ruben H. Johnson
Linda Jones
James Howard Lake
June Louise Lewis
Salim Bonnor Lewis
John Leighton Lodwick
Hildebrando Lopez
Jose Julio Luaces
James Timothy Maness
James Lowell Manning, (1982, aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate income tax return)
John Robert Martin
Frank Ayala Martinez
Silvia Leticia Beltran Martinez
John Francis McCormick
Susan H. McDougal
Howard Mechanic
Brook K. Mitchell Sr.
Samuel Loring Morison
Charles Wilfred Morgan III
Richard Anthony Nazzaro
Charlene Ann Nosenko
Vernon Raymond Obermeier
Miguelina Ogalde
David C. Owen
Robert W. Palmer
Kelli Anne Perhosky
Richard H. Pezzopane
Orville Rex Phillips
Vinson Stewart Poling Jr.
Norman Lyle Prouse
Willie H.H. Pruitt Jr.[1]
Danny Martin Pursley Sr.
Charles D. Ravenel
William Clyde Ray
Alfredo Luna Regalado
Ildefonso Reynes Ricafort
Marc Rich - tax evasion fugitive
Howard Winfield Riddle
Richard Wilson Riley Jr.
Samuel Lee Robbins
Joel Gonzales Rodriguez
Michael James Rogers
Anna Louise Ross
Dan Rostenkowski - Former Democratic Congressman convicted in the Congressional Post Office Scandal
Gerald Glen Rust
Jerri Ann Rust
Bettye June Rutherford
Gregory Lee Sands
Adolph Schwimmer
Albert A. Seretti Jr.
Patricia Campbell Hearst Shaw
Dennis Joseph Smith
Gerald Owen Smith
Stephen A. Smith
Jimmie Lee Speake
Charles Bernard Stewart
Marlena Francisca Stewart-Rollins
Fife Symington III - former Arizona governor
Richard Lee Tannehill
Nicholas C. Tenaglia
Gary Allen Thomas
Larry Weldon Todd
Olga C. Trevino
Ignatious Vamvouklis
Patricia A. Van De Weerd
Christopher V. Wade
Bill Wayne Warmath
Jack Kenneth Watson
Donna Lynn Webb
Donald William Wells
Robert H. Wendt
Jack L. Williams
Kavin Arthur Williams
Robert Michael Williams
Jimmie Lee Wilson
Thelma Louise Wingate
Mitchell Couey Wood
Warren Stannard Wood
Dewey Worthey
Rick Allen Yale
Joseph A. Yasak
William Stanley Yingling
Phillip David Young
Keith Sanders
Darren Muci
John Scott (not a full pardon)
Anthony M Pilla

[edit] See also
Bill Clinton pardons controversy
List of people pardoned by George W. Bush

NUFF SAID
Clinton Presidential Pardon Grants January 2001 (the complete ist would make your head explode)

Name Home Town Offenses
ALLEN, Verla Jean Everton, Arkansas False statements to agency of United States
ALTIERE, Nicholas M. Las Vegas, Nevada Importation of cocaine
ALTSCHUL, Bernice Ruth Sherman Village, California Conspiracy to commit money laundering
ANDERSON, Joe, Jr. Grove Hill, Alabama Income tax evasion
ANDERSON, William Sterling Spartanburg, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured financial institution, false statements to a federally insured financial institution, wire fraud
AZIZKHANI, Mansour T. Huntsville, Alabama Conspiracy and making false statements in bank loan applications
BABIN, Cleveland Victor, Jr. Oklahoma City, Oklahoma Conspiracy to commit offense against the United States by utilizing the U.S. mail in furtherance of a scheme to defraud
BAGLEY, Chris Harmon Harrah, Oklahoma Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute cocaine
BANE, Scott Lynn Mahomet, Illinois Unlawful distribution of marijuana
BARBER, Thomas Cleveland Hampton, Florida Issuing worthless checks
BARGON, Peggy Ann Monticello, Illinois Violation of the Lacey Act, violation of the Bald Eagle Protection Act
BHATKA, Tansukhlal Income tax evasion
BLAMPIED, David Roscoe Ketchum, Idaho Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
BORDERS, William Arthur, Jr. Washington, D.C. Conspiracy to corruptly solicit and accept money in return for influencing the official acts of a federal district court judge (Alcee L. Hastings), and to defraud the United States in connection with the performance of lawful government functions; corruptly influencing, obstructing, impeding and endeavoring to influence, obstruct and impede the due administration of justice, and aiding and abetting therein; traveling interstate with intent to commit bribery
BOREL, Arthur David Little Rock, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BOREL, Douglas Charles Conway, Arkansas Odometer rollback
BRABHAM, George Thomas Austin, Texas Making a false statement or report to a federally insured bank
BRASWELL, Almon Glenn Doravilla, Georgia Conspiracy to defraud government with respect to claims; perjury
BROWDER, Leonard Aiken, South Carolina Illegal dispensing of controlled substance and Medicaid fraud
BROWN, David Steven New York, New York Securities fraud and mail fraud
BURLESON, Delores Caroylene, aka Delores Cox Burleson Hanna, Oklahoma Possession of marijuana
BUSTAMANTE, John H. Cleveland, Ohio Wire fraud
CAMPBELL, Mary Louise Ruleville, Mississippi Aiding and abetting the unauthorized use and transfer of food stamps
CANDELARIA, Eloida False information in registering to vote
CAPILI, Dennis Sobrevinas Glendale, California Filing false statements in alien registration
CHAMBERS, Donna Denise Memphis, Tennessee Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and to distribute cocaine, possession with intent to distribute cocaine, use of a telephone to facilitate cocaine conspiracy
CHAPMAN, Douglas Eugene Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAPMAN, Ronald Keith Scott, Arkansas Bank fraud
CHAVEZ, Francisco Larios Santa Ana, California Aiding and abetting illegal entry of aliens
CISNEROS, Henry G.
CLINTON, Roger
COHN, Stuart Harris New Haven, Connecticut 1. Illegal sale of gold options

2. Illegal sale of silver options
COOPER, David Marc Wapakoneta, Ohio Conspiracy to defraud the government
COX, Ernest Harley, Jr. Pine Bluff, Arkansas Conspiracy to defraud a federally insured savings and loan, misapplication of bank funds, false statements
CROSS, John F., Jr. Little Rock, Arkansas Embezzlement by a bank employee
CUNNINGHAM, Rickey Lee Amarillo, Texas Possession with intent to distribute marijuana
DE LABIO, Richard Anthony Baltimore, Maryland Mail fraud, aiding and abetting
DEUTCH, John Described in January 19, 2001 information
DOUGLAS, Richard False statements
DOWNE, Edward Reynolds Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and tax evasion; securities fraud
DUDLEY, Marvin Dean Omaha, Nebraska False statements
DUNCAN, Larry Lee Branson, Missouri Altering an automobile odometer
FAIN, Robert Clinton Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
FERNANDEZ, Marcos Arcenio Miami, Florida Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
FERROUILLET, Alvarez Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering, false statements
FUGAZY, William Denis Harrison, New York Perjury in a bankruptcy proceeding
GEORGE, Lloyd Reid Mail fraud
GOLDSTEIN, Louis Las Vegas, Nevada Possession of goods stolen from interstate shipment
GORDON, Rubye Lee Tampa, Florida Forgery of U.S. Treasury checks
GREEN, Pincus Switzerland
HAMNER, Robert Ivey Searcy, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
HANDLEY, Samuel Price Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HANDLEY, Woodie Randolph Hodgenville, Kentucky Conspiracy to steal government property
HARMON, Jay Houston Jonesboro, Arkansas 1. Conspiracy to import marijuana, conspiracy to possess marijuana with intent to distribute, importation of marijuana, possession of marijuana with intent to distribute

2. Conspiracy to import cocaine
HEMMINGSON, John Interstate transport of stolen property, money laundering
HERDLINGER, David S. St. Simons Island, Georgia Mail fraud
HUCKLEBERRY, Debi Rae Ogden, Utah Distribution of methamphetamine
JAMES, Donald Ray Fairfield Bay, Arkansas Mail fraud, wire fraud, and false statement to a bank to influence credit approval
JOBE, Stanley Pruet El Paso, Texas Conspiracy to commit bank fraud, and bank fraud
JOHNSON, Ruben H. Austin, Texas Theft and misapplication of bank funds by a bank officer or director
JONES, Linda Conspiracy to commit bank fraud and other offenses against the United States
LAKE, James Howard Illegal corporate campaign contributions, wire fraud
LEWIS, June Louise Lowellville, Ohio Embezzlement by a bank employee
LEWIS, Salim Bonnor Short Hills, New Jersey Securities fraud, record keeping violations, margin violations
LODWICK, John Leighton Excelsior Springs, Missouri Income tax evasion
LOPEZ, Hildebrando San Isidro, Texas Distribution of cocaine
LUACES, Jose Julio Ft. Lauderdale, Florida Possession of an unregistered firearm
MANESS, James Timothy Conspiracy to distribute a controlled substance
MANNING, James Lowell Little Rock, Arkansas Aiding and assisting in the preparation of a false corporate tax return
MARTIN, John Robert Gulf Breeze, Florida Income tax evasion
MARTINEZ, Frank Ayala Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
MARTINEZ, Silvia Leticia Beltran Elgin, Texas Conspiracy to supply false documents to the Immigration and Naturalization Service
McCORMICK, John Francis Dedham, Massachusetts Racketeering conspiracy, racketeering, and violation of the Hobbs act
McDOUGAL, Susan H.
MECHANIC, Howard Lawrence 1. Violating the Civil Disobedience Act of 1968

2. Failure to appear

3. Making false statement in acquiring a passport
MITCHELL, Brook K., Sr. Conspiracy to illegally obtain USDA subsidy payments, false statements to USDA, and false entries on USDA forms
MORGAN, Charles Wilfred, III Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
MORISON, Samuel Loring Crofton, Maryland Willful transmission of defense information, unauthorized possession and retention of defense information, theft of government property
NAZZARO, Richard Anthony Winchester, Massachusetts Perjury and conspiracy to commit mail fraud
NOSENKO, Charlene Ann Phoenix, Arizona Conspiracy to defraud the United States, and influencing or injuring an officer or juror generally
OBERMEIER, Vernon Raymond Belleville, Illinois Conspiracy to distribute cocaine, distribution of cocaine, and using a communications facility to facilitate distribution of cocaine
OGALDE, Miguelina Glendale, California Conspiracy to import cocaine
OWEN, David C. Olathe, Kansas Filing a false tax return
PALMER, Robert W. Little Rock, Arkansas Conspiracy to make false statements
PERHOSKY, Kelli Anne Bridgeville, Pennsylvania Conspiracy to commit mail fraud
PEZZOPANE, Richard H. Palo Heights, Illinois Conspiracy to commit racketeering, and mail fraud
PHILLIPS, Orville Rex Waco, Texas Unlawful structure of a financial transaction
POLING, Vinson Stewart, Jr. Baldwin, Maryland Making a false bank entry, and aiding and abetting
PROUSE, Norman Lyle Conyers, Georgia Operating or directing the operation of a common carrier while under the influence of alcohol
PRUITT, Willie H. H., Jr. Port Richey, Florida Absent without official leave
PURSLEY, Danny Martin, Sr. Goodlettsville, Tennessee Aiding and abetting the conduct of an illegal gambling business, and obstruction of state laws to facilitate illegal gambling
RAVENEL, Charles D. Charleston, South Carolina Conspiracy to defraud the United States
RAY, William Clyde Altus, Oklahoma Fraud using a telephone
REGALADO, Alfredo Luna Pharr, Texas Failure to report the transportation of currency in excess of $10,000 into the United States
RICAFORT, Ildefonso Reynes Houston, Texas Submission of false claims to Veterans Administration
RICH, Marc Switzerland
RIDDLE, Howard Winfield Mt. Crested Butte, Colorado Violation of the Lacey Act (receipt of illegally imported animal skins)
RILEY, Richard Wilson, Jr. Possession of cocaine with intent to distribute
ROBBINS, Samuel Lee Cedar Park, Texas Misprision of a felony
RODRIGUEZ, Joel Gonzales Houston, Texas Theft of mail by a postal employee
ROGERS, Michael James McAllen, Texas Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute marijuana
ROSS, Anna Louise Lubbock, Texas Distribution of cocaine
RUST, Gerald Glen Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUST, Jerri Ann Avery, Texas False declarations before grand jury
RUTHERFORD, Bettye June Albuquerque, New Mexico Possession of marijuana with intent to distribute
SANDS, Gregory Lee Sioux Falls, South Dakota Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SCHWIMMER, Adolph Conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to export arms and ammunition to a foreign country and related charges
SERETTI, Albert A., Jr. McKees Rocks, Pennyslvania Conspiracy and wire fraud
SHAW, Patricia Campbell Hearst Wilton, Connecticut Armed bank robbery and using a firearm during a felony
SMITH, Dennis Joseph Redby, Minnesota 1. Unauthorized absence

2. Failure to obey off-limits instructions

3. Unauthorized absence
SMITH, Gerald Owen Florence, Mississippi Armed bank robbery
SMITH, Stephen A.
SPEAKE, Jimmie Lee Breckenridge, Texas Conspiracy to possess and utter counterfeit $20 Federal Reserve notes
STEWART, Charles Bernard Sparta, Georgia Illegally destroying U.S. Mail
STEWART-ROLLINS, Marlena Francisca Euclid, Ohio Conspiracy to distribute cocaine
SYMINGTON, John Fife, III
TANNEHILL, Richard Lee Reno, Nevada Conspiracy and restraint of trade
TENAGLIA, Nicholas C. Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania Receipt of illegal payments under the Medicare program
THOMAS, Gary Allen Lancaster, Texas Theft of mail by postal employee
TODD, Larry Weldon Gardendale, Texas Conspiracy to commit an offense against the U.S. in violation of the Lacey Act and the Airborne Hunting Act
TREVINO, Olga C. Converse, Texas Misapplication by a bank employee
VAMVOUKLIS, Ignatious Exeter, New Hampshire Possession of cocaine
VAN DE WEERD, Patricia A. Tomahawk, Wisconsin Theft by a U.S. Postal employee
WADE, Christopher V.
WARMATH, Bill Wayne Walls, Mississippi Obstruction of correspondence
WATSON, Jack Kenneth Oakridge, Oregon Making false statements of material facts to the U.S. Forest Service
WEBB, Donna Lynn Panama City, Florida False entry in savings and loan record by employee
WELLS, Donald William Phenix City, Alabama Possession of an unregistered firearm
WENDT, Robert H. Kirkwood, Missouri Conspiracy to effectuate the escape of a federal prisoner
WILLIAMS, Jack L. Making false statements to federal agents
WILLIAMS, Kevin Arthur Omaha, Nebraska Conspiracy to distribute and possess with intent to distribute crack cocaine
WILLIAMS, Robert Michael Davison, Michigan Conspiracy to transport in foreign commerce securities obtained by fraud
WILSON, Jimmie Lee Helena, Arkansas Converting property mortgaged or pledged to a farm credit agency, and converting public money to personal use
WINGATE, Thelma Louise Sale City, Georgia Mail fraud
WOOD, Mitchell Couey Sherwood, Arkansas Conspiracy to possess and to distribute cocaine
WOOD, Warren Stannard Las Vegas, Nevada Conspiracy to defraud the United States by filing a false document with the Securities and Exchange Commission
WORTHEY, Dewey Conway, Arkansas Medicaid fraud
YALE, Rick Allen Belleville, Illinois Bank fraud
YASAK, Joseph A. Chicago, Illinois Knowingly making under oath a false declaration regarding a material fact before a grand jury
YINGLING, William Stanley Interstate transportation of stolen vehicle
YOUNG, Phillip David Little Rock, Arkansas Interstate transportation and sale of fish and wildlife

Yeah, well, George could not very well have let
Scooter see the inside of a prison cell - not with
all the dirt he knows.

Funny, I ask a question, and I get a repetition of what Sandy did (which, don't get me wrong, deserves jail time). Then, basically, it was said, since we don't know what he stole and destroyed, we should assume that they pertained to 9/11. Wow... let's see if that holds up in a court... HA! - Rana

What if Cheney had done what Berger did?

Ricorun,
You seem to be the only one that gets it; Scooter was denied his freedom while the appeal goes on, something that almost anyone else would have been granted. Bush commuted the sentence; effectively allowing Scooter free while his appeal is processed.

If the appeal is successful, Bush (and Libby) will have been vindicated. If the appeal fails then Bush will pardon Libby which is his Constitutional right to do so.

"George could not very well have let
Scooter see the inside of a prison cell - not with
all the dirt he knows."

Be glad he wasn't in the Clinton Administration; the Clintons kill people that know too much.

neo- He would probably be pardoned, which would have been the Berger treatment, if you will. You would be defending the pardon, and we'd basically be having the same conversation...