"living Guam residents who were killed"??
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 7, 2007 05:00 PM
The rep from Guam Madeline Bordallo, so could it be that Pelosi promised these reparations to Guam for her vote to withdraw from Iraq?
We are going to see all these crazy pieces of legislation so that we can claim defeat in Iraq!
Posted by: semby at May 7, 2007 05:38 PM
Bane, leave it to a statistician to catch such a "minor" error.
Posted by: Retired Spook at May 7, 2007 06:03 PM
You caught it too, didn't you, Spook? It jumped right out at me. Hell, I bet even Dr. Rerun caught it...
Posted by: keefer at May 7, 2007 07:20 PM
Maybe I'm just picking fly $h*t out of the pepper; but who would vote for such a measure?
I know Bill Clinton apologized on behalf of "white America" for slavery, and the North Carolina democrat party apologized for the 1898 race riot in 2007, and Algore apologized to Moslems worldwide before the plane hit the South Tower ... but, c'mon, shouldn’t the Japanese first accept responsibility before we go picking up the tab?
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 7, 2007 07:35 PM
"The rep from Guam Madeline Bordallo, so could it be that Pelosi promised these reparations to Guam for her vote to withdraw from Iraq?"
The Rep from Guam doesn't have a vote.
Posted by: Casper at May 7, 2007 07:51 PM
Maybe this is a stepping stone towards reparations to slaves. Never mind there are no former slaves still alive.
Posted by:
Lew Waters at May 7, 2007 08:09 PM
Unfortunately government compensation to the surviving relatives of the 9/11 victims has set a terrible precedent.
The argument can always be raised "if they were compensated why not (fill in the blank)"
There is nothing that will be exempt, there is no statute of limitations. The American taxpayer is on the hook forever for any claim, just or unjust.
Posted by: phnx at May 7, 2007 09:45 PM
Do any of you Democrats have an explanation?
Posted by: Kahn at May 7, 2007 10:14 PM
It's the liberal philosophy (someone suffered, so it must be something America did) combined with the rest of the world's (except Australia) philosophy (let America do it).
Posted by: Morris at May 7, 2007 11:06 PM
All,
This stems all the way to the passage of the Guam Meritorious Claims Act of 1945, which sought to compensate Guam citizens for their valor and suffering resulting from loyalty to American troops during World War II. Guam nationals successfully hid thousands of American troops, and the Japanese punished them as a result, and Congress after World War II thought that they deserved compensation from America. Check out this speech by Bordallo for more information:
http://www.house.gov/bordallo/gwcrc/Bordallo_Statement_120803.htm
When you consider we spend $255 million a DAY on the Iraqi people, this is chump change for people that played a critical role in winning the war in the Pacific.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15377059/
Gar Wood
Posted by: Gar Wood at May 7, 2007 11:31 PM
Gar, "Guam nationals"? Guam was, and is a U.S. Territory. Guam citizens are U.S. citizens. I served in the Marine Corps with several.
Intersting historical note however.
Posted by: Kahn at May 7, 2007 11:52 PM
Next on the agenda, reparations for the Japanese flyers descendents killed during the Pearl Harbor attacks.
Posted by:
William Teach at May 8, 2007 09:39 AM
Kahn,
I had the same thought. It turns out that America possessed Guam after the Spanish-American War, but its inhabitants were not official U.S. citizens until the 1950s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam_Organic_Act_of_1950
Gar Wood
Posted by: Gar Wood at May 8, 2007 09:56 AM
Posted by: Kahn at May 8, 2007 11:17 AM
EsstraRoman - big words for a new poster. Asswipe.
Posted by: Kahn at May 8, 2007 01:50 PM
"Caucus of Corruption...burning up the bestsellers on Amazon! #340,485 with a bullet!"
Typical leftard venom. Book was released today, crackhappy.
Posted by:
William Teach at May 8, 2007 02:07 PM
The Goracle may not have apologized before 9/11, but, he sure did afterwards
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-2_15_06_Bevan.html
Posted by:
William Teach at May 8, 2007 02:10 PM
My comments were part of that new thing called "sarcasm". You liberals should read this.
Here's the money quote;
"So the next time you’re watching or listening to a liberal, observe the symptoms I’ve mentioned. Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults, [] and the eagerness to placate our enemies, the better to avoid a fight so that those enemies will “like” us."(Emphasis added)
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 8, 2007 02:40 PM
Btw, if you don't like RealClear Politics, how about the website from the Saudi-US Relations Information Service? (The ones who held the conference that William referenced)
"Gore said Arabs had been 'indiscriminately rounded up' and held in 'unforgivable' conditions."
Now, rage some anger directed at me for pointing this out; Be a liberal.
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 8, 2007 02:58 PM
"Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults, "
Can you prove the 10% thing. Citing Prison Planet is not allowed.
And, BTW, care to comment on the topic of the post, ie, Democrats in Congress giving our money to citizens of Guam for Japanese atrocities, or would that knock you off your talking points, EsstraRoman?
Posted by:
William Teach at May 8, 2007 04:30 PM
“Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults,”
“Fact: less than 10 percent of Gitmo detainees have been proven to have Al Qaeda or Taliban ties.”
Too bad your “fact” is a load of steaming horse crap!
Here’s the list; read the evidence, pay attention to the statement;
“An enemy combatant has been defined as "an individual who was part of or supporting the Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. This includes any person who committed a belligerent act or has directly supported hostilities in aid of enemy armed forces."
Back on subject; to pay $$ to the citizens of Guam for attempting to defend their homeland cheapens the US men and women that died in their defense and liberation.
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 8, 2007 04:38 PM
These released detainees?
Funny he’d mention the Civil War, Republicans like Lincoln and Martin Luther King were really big on that segregationist thing, unlike KKK Robert Byrd and the rest of the southern democrats that lynched and burned Black churches throughout the South.
You, sir are not worth my time, now go educate yourself.
Hypocrite; thy name is Liberal.
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 8, 2007 04:56 PM
Still waiting for those facts, esstra.
Posted by:
William Teach at May 8, 2007 05:28 PM
Never mind there are no former slaves still alive.
Well, if one shows up, and can prove he/she was a slave before the emancipation, then I will gladly pay the reparations.
EsstraRoman - big words for a new poster. Asswipe.
Kahn, the asswipe is not a new poster--it's Romanesstra, posting under a new IPA. Ban the asswipe!!!
Posted by: keefer at May 8, 2007 06:15 PM
Mark
Of course the Japanese committed horrible atrocities - but so did the US. To say that ONLY Japan did and we never have is about as bone headed as one can possible be. A position only supported by those who believe America - can not - by definition ever do something wrong.
LEARN SOME HISTORY
Posted by: kblack77 at May 8, 2007 06:59 PM
You insufferable sack o'crap!
What atrocities were committed by Americans on the people of Guam? Put up or shut up.
Posted by: Dasein Libsbane at May 8, 2007 07:12 PM
Bane,
Dr. Rerun never puts up--he's never posted links to anything to back up his sick claims. He should be banned for slandering the greatest generation.
Dr. Rerun, you'd better behave, before Handora cuts you off. Asshat...
Posted by: keefer at May 8, 2007 09:28 PM
Why in the world would we be using taxpayer money on U.S. citizens of Guam? Soon certain congressman will want us to give taxpayer money to citizens of Iraq to rebuild infrastructure.
Posted by: Plainjane at May 8, 2007 09:45 PM
Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults
Geez, Bane, you came down kinda hard on keefer right there.
Posted by: SeesThroughIt at May 8, 2007 10:04 PM
kblack77 - what attrocities did America commit oh history guru?
Posted by: Kahn at May 9, 2007 01:06 AM
kblack77 - what attrocities did America commit oh history guru?
Kahn, their atrocity, in Dr. Rerun's warped view, is that they're Americans, so they must've done something wrong. After all, we came here, killed off most of the Indians, then got bored, and traveled the world, killing all in our path. It's what we do, in Dr. Rerun's warped view--it's what we do...
Posted by: keefer at May 9, 2007 05:30 AM
"living Guam residents who were killed"??
The rep from Guam Madeline Bordallo, so could it be that Pelosi promised these reparations to Guam for her vote to withdraw from Iraq?
We are going to see all these crazy pieces of legislation so that we can claim defeat in Iraq!
Bane, leave it to a statistician to catch such a "minor" error.
You caught it too, didn't you, Spook? It jumped right out at me. Hell, I bet even Dr. Rerun caught it...
Maybe I'm just picking fly $h*t out of the pepper; but who would vote for such a measure?
I know Bill Clinton apologized on behalf of "white America" for slavery, and the North Carolina democrat party apologized for the 1898 race riot in 2007, and Algore apologized to Moslems worldwide before the plane hit the South Tower ... but, c'mon, shouldn’t the Japanese first accept responsibility before we go picking up the tab?
"The rep from Guam Madeline Bordallo, so could it be that Pelosi promised these reparations to Guam for her vote to withdraw from Iraq?"
The Rep from Guam doesn't have a vote.
Maybe this is a stepping stone towards reparations to slaves. Never mind there are no former slaves still alive.
Unfortunately government compensation to the surviving relatives of the 9/11 victims has set a terrible precedent.
The argument can always be raised "if they were compensated why not (fill in the blank)"
There is nothing that will be exempt, there is no statute of limitations. The American taxpayer is on the hook forever for any claim, just or unjust.
Do any of you Democrats have an explanation?
It's the liberal philosophy (someone suffered, so it must be something America did) combined with the rest of the world's (except Australia) philosophy (let America do it).
All,
This stems all the way to the passage of the Guam Meritorious Claims Act of 1945, which sought to compensate Guam citizens for their valor and suffering resulting from loyalty to American troops during World War II. Guam nationals successfully hid thousands of American troops, and the Japanese punished them as a result, and Congress after World War II thought that they deserved compensation from America. Check out this speech by Bordallo for more information:
http://www.house.gov/bordallo/gwcrc/Bordallo_Statement_120803.htm
When you consider we spend $255 million a DAY on the Iraqi people, this is chump change for people that played a critical role in winning the war in the Pacific.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15377059/
Gar Wood
Gar, "Guam nationals"? Guam was, and is a U.S. Territory. Guam citizens are U.S. citizens. I served in the Marine Corps with several.
Intersting historical note however.
Next on the agenda, reparations for the Japanese flyers descendents killed during the Pearl Harbor attacks.
Kahn,
I had the same thought. It turns out that America possessed Guam after the Spanish-American War, but its inhabitants were not official U.S. citizens until the 1950s.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guam_Organic_Act_of_1950
Gar Wood
I stand corrected.
EsstraRoman - big words for a new poster. Asswipe.
"Caucus of Corruption...burning up the bestsellers on Amazon! #340,485 with a bullet!"
Typical leftard venom. Book was released today, crackhappy.
The Goracle may not have apologized before 9/11, but, he sure did afterwards
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Commentary/com-2_15_06_Bevan.html
My comments were part of that new thing called "sarcasm". You liberals should read this.
Here's the money quote;
Btw, if you don't like RealClear Politics, how about the website from the Saudi-US Relations Information Service? (The ones who held the conference that William referenced)
"Gore said Arabs had been 'indiscriminately rounded up' and held in 'unforgivable' conditions."
Now, rage some anger directed at me for pointing this out; Be a liberal.
"Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults, "
Can you prove the 10% thing. Citing Prison Planet is not allowed.
And, BTW, care to comment on the topic of the post, ie, Democrats in Congress giving our money to citizens of Guam for Japanese atrocities, or would that knock you off your talking points, EsstraRoman?
“Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults,”
“Fact: less than 10 percent of Gitmo detainees have been proven to have Al Qaeda or Taliban ties.”
Too bad your “fact” is a load of steaming horse crap!
Here’s the list; read the evidence, pay attention to the statement;
“An enemy combatant has been defined as "an individual who was part of or supporting the Taliban or al Qaeda forces, or associated forces that are engaged in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners. This includes any person who committed a belligerent act or has directly supported hostilities in aid of enemy armed forces."
Back on subject; to pay $$ to the citizens of Guam for attempting to defend their homeland cheapens the US men and women that died in their defense and liberation.
These released detainees?
Funny he’d mention the Civil War, Republicans like Lincoln and Martin Luther King were really big on that segregationist thing, unlike KKK Robert Byrd and the rest of the southern democrats that lynched and burned Black churches throughout the South.
You, sir are not worth my time, now go educate yourself.
Hypocrite; thy name is Liberal.
Still waiting for those facts, esstra.
Never mind there are no former slaves still alive.
Well, if one shows up, and can prove he/she was a slave before the emancipation, then I will gladly pay the reparations.
EsstraRoman - big words for a new poster. Asswipe.
Kahn, the asswipe is not a new poster--it's Romanesstra, posting under a new IPA. Ban the asswipe!!!
Mark
Of course the Japanese committed horrible atrocities - but so did the US. To say that ONLY Japan did and we never have is about as bone headed as one can possible be. A position only supported by those who believe America - can not - by definition ever do something wrong.
LEARN SOME HISTORY
You insufferable sack o'crap!
What atrocities were committed by Americans on the people of Guam? Put up or shut up.
Bane,
Dr. Rerun never puts up--he's never posted links to anything to back up his sick claims. He should be banned for slandering the greatest generation.
Dr. Rerun, you'd better behave, before Handora cuts you off. Asshat...
Why in the world would we be using taxpayer money on U.S. citizens of Guam? Soon certain congressman will want us to give taxpayer money to citizens of Iraq to rebuild infrastructure.
Note the anger, the pessimism, the negativity, the name-calling, the bursts of rage, the gratuitous insults
Geez, Bane, you came down kinda hard on keefer right there.
kblack77 - what attrocities did America commit oh history guru?
kblack77 - what attrocities did America commit oh history guru?
Kahn, their atrocity, in Dr. Rerun's warped view, is that they're Americans, so they must've done something wrong. After all, we came here, killed off most of the Indians, then got bored, and traveled the world, killing all in our path. It's what we do, in Dr. Rerun's warped view--it's what we do...