Every single time I see the dems lined up in front of the microphones to excoriate Bush over this or that piddly issue, Im reminded of the Star Wars bar scene.

Madam Greedo, call the house to order.

But, but Leo, they're DemocRATs--the rules don't apply to them...

Yep, Leo that's the Hillary game-appeal to ALL people-One day this group, one day that group. She and Bill are trying their damndest to show all
the people what good they would do-uh, didn't they
have that opportunity before, when they put this country at the mercy of future terrorist attacks?

Excellent post, Leo.

Wonder if Obama's and Hillary's yes vote will bite them in the a$$ later? I hope so.

The Senate doesn't control the money. All Nancy PMS has to do is not let a funding bill make it to the floor in the House. Thats it. No vote. No veto. Just her and the consequences.

Lipstick on a pig huh? I guess that presupposes that one is not attracted to pigs,(hence the dis) albeit ugly ones that they feel compelled to interjoin with anyway. (Can I be so graphic? I hope so. My words will further my point.)
This website is dedicated to people who have zealous allegence to religious dogma. The same type of dogma that they decry on an hourly basis all in the name of what is (1st) GWB, then "America" and then "good christian values".
I say, whats the difference between those that you hate, those that you are so afraid of because they want to kill you,(maybe) and (ultimately) yourselves?
I would ask, "why are they so willing to kill?"
Is it because they are "evil"? No.
Is it because they have no power? Maybe..
Is it because of hoplesness and poverty and religion (a belief in anything has to be better than this miserable existence)....More so I say.

Lets for a moment examine the "intelligence" that led The United States and England (primarily) into Iraq as a conquering force that has so far failed to conquer. (And, again I ask, is conquering REALLY the smart answer? No, it is not.)
This is the same intellegence (read smarts) who told Alberto Gonzallez and Andrew Card to go to Ashcrofts hospital bed to attempt to coerice him into signing documents that would have allowed the continuation of illegal conduct.And while Ashcroft was high on 6 days of morphine. (Believe me, I know. I have had pancreatitus 3 times and the only known cure is saliene solution and narcotics.)
So was it Bush who suggested this uspurption of the law?
No, probably not. He is far to dim to think of this complicated a plot on his own. He cant't even think of putting two words together in a coeherent sentence when he is lucid. He must have gotten really REALLY drunk to forget how to speak permenently! No, it was Cheney and Rove.
Wolfowitz is gone. Read about him.
Comey? Is he too guilty of treason?
How about my girlfriend Monica testifying next week. Limited immunity.
But I know that when someone like myself exposes these people for what they are you have a default program to defend them.

Robots.
godloveya

mdebde - Just do not let a funding bill make it to the floor in the House. Thats it. No vote. No veto. Just the consequences.

Get it? YOUR party has the power. Do it, but shut up about it OK? You don't like us, we get it. JUST DO IT ALREADY. You can end the war. DO IT!

But if you don't, well then stop your bitching.

Oh, and its possible we don't like you either.

He is far to dim to think of this complicated a plot on his own.

And you're far too dim to type a simple sentence without making a third-grade error.

To, two, and too--look 'em up, dimwit.

But I know that when someone like myself exposes these people for what they are you have a default program to defend them.

You exposed them? You work for 60 Minutes? ABC? NBC? The sanitation department?

What the hell kind of name is "mdebde?" You ain't from around here, are you?

You guys are really somethin else...

You make these statements as if the Democrats are Satan incarnate, and Republicans are Saints with hearts of gold.

They're ALL a bunch of manipulating, self-serving rats... It's nearly impossible to reach any high political office without considerable funding translating to donations that have obvious strings attached.

Quit cheering for your party like they were some hometown football team. I am so sick of Democrats & Republicans who root for their team when they get away with a bad call, or slip through hearings without answering a single question...

ALL of these frauds answer to US. The PEOPLE.

Our nation is in trouble as long as we stay divided. As long as we point fingers at each other instead of the people in power we are failing in our duty.

Stop being manipulated, and ask the tough questions from your party be it Democrat OR Republican.

If not for you, then do it for our children. Do it for our Nation.

In the simplest terms this is why the GOP will lose their little war in Iraq and the American people will no longer be cowed by "Long War" or the Global War on Terror fallacy. Nothing is being sacrificed on the home front for one because the GOP and those for whom they work know that causing lifestyle discomfort for Americans is political suicide.

Given the choice between actually generating enough fresh trained American soldiers and cutting of the funding for the war every member of the GOP in the House knows they would vote for bringing the troops home. Their alternative would be extending the war for another ten years and reinstituting the draft for all able bodied men between the ages of 17 and 39. This would give you a pool of 60 million eligible soldiers, sailors and airmen to choose from. The US military could be tripled in size in one year. This coupled with a floundering Ford Motor Company being converted to producing Humvees and hardened troop transports on a round the clock schedule could even in the most pessimistic minds here turn the tide toward the counterinsurgency. Unless, the GOP is willing to scale back the economy of consumerism at all cost, which would certainly anger the average voter be he evangelical or not, the last time I checked evangelicals were conspicuous consumers as well, there is no way to achieve anything coming close to victory. What the political Right Wing wishes to do is to save face. That comes at the cost of the nearly 3500 soldiers dead and millions of Iraqis who have had their lives destroyed by death, raging sectarian violence in this civil war or displacement. All this done to maintain your comfort in America’s land of plenty from my perch does not seem worth the costs. Bring the troops home, engage Iran diplomatically and start to tell your people that their world is going to become a much more violent place. The only way al Qaeda or any other terror group can destroy America is if neocons continue to tell Americans that they are frightened sheep ripe for slaughtering. The WW2 generation would have spit in the eye of anyone who wanted to blow up anything in America and in this I can see some of the weakness of a society moving in a more progressive direction. Still I must also take the conservatives to task who have played on the fears of common citizens to build themselves up with political power. Where does such a thing end with Americans running for their lives in the streets creating a chaos such that you can suspend individual rights? What exactly was the goal of a permanent majority run by neocons who were the Communists of old dressed up in three piece suits carrying Bibles? Who would have filled the death camps of the neocons?

I would ask, "why are they so willing to kill?"
Is it because they are "evil"? No.
Is it because they have no power? Maybe..
Is it because of hoplesness and poverty and religion (a belief in anything has to be better than this miserable existence)....More so I say. - mdebde

So, you're saying that the Islamic Jihadists are killing each other because they're poor and feel hopelessness? Mind you, they kill each other at a far accelerated rate than they do others. Also, considering your demented logic, they must be killing the nightclubbers in Jakarta and the school children in Beslin Russia because they feel underprivileged. Those poor dears.

Lets for a moment examine the "intelligence" that led The United States and England (primarily) into Iraq as a conquering force that has so far failed to conquer. (And, again I ask, is conquering REALLY the smart answer? No, it is not.)- mdebde

Let's do consider that intelligence shall we? That intelligence emanated from the CIA and the director, Mr. George Tenet, appointed by boy wonder Mr. Billy Clinton, who used that same intelligence to determine that the Sudan Aspirin factory was the place to bomb and, along with Mr. Janet Reno, determined that killing women and children in Waco was the best course of action to take following an indictment on a small weapons charge.

But I know that when someone like myself exposes these people for what they are you have a default program to defend them. - mdebde

I have noticed you disappear every time I confront you. Certainly someone with your degree of intelligence could muster a reply to conservative rebuttal. I look forward to your reply.

And God does love you.

I didn't mean intelligence in the sense of facts, I meant intelligence in the sense of smarts, intellect and the ability to critically think things through. A trait that is sadly lacking in your dear leader. You are not a conservative Neocon, at least not in the traditional sense. No, you are an authoritarian and as such there is no rebuttal because you are impervious to facts. If you were a conservative, you would be as outraged as the majority of Americans are over the incompetence, deciet and probable criminality of the Bush administration. Is the curtailment of civil rights something that you defend? Is the mismanagement of Iraq a sign of sober minded clear thinking? Is the AG situation indicitive of the defense of the impartiality? How about the response to Katrina or Terri Schiavo? How come so many conservatives have come out against Bush? Can they all be wrong? No, they are not. They see that Bush has done all he can to essentially subvert the constitution (which he called just a piece of paper) alienated most of the world and created a far worse problem in the middle east than existed before. If you want to see what level headed conservatives think go to Conservatives Betrayed or Andrew Sullivan or The American Prospect or even the Cato institute. You might change your mind.

Oh okay, I get it, so cutting funding for the troops, which would force them to come home and be OUT of danger's way, is treason, while Bush lying to the entire world about our reasons for invading Iraq and getting us stuck in the middle of a civil war isn't? Make's perfect sense, of course.

I also love how I read the comments rules which say no slander or libel about people, yet almost every comment is mainly name-calling the Democrats. I don't agree with almost all of the Democrats but atleast I have enough dignity to talk about them respectfully instead of resorting to unintelligent schoolyard insults.

Why does Clinton need to be brought into every single debate? What does Bill Clinton have ANYTHING to do with this debate? Nothing, at all. You seem to be forgetting that many people, such as Joseph Wilson, told Bush BEFOREHAND that the claims of WMDs in Iraq was nonsense, and what happened? His wife was just conveniently outed as a CIA spy by Rove & his cronies, endangering her life and anyone connected to her---THAT is treason, not trying to change a policy that has proven to be incredibly inept and makes no sense whatsoever, as our current Iraq policy doesn't.

Hey Colon, let's do some very minor mental gymnastics okay? Suppose you tell me something, like the price of rice in China is $3/pound. I then ask my trusted friends/co-workers who are experts on China and rice production and they agree that rice is indeed $3/pound. I then get on the phone and check with more friends around the world who also tell me that rice is $3/pound.

Are you suggesting that if I then tell my mother, based on all prevailing opinions, that rice is $3/pound that I am lying to her if we later find out that rice is only $2/pound?

Wholly crap batman, that is a pretty strong litmus test for telling the truth. The only difference here is not the price of rice but the fate of the Western World. But hey, if they aren't democRATS who gives a toss right?

mdebde - name some civil rights you lost under Bush. You say we are impervious to facts, but refuse to acknowledge facts presented to you.

Colin - A lie is a falsehood knowing uttered, yes? Name one.

Meanwhile, just don't pass a spending bill for the troops. That is in your power. No votes, no vetos. Do it. Call your Democratic congressperson (don't even have to get the Senate involved, they can't initiate a spending bill) and tell them to not vote for funding.

Why won't you acknowlede this? You DO really want to end the war, right? Sooooo - end it. That is the Constitutional power your party holds. Use it. Use it or shut up.

We disagree with you. But you have the power to ignore that and force an end. So why are you wasting your time and enormous brains on us? Call your democrat congressperson and tell him or her to note vote for funds for the war in Iraq. No timetable. No excuses how it MIGHT not lead to a regional war. No name calling. No false claims of lies. No anything but an end to the war.

Y-O-U H-A-V-E T-H-E P-O-W-E-R

So write Pelosi, not me.

I know your little metaphors sound intelligent, but you have failed to look up FACTS. Like the FACT that MANY PEOPLE told Bush Iraq had NO WMDS, and had NO CONNECTION to Al-Qaeda, among them Joseph Wilson who we all know what happened to his wife. Did you even read my comment? Many people told Bush that Iraq had no WMDs.

Let's see, I'll just give you one lie of theirs since you asked so nicely. They said that they knew EXACTLY where the WMDs in Iraq were. Really? How was THAT not a lie? How do you know where something is if it IS NOT THERE. That's not a lie?