The biggest problem I have with the left, is not that they want to surrender, it’s why they want to surrender.
Forget the fact that the previous administration’s intel (bill Clinton) and the rest of the top dems in Washington droned on and on about saddam’s wmd’s. forget the fact that the current admin’s intel saw the same thing, and practically the rest of the world’s intel for that matter. Forget that all the same intel also said that AQ was operating inside of iraq. Forget the fact that saddam violated resolution after resolution from the UN. Not to mention all the rape, murder, torture, etc…going on to his own people and to his neighbors.
Let’s also forget how many times America has been attacked around the world and then here at home on 9/11. and we’ll also forget the fact that there was no response for these attacks until after 9/11.
Forget all of that. What bothers me the most is that THE ONLY WAY for the dems to gain power back was to go the anti-war route. Hell the teddy the swimmer was calling iraq a quagmire 2 days into the campaign. He was already making comparisons to Vietnam. (which you can’t make no matter how hard you try). Their only chance to get their power back was not to agree with the president (even though most dems saw and voted for the same intel that Clinton had), and complain about everything he would do. After 9/11 the country was united and that was not good for the dems and they all know it. They are the ones who made the divide, not bush or the GOP. If the country stayed united, the dem party would cease to exist.
Instead of coming up with any solutions to help win the war, the dems simply threw up their hands and said it can’t be won, we need to get out. They keep a death toll of our soldiers and secretly cheer every time it hits a “milestone” because it makes bush look worse. Even though more people died on the highways of north Carolina last month then soldiers died in iraq last month. Even though more soldiers died in the matter of 4 hours during WWII than have died in both iraq and Afghanistan.
If the dems really wanted to help this country succeed, they wouldn’t throw up road blocks every step of the way and say no, no, no, no. in other words, instead of continually complaining about how the war is mismanaged, throw out some ideas that would help manage the war better. Saying it’s a lost cause and we shouldn’t have either been there, and bush lied, and haliburton, isn’t helping. It’s sitting on your hands hoping that the more people you get to believe you will help you regain power. Meanwhile our troops, who the dems say they support, are in harms way, hear everything the dems say and disagree with it wholeheartedly. They want to win! We want them to win. The left wants them to lose in the hopes of regaining power. It’s like cheering for your favorite team to lose because you don’t like the coach and want him to get fired. Except lives are at stake. Every time a lefty calls for the removal of our troops all they are doing is playing politics with their lives. No more, no less.
The lefty blogs are having a lovefest over the death of Reverend Falwell--any of you troll pukes care to attempt to slam this great man here?
mandate...manDATE...MANDATE...MANDAAAAAATE!
Only twenty nine votes mustered even though the American people voted the dems in with a mandate to stop the war NOW. The liberal circle-jerk continues.
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Discuss these and any other issues which come to mind.
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Just kidding! Ok, humor isn't big around here.
Yes, I'm a lefty, but I hope book sales are going well. My wife is an author, and it's a tough biz.
I recognize the power of the "active consumer" when it comes to media, that the act of reading a book, or watching a documentary like "Fahrenheit 9-11" can either strengthen your beliefs, or strengthen your disbelief in it's subject matter, regardless of the author's intent.
A lefty reading your book is a bit like a guy reading Glamour as an attempt to understand women. Conversion is highly unlikely, but understanding is expanded, always a plus in my book.
On an unrelated subject, why aren't Bush backers playing up the angle that when Alberto Gonzales tried to get Ashcroft to sign off on a bad spy policy, and he refused (while in a hospital bed), and Comey refused, and threatened to resign over it, Bush stepped in and smoothed it out, an event that paints Bush as smarter than the entire Justice Department combined? Odd.
Well, we once again see the 'real Pelosi'-hard as nails, and just as mean. This, the woman who in my state, claimed they were going to 'clean up the
corrupt govt?....only if She, Reid, Kennedy, Kerry
Hillary, etc. resign. The info in your first chapter on Pelosi, Mark, tells what she has done to claw her way into the present position she holds. If the GOP, don't act quickly, to smack this power hungry woman in her tracks, then they are to blame for all the grief she tends to bring to them. She is an embarassment to California-or at least those of us, who have seen through her from the beginning of her career. Talk about graft and corruption-she wrote the book, but I'd like to know why she isn't stopped??
The biggest problem I have with the left, is not that they want to surrender, it’s why they want to surrender.
Forget the fact that the previous administration’s intel (bill Clinton) and the rest of the top dems in Washington droned on and on about saddam’s wmd’s. forget the fact that the current admin’s intel saw the same thing, and practically the rest of the world’s intel for that matter. Forget that all the same intel also said that AQ was operating inside of iraq. Forget the fact that saddam violated resolution after resolution from the UN. Not to mention all the rape, murder, torture, etc…going on to his own people and to his neighbors.
Let’s also forget how many times America has been attacked around the world and then here at home on 9/11. and we’ll also forget the fact that there was no response for these attacks until after 9/11.
Forget all of that. What bothers me the most is that THE ONLY WAY for the dems to gain power back was to go the anti-war route. Hell the teddy the swimmer was calling iraq a quagmire 2 days into the campaign. He was already making comparisons to Vietnam. (which you can’t make no matter how hard you try). Their only chance to get their power back was not to agree with the president (even though most dems saw and voted for the same intel that Clinton had), and complain about everything he would do. After 9/11 the country was united and that was not good for the dems and they all know it. They are the ones who made the divide, not bush or the GOP. If the country stayed united, the dem party would cease to exist.
Instead of coming up with any solutions to help win the war, the dems simply threw up their hands and said it can’t be won, we need to get out. They keep a death toll of our soldiers and secretly cheer every time it hits a “milestone” because it makes bush look worse. Even though more people died on the highways of north Carolina last month then soldiers died in iraq last month. Even though more soldiers died in the matter of 4 hours during WWII than have died in both iraq and Afghanistan.
If the dems really wanted to help this country succeed, they wouldn’t throw up road blocks every step of the way and say no, no, no, no. in other words, instead of continually complaining about how the war is mismanaged, throw out some ideas that would help manage the war better. Saying it’s a lost cause and we shouldn’t have either been there, and bush lied, and haliburton, isn’t helping. It’s sitting on your hands hoping that the more people you get to believe you will help you regain power. Meanwhile our troops, who the dems say they support, are in harms way, hear everything the dems say and disagree with it wholeheartedly. They want to win! We want them to win. The left wants them to lose in the hopes of regaining power. It’s like cheering for your favorite team to lose because you don’t like the coach and want him to get fired. Except lives are at stake. Every time a lefty calls for the removal of our troops all they are doing is playing politics with their lives. No more, no less.
I have read some interesting statistics, how valid they are Im not sure. In the last 22 months in Iraq, on average we have had 160,000 troops there and 2,112 firearm deaths, thats 60 per 100,000 a month on average. On the other hand Washington D.C. has averaged 80.6 per 100,000 per month on the average, thats means your 25% more likely to be killed in our nations capital when it comes to firearms, so Nate they better not send Prince Harry to D.C.
Nate,
I hold differently on that subject - while I admire Prince Harry's grit and courage, the plain fact of the matter is that his presence in Iraq would have painted a bulls eye on his whole unit and a lot of men probably would have died while fanatics by the score just tried to kill a British prince for purely propaganda purposes. Just not worth the trouble.
Congressive,
We actually hope it has at least the conversion power to convince the left to clean itself up. Corruption really is endemic to the Democratic Party and the primary reason for this is that no one calls them on it.
Preferential treatment, GNate? Prince Harry wanted to go, and they wouldn't send him. What's preferential about that, moron?
1) Funny thing how mandates seem to just evaporate into thin air.
2) Didnt the dems have something to say about locking out the minority? Didnt the dems say something about being fair and bi partisan if they were in charge? Funny thing how campaign promises seem to just evaporate into thin air.
I just thought, If Nancy manages to get her rule changes thru, it just might be the ONLY thing she actually accomplishes this year.
Yep, they turned Prince Harry into a REMF.
I choose not to ignore Nate's first sentence.
Am I allowed to opine that he is vile????