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April 30, 2007
Dispatch From the Lost War

That is what Harry said it was, and it is certainly what nearly all American leftists think it is...but for a lost war, it does have some odd events - from Omar Fadhil over at Pajamas Media:

On Friday night, soldiers from the 5th brigade 6th division of the Iraqi army captured 75 militants and confiscated their weapons in al-Yarmouk district in western Baghdad. Qasim Ata the spokesman of Baghdad operations said the militants were found hiding in a large container loaded on a truck. It’s not clear what the militants’ destination or plans were.

In the second operation 72 suspected terrorists were captured in raids in Samrra and Anbar. Bomb-making material was discovered too.

The details of the third operation are yet to be confirmed but if the report of al-Hurra is true then this one is the most significant of the three. Al-Hurra said that the artillery barrage was followed by raids by joint Iraqi-American forces on militants’ positions in Albu Eitha and around Dora and reported that the overall operation left 70 militants killed.

Meanwhile, something small in size, big in meaning is brewing in Adhamiya. Yesterday I was asked by our friend Bill Roggio (whose reporting I admire and recommend) whether I thought the Sunni in Baghdad would follow the example of the Awakening Council of Anbar. That council is made up of Sunni tribes that have turned against al-Qaeda and are now fighting a fierce war against them side by side with government forces.

I couldn’t answer that question. The difference in social structures between tribal Ramadi and urban Baghdad alters everything. The tribal structure allows for safe communication among the members of the same tribe or clan. They most often live in the same geographic area and tend to consider themselves “cousins”. In Baghdad this doesn’t exist, making it difficult to safely spread the word among many people.

Even so, it seems that the question might have an answer now, and a positive one.

Al-Sabah reported today that “some community leaders in Adhamiya are working on forming a salvation council for their own district they will be calling The Adhamiya Awakening. Sources close to the leaders said they (the leaders) have managed to win the support of some hundred people who agree with the new position. The sources asserted that the goal of the Awakening is to rid Adhamiya of the terrorists.”

The capture of 75 and 72 terrorists is significant - not so much in the numbers (though that is a good bag), but in the fact that when you capture that many, it means you got the drop on them before they knew you were there...and that means, most likely, that they were betrayed. This could be a strong indicator that the Iraqis are more and more helping the Iraqi, American and Coalition forces.

More and more it seems that the conviction we are defeated is becoming an unreasonable shriek. A good, recent example of this is currently over at Dean's World. So invested are the critics in the BUSH LIED!!! and THE WAR IS LOST!!! meme that they simply cannot, without feeling like complete fools, back away...and as the evidence continues to mount that we're making great progress with the surge, the more determined the left is to shout that all is lost and, of course, do whatever they can in the realm of politics to make it lost. What is really sad about it is that these critics, for all their self-professed love of humanity, are taking no account of the actual people of Iraq...not the statistics on the dead, but the actual living, breathing people...300,000 of which are figting right alongside us, and millions of whom voted for liberty over tyranny.

They are our friends, these brave Iraqis who fight alongside us and this American, at least, will never, ever abandon them.

Posted by Mark Noonan at April 30, 2007 07:49 AM


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So when do you leave for boot camp?

Posted by: Jon parker [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 09:08 AM

Parker,

Mark will leave for boot camp directly following your cerebral vortex operation. It's obvious it has become unhinged.

Posted by: Jay at April 30, 2007 09:36 AM

Jon parker,

I'd be willing to wager that if we did a survey, a significantly higher percentage of conservative posters on this site have served in uniform compared to the liberal trolls who lurk around here.

I'm willing to start the survey: 27 years total miliary service, 20 years on active duty. Continue to serve as a DoD contracted employee.

How about you, Ms parker, how many years did you serve your country?

Posted by: A-10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 09:42 AM

Jon, Mark went through boot camp back in the 80's. How about you?

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 09:48 AM

Sorry, A-10, I should have hit "refresh" before I posted. I'll join your survey, though. U.S. Navy Security Group/Navy Reserve Security Group, 1965 - 1989.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 09:51 AM

8 years USN, Silent Service, 1983-1991

Posted by: Joel [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 11:35 AM

USN 1983 - 1987. Served on the USS Orion, AS-18 and the USS Connolly, DD-979. 7 month deployment to the Persian Gulf 1985-1986 to watch Iranians and Iraqis kill each other and protect American and neutral shipping in the Gulf...and during that time, lefties, we went to GQ whenever an Iranian OR Iraqi military asset got close...because both were considered hostile to the United States.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 12:13 PM

And why are the lefties unwilling to talk about content of the post?

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 12:18 PM

Mark, if you or your readers were interested, there is a great dvd I got from amazon for $4.00 used, called CNN Tribute, America Remembers. It begins with CNN's coverage just before the attacks on 9/11 and continues through the war in Afghanistan. It is 90 minutes and the footage is unreal. As an extra on the dvd, they have President Bush's entire speech before congress, which I believe was on September 20, 2007. Prime Minister Tony Blair was in attendence as well as Todd Beemers wife, Lisa Beemer. The dvd contains no conspiracy theories and no Bush Hate Derangement Syndrome. It was very inspiring watching President Bush's inspiring leadership, letting us know this will be a long war and asking for americas patience. On Amazon, I typed in under the category dvd, 9/11. We must never forget.

Posted by: james allegro at April 30, 2007 01:04 PM

If more troops have died in 1Q07 compared to last year, how has the surge worked? If there hasn't been a significant drop in Iraqi civilian casualties, can someone explain to me how the surge is working? If US troops can't stay in Iraq indefinitely, how do we know if the surge, in the long run, will work?

Iraqis ARE NOT our friends Bushbloggers. They are our FRIENDS now, as they procure money, weapons, and protection from us, but when we leave the AK47's and mortars will be aimed at Americans. Remember Afghanistan?

Posted by: RationalThinker at April 30, 2007 01:41 PM

are you kidding me, mark? i followed the link, i read the story, penned by none other than OMAR FADHIL. readers might be interested to know (Ed. Note: Paranoid, conspiracy theory about Iraq the Model deleted - to paraphrase, Fadhil knows people in American who support the liberation of Iraq, ergo he's just a paid stooge of Chimpy McSmirk BusHitler).

Posted by: conscriptor [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 01:57 PM

And your military experience conscriptor?

I am the first to admit that I have none - I was refused because of a bad heart (found out later it is hereditary). That is why I will defer on military matters to the experts.

Posted by: kjstrouble [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 02:10 PM

now why would the oil and gas industry be looking to bankroll iraqi bloggers to promote face-saving, pro-US propaganda that is in turn disseminated as "real and accurate" reporting from baghdad? - conscriptor

very possibly for the same reason that moveon.org and media matters promote every IED and anti-US propaganda that is in turn disseminated as a "real and accurate" assesment of Baghdad.


hmmm.........

Posted by: Jay at April 30, 2007 02:15 PM

LCpl Lefty Troll
USMC 1972 1976
3RD-MAW MCAS(H)

For some strange reasson Mark won't post my info on his blog. I guess it's his way of thanking me for my years of service. Semper Fi you right-wing maggots.

PS
Are we talking about military service, or are we talking about being in the Navy?

Carry on.

(Ed. Note: This comment was posted in order to demonstrate to the commenter that we do honor our veterans - but the "right-wing maggots" is fairly typical of "mike h" comments, and that is why none of them have ever appeared here before...nor will any of them appear again, unless "mike h" reaches back into his military service and learns some basic manners and shows a little respect for all and sundry.)

Posted by: mike h at April 30, 2007 04:13 PM

that is a new low, mark. now selectively editing comments for supposed conspiratorial bent?

leave it up to your readers to decide what is fact and what is 'paranoid conspiracy'. let everyone do their own research. you selectively DELETE information to throw a blanket on it altogether. i've seen more right-wing, lunatic conspiracies emanating from this site and yet you complacently stand aside. that's cowardly.

Posted by: conscriptor [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 04:57 PM

conscriptor,

I challenge you to name one "right-wing, lunatic conspiracies emanating from this site".

Perhaps that 9/11 was an inside job?....Oops, that's a liberal conspiracy.

That we only went into Iraq for the oil?....Oops, once again, a left-wing, lunatic conspiracy.

Maybe, that the government has secret detention camps and all the dissidents will be round up?...Drat, that too is a conspiracy of the left.

Oh, by the way, still waiting for your summary of your extensive service to the country.

Posted by: A-10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 05:11 PM

Oh, by the way, still waiting for your summary of your extensive service to the country.

Don't hold your breath, A-10.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 05:41 PM

USAF, 1976-1996. Spent 15 years in intel, 11.5 of my 20 years were spent overseas.

Silent service? Would that be subs?

Posted by: keefer [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 07:09 PM

Spook,

I'm not. If he had any, he would have responded by now. He's probably visiting wikipedia right now trying to learn as many military terms, ranks, and branches as possible in an attempt to pretend to have served.

Posted by: A-10 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 07:54 PM

"What is really sad about it is that these critics, for all their self-professed love of humanity, are taking no account of the actual people of Iraq...not the statistics on the dead, but the actual living, breathing people...300,000 of which are figting right alongside us, and millions of whom voted for liberty over tyranny.

They are our friends, these brave Iraqis who fight alongside us and this American, at least, will never, ever abandon them."-by Mark Noonan


Well said, Mark! I totally agree!

Posted by: Freedom1 [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 09:41 PM

Marines 77-81

Posted by: Kahn [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 10:36 PM

In the article, "The Waning of the GOP" William F. Buckley Jr also states the war is lost. Isn't he a conservative demi-god to you people?

Posted by: Christian Wright at April 30, 2007 10:47 PM

Thank you all for your service to your country!

Posted by: jules [TypeKey Profile Page] at April 30, 2007 11:01 PM

keefer,

Yeah, but don't let him fool you with that "silent service" stuff...that is just the bubbleheads way of making their service look important...only thing a bubblehead needs to know is which end of the beer bottle to open.

Now, Tin Can sailors, they are the class act.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 1, 2007 01:43 AM

CW,

Mr. Buckley is the godfather of the modern American conservative movement and his place in our affections is unassailable. He is, unfortunately, wrong about Iraq.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 1, 2007 01:45 AM

Keefer,

Yes subs.

Mark,

Tin Can, don't you mean Target. I see you, but you can't see me.

Posted by: Joel [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 1, 2007 09:20 AM

"It is simply untrue that we are making decisive progress in Iraq."

- William F. Buckley, Jr. (4/28/07)

(Link)

Posted by: Yeno2 [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 1, 2007 09:46 AM

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