I am starting to think that the military is fighting this fight on the wrong front. I wonder what will happen if humiliation is heaped upon them again? I wonder if the generals will be able to control them? I wonder if they should try?
Posted by: Kahn at April 23, 2007 01:34 AM
Posted by: Eric at April 23, 2007 01:47 AM
Yah, thats the idea Eric. Plus shotguns and assault rifles.
I remember the Marine Corps after Viet Nam. Now these Marines and soldiers who have dads and uncles who were there understand. The Democrats and the press DECIDED to lose that war. They undercut the military at home. Deja Vue
cheers - asswipe.
Posted by: Kahn at April 23, 2007 02:23 AM
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
Posted by: Eric at April 23, 2007 02:55 AM
Eric-Ask Michael whose father, uncle and many of their friends, spent 8 years in prison after the US left Viet Nam. Ask him about the life people had/have in South Viet Nam? Ask him about the millions of Viet Nam soldiers that were willing to fight for their country if only the US had at least given them the the military equipment to do so. He said they could have won and the North knew it and he suspects that those in the US who wanted us to leave knew it also. so many why questions. Dindy
Posted by: Dindy at April 23, 2007 03:47 AM
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
Who's to say, since Walter and the Dems didn't allow it? Maybe, just maybe, millios of post-war lives could've been spared.
Eric, I echo Khan. Asswipe...
Posted by: keefer at April 23, 2007 04:56 AM
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
It would have prevented the subsequent slaughter of about 800,000 South Vietnamese people by the communists after "re-unification".
Posted by: Bigfoot at April 23, 2007 08:31 AM
How do you win a war against guerrillas who have enough popular support to melt back into the population after they ambush our troops? It is a very low-cost and and efficient way of fighting a superpower behemoth.
This is what people mean when they say, the situation demands a political -- not just a military -- solution. You have to win the hearts and minds. Lose that and it's hard to win. And it's difficult to win the hearts and minds as a foreign power intervening in the internal strife of a civil war.
Posted by: Yeno2 at April 23, 2007 11:46 AM
Eric,
Your post is so stunningly ignorant, it literally takes my breath away.
Next time you come across a native Vietnamese who has settled in this country, ask him or her this same question and you will have your answer forthwith.
Asswipe indeed.
Posted by: GOP 4 ME at April 23, 2007 12:35 PM
GOP 4 ME: Why do you characterize Eric's post as ignorant? If I asked you how many taxicabs there are in New York City, or what did the English stand to gain in the War of Jenkins' Ear, does that mean I'm ignorant? Why not just share knowledge or opinions with people asking questions?
Posted by: Yeno2 at April 23, 2007 01:07 PM
Eric - for cryin out loud read a book, OK? Millions died in Viet nam and Cambodia after we "lost". Get it? Have you ever seen a million people? Moms, dads, kids? You people think you are superior, but you are the most heartless jerks on the plaet.
Cheers asswipe.
Posted by: Kahn at April 23, 2007 05:11 PM
Kahn,
I've actually had the priveledge of visiting Cambodia in 2004. How would things have been better there? Would the Khmer Rouge not have risen to power? What happened was terrible there, just as bad as the Holocaust, but did it happen because we pulled out of Vietnam? Vietnam eventually kicked the Khmer Rouge out of power.
You say millions of people died as a result of us pulling out... or was it a result of us being there in the first place?
Posted by: Eric at April 24, 2007 01:43 AM
I am starting to think that the military is fighting this fight on the wrong front. I wonder what will happen if humiliation is heaped upon them again? I wonder if the generals will be able to control them? I wonder if they should try?
sticks and stones...
Yah, thats the idea Eric. Plus shotguns and assault rifles.
I remember the Marine Corps after Viet Nam. Now these Marines and soldiers who have dads and uncles who were there understand. The Democrats and the press DECIDED to lose that war. They undercut the military at home. Deja Vue
cheers - asswipe.
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
Eric-Ask Michael whose father, uncle and many of their friends, spent 8 years in prison after the US left Viet Nam. Ask him about the life people had/have in South Viet Nam? Ask him about the millions of Viet Nam soldiers that were willing to fight for their country if only the US had at least given them the the military equipment to do so. He said they could have won and the North knew it and he suspects that those in the US who wanted us to leave knew it also. so many why questions. Dindy
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
Who's to say, since Walter and the Dems didn't allow it? Maybe, just maybe, millios of post-war lives could've been spared.
Eric, I echo Khan. Asswipe...
What would victory have accomplished in Vietnam?
It would have prevented the subsequent slaughter of about 800,000 South Vietnamese people by the communists after "re-unification".
How do you win a war against guerrillas who have enough popular support to melt back into the population after they ambush our troops? It is a very low-cost and and efficient way of fighting a superpower behemoth.
This is what people mean when they say, the situation demands a political -- not just a military -- solution. You have to win the hearts and minds. Lose that and it's hard to win. And it's difficult to win the hearts and minds as a foreign power intervening in the internal strife of a civil war.
Eric,
Your post is so stunningly ignorant, it literally takes my breath away.
Next time you come across a native Vietnamese who has settled in this country, ask him or her this same question and you will have your answer forthwith.
Asswipe indeed.
GOP 4 ME: Why do you characterize Eric's post as ignorant? If I asked you how many taxicabs there are in New York City, or what did the English stand to gain in the War of Jenkins' Ear, does that mean I'm ignorant? Why not just share knowledge or opinions with people asking questions?
Eric - for cryin out loud read a book, OK? Millions died in Viet nam and Cambodia after we "lost". Get it? Have you ever seen a million people? Moms, dads, kids? You people think you are superior, but you are the most heartless jerks on the plaet.
Cheers asswipe.
Kahn,
I've actually had the priveledge of visiting Cambodia in 2004. How would things have been better there? Would the Khmer Rouge not have risen to power? What happened was terrible there, just as bad as the Holocaust, but did it happen because we pulled out of Vietnam? Vietnam eventually kicked the Khmer Rouge out of power.
You say millions of people died as a result of us pulling out... or was it a result of us being there in the first place?