Murtha, much like Kerry, likes to wave their "hero" credentials around as if they really were. Their antics betray them, though.

Both have no problem selling out their former 'band of brothers' fighting for our freedoms today.

If a flag is needed for them, the white flag of surrender would be appropriate.

What a joke this kook is--all elected officials should be tested for senility once they start displaying symptoms. Murtha's been off his rocker for a long time now, yet he keeps getting reelected. Of course, the DemocRAT party is loaded with kooks, so he's not alone. Funny, I rarely see any of my guys displaying such behaviour, otherwise the DBM would be all over it.

Even some of the last 28% have to see the pattern. An ambassador that also worked for Republican administrations discovers the President misrepresented to the American people the facts about Iraqi WMD in his State of the Union message. What was the response? Neocons all the way up to the Vice Presidents office conspired to discredit him. Neocons could not win the debate with Kerry so he was Swift-boated. After many trips to Iraq to see for himself, one of the most conservative democrats, Murtha discovers what the neocons where up too. Murtha’s credibility started a massive shift away from this administration's policies. He too was Swiftboated. Another once beloved conservative Senator, Warner comes out against the execution of the war. Do the neocons open the door to debate Senator Warner, hell no? They label him a traitor.

There goes little Joshie again, spouting his "neocon" nonsense while dodging the challenge to tell us exactly what a "neocon" IS. My gosh, I must have asked him two dozen times, and he just squirms away from the question and falls back on his limited and evidently undefined vocabulary.

JOSH---WHAT IS A NEOCON?

He is also regurgitating the same old debunked pap about Wilson. Does this lad NEVER learn? No, Joshie, Wilson did NOT ..."discover(s) the President misrepresented to the American people the facts about Iraqi WMD in his State of the Union message." No, no, NO, Joshe, he did no such thing!

For one thing, neither of Wilson's reports---the factual one he gave the CIA when he was debriefed or the lying one he gave the American public in his NYT piece---dealt with Iraqi WMD. They dealt with, albeit in two widely divergent versions, with a claim that Iraq had tried to buy yellowcake in Niger. Yellowcake is not a WMD.

He actually reported to the CIA that his extensive investigation in Niger came up with exactly the SAME information Bush had referred to. Yep, he reported that although the agents who had sought to buy yellowcake had not admitted to representing Iraq, the Niger officials believed them to be so.

The actual reason Wilson's puny little report was never even sent on to Cheney is because it added absolutely NOTHING to what they already knew, and only supported it.

What you BS Libs have latched onto with such religious fervor is the lying piece Wilson later wrote for the NYT, in which he simply invented a completely different result of his trip. Yes, boys and girls and hysterical Libs, Joe Wilson LIED when he told us what he had learned. He actually learned exactly what he told the CIA, which supported the belief that Iraq had been trying to buy nuclear materiel in Niger. But he LIED in a feeble and transparent effort to try to the President as a liar. And the only 'people' he fooled were the gullible neorads who were salivating over any attack, no matter how weak or easily refuted, on the man they hate more than Sadaam.

The only person who "discredited" Joe Wilson was Joe Wilson. See, lying is like that. When you tell a whopper and you get caught, YOU are the one who discredits you, not the person who caught you.

"Swiftboating" means releasing actual facts to counter lying claims of exaggerated military prowess and bravery. "Swiftboating" is a noble thing, a correction of a lie or a series of lies, which depends on honest and honorable men doing the right thing even at great personal cost, in the name of truth.

Therefore, if Jihad Jack was actually "swiftboated" that means some people took it upon themselves to point out a lie, or a series of lies, which Murtha told. To which I say, good for them!

Josh, you really need new material. But first you need a dictionary.

JOSH---WHAT IS A NEOCON?