From where I sit, just about every post here is aimed at annoying lefties. That's the one common thread in the posts and comments of conservatives at B4B. Whether your thing is taxes or social issues, immigration or religion - you are all united by your hatred of liberals. It's much more apparent than your support for Bush. In fact if you go through the archives, an significant amount of posts are something inane like "Liberals are going to hate this, but the price of corn went down 3% this month."

Once Bush is out of office (733 days), you could just change the blog's name to Blogs against Liberals, or We Hate Lefties and nobody would know the difference.

Forty-one percent (41%) of Americans approve of the way George W. Bush is performing his role as President. Fifty-eight percent (58%) disapprove (see comments on comparing Approval Ratings from different polling firms). Those figures include just 20% who Strongly Approve and 41% who Strongly Disapprove.

Mark, you seemed to leave that part of the report out of your post for some reason... I wonder why that would be...

Anyway, there is something funny about bragging about how a slim majority think that the President is doing "ok"... sounds a little like celebrating mediocrity...

Mark... is it really that hard to find an article that completely supports your vision of the President, instead of one that you have selectively quote in order to achieve your ends?

That should be "... you have to selectively quote..."

Rana,

No, you're either inattentive or new to the blog - anyone who has been here for a while knows that in polling I give large credence to polls of likely voters, while I believe polls of adults aren't really of much use - except in identifying broad trends.

Bush is supported by 51% of likely voters, and 41% of adults...which is, as people who really pay attention can confirm, exactly the difference in support any GOP can expect between a poll of adults and a poll of likely voters (meaning that my rule of thumb is that any time you see a poll of adults, add 10 percentage points to the GOP total in order to get a realistic appraisal of GOP electoral support). The difference is caused, of course, by the fact of all adults including people who get all their news from the nightly network news casts, as well as people who get know news at all and spend their days being deeply concerned about contestants on American Idol and/or how Oprah's latest diet is going.

Extra,

But you do hate it when anything good happens...we know that it gets under your skin and really grates on your nerves to have things happen which might indicate that President Bush and/or the GOP have done something worthy...

Rasmussen Reports also conducts a separate survey asking Likely Voters to rate the President’s performance on a different scale. That survey finds 33% who give the President good or excellent marks, 16% who say he is doing a fair job, and 48% who rate the President’s performance as poor.

Oops! Guess it's not a majority of likely voters anymore. Oh well, it was fun while it lasted!

Bush is the guy who likes the No Child Left Behind thing, right? Is 51% a passing grade? Assuming, as others pointed out, that only select portions of the poll are used.

last week, Bush was celebrated here because he ignored polls, and did what was right. Today, he's celebrated because he's doing well in the polls. Are polls important or not? You can't admire him because he ignores the meaningless polls and also becuse he does well in the all important polls any more than a person could be celebrated both for his fidelity and many seductions. Unless, i suppose, one is merely a cheerleader.

"[Y]ou could just change the blog's name to 'Blogs Against Liberals,' or 'We Hate Lefties' and nobody would know the difference."

Hey, Extra, those are actually pretty catchy blog names. You haven't registered them yet, have you? I'm thinking of starting a blog....

Extra,

But you do hate it when anything good happens...we know that it gets under your skin and really grates on your nerves to have things happen which might indicate that President Bush and/or the GOP have done something worthy...

Posted by: Mark Noonan at January 17, 2007 11:21 AM

Mark, at the threat of inflaming keefer to further violence........

"If you were in front of me right now, you'd lose a few teeth, or have your jaw broken. And there are others here who feel the same way as I do.
Now run along, little Canadian wuss--axis and CG are a-missin' you..."

Posted by: God is Great--Libs I Hate... at January 16, 2007 09:49 PM

......... Anyhow, I'll take the chance and say, if Bush or the GOP had done anything worthy, there would be a lot more support from the liberal posters here, believe me. Having brought Saddam to justice and 'democracy'?? to Iraq would have been wonderful if we didn't have all the grief that followed.

In 20 years Bush will be remembered as fondly as Reagan is now. Remember even Reagan left office with a pretty low approval rating. The American public is fickle and needs things to happen with sitcom speed. Conservatives have vision and prepare for conflicts before they occur. Sometimes that takes time, nerve and the conviction to see things through. Liberals use that against us. Because they consistently lack the strength in character to confront our enemies, liberals employ the media to deplete the AMerican morale and thus obscure their own cowardice. THat is why they hate Bush and Reagan. THey will never understand their conviction and faith.

Anyone knows that you can get any result you want by how you word the polling question (thus two different results on the same polling day by wording questions differently).

I've always wondered what the difference is between "Somewhat approve" and "Somewhat disapprove". IT seems the same question to me; and, when you get down to it....they both mean "fair". Yep, I've always wondered what the difference was. Now I know........10 points in the President's favor.

Anyhow, I'll take the chance and say, if Bush or the GOP had done anything worthy, there would be a lot more support from the liberal posters here, believe me.

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Yah, and youre trying to tell me Bush hasnt done one, single thing that is worthy? Not one thing in six years that libs can agree with? The way you guys carp and haw and whine about EVERYTHING, you expect me to believe you even LOOKED for something positive? Sure, sure.

Having brought Saddam to justice and 'democracy'?? to Iraq would have been wonderful if we didn't have all the grief that followed.

Cant it still be wonderful in spite of the 'grief'??

In answer to your question Bacon, Americans united behind the president in response to his resolute leadership after the 9/11 attacks, and his highly effective military action against the Taliban in Afghanistan. His approval rating was in the 90% range which by definition included most "liberals."

Where he has gone astray since then is in reckless rhetoric (i.e. "bring it on") that has offended even our friends in the world, a catastrophic invasion of Iraq that was unrelated to 9/11, incompetent handling of the Katrina aftermath, and domestic and tax policies that benefit too few.

Well, you certainly have the laundry list, dont you?

I admit Katrina was a mess but Bush wasnt alone, if the press were to fairly attack the other responsible parties then perhaps it could be put in perspective. Bush didnt leave 500 buses parked in downtown New Orleans.

That tax policy is pushing the economy and the markets through the roof, if you dont beleive me, wait for the dems to raise taxes and see what happens. We can discuss economics on another thread perhaps.

If you had been on this site for awhile, you would notice that the same people who supported the Afghan war supported the Iraq war, its how Bush got so much support from the public and the dems for the invasion of Iraq.

Of course now the dems are saying they were 'tricked', which is code for "I want to change my mind now that its not popular". The Windsock Party©, if you will. They would be saying the same thing about Afghanistan if the slog had proven as difficult; liberals are always supporting the previous war, and they do so by counting bodies; we lost this many in Iraq compared to this many in Afghanistan. One war is good, one war is bad, based on the corpse-count.

Also, all our 'friends' who didnt appreciate Bush's rhetoric are also crying about the hanging of Saddam, saying it wasnt fair, nice or gentle. That tells me all I need to know about them.

Like I said, libs cant find it in themselves to approve of anything Bush does, even if they did it would come with a "But" caveat.

Whether your thing is taxes or social issues, immigration or religion - you are all united by your hatred of liberals. It's much more apparent than your support for Bush.

C'mon, extra, I'm the only one here who has openly expressed hatred of liberals. If Mark or Matt hated you idiots, they'd have banned you long ago.

CO, you have no worries--I wouldn't risk breaking my hand on trash...

Mark: Rana Quijotesca is actually Georgia Frawg.

Hey Rana:
Why did you change your name from Georgia Frawg to Rana Quijotesca? It seems that your usual inaccurate, yet thought out statements have changed with your name. Is this the crazy wackjob persona you'll go with when wanting to say stuff that makes absolutely sense.

I never thought I'd say this, but go back to Georgia Frawg.

Wawilliyo

Rana Quijotesca translates as "Quixotic Frog." I guess Frawg left Georgia and is chasing windmills.

Mark,

Nice job of selective quotation. Now let’s quote you:

"The really cool thing about it is that President Bush got 51% of the vote in 2004...meaning that among likely voters (i.e., those who likely voted in 2004 and will vote again in 2008), President Bush's support is right where it was more than two years ago"

They key here is likely voters. What is the criteria of likely voters? Who determines if they are likely voters, Republican Pollsters? Wouldn't it make more sense to use the 2006 election data?
No, it wouldn't because the Democrats took over both Chambers of Congress. Despite not having a real platform according to many of you. The MAJOR reason for this was disapprove of Bush and the corruption of Republicans. Save your breath, because I know there are some corrupt Dems too. I think someone might have even wrote a book about it?!?

Also, if Bush's support is the same as in 2004, why are so many of the Neo-Cons, Kristol, Perle, Peggy Noonan (any relation to you?) including others, jumping like rats from a sinking ship? Just curious.

But since we are throwing out polls from the Rasmussen website I will follow in suit:

"The Discover Small Business Watch survey found that 57 percent of consumers are willing to pay a higher price at small businesses that meet minimum wage regulations."

Hmm, the majority of the America public supports paying a real wage, say it isn't so.

"More than three-quarters (76 percent) of U.S. workers report to a Caucasian boss and just one-third (34 percent) state their boss is a woman, according to a new Hudson survey. At the same time, less than half (43 percent) of employees indicate that there is racial, ethnic and gender diversity on their company's executive team."

Finally, we can do away with affirmative action and feminism.

"Two-out-of-three Americans (66%) believe that “embryonic stem cell research" is at least somewhat likely to lead to cures to previously incurable diseases. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of 1,000 adults found that this figure includes 72% of Democrats, 59% of Republicans, and 69% of those not affiliated with either major political party."

President Bush doesn't need to listen to polls, being that he is in touch with the vast majority of Americans.

Let the Liberals stick that in their pipe and smoke it!

Peace.

wawilliyo-

I just thought that it was a time to change... I had "Georgia Frawg" for a little more than a year and decided that I was bored of it... My new name, which I have used for a while as an internet moniker, came from a) the fact that Frogs are my favorite animal (a fact that has nothing to do with France), b) Don Quixote is one of my favorite books, and c) I just finished studying Spanish. Now, voting anything other than Republican in Georgia (outside of Atlanta) is kind of like "chasing windmills", so that is kind of apt (I didn't think of that before, thanks Smegma).

It does kind of seem that the whole point of this post was to pounce on the first poll that Mark could find that was at least somewhat supportive of Bush as President...

I'll admit, my earlier comment was a bit... sophomoric... in my defense, I had just finished two hours of Calculus homework (math is not my strong suit)...

Seriously though, I hate it when people use polls as some sort of justification for action... If 99% of Americans wanted all of our troops home tomorrow, that doesn't mean that that is the right thing to do. Conversely, just because 51% of likely voters think that Bush is doing "Ok" or better at being President, it isn't necessarily the truth...

Don Quixote

People mock my name so maybe I shouldn't point out oddities of names. However, I think it fair to point out to other B4B readers the implications of your name.

The book "Don Quixote" is about an man, insane, who thinks he is a knight doing good deeds. He rides his steed into battle against dragons to fight evil and do great deeds. In actuality, Don Quixote is a public fool, riding to attack windmills he mistakes for dragons.

I'm not so sure it is good for you, a liberal regularly fighting the good fight on this blog, to take the name of a delusional fool fighting over non-reality. It might set you up for some easy shots.

Maybe you want to take a name from another great book. Moby Dick? There's nothing in that name for people to mock. ;-)

Smegma-

Actually, I have read Don Quixote, hence it being one of my favorite books. It is the genesis of one of my favorite words, "quixotic", which, coincidentally (but not really), is the english translation of my pseudonym.

The definition of "quixotic" is "idealistic to the point of impracticality." While I don't question my idealism; I don't necessarily find myself to be impractical. It's more of a joke that I have with myself about the futility of voting anything but Republican in Georgia (outside of Atlanta, of course).

Just so you know, I do tend to lie on my left side when it comes to social issues (except for abortion, about which I am still undecided), I am pretty far to the right on economic and defense issues, though I lack the idealism of many of the hawks out there (according to the Political Compass test, I am around (2, -3)). Don't take my disapproval of Bush as making me a token "liberal".

eh that link didn't work out, it is www.politicalcompass.org...

If Mark or Matt hated you idiots, they'd have banned you long ago.

HAHAHA Then what would they do!? It's not like they discuss policy on here, unless you count cheerleading.

This has to be a milestone: A new poll has found that the American people dislike President Bush more than they dislike ... Dick Cheney. The poll — by Fox News, of all people — finds that President Bush's unfavorable rating is 58%, while Cheney's unpopularity rating is five points lower at 53%. Bush can, however, still take some small solace from the fact that his approval rating is one point higher than Cheney's; the President's is 38%, while the VP's is 37%.

Meanwhile, here are a couple of other numbers that are striking for a Fox poll: Only 39% of Americans view the GOP favorably, and 49% view them unfavorably. Meanwhile, a majority of respondents — 51% — have a favorable view of Dems, compared to only 35% who have an unfavorable view of what Fox likes to call the "Democrat Party."

This has to be a milestone: A new poll has found that the American people dislike President Bush more than they dislike ... Dick Cheney. The poll — by Fox News, of all people — finds that President Bush's unfavorable rating is 58%, while Cheney's unpopularity rating is five points lower at 53%. Bush can, however, still take some small solace from the fact that his approval rating is one point higher than Cheney's; the President's is 38%, while the VP's is 37%.

Meanwhile, here are a couple of other numbers that are striking for a Fox poll: Only 39% of Americans view the GOP favorably, and 49% view them unfavorably. Meanwhile, a majority of respondents — 51% — have a favorable view of Dems, compared to only 35% who have an unfavorable view of what Fox likes to call the "Democrat Party."