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There's nothing in the world worse that a big-eared crook in Washington, and that Barak Hussein Obama-sama sure has some big ears...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 06:50 AM

There's nothing in the world worse that a big-eared crook in Washington, and that Barak Hussein Obama-sama sure has some big ears...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie at December 27, 2006 06:50 AM


Really, there's nothing in the world worse? I'm sure if you give it just a little bit of thought you could come up something much more sinister, more deadly, living right there in Washington. I know everyone else could.

Posted by: Canadian Observer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 09:52 AM

Toadie; observant and poignant as always.

I would stoop to your level and make a crack about a big eared crook in the Oval Office, but then we’d all know where that goes…

People are just fishing for something to attack Obama on because they realize they can't get him on things that matter, like the issues and his values; many of which he shares with conservatives.

And if you didn't notice, this is absolutely a non-story. Only because some are afraid of a political revolution where a popular and intelligent candidate gets attention that isn't on their side does this even get mentioned.

Posted by: Anillo at December 27, 2006 10:18 AM

Anillo,

I wouldn't get to high on Obama, if I were you...he's a fairly typical Chicago pol, and that means he's got some skeletons in the closet (for more details on this, please check out the soon-to-be-released "Caucus of Corruption", by Matt Margolis and Mark Noonan)...but his biggest handicaps are the fact that he's very limited in experience and that his policy prescriptions are just standard leftwing talking points dressed up as convictions. If he were to run, and even if there were no scandals in his backtground, we'd beat him with any of the putative Republican candidates.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 11:37 AM

Really, there's nothing in the world worse? I'm sure if you give it just a little bit of thought you could come up something much more sinister, more deadly, living right there in Washington. I know everyone else could.

I agree, CO, a liberal Canadian with no sense of humor is much worse.

Can't you just picture this scenario? Obama gets the Dem presidential nomination, and as he's shaking hands with his GOP opponent at the start of the first presidential debate, his opponent say, "geez, your ears really are BIG!" Heh, heh.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 01:21 PM

Spook

If any Presidential contender opened a debate with "My opponent looks goofy" it would be the end of that campaign.

This nation needs ideas, energy and follow through.

Is that Obama? I don't know. Is that McCain? Maybe. Is that at least ONE of the dozens of people with nominee potential? Lord, I hope so.

But comments on ears and middle names should stay on the schoolyard.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 01:29 PM

Come on, Major, where's your sense of humor? Especially coming from someone whose screen name means copious amounts of this. Are you Canadian too? Liberal cartoonists have depicted GW as a cross between a monkey and a donkey for over 6 years, and most of us on the right have just bitten our tongues. If Obama can't handle a little joshing about the size of his ears, he shouldn't even be on the national stage much less considering a run for President.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 02:51 PM

Sppok

As you point out, my screen name tells the tale on my sense of humor. And I have no problem with jokes about Obama's ears, middle name, or anything.

It's just that I'm seeing the name "Hussein" popping up, not in humor, but in making his name sound evil.

And you are right, you were clearly joking in your debate joke, but I'll bet a lot of people would consider that a reasonable opening line, a "you're no Jack Kennedy" or "There you go again" moment.

But hey, you caught me taking myself too seriously, so thanks for knocking me down a peg. Good work. ;-)

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 04:32 PM

btw, calling me "Canadian" is completely un-called-for. You should be banned, sir!

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 04:33 PM

"There you go again", Major. I didn't call you Canadian; I asked (jokingly) if you were Canadian. You really do need to find a new screen name, though.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 05:24 PM

Just like in the most recent post about Murtha... chalk this in the "no shit" column... Trying to find a crook in Washington is like trying to find a black guy in the NAACP...

Posted by: Georgia Frawg [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 06:06 PM

Spook

I've worked too hard for the rank I hold to change my screen name to Capt. Smegma or Lt. Smegma.

lol

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 06:19 PM

It's hard to believe that we can believe anyone that openly opposes the "Three Strike Law" yet as he states on his website "Senator Obama is a strong proponent of tougher measures to fight crime, in particular the growing problem of methamphetamines, which has ravaged many communities in Illinois. He has also advocated providing more resources to local law enforcement officers."

Either he isn't serious about fighting crime or it's a bait-n-switch job. So, which is it?

If he continues to promote and posture as a tough guy on crime, he'll be met head-on with the challenges of defending issues such as these.

Someone will need to pose this question: So, Senator Obama, if your child was molested by a three time offender, would you push for the maximum sentence, or since it was their first time as a child molester, would you settle for a lessor sentence?

I think I know the answer. I'm sure he's got the NIMBY attitude.


Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 07:36 PM

But comments on ears and middle names should stay on the schoolyard.

With idiot libs, such as yourself, who think uncalled for is a hyphenated word, and idiot libs, such as Canadian Observer, who rarely goes anywhere without his two boyfriends, hanging around here, it is a schoolyard. If you don't like it, skip recess.

Spook,

TNFHN BJTIJ TGBWP SJUFT OBDL...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 08:31 PM

Spook,

PCBNB TVSFI BTTPN FCJHF BST...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 08:34 PM

keefer,

That's crude (but funny), and yes he does.

Posted by: Retired Spook [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 10:44 PM

Sounds like another Republican't plant (like Monica Lewinski was) to me!

Posted by: Stanley Rosenthal [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 27, 2006 11:46 PM

Wow, Spook

Here we were having an enjoyable conversation and in comes a run-on sentence machine correcting syntax and calling me an idiot lib.

He seems to be your friend, so I ask you, did I write anything that makes me an idiot lib? Is this indicative of your friends? I hope not, as I'd enjoyed our banter.

I guy like that wouldn't last a minute in the military, so I guess it was just the rantings of a lunatic, right?

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 03:10 AM

Spook (and Ima)

I apologize wholeheartedly for my previous post. Again, I got too serious and didn't realize that Ima was being funny by being a caricature of a bomb-throwing insane uber-conservative.

Ha, ha, the joke was on me.

Keep up the good work, Ima! By showing such an obviously fake extreme, you bring humor to what may be a dry conversation.

I'm just not used to people questioning my beliefs, give my decades of service in the military. I've got to lighten up.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 03:14 AM

Major,

I kinda doubt you served a minute in the military, unless you were one of those dopers in 'Nam. Decades of dreaming, IMHO.

Anyone who would name themself after the crust that accumulates under the foreskin must be a little burned-out. And I'm no fake extremist--I can't stand you libs. You're some of the phoniest people on earth, and you make me sick. Now have yourself a nice day, kook...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 04:55 AM

navydad:

"Senator Obama is a strong proponent of tougher measures to fight crime, in particular the growing problem of methamphetamines, which has ravaged many communities in Illinois. He has also advocated providing more resources to local law enforcement officers."

In short: he's against crime. Wow! That's a major policy statement! I mean, every other politician is FOR crime. What boldness! That sure makes him an instant Presidential contender.

Next on his agenda: "He likes puppies and daffodils."


Posted by: Hermie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 08:29 AM

Ima

My name is a play off my real name. Of course, I wouldn't choose it myself; it was put upon me back in boot and it eventually just became a part of me. This happens often with derogatory names yelled at you repeatedly throughout boot camp, as people keep names like Boondoggle all the time.

Clearly it is YOU who have no military experience, and yet you act as if you know everything. You don't know shit, clearly.

Spook, is this really your friend? I saw those coded messages and your response to "keefer" (as I have seen Ima referred to in other posts). Is this guy really who you hang out with?

I'd thought better, as we had a very humorous thread going, with all the intelligence Ima lacks. Please tell me this guy doesn't speak in a voice with which you agree, Spook.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 02:15 PM

also...

For your edification, Ima, I served in the first Gulf War, not Vietnam. I would have been proud to serve there, but I was a bit too young.

I've also served in Germany, Korea and Kansas.

Where have you served your country, Ima Pussy Who's All Talk?

I served with honor, valor and distinction, as my record shows. Those ribbons on my dress uniform aren't for blog postings, candyass. You don't get to be a mojor by punching the clock, you know, I earned. What have you ever earned of merit, Ima Stuck For An Answer?

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 02:24 PM

Now, now, Major asshat, don't get all angry. Besides, a lot of the Majors I encountered in my 20 years of honorable service got where they were by kissing the Colonel's and General's asses.

Whose ass did you kiss, Major Malfunction? And what did you protect us from in Kansas--sunflowers?

For the record, Major Dumbarse, I served two tours in Japan, one in England, and two stateside tours--Arizona and Ft. Meade, MD. I spent most of my career in the intelligence field, and worked for a few kiss-ass Majors. I was enlisted, which means I did the heavy lifting, while you kiss-ass Majors took the credit. Don't tell me how you earned anything, jerk.

Now have yourself a nice day, Major Penis-crust...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 04:31 PM

Now, now, Major asshat, don't get all angry. Besides, a lot of the Majors I encountered in my 20 years of honorable service got where they were by kissing the Colonel's and General's asses.

Whose ass did you kiss, Major Malfunction? And what did you protect us from in Kansas--sunflowers?

For the record, Major Dumbarse, I served two tours in Japan, one in England, and two stateside tours--Arizona and Ft. Meade, MD. I spent most of my career in the intelligence field, and worked for a few kiss-ass Majors. I was enlisted, which means I did the heavy lifting, while you kiss-ass Majors took the credit. Don't tell me how you earned anything, jerk.

Now have yourself a nice day, Major Penis-crust...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 04:31 PM

Ima

You've got issues, son. Very deep issues.

Spook, is the REALLY your friend? Is this what this particular blog is all about?

An ad hominem attack on the officer class of the finest military ever, saying I'm somehow unworthy because I am a Major?

And all this vitriol was because, why? Because I described opening a Presidential debate with a joke about the opponent's ears childish? THAT is what made me "an idiot lib" and a "doper in Vietnam" (nice tribute to all those that served) and even if I am indeed in the military, I must be some ass-kisser because all officers are ass kissers.

Mark, is this the kind of blog you are proud of or did Ima cross the line...say at the get-go?

Oh, and Ima, I protected us in Kansas against the same things you did in Arizona and Ft. Meade, MD. There is a lot more to a military than the front lines, though I did serve at that front line during the first Gulf War.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 04:51 PM

Oh, wait, Major dipstick, I get it--you served in Kansas. Just how many years did you do in Leavenworth, and what was your crime?

Spook, for the record, not all officers I knew were arses; I knew and worked for many who appreciated us enlisted folk. Most of the junior officers, O-4's and below, were dorks, while the O-5's and above had "made their bones" and were really good people. I'm afraid this Major Pecker-slime is in the buttmunch category. But I won't drag you into this; the guy thinks you're a friend.

And oh, btw--Obama still has big ears. Just ask MoDo...

Posted by: Ima White Christian Toadie [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 04:55 PM

I see...you conclude I am all these bad things because of the "ears" comment. I'm pretty much the enemy in your book.

Sppok, Mark, one of you make sense of this for me? Does this guy speak words with which you agree?

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 05:33 PM

Looks like no one wants in this fight, but the "ears" comments were pretty funny!

Hey Smeg, you may want to change your name to Major Foreskin, or Major Analeeze or something different.

You're just too big a target at this point.

Maybe start all over with Toadie and introduce yourself as Private Parts or something to that affect.

Just a thought...I know...I know, just stay out of it Navydad. LOL

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 06:21 PM

Navydad

Thanks for the advice.

Look, i didn't choose my screen name to be a lightning rod. In boot this name was meant to shame me, but I worked so hard, did so well, even with the name I got respect.

Soon, it became "Why can't you keep your gear as good as Smegma?" It was a point of pride that I carried ever since, and it is that determination, not ass kissing, that has gained my my hard-earned rank.

But even if my name brings on a joke --- and I invite those --- I make a fairly apolitical comment and I am branded an "idiot lib" and my military credentials are questioned and then mocked.

I appreciate that folks need to steer clear of this, but the people who run this blog, like Mark, should really take a stand on such an attack from nowhere. Is this one of THOSE blogs, or is this a place where ideas are discussed.

Heck, this isn't even a significant issue being discussed, Obama's big ears, for heavens sake! If this is the attack for such an innocuous issue, how are real ideas to be discussed on actual issues?

As for Spook, I guess I'm just overreacting. I just can't imagine as reasoned and humorous and intelligent a person as Spook has been so far finding common ground with a guy that attacks for no reason.

I'm just wondering what kind of blog this is...

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 06:51 PM

"...I appreciate that folks need to steer clear of this, but the people who run this blog, like Mark, should really take a stand on such an attack from nowhere. Is this one of THOSE blogs, or is this a place where ideas are discussed.

Heck, this isn't even a significant issue being discussed, Obama's big ears, for heavens sake! If this is the attack for such an innocuous issue, how are real ideas to be discussed on actual issues?"


Having been a frequent visitor and poster to this board over the past several years, I am sorry to inform you that your impression is quite correct. This IS one of those forums - where attempts at honest discussion often gets blown away by personal and incendiary attacks. It wasn't always like this, but over the past year or so, has gradually descended into the sorry state of debate that you've encountered on this post topic alone. It's the biggest reason why I rarely comment any more - too many uninspiring and uneducated folks apparently like to come here to take potshots at people who are attempting to reasonably discuss issues of the day.

The lack of civility or adherance to a set of common rules of respect leads to a "drying up" of those who would otherwise offer opinions...

Good luck, though. I thank you for your years of service (however they may have been performed), and give you great credit that you wear your monniker with pride...

Posted by: babyboomer aka dbogdan [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 07:09 PM

Smeg & Boomer,

Take a look at some of the other blogs like Daliy Puke, or Huffingpot Post and you'll see that actually the only intelligible dialog is here at B4B. The others are run by Areola H. and the likes where all they do is beat up on our President. and our Military. If you consider that dialog, go back...please.

Now and then we get carried away and it is fun to unload when some liberal idiot, which we are all fed up with, drops by for a quickie and can't handle the heat.

So take a look at some of the off-season posts by Mark, Matt and Leo and you'll see that this time of year, things are a bit slow, so it's time to have a little fun.....so get over it!

If you want to grow up some day and become a conservative, grow a thicker skin and a backbone.

I'm sure Mark & Matt are delighted to have you post here though.

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 07:24 PM

Navydad

Somehow, I thought the fact I've been a registered Republican my entire adult life might qualify me as having "grown up and become a conservative."

No? How about my 25 years in the N.R.A., does that mean anything?

That I voted for both Bushes, all four times they ran for President, for Dole, and for Reagan twice is meaningless.

You see, I made a call for reasoned debate, which is plenty for keefer to define be as a lib and to question my service.

All I ask of Mark is this: is this what you considers acceptable dialog for your blog? Is there no rebuke for keefer, or is there to be implicit praise?

Your answers define your blog...

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 07:37 PM

Major,

I had no idea that a rough-and-tough military man could be so sensitive. My dig at Obama-sama's big ears are because of him, and the fact that he put MoDo "on notice" about comments she made, in a column, about his big ears. For gosh sakes, this man may become President--he needs to toughen up and not worry about what people think about his big ears. As you would probably put it, he needs to get "squared away."

Now excuse me whilst I go and change my screenname; I don't want any more crybaby tears...

Posted by: Obama-sama has Big Ears [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 07:54 PM

keefer

My sensitivity is not to jokes about politicians. My sensitivity is to blindsiding attacks on my character. My sensitivity regards whether a blog values ideas over attacks.

Your screen name is meaningless so you may as well leave it as is. I could care less about Barack Obama's ears. An "I was wrong to attack you and I'll try to keep the level of my discourse higher in the future" would have substance and be a manly thing to do.

And Mark, something along the lines of "Keefer made outrageous and ridiculous remarks for no reason and this does not represent the ideals for this blog" would speak volumes. Right now, your silence is deafening.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 08:08 PM

No problems...but I would consider changing thy name.

When I did my stint with the DOE, we used the term as an insult and although I'm perfectly clear as to why you feel the need to use it, it's like setting yourself up for a disasterous blog future.

BTW, Toadie is one of the quickest wits I've seen and although I can't speak for him, I'm sure that his sarcasm wasn't meant to be that personal. He despises liberal idiots as much, even more than I do. He just has less patience...no disrespect Toad! Maybe it's an age thing.

Just a note. A while back I went to a liberal blog to see if there was a difference between conservative and lib dialog, and low and behold, it was like night and day. All the libs do is beat up on anyone that doesn't agree with them. But not by argument that is substantiated with fact or reason, quite the contrary, it was all Bush is a liar, Cheney sucks, Rumsfeld that, but they never would address some of the key issues of our time. It was all vitriol and third hand garbage and when anyone would put factual evidence in front of their face, they'd call it lies.

I'm 52 years old now and was scared shi#less to be drafted when I graduated from high school and I missed the draft by one number. But now that I look back, I would have gone...no matter what. I had no intentions of letting my country down by running off to Canada or anywhere else for that matter. So when I had the chance to serve my country in other ways, I did, by building weapons that were state of the art and putting my heart into the protection of this great country. You can't imagine how many times I've been called murderer when a bleedin heart lib found out what I did for a living.

I can remember my buddies coming home from Nam and being spat on and cursed at as baby killers, well, those memories are etched in my mind, that's for damn sure, probably like they are your's, and I swore that I would never allow this to happen in my presence and that I would stand behind the President, no matter who he was.
I even supported Clinton during the Kosovo conflict even though I'm 50% Serbian. I know, kick me Toad.

Now, the point that I'm getting at is that every now and then, all of us are confronted in one fashion or another with and uncomfortable situation, such as how to make up with a fellow blogger, so, I recommend you and Toadie touch peepees and let bygones be bygones...but only if you want to.

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 08:29 PM

Navydad

I would surely shake a man's hand, were it extended to me.

I don't know if keefer calling me a crybaby is and apology in your book, but it don't fly with a military man.

When I'm wrong, I look a man in the eye, apologize and extend my hand. You can't look in the eye or shake hands in writing, so an honest apology is all that is required.

Is keefer going to man up and apologize for attacking me before even trying to determine my background? I don't know, but I'm always ready to shake an outstretched hand.

Posted by: Major Smegma [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 08:35 PM

Hope y'all can settle your differences.

keefer, when you say:-

"I spent most of my career in the intelligence field," I have to ask if you are fooling with us again.

Posted by: Canadian Observer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 09:02 PM

As you've said Keefer, don't respond...he's trying to get on your good side so he can tell his lib buddies that he pulled you over to the dark side.

Either that or he really dosen't know what "intelligence" is??? Either way, don't respond.

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 09:14 PM

BTW, Toadie is one of the quickest wits I've seen and although I can't speak for him, I'm sure that his sarcasm wasn't meant to be that personal. He despises liberal idiots as much, even more than I do. He just has less patience...no disrespect Toad! Maybe it's an age thing...

navydad, you've got me pegged pretty well. I have no patience when it comes to idiot, sensitive libbies. Now, about this "age thing:" I don't understand what you mean; you only have me by two years. I turned 18 as they were abolishing the draft.

I recommend you and Toadie touch peepees and let bygones be bygones...but only if you want to.

No way, man--I ain't gettin' smegma on my hand!!!

Look, Major, if I offended your sensitive ass, I'm sorry. But when you make what I perceive a stupid comment, I'm gonna get all sarcastic on yer arse. That's as close as an apology you're gonna get from me, because you called me a candyass.

And did you say you were on the front lines, or in front of the line at the mess hall? lol

Posted by: Obama-sama has Big Ears of Corn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 09:23 PM

keefer, when you say:-

"I spent most of my career in the intelligence field," I have to ask if you are fooling with us again.

I can't tell you, CO/axass/Canuckgay--I'd have to shoot you. On second thought, maybe I'll tell you. Not.

You realize that every time I mention my military career, you go all redundant with the same silliness. CO, I know you think you mean well, but I'm really getting tired of you. Don't they have any cool Canadian blogs, where you can discuss Canadian things like hockey, trout fishin', and lumberjackin'? Why don't you and your buddies join the Royal Canadian Mountmes?


Posted by: Obama-sama has Big Ears of Corn [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 09:33 PM

I'm laughin so hard from your last repsonse to CO, I can barely type.


Draft actually ended in 1973. May be wrong, it's been a looonnng time. A year after high school for me. Most of my brother's friends that were drafted and went to VN and stayed alive to come back didn't come back to a hero's welcome, but more like a convict just released from prison.

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 09:50 PM

> Draft actually ended in 1973. May be wrong, it's been a looonnng time. A year after high school for me.

We're the same age. And that part of your memory you've still got correct my friend. :-) The draft ended the year before I would've been eligible as I recall events.

Posted by: Stanley Rosenthal [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 10:46 PM

"I'm laughin so hard from your last repsonse to CO, I can barely type"


I have to agree, navydad. Every now & then one of keefer's putdowns can be quite humourous. He could do stand-up, possibly in the Don Rickles style.

Posted by: Canadian Observer [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 28, 2006 11:13 PM

CO

You tend to baffle one's mind!

One minute, you're putting down someone for being conservative and the next, you're laughin and having a good ole time.

I think it's time for you to quit straddling the fence and become a conservative....like your government did.

Well, now that I think about it, it's kinda tough to reverse a lobotomy :)

Posted by: navydad [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 29, 2006 09:36 AM

> Well, now that I think about it, it's kinda tough to reverse a lobotomy :)

Come January 4th., we'll have a chance to try to reverse our national lobotomy (the attempted dumbing down of America by ya'll Republican'ts. Not to mention stop the bleeding of your economic policies (the ripping off of America.))

Posted by: Stanley Rosenthal [TypeKey Profile Page] at December 29, 2006 11:35 PM

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