Acorn likes to say that these are "rogue" workers...and yet somehow there are 10 states investigating fraud on the part of ACORN canvasers.

The most egregious example of Dem fraud may be New Mexico. You remember New Mexico which barely went for Jon Cary, and elected Richardson as Gov.

Well it turns out as many as 20% of regsistered voters may be illegal. 200,000 voter registration cards were returned for false addresses and as many as 30,000 illegals who obtained obtained drivers licenses may also have registered to vote. All of this under Democrat direction.

Any comments moonbats??

Illegals, the dead, non-existent people, multiple personalities...the dems seem to have a huge constituency. Too bad for them that actual, living breathing, sane American citizens are appalled by the democratic party in its current form.

Anyone want to make bets on how many RNC offices will be shot-up or vandalized on election day? The over/under stands at six.

In which state Bongos or are you betting nation wide? :)

Seriously though as I've stated before the current system is EASY to cast fake votes. Anything we can do to improve the voting system needs to be done. From Vote ID's to new voting machines that leave paper trails, and better counting procedures, anything and everything should be done to ensure the votes are on the up and up and every vote is counted, including absentee votes.

The party which whines the most about so-called voter fraud has been conspicuously absent in efforts to clean up our voting system since 2004, the last time they got to get all huffy about what they claimed were voting irregularities.

If the Dems are so wrought up over "voter fraud" where were they in the two years between elections?

Anyone remember any voting reforms put forth by any Dems? Any where? Any time? We can make this easy and allow local efforts.

Anyone got any examples of Dem actions against Diabolical Diebold? Any efforts to correct any of the problems they claim exist?

Nope---for two reasons. The first is that THESE reasons are inventions of the Dems. And the second is that the Dems need and love these excuses.

If we were to clean up the actual, real, election/voting problems, the Dems would not only lose votes, they would lose the ability to whine about the outcome.

No, they need the ability to convince their drooling groupies that, once again, they got screwed by the evil conservatives, as much as they need the votes of the dead, the illegal, the felons, and they multiple voters.

Gozer,

I'm an election worker (my wife is our Township Clerk and she recruits me to work elections when she's not on the ballot, like this year).

In Michigan, EVERY absentee ballot is counted as long as it is received in the Clerk's Office by the close of the polls (8:00 pm). I can't speak for other states, but in Michigan there isn't an issue of uncounted absentee ballots, unless the Clerk is a real criminal and is not distributing the absentee ballots to the precincts.

I may have mentioned this before to you, but we often have voters come up and offer photo ID. They are shocked when we tell them it is not needed. Simply requiring a photo ID would clear up most of the individual voter fraud.

We use electonic tabulators to count the votes, but keep the paper ballot so their is a paper trail.

The only real voter fraud in Michigan in recent years has been in Detroit where the City Clerk sent out "election workers" to nursing homes with absentee ballots to "assist" the elderly voters. Yea, right. There are also reports of thousands of absentee ballots that were sent out, but that had not been requested, and that had been "pre-voted" for Democrat candidates. The FBI has had her under investigation. Needless to say, the Detroit City Clerk was (she got defeated in the 2005 election) a DEMOCRAT.

*Chuckles*

I hear ya A-10 and I will constantly refer to you as a source for information whenever I see voter fraud stuff. I know here in California there is no requirement to show an ID to vote and it isn't hard to get the list of registered voters (along with phone numbers and addresses!) in the area. Any volunteer can get access to these things and easily use them to vote in every single district in an area. Heck, in Barstow there are at least 15 districts, that's 14 extra votes per person!

Simple and basic voter fraud prevention folks, simple and basic.

All we hafta do is let Jimmah Carter monitor the elections, and all will be fine.

I hear 12 Smart cards went missing in Memphis, the home of the fake conservative, Harold Ford. Hmmmmm...

I h8str8people,

what, is there a link to this sight from your NAMBLA home page? shouldn't you be in church "educating" some alter boys?

kudos to you sheep for keeping this site going, I figure since you sheep always keep me so amused that I would post something...this way you can say at least 10 people have visited here today...

voter fraud eh? one quote sums it up:
"It's all over but the counting. And we'll take care of the counting"-Peter King(S)

worthless sheep

Opuss, get a life bra! Your probably the male escort that was sleeping with the preacher man and doing meth. Oh by the way, I'm counting the days till I'm laughing at you......5.....4....3...2..1! Bwahahahaahahaaaa!

The Liberals and the Democrats are complete voter FRAUDSTERS...

From getting the dead to vote to 1968 in Chicago..

They are the destroyers of Democracy...

They are Vile Savages and filthy liars...

‘bra’ what is that the new NABMLA greeting or something or are you trying to be hip w/ the kiddies?
a sheep who can count? wow, but I don't get it, how is 5 days of counting somehow done in 15 minutes?
oh yeah, because you're an idiot.
and I do apologize, didn't realize you and Ih8st8 had this whole giving and receiving thing going on...do you two take turns playing alter boy and priest?
should we leave you two idiot sheep alone for a while?

hey look, one more, this sites up to what, 12 people...

*Chuckles*

Back to the topic, I'm not sure what good those smart cards are to anyone. Aren't they reset with every voter? I'm not sure but it should be addressed and not just brushed over, though I don't doubt someone is paying attention to it.

Gozer,

Let me do a little research on the "smart-card" and I'll get back to ya.

gozer,

According to the VerifiedVoting.org Web site:

When the voter enters the precinct, he or she is given a "smart-card" by a poll worker after confirming the voter is registered.

A "smart-card" is a card the size and shape of a credit-card which contains a computer chip, some memory and basic data such as the voter's voting language and political party.

The voter then takes the smart-card to a voting machine and inserts the smart-card into the machine to allow voting. After using the touchscreen to vote, 1) the record of the vote is directly recorded electronically to multiple, internal flash memory cards and 2) the voter's smart-card is reset to ensure that it can only be used to vote once.

The smart-card pops out of the machine with a loud "click" and the voter returns it to a poll worker.

If this information is correct, and Tennessee is using this technology, it seems that the "Smart-Cards" would not be able to be used again.

According to Tennessee Election Coordinator Brook Thompson: "even if the cards aren't recovered by officials there is no danger of fraud because they can't be used again."

"The cards are programmed such that once you use them, they cannot be reused until they are reactivated by the Election Commission," Thompson said.

So, unless someone in the Election Commission was in on the theft and was attempting to commit voter fraud (highly unlikely due to the high visibility of this theft), I don't think there is anything to worry about.

It is funny that this would happen in Harold Ford's hometown. And it was reported to the Election Commission by the Tennessee Republican Party chairman.

In which state Bongos or are you betting nation wide? :)

I live in a liberal state, so I would have to say nationwide. The libs here are good at throwing red paint on recruiting offices, but they are so scared of guns that they once tried to outlaw super-soakers. No joke.

Bongos, I'm in California. Super Soakers are outlawed here. Especially the really big ones I bought over in Las Vegas before they were stop being made. :)

Yah Gozer, the only super soakers we have in gool ol sunny kaleefornia are Opuss and his male escort service. Opuss, were you that guy I bitchslapped the other day for looking at my 7 yr. son? No? A strong relation maybe? Bwahahahaahahaaahahahaaa! Maybe I won't wait 5 more days or is it 4(Sheep scratches head, while laughing at Opuss)!

A-10

The concern about the smart cards is valid. It seems that Ford's Aunt Ophelia (Democrat) has already been involved in vote fraud to the point that her last election to fill the seat of her brother, Fords dad, was voided by the Tennessee senate after and invesigation revealed that 12 of her 13 vote margin were fraudlent. Further investigation revealed that the dead, ineligible felons, and out of state voters participated in her re-election. And that the person authorized to certify the ballots was in NYC at the time of the election, and his/her position was taken by a relative who was not authorized to do so.

The Tennessee Bureau of Investigation investigated aspects of the election, and District Attorney Bill Gibbons obtained 37 indictments, 35 of which are felonies, against three Shelby County poll workers for alleged fraud.

Vote fraud...its a Democrat thing.

BTW: Ophelia is on the ballot again, as is her nephew Harold Ford Jr.

And even with all the massive Dems cheating, they still can't win. There should be a law that prohibits whiners from voting. The Dems have disenfranchised millions of hard-working, gun toting Rethuglicans by their tricks. And even still, they can't win. No one in America supports the Democrats. That's why they have to cheat and lie. Thank God Dubya's support was so massive that even with all the Dem's tricks, our Commandeer-in-Chief was re-appointed, I mean re-elected as president. He should be safe again in 2008.

What is so hard about counting votes? What is so difficult in getting standardized regulations? Why can't everyone have a paper trail to prove their vote was counted and in case of a dispute verification?

I'll tell you what's wrong. Republicans know they CAN'T win with fair elections.

phnxbmed,

I won't disagree. But based on the limited research I did on the technology, it doesn't seem to be possible to use the smart cards to vote again.

That being said, there are plenty of other ways to commit voter fraud.

Was "Aunties" voter fraud antics before or after Tennessee started requiring photo ID to vote?

a-10

The vote cards can be used again. They just need to be reset. Who is to say that those who have stolen these cards don't have access to the equipment needed to reset the cards.

Additionally, these cards have no photos on them.

phnxbmed,

You may be right. But it really makes no sense. Plus, getting access to the equipment to reset the card cannot be easy. My wife is a Township Clerk and is responsible for the election. All of her election equipment is locked in a walk-in safe until tomorrow morning. Getting access to the equipment to reset the card would require someone in the Clerk's office in on the voter fraud.

Tennessee has a photo ID requirement. So to vote again, they need to show up with a fake ID to vote. Having a "reset" smart card is worthless, as the poll worker will be giving them another one. The only value in having a second smart card is to vote twice during the same voting session. Hopefully, the poll workers will be on the lookout for people trying to vote twice. Getting caught trying to vote twice could result in a vacation at the nearest Federal Penitentiary.

I think the folks who took the cards didn't realize that they need to return them. I'd be asking the poll workers why they didn't get the cards back.