well now, seems like we have ourselves another paganized Christan holiday to wit:
All Hallows Eve morphed into halloween w/o reference to All Saints day (11/1) nor Day of the Dead (11/2).
just like Christmas morphed into a stupid retail celebration & disconnected from St Nicholas Day (12/5) when gifts were supposed to be exchanged.
Booo...indeed.
Posted by: OhioOrrin at October 31, 2006 10:29 AM
I sure hope it has… Them non-Christian Holidays sure rub me the wrong way. And why the heck do I have to give out all this fine candy which I procured on sale over at K-Mart? So some Non Christian ritual can continue?
No sir, this variety pack of Tootsie pops will be consumed by me, and perhaps my dog if he gets lucky on the drop.
Posted by:
HugeWangUSAF at October 31, 2006 11:10 AM
Ummm... Where exactly has Halloween been banned??
I was raised in a pretty red part of Georgia, and my neighborhood still has a party for the kids... Now I live in a relatively blue part of Georgia, and there are still Halloween festivities going on...
Where and Who, Matt?
Posted by: Georgia Frawg at October 31, 2006 11:47 AM
Frawg, this is totally OT, but it involves an exchange you and I had back when you first posted at B4B. You linked to one or more articles about rail guns, and I linked to an article about some kind of laser or particle bean weapon that, according to the article, was getting close to at least the trial stage, if not actual deployment. Did you, by any chance, archive that article? I seem to have lost it, and my friend, Google, doesn't seem to be able to find it again.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 31, 2006 12:49 PM
I am a state worker in Harrisburg PA and I can tell you there are instances of political correctness run amok. The wife of on of my coworkers has a person in her office that had a religious awakening, changed his name to ja-wa (or something like that), grew a ZZ top like beard and then sued the state (specifically the office where he works) to effectively ban ANY sort of holiday decoration on the grounds they offend his faith. Ridiculous
Posted by: aric at October 31, 2006 01:14 PM
Haloween is being refered t as a secular holiday in the US. However, in the UK Satan worshippers, witches and warocks have successfully sued to get Halloween off as a RELIGIOUS holiday, on addition to three other days in the year which are SACRED to their RELIGION. Christians are allowed 5 days to celebrate their religion and Muslims are allowed...drum roll...
26 DAYS (including ALL of Ramadan)!!!! NO wonder nothing is evr accomplished in the Middle east.
Posted by: phnxbmed at October 31, 2006 01:25 PM
Technically, Halloween, or Old Hallow's Eve is a catholic holiday that has become almost completely secularized. There was a good history channel documentary on its history on sunday.
Spook, I don't think that I archived the article, but they might have something on www.wikipedia.org about it. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Posted by: Georgia Frawg at October 31, 2006 03:18 PM
Uh oh, Spook is on the war path!
On a Halloween related note, had the pleasure to watch The Exorcist the other night for the first time in a few years. I'm 31 years old and I was still freaked out going down to my basement for laundry during the commercial breaks.
Posted by: Tom Shipley at October 31, 2006 06:13 PM
Posted by: Freedom1 at October 31, 2006 06:46 PM
Halloween is still one of my favorite holidays, though here in Barstow they confuse the heck out of me. Trick or Treating is done on the 30th, and then there's a parade on the 31st. Werid Barstow tradition that I have no idea how it started... *Shrugs*
In Needles we still do candy give aways and stuff on the 31st and we still decorate. But Needles is a very small town so having kids wandering all the streets is a lot safer there than even in Barstow. *Sighs*
Still, it's fun to scare trick or treaters, It's even more fun to scare the adults! :D
Posted by:
Gozer at October 31, 2006 09:04 PM
The question was: "Has Halloween been banned were you live yet?"
--In my small town in the province of New Brunswick(next to Maine for you geographically challenged Knuckleheads), now only kids 14 and younger are allowed to go door to door for treats and must stop by 7:00 PM. Certainly an improvement to giving candy to oversized high school goons up to midnight.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 31, 2006 10:56 PM
All Hallows Eve morphed into Halloween?
Halloween has its origins in paganism going back long before Christ and even before Zoroastrian. Halloween is a holiday first celebrated by the agrarian faiths before the concept of an Apollonian god was even invented.
Oh, and Saturnalia was a popular holiday celebrated by the Roman Empire on December 25th, the birth day of the Roman god, Saturn. The evergreen tree, Yule log, and mistletoe are fertility symbols. Saturnalia was so popular, that Christians moved the traditional celebration of Jesus’ birth from mid-January to late December just to undermine the pagan holiday.
Posted by: Christian Wright at October 31, 2006 11:37 PM
Actually technicaly Halloween is a pagan holiday. It has Celtic roots(we prolly nicked it from some one else before us)and has been practicsed in one form or another in Scotland and i presume Ireland and Wales for a very very long time, dunno how long but it is an ancient tradition. We even have seperate words in Scots for things relating to it and different customs and stuff. It definetly ain't Christian I am afraid.
Posted by: weefee at November 1, 2006 07:18 AM
Halloween wasn't banned in my neighborhood but there were a lot less trick-or-treaters around this year so now my wife and I are stuck with lots of leftover candy that neither she nor I are able to consume.
Posted by:
Carl at November 1, 2006 01:55 PM
When I was a kid all of us went trick-or-treating.
The Mormons, Catholics, and Protestants. To kids it is a time to dress up and have fun.
Banning the event is ridiculous....
Posted by: Ames Tiedeman at November 2, 2006 07:40 PM
well now, seems like we have ourselves another paganized Christan holiday to wit:
All Hallows Eve morphed into halloween w/o reference to All Saints day (11/1) nor Day of the Dead (11/2).
just like Christmas morphed into a stupid retail celebration & disconnected from St Nicholas Day (12/5) when gifts were supposed to be exchanged.
Booo...indeed.
I sure hope it has… Them non-Christian Holidays sure rub me the wrong way. And why the heck do I have to give out all this fine candy which I procured on sale over at K-Mart? So some Non Christian ritual can continue?
No sir, this variety pack of Tootsie pops will be consumed by me, and perhaps my dog if he gets lucky on the drop.
Ummm... Where exactly has Halloween been banned??
I was raised in a pretty red part of Georgia, and my neighborhood still has a party for the kids... Now I live in a relatively blue part of Georgia, and there are still Halloween festivities going on...
Where and Who, Matt?
Frawg, this is totally OT, but it involves an exchange you and I had back when you first posted at B4B. You linked to one or more articles about rail guns, and I linked to an article about some kind of laser or particle bean weapon that, according to the article, was getting close to at least the trial stage, if not actual deployment. Did you, by any chance, archive that article? I seem to have lost it, and my friend, Google, doesn't seem to be able to find it again.
I am a state worker in Harrisburg PA and I can tell you there are instances of political correctness run amok. The wife of on of my coworkers has a person in her office that had a religious awakening, changed his name to ja-wa (or something like that), grew a ZZ top like beard and then sued the state (specifically the office where he works) to effectively ban ANY sort of holiday decoration on the grounds they offend his faith. Ridiculous
Haloween is being refered t as a secular holiday in the US. However, in the UK Satan worshippers, witches and warocks have successfully sued to get Halloween off as a RELIGIOUS holiday, on addition to three other days in the year which are SACRED to their RELIGION. Christians are allowed 5 days to celebrate their religion and Muslims are allowed...drum roll...
26 DAYS (including ALL of Ramadan)!!!! NO wonder nothing is evr accomplished in the Middle east.
Technically, Halloween, or Old Hallow's Eve is a catholic holiday that has become almost completely secularized. There was a good history channel documentary on its history on sunday.
Spook, I don't think that I archived the article, but they might have something on www.wikipedia.org about it. Sorry I can't be of more help.
Uh oh, Spook is on the war path!
On a Halloween related note, had the pleasure to watch The Exorcist the other night for the first time in a few years. I'm 31 years old and I was still freaked out going down to my basement for laundry during the commercial breaks.
HAPPY HALLOWEEN!!!
:)
Halloween is still one of my favorite holidays, though here in Barstow they confuse the heck out of me. Trick or Treating is done on the 30th, and then there's a parade on the 31st. Werid Barstow tradition that I have no idea how it started... *Shrugs*
In Needles we still do candy give aways and stuff on the 31st and we still decorate. But Needles is a very small town so having kids wandering all the streets is a lot safer there than even in Barstow. *Sighs*
Still, it's fun to scare trick or treaters, It's even more fun to scare the adults! :D
The question was: "Has Halloween been banned were you live yet?"
--In my small town in the province of New Brunswick(next to Maine for you geographically challenged Knuckleheads), now only kids 14 and younger are allowed to go door to door for treats and must stop by 7:00 PM. Certainly an improvement to giving candy to oversized high school goons up to midnight.
All Hallows Eve morphed into Halloween?
Halloween has its origins in paganism going back long before Christ and even before Zoroastrian. Halloween is a holiday first celebrated by the agrarian faiths before the concept of an Apollonian god was even invented.
Oh, and Saturnalia was a popular holiday celebrated by the Roman Empire on December 25th, the birth day of the Roman god, Saturn. The evergreen tree, Yule log, and mistletoe are fertility symbols. Saturnalia was so popular, that Christians moved the traditional celebration of Jesus’ birth from mid-January to late December just to undermine the pagan holiday.
Actually technicaly Halloween is a pagan holiday. It has Celtic roots(we prolly nicked it from some one else before us)and has been practicsed in one form or another in Scotland and i presume Ireland and Wales for a very very long time, dunno how long but it is an ancient tradition. We even have seperate words in Scots for things relating to it and different customs and stuff. It definetly ain't Christian I am afraid.
Halloween wasn't banned in my neighborhood but there were a lot less trick-or-treaters around this year so now my wife and I are stuck with lots of leftover candy that neither she nor I are able to consume.
When I was a kid all of us went trick-or-treating.
The Mormons, Catholics, and Protestants. To kids it is a time to dress up and have fun.
Banning the event is ridiculous....