Seems like the Republicans would do well to push the domestic accomplishments into high gear – booming national productivity, booming stock market, low unemployment, lowered taxes, low interest rates (how many people refinanced during the Bush years), new home sales, lower than expected deficit (all while paying for a war and massive cleanups to natural disasters) and on and on…
Republicans must make people understand in the remaining time before elections – elect a Democrat and you could loose all of it.
Posted by: DM at October 25, 2006 03:22 PM
There are only a few “heart issues” that are strong enough to push people to vote. One of those is the abortion issue. I know many people who view a politician’s stance on that subject as their primary decision on how to vote. The war is also a “heart issue” and pulls at people in both directions but regardless of how people view it I believe most understand what failure in that area potential means and pull out would definitely be a failure.
Other than a few “heart issues” most people vote with their back pocket. This is where Conservatives and Republicans should be loud and clear. The accomplishments of the Bush administration in the way it affects them financially are major pluses.
Are you willing to risk the good for empty rhetoric where Democrats say; “Bush’s plans are terrible. We have a better way (but we won’t tell you till we get elected).”
Posted by: DM at October 25, 2006 03:47 PM
Matt, you just keep those fingers in your ears and ignore the loud steps coming up behind you. It's probably nothing.
Oh, and that "tremendous victory" in 2004? The the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
"Tremendous." Right.
Posted by: Cyberactor at October 25, 2006 04:38 PM
Hey Cyber:
Just to recap... Bush got more people to vote for him AND had a larger percentage then your lover Bill Clinton got in TWO elections.
So... should I assume by your rank stupidity that you're also saying Bill Clinton shouldn't have been allowed to govern either?
Posted by: wawilliyo at October 25, 2006 05:05 PM
Those loud steps? Oh, its only the KOS crowd (which is practically everyone on the left these days) charging in and readying their inevitable cries of CHEAT! VOTER FRAUD! DISENFRANCHISEMENT! HALLIBURTON! BIG OIL! and the rest.
The left's real problem is that they have been believing their own spin; you tell everyone that the sky is purple enough times and soon you start to believe it yourself.
All those polls the left glommed onto, all those early tests taken during the summer when no one was home and no one was paying attention to politics, all those polls had the libs believing the castle was theirs for the taking. Now they see the drawbridge going up and they have realized that the moat is in their way and no democrat has a clue how to build a raft. The talking-heads are downplaying those same polls of course, saying they really dont mean all that much anyway. HA!
I love it! The panic is starting to set in, the lefties are realizing, with ill-concealed horror I might add, that the country is filled with people who wont fall for their overhyped crap and empty promises. When the NYT actually has to concoct a story about why falling gas prices are bad...you know the game is just about over.
Posted by: Bacon-I Will Miss Thee at October 25, 2006 05:06 PM
Matt,
I agree with Bush: November 7th is going to be a good day for Republicans. Finally they will be out of power and can go back to blaming Democrats for all the country's problems.
Finally, they will have something else to scream about besides the dread MSM and Cindy Sheehan.
Finally, they can stop trying to put lipstick on a pig, and claim that Iraq has been an unprecedented success.
After 5 years of Republican rule, I think the country knows the truth: Republicans are great as an opposition party, but only Democrats have the passion, intelligence, and integrity to effectively govern. November 7th will truly be a great day for the whole country.
Posted by: steveGA at October 25, 2006 05:51 PM
Cyberactor...note he said those loud steps coming from BEHIND YOU.
Don't drop the soap.
Posted by: Warriornation at October 25, 2006 05:55 PM
Lets not forget that we own all the Diebold voting machines. Muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Posted by:
CJ at October 25, 2006 06:30 PM
Lets not forget that we own all the Diebold voting machines. Muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Posted by: CJ at October 25, 2006 06:30 PM
So what does that mean CJ? Is that some sort of threat? Are you predicting another voting fiasco in the U.S. of A?
Posted by: Canadian Observer at October 25, 2006 06:36 PM
Just playing on the paronoid fears of the America hating left wing lunatic kooks. Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Posted by:
CJ at October 25, 2006 06:43 PM
Mark:
You call the narrowest election results since Woodrow Wilson a "tremendous victory?"
Well of course when dealing with Bush and the Republicans you have set the bar *really* low.
Wade
Posted by: Wade at October 25, 2006 06:57 PM
*Chuckles*
A little one liner there CJ, I liked it. :)
Honestly though, this will be an interesting election because everyone "Knows" what's going to happen and yet the fighting hasn't stopped. The game isn't over until the buzzer sounds at the end of the game. Let's not forget that folks as we go out there to campaign and vote. :D
Posted by:
Gozer at October 25, 2006 07:41 PM
Is it me, or are the DemocRATs in Washington, as well as the DBM, acting desperate again?
Two weeks ago, I was writing this one off. Now I'm guardedly--is that even a word?--optimistic. One pundit says this; one says that; King Karl Rove all but assures us of a GOP victory. I don't know how it's gonna go, but I think it's gonna be close.
At least we own the Diebold machines...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 25, 2006 08:05 PM
Bah, who was I supposed to believe in the first place, the NYT and LAT? Even the professional pollsters are tightening up their predictions because they dont want to lose any rep that they cant pick races. These same pollsters had Kerry beating Bush by a landslide, and the same people who are rubbing their hands in glee at blogs like this were doing the same in '04.
The republicans have a first rate GOTV machine, they have been outspending the dems on ads, the RNC has been directly calling non-aligned voters over the dems by four to one and for two months now we've had to hear the left crow about winning before the race even started. Pissed a lot of people off, thats for sure.
If ever there was payback warranted, its right here right now, if for nothing else than to cost the NYT money as they are forced to reprint all those papers that say "Dems Win".
Im confidant in a republican victory and you should be too.
Posted by: 4th Light Horse at October 25, 2006 08:25 PM
Im confidant in a republican victory and you should be too.
Posted by: 4th Light Horse at October 25, 2006 08:25 PM
If the American people, after all they have had to endure since 2001, once again waste their vote on the Republicans, I'll throw in the towel, call it a day and leave you to your sorrow. There will be one less troll for y'all to tolerate.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at October 25, 2006 09:28 PM
I'll throw in the towel, call it a day and leave you to your sorrow. There will be one less troll for y'all to tolerate.
To use one of my granddaughter's favorite expressions - SWEEEEEET
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 25, 2006 10:33 PM
Wait a sec....is that Alec Baldwin. Canuck, get a hold of him...he boasted, as you, that he wanted to leave if the election didn't turn his way, but since he's a comfortable rich liberal his visa to a poor African village has gone unused. Too bad, he seems to need to lose a little weight and gain a new brain from the liberal mental disease.
Posted by: dickdee at October 26, 2006 01:18 AM
*Chuckles*
Now now Canadian, you don't really mean that. We've heard similar claims from so many on the left, and yet they're all still around. (Though I will grant it's easier to stop commenting on a blog than to leave the country. :D )
Posted by:
Gozer at October 26, 2006 01:36 AM
The Dems may be premature in "measuring the drapes" but Bush needs to measure the prison cell he'll spend some time in for War Crimes.....
yep, it's me, the psychedelic tourist, and i haven't been illegaly arrested, tortured, and tried in a secret "star chamber" - yet!
Posted by:
bodhi at October 26, 2006 04:40 AM
Wally sez, after I point out that Bush's razor thin win over Kerry was hardly "tremendous":
"Just to recap... Bush got more people to vote for him AND had a larger percentage then your lover Bill Clinton got in TWO elections."
Coupla things: In 1996, Clinton TROUNCED Dole by nine percentage points and, you may remember, we had that wack-job Perot in the race siphoning off votes (he got 8%). Bush, with pathetically weak support for Nader, squeaked by Kerry by two percent. (Nader got less than 0.4%) Vote count? Shoot, Kerry got more votes than any candidate in history who didn't win. Bush BARELY won. Hardly a "tremendous victory."
Wally again: "So... should I assume by your rank stupidity that you're also saying Bill Clinton shouldn't have been allowed to govern either?"
First of all, my nutty little friend, I didn't say that Bush "shouldn't have been allowed to govern" did I? No, I didn't. That makes what you said...and I quote...."rank stupidity."
You make this too easy, Wally. You really do.
Posted by: Cyberactor at October 26, 2006 10:08 AM
DM,
From the "Is Hating President Bush Enough?" thread:
Sorry I missed your earlier post. You can get a great deal of information about the Fair Tax from their website. I don't know all the particulars, but I do know Neal Boortz has co-authored a book on the Fair Tax and legislation has been introduced in both the House (H.R. 25) and the Seante (S.R. 25).
Posted by: A-10 at October 26, 2006 10:20 AM
Thanks A-10!
I saw your post and posted a reply (though I don’t see it). There are many great aspects to the FairTax provision and hope this moves forward.
Interestingly I took part in a group call with Congressman Jim Walsh and a number of constituents last night. My suggestion to him was to see if we could bring this to public awareness and act on it.
Posted by: DM at October 26, 2006 11:42 AM
Cyberactor,
"Shoot, Kerry got more votes than any candidate in history who didn't win. Bush BARELY won."
Many of Kerry's votes were not FOR Kerry, but against Bush.
Bush's BARE margin of victory was only about 3,000,000 votes. His "margin of victory" in 2000 was -543,816, so I guess he improved by over 3,500,000 in his margin of victory between 2000 and 2004. He also improved in his vote totals by 11,580,000.
Posted by: A-10 at October 26, 2006 11:50 AM
DM,
Yea, it seems that sometimes it takes a while for the posts to take. Other times, they never appear. Still other times, they pop right up. Go figure.
Posted by: A-10 at October 26, 2006 11:59 AM
I am going to go out on a limb and predict that not only will the GOP hold both houses, but will gain 3 seats in the house and one in the senate!
Posted by:
James C. Morris at October 29, 2006 01:09 AM
My bizarre prediction that the GOP will pick up three house seats and one senate seat is based on the following:
1. The conservative disaffection is a family quarrel. It does not mean that any significant number of conservatives will bolt the ONLY choice fow even relatively sane government.
2. The black vote is disaffected. The Democrat's cries of "stolen" elections convinced very few except the black community. As a result, nearly a third of black voters think they will be cheated out of their vote even if they bothere to go to the polls.
3. Places that are Democratic are typically overwhelmingly Democratic. Areas that are, for instance, 80% Democratic can show up in the polls as if they were spread around the country, but that is not representative.
4. For some years now, polls have not been used to predict elections, but to effect elections. This is based on "group mentality," The notion that if we can convince people that a majority thinks one way, many of them decide that the majority must be right, and vote that way. But the American electorate has become smarter than that.
5. Many pollsters are so dishonest as to border on fraud, and some have crossed that line and are now being prosecuted.
Jim Morris
Posted by:
James C. Morris at October 29, 2006 01:36 AM
Seems like the Republicans would do well to push the domestic accomplishments into high gear – booming national productivity, booming stock market, low unemployment, lowered taxes, low interest rates (how many people refinanced during the Bush years), new home sales, lower than expected deficit (all while paying for a war and massive cleanups to natural disasters) and on and on…
Republicans must make people understand in the remaining time before elections – elect a Democrat and you could loose all of it.
There are only a few “heart issues” that are strong enough to push people to vote. One of those is the abortion issue. I know many people who view a politician’s stance on that subject as their primary decision on how to vote. The war is also a “heart issue” and pulls at people in both directions but regardless of how people view it I believe most understand what failure in that area potential means and pull out would definitely be a failure.
Other than a few “heart issues” most people vote with their back pocket. This is where Conservatives and Republicans should be loud and clear. The accomplishments of the Bush administration in the way it affects them financially are major pluses.
Are you willing to risk the good for empty rhetoric where Democrats say; “Bush’s plans are terrible. We have a better way (but we won’t tell you till we get elected).”
Matt, you just keep those fingers in your ears and ignore the loud steps coming up behind you. It's probably nothing.
Oh, and that "tremendous victory" in 2004? The the narrowest win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.
"Tremendous." Right.
Hey Cyber:
Just to recap... Bush got more people to vote for him AND had a larger percentage then your lover Bill Clinton got in TWO elections.
So... should I assume by your rank stupidity that you're also saying Bill Clinton shouldn't have been allowed to govern either?
Those loud steps? Oh, its only the KOS crowd (which is practically everyone on the left these days) charging in and readying their inevitable cries of CHEAT! VOTER FRAUD! DISENFRANCHISEMENT! HALLIBURTON! BIG OIL! and the rest.
The left's real problem is that they have been believing their own spin; you tell everyone that the sky is purple enough times and soon you start to believe it yourself.
All those polls the left glommed onto, all those early tests taken during the summer when no one was home and no one was paying attention to politics, all those polls had the libs believing the castle was theirs for the taking. Now they see the drawbridge going up and they have realized that the moat is in their way and no democrat has a clue how to build a raft. The talking-heads are downplaying those same polls of course, saying they really dont mean all that much anyway. HA!
I love it! The panic is starting to set in, the lefties are realizing, with ill-concealed horror I might add, that the country is filled with people who wont fall for their overhyped crap and empty promises. When the NYT actually has to concoct a story about why falling gas prices are bad...you know the game is just about over.
Matt,
I agree with Bush: November 7th is going to be a good day for Republicans. Finally they will be out of power and can go back to blaming Democrats for all the country's problems.
Finally, they will have something else to scream about besides the dread MSM and Cindy Sheehan.
Finally, they can stop trying to put lipstick on a pig, and claim that Iraq has been an unprecedented success.
After 5 years of Republican rule, I think the country knows the truth: Republicans are great as an opposition party, but only Democrats have the passion, intelligence, and integrity to effectively govern. November 7th will truly be a great day for the whole country.
Cyberactor...note he said those loud steps coming from BEHIND YOU.
Don't drop the soap.
Lets not forget that we own all the Diebold voting machines. Muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Lets not forget that we own all the Diebold voting machines. Muahahahahahahaha!!!!
Posted by: CJ at October 25, 2006 06:30 PM
So what does that mean CJ? Is that some sort of threat? Are you predicting another voting fiasco in the U.S. of A?
Just playing on the paronoid fears of the America hating left wing lunatic kooks. Bwahahahahaha!!!!
Mark:
You call the narrowest election results since Woodrow Wilson a "tremendous victory?"
Well of course when dealing with Bush and the Republicans you have set the bar *really* low.
Wade
*Chuckles*
A little one liner there CJ, I liked it. :)
Honestly though, this will be an interesting election because everyone "Knows" what's going to happen and yet the fighting hasn't stopped. The game isn't over until the buzzer sounds at the end of the game. Let's not forget that folks as we go out there to campaign and vote. :D
Is it me, or are the DemocRATs in Washington, as well as the DBM, acting desperate again?
Two weeks ago, I was writing this one off. Now I'm guardedly--is that even a word?--optimistic. One pundit says this; one says that; King Karl Rove all but assures us of a GOP victory. I don't know how it's gonna go, but I think it's gonna be close.
At least we own the Diebold machines...
Bah, who was I supposed to believe in the first place, the NYT and LAT? Even the professional pollsters are tightening up their predictions because they dont want to lose any rep that they cant pick races. These same pollsters had Kerry beating Bush by a landslide, and the same people who are rubbing their hands in glee at blogs like this were doing the same in '04.
The republicans have a first rate GOTV machine, they have been outspending the dems on ads, the RNC has been directly calling non-aligned voters over the dems by four to one and for two months now we've had to hear the left crow about winning before the race even started. Pissed a lot of people off, thats for sure.
If ever there was payback warranted, its right here right now, if for nothing else than to cost the NYT money as they are forced to reprint all those papers that say "Dems Win".
Im confidant in a republican victory and you should be too.
Im confidant in a republican victory and you should be too.
Posted by: 4th Light Horse at October 25, 2006 08:25 PM
If the American people, after all they have had to endure since 2001, once again waste their vote on the Republicans, I'll throw in the towel, call it a day and leave you to your sorrow. There will be one less troll for y'all to tolerate.
I'll throw in the towel, call it a day and leave you to your sorrow. There will be one less troll for y'all to tolerate.
To use one of my granddaughter's favorite expressions - SWEEEEEET
Wait a sec....is that Alec Baldwin. Canuck, get a hold of him...he boasted, as you, that he wanted to leave if the election didn't turn his way, but since he's a comfortable rich liberal his visa to a poor African village has gone unused. Too bad, he seems to need to lose a little weight and gain a new brain from the liberal mental disease.
*Chuckles*
Now now Canadian, you don't really mean that. We've heard similar claims from so many on the left, and yet they're all still around. (Though I will grant it's easier to stop commenting on a blog than to leave the country. :D )
The Dems may be premature in "measuring the drapes" but Bush needs to measure the prison cell he'll spend some time in for War Crimes.....
yep, it's me, the psychedelic tourist, and i haven't been illegaly arrested, tortured, and tried in a secret "star chamber" - yet!
Wally sez, after I point out that Bush's razor thin win over Kerry was hardly "tremendous":
"Just to recap... Bush got more people to vote for him AND had a larger percentage then your lover Bill Clinton got in TWO elections."
Coupla things: In 1996, Clinton TROUNCED Dole by nine percentage points and, you may remember, we had that wack-job Perot in the race siphoning off votes (he got 8%). Bush, with pathetically weak support for Nader, squeaked by Kerry by two percent. (Nader got less than 0.4%) Vote count? Shoot, Kerry got more votes than any candidate in history who didn't win. Bush BARELY won. Hardly a "tremendous victory."
Wally again: "So... should I assume by your rank stupidity that you're also saying Bill Clinton shouldn't have been allowed to govern either?"
First of all, my nutty little friend, I didn't say that Bush "shouldn't have been allowed to govern" did I? No, I didn't. That makes what you said...and I quote...."rank stupidity."
You make this too easy, Wally. You really do.
DM,
From the "Is Hating President Bush Enough?" thread:
Sorry I missed your earlier post. You can get a great deal of information about the Fair Tax from their website. I don't know all the particulars, but I do know Neal Boortz has co-authored a book on the Fair Tax and legislation has been introduced in both the House (H.R. 25) and the Seante (S.R. 25).
Thanks A-10!
I saw your post and posted a reply (though I don’t see it). There are many great aspects to the FairTax provision and hope this moves forward.
Interestingly I took part in a group call with Congressman Jim Walsh and a number of constituents last night. My suggestion to him was to see if we could bring this to public awareness and act on it.
Cyberactor,
"Shoot, Kerry got more votes than any candidate in history who didn't win. Bush BARELY won."
Many of Kerry's votes were not FOR Kerry, but against Bush.
Bush's BARE margin of victory was only about 3,000,000 votes. His "margin of victory" in 2000 was -543,816, so I guess he improved by over 3,500,000 in his margin of victory between 2000 and 2004. He also improved in his vote totals by 11,580,000.
DM,
Yea, it seems that sometimes it takes a while for the posts to take. Other times, they never appear. Still other times, they pop right up. Go figure.
I am going to go out on a limb and predict that not only will the GOP hold both houses, but will gain 3 seats in the house and one in the senate!
My bizarre prediction that the GOP will pick up three house seats and one senate seat is based on the following:
1. The conservative disaffection is a family quarrel. It does not mean that any significant number of conservatives will bolt the ONLY choice fow even relatively sane government.
2. The black vote is disaffected. The Democrat's cries of "stolen" elections convinced very few except the black community. As a result, nearly a third of black voters think they will be cheated out of their vote even if they bothere to go to the polls.
3. Places that are Democratic are typically overwhelmingly Democratic. Areas that are, for instance, 80% Democratic can show up in the polls as if they were spread around the country, but that is not representative.
4. For some years now, polls have not been used to predict elections, but to effect elections. This is based on "group mentality," The notion that if we can convince people that a majority thinks one way, many of them decide that the majority must be right, and vote that way. But the American electorate has become smarter than that.
5. Many pollsters are so dishonest as to border on fraud, and some have crossed that line and are now being prosecuted.
Jim Morris