What the hell are you talking about?

I didn't know where to post this so I'm posting it here...

First I want to state that my Uncle is dying of Parkinsons, and this is to point out the ignorance of hatemongers like Rush Limbaugh (who I assumed knew a thing or two about drug abuse).

Recently, he attacked Michael J Fox and his stem cell research ad stating Fox was acting when he was swaying back and forth.

I am pasting a response from William J Weiner M.D. professor and chairman of the department of neurology at the University of Maryland Medical Center

His words are as follows:

"What you are seeing on the video is side effects of the medication. He has to take that medication to sit there and talk to you like that. ... He's not over-dramatizing. ... [Limbaugh] is revealing his ignorance of Parkinson's disease, because people with Parkinson's don't look like that at all when they're not taking their medication. They look stiff, and frozen, and don't move at all. ... People with Parkinson's, when they've had the disease for awhile, are in this bind, where if they don't take any medication, they can be stiff and hardly able to talk. And if they do take their medication, so they can talk, they get all of this movement, like what you see in the ad."

Whether you believe in stem cell research, or not... It amazes me how people lose compassion for people such as Michael J Fox who have entertained us for years, and now because he is taking a stand before he dies is being roasted because he has crossed party lines. Shame on Limbaugh and his ilk. Shame on anyone who has the lack of humanity to sit comfortably in their home and shun this poor soul and most likely his horrible demise. I pray you or your family never suffer from this horrible disease.

Why is there such a fixation here on a mere
hypothetical-scenario (a Speaker Pelosi)?I
have to say that there's more of a preparation
on the Right for a Democratic House than there
is on the Left. I guess that all of your talk
about no problems keeping Congress was just
a cover of bravado.Thanks for giving me
hope!

Walcrowe

Everyone knows how despicable Limbaugh is, although I guess that is exactly what his followers want. The more garbage he spouts, the more he is admired by these individuals. Go figure. Please accept my best wishes for your uncle.

Walcrowe

Everyone knows how despicable Limbaugh is, although I guess that is exactly what his followers want. The more garbage he spouts, the more he is admired by these individuals. Go figure. Please accept my best wishes for your uncle.

Please excuse the double post. Didn't think it went through the first time. My error.

Yes, it's completely off thread, but I think the point Rush was trying to make is that embryonic stem cell advocates were "using" Mr. Fox in a vulnerable state (not on his medication) as an emotional ploy to sway the public and as another attack on the Presidential policy against expansion of federally funded embryonic stem cell research.

The facts are that embryonic stem cell reasearch is not banned. Private researchers can expand the lines of embryonic stem cells being researched all they want. Its just that the Federal Government will not be funding the expansion of the research. They are limited to the existing embryonic stem cell lines.

There is really no difference in the latest ploy and former Senator Edwards claiming that "when John Kerry is president, people like Christopher Reeve are going to walk, get up out of that wheelchair and walk again." Short of a miracle, it wasn't going to happen. At least not in Christopher Reeve's lifetime (ignoring the fact that Mr. Reeve has passed away). We've been doing stem cell research since the 60's and haven't gotten a single person "out of that wheelchair and walk(ing) again", so I don't think we were going to make ground-breaking progress just because of a Kerry presidency.

"Yes, it's completely off thread, but I think the point Rush was trying to make is that embryonic stem cell advocates were "using" Mr. Fox in a vulnerable state (not on his medication) as an emotional ploy to sway the public and as another attack on the Presidential policy against expansion of federally funded embryonic stem cell research."

Partly, but he personally attacked Fox, accusing him of deliberately going off of his meds to appear on camera with exaggerated symptoms of his disease for dramatic effect. Rush even goes so far as to accuse Fox of faking his symptoms all together.

Rush Limbaugh - "I stated when I saw the ad, I was commenting to you about it, that he was either off the medication or he was acting. He is an actor, after all."

Sad that fat boy, pill popping Rush had to sink to a new low.

Morphie-
The sad fact is Michael J. Fox has admitted that for political purposes, he does go off his meds to make appearances and commercials.

Walcrowe neglected to point out that later in the very same broadcast Limbaugh apologized.

""Now, people are telling me that they have seen Michael J. Fox in interviews and he does appear the same way in the interviews as he does in this commercial for Claire McCaskill. All right, then I stand corrected.

So I will bigly, hugely admit that I was wrong, and I will apologize to Michael J. Fox, if I am wrong in characterizing his behavior on this commercial as an act, especially since people are telling me they have seen him this way on other interviews and in other television appearances. "

Now it's clear that Fox is being played by people who think embryonic stem cell research is the ONLY type of stem cell research that will produce results.

To date, embryonic stem cell research hasn't helped cure ONE disease while adult stem cell research actually has helped cure disease.

So why can't people like Fox at least be honest. I notice that not once in his "commercial" does he mention what he's advocating... embryonic stem cell research.

You gotta wonder why? Because everyone is in favor of stem cell research. A far smaller number are in favor of embryonic stem cell research. And the pro-embryonic crowd knows this.

In keeping with staying off-topic on this thread, with the possible exception of Global Warming, I can't think of a single issue that has been more demagogued and subverted by the Left than Stem Cell Research.

AJ Strata had one of the best posts I've ever read on this topic yesterday.

"The sad fact is Michael J. Fox has admitted that for political purposes, he does go off his meds to make appearances and commercials."

I can't find anything to support that...if you have a source please provide it.

He wouldn't be able to speak properly if he stopped taking his meds.

William J. Weiner M.D., professor and chairman of the department of neurology at the University of Maryland Medical Center had this to say:

"What you are seeing on the video is side effects of the medication. He has to take that medication to sit there and talk to you like that. ... He's not over-dramatizing. ... [Limbaugh] is revealing his ignorance of Parkinson's disease, because people with Parkinson's don't look like that at all when they're not taking their medication. They look stiff, and frozen, and don't move at all. ... People with Parkinson's, when they've had the disease for awhile, are in this bind, where if they don't take any medication, they can be stiff and hardly able to talk. And if they do take their medication, so they can talk, they get all of this movement, like what you see in the ad."

Thank you, A-10 and walwillyo and Spook,for injecting a little reality into what morphie and the observer (who never seems to actually SEE anything) were trying to turn into an anti-Rush, anti-GOP, rant.

Fox is scared. He is in pain, he is facing a miserable death, and he would like to get better. He is too smart to fall for this hyper-emotional demagogueing any other way. Someone has convinced him of something that is simply not true---that fetal stem cell research has shown promise. In any area. Not so. Fox stands a much better chance of benefitting from the ongoing and far more hopeful and successful reserach using stem cells from placentas and umbilical cords, as well as some excting new reserach into adult stem cells.

But you guys did get a chance to make some fat/drug jokes, which I'm sure felt very good.

Now, back on thread...

Did you notice how the Left Angeles Times conveniently managed to skip over so much in their "bio" of Pelosi? They managed to cover her Halloween costume making and thoroughly discuss her supermom parenting skills, but somehow just didn't get around to mentioning her anti-union stance regarding her many employees, in her hotels and her vineyards.

It would have been oh so inconvenient to discuss any of the glaring contradictions in Comrade Pelosi's dossier----her claims to back unions while refusing to hire union labor, her attacks o what she terms "corruption" while she is guilty of so much herself.

But none of this type of real info belongs in a puff piece, which is all the latimes accolade is all about.

I listened to Rush this morning, and I think what he was trying to say was how the left parades out people that are considered "victims" that are impervious to criticism. This is the same thing that Colter said in her recient book. It's a damned if you do, damned if you don't situation. If we critize someone like Fox for making a stand on Stem Cell research, then we are cold and unfeeling, and don't care about the sick. I feel for Fox, and hate to see him suffering on or off his meds, but I would like to see the Left at least once try to tell the truth about something.

I have an idea: Since the Federal Government is not paying for the stem cell research fully-(this
is where private medical research comes into play
and those who want to 'donate' funds for this research-which I think should occur) because the government would have to pass this cost onto the taxpayers. WHY DON'T THE LIKES OF GEORGE SOROS,
SPEND MONEY IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HAVE THIS STEM CELL RESEARCH DONE, INSTEAD OF SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY WITH HIS HATE FOR BUSH? OTHERS WHO HAVE SO VERY MUCH MONEY, COULD PITCH IN, SAY 'BILL
GATES, BABS STREISAND, NANCY'BIGBUCKS' PELOSI, TED KENNEDY(WHO ALWAYS WANTS TO HELP THE LITTLE PEOPLE) JOHN KERRY(WITH ALL THE MONIES HIS WIFE DOLES OUT) FILMMAKERS, MOORE, STONE, ETC. THESE ARE PEOPLE WITH BIG BUCKS, WHO COULD DO ALOT MORE WITH THEIR MONEY, HELPING FUND THE STEM RESEARCH,
RATHER THAN THE MONEY THEY HAVE(AND DO) WASTE ON "POLITICAL ASSASSINATION OF ANYTHING GOP.
THIS RESEARCH SHOULD BE DONE ON PRIVATE FUNDING-

Coulter was right again...the libs wheel out these people so that it makes it impossible to impinge their credibility.

Sorry, but I have a brother in law with Parkinson's and he finds the Fox ad to be totally disingenious. Completely absurd and designed to elicit an emotional response not grounded in science whatsoever.

Typical of the libs to take advantage of these people to try and score points...same old same old for them, never changes.