"We're gonna wallop them on November 7th - it'll be like watching Wile E. Coyote run off a cliff..."-MN
LoL! Who's got the ACME explosives?
Posted by: Freedom1 at October 23, 2006 12:48 AM
it'll be like watching Wile E. Coyote run off a cliff...
LOL! That was a good one...and then they'll look up and see the big boulder coming down to squash them!LOL :-D
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at October 23, 2006 12:59 AM
I would like to hear one, just ONE Bush supporter put aside party lines and give me one reason why the current administration (and their war) deserves any more support from the American people. I know we went there to get the WMDs, right? Or no, it was to spread democracy to the Middle East, that sounds about right. Or to oust Saddam, since GHWB left him in power after the Gulf War.
No matter what anyone says, as long as they are a Republican you believe it without any hesitation. Eventually I hope that you realize that 99% of politicians are corrupt millionaires who don't have the American people in their best interests, or the people of any other country for that matter.
But feel free to bicker about the evil Democrats or the noble Republicans while the world crumbles around your ears. And don't forget to sign your children up for the military to fight the wars you inexplicably support because I won't.
Posted by:
John Genovese at October 23, 2006 01:01 AM
John,
You do realise that children aren't signed up for the military, right? The people who sign themselves up are adult men and women who know what they are getting in to - especially the million and a half who have signed up in the past five years. Not only are they adults - they are the very best this country has to offer.
Other than that - we're still waiting for a critic of the war to come on here and offer something other than DNC/MoveOn talking points about the effort...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at October 23, 2006 01:30 AM
Freedom,
We'd have to ask the smartest Democrat - but she's in the Senate and if braines were dynamite, she couldn't blow her nose.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at October 23, 2006 01:54 AM
Posted by: Freedom1 at October 23, 2006 02:03 AM
John,
The GWOT is a battle for the preservation of Western Civilization. Reason enough, for you?
Muslim "youths" torching Paris suburbs again, still...French Intifada: Passenger Bus Attacked
TheAge.com.au: A band of up to 30 youths forced passengers out of a bus in a southern Paris suburb in broad daylight, set it on fire and then stoned firefighters who came to the rescue, a police official said.
Police cordoned off the neighbourhood in Grigny, in the Essonne region, after the attack, which came five days before France marks the one-year anniversary of the start of three weeks of fiery riots by poor suburban youths.
District police chief Jean-Francois Papineau called Sunday’s bus attack “deliberate”. He said the vehicle was forced to stop at a road block at about 2 pm. Two youths then entered the back of the bus to clear out passengers before dousing it with petrol and setting it ablaze. The blaze gutted the bus and spread to four parked cars, Papineau told LCI television.
When firefighters arrived, the youths began stoning them, he said. No-one was injured. At least one person was arrested. The local prefecture said nearly 30 youths were involved in the incident.
Posted by: Freedom1 at October 23, 2006 02:05 AM
French Police Face ‘Permanent Intifada'
(AP): EPINAY-SUR-SEINE, France - On a routine call, three unwitting police officers fell into a trap. A car darted out to block their path, and dozens of hooded youths surged out of the darkness to attack them with stones, bats and tear gas before fleeing. One officer was hospitalized.
The recent ambush was emblematic of what some officers say has become a near-perpetual and increasingly violent conflict between police and gangs in tough, largely immigrant French neighborhoods that were the scene of a three-week paroxysm of rioting last year.
One small police union claims officers are facing a “permanent intifada.” Police injuries have risen in the year since the wave of violence.
National police reported 2,458 cases of violence against officers in the first six months of the year, on pace to top the 4,246 cases recorded for all of 2005 and the 3,842 in 2004. Firefighters and rescue workers have also been targeted — and some now receive police escorts in such areas.
Posted by: Freedom1 at October 23, 2006 02:17 AM
John, why do I support the GOP administration? Well, son, because 1H8L1BS. Why do 1H8L1BS? Well, because they lie to the American people about who they are--they can't be who they are and win elections in the heartland.
So there you have it, Johnnie-boy. 1H8L1BS. RUAL1B? Then 1H8U2.
Have a nice day...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 23, 2006 05:04 AM
1H8L1BS
maybe you should follow those nice moral values all you neo-cons are always talking about and check just what Jesus said about hate.
And while you are supporting the troops, check out the voting records of some of those dear repubicians and democrats at IAVA.org.
Posted by: OhioGolfer at October 23, 2006 08:36 AM
Have intellectual lightweights like John ever read the Iraq Resolution? If they had they wouldn't ask such rediculous questions.
Posted by:
CJ at October 23, 2006 08:53 AM
John Genovese,
"I would like to hear one, just ONE Bush supporter put aside party lines and give me one reason why the current administration (and their war) deserves any more support from the American people."
Support for the war? First let's look at the reasons we went to war: The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (signed into law, by the way, by President Clinton). The vote was 360 - 38 in the House. It was passed by Unanimous Consent in the Senate.
Then lets look at The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. The vote was 296 - 133 in the House and 77 - 23 in the Senate. It seems to have many of the same reasons as the Iraq Liberation Act. How can this be? I though the Bush Administration manipulated the intelligence and reasons to intervene in Iraq.
Now for the reasons the current administration deserves our support.
(1) We are at war. Liberals may deny it, but we are. It it not only un-patriotic to try to undermine the Adminstration in a time of war, but it is un-American and borderline treasonous.
(2) There have been no attacks on US soil since 9/11. They must be doing something right, even if liberals refuse to admit it. The terrorists only have to get it right once to hit us again, we have to get it right 100% of the time to stop them. So far, we are batting 1.000 for the past five seasons.
(3) We are using every available tool to detect and stop terrorist, while maintaining American civil rights. The left may deny it, but there hasn't been a single case of a violation of an American's civil rights as a result of the use of the Patriot Act, Terrorist Surveillance Program, the SWIFT Pprogram, or other counter-terrorism program.s Yet, the liberals and the MSM feel it is their duty to expose highly classified intelligence programs, claiming they are protecting American's civil rights. They are not. They are hampering our efforts to keep Americans safe and are helping the terrorists. Let me clue you in to something, the terrorists do not respect your civil rights. They only want to kill you, me, our neighbors, all of us. You can't enforce your civil rights when you are dead.
(4) Sustained Economic Growth: Even with an inherited recession, the effects of 9/11, corporate scandals, and the Dot Com Bubble bursting, we have experienced 12 straight quarters of 3-4% GDP growth. Again, liberals will deny it, but we are in the midst of one of the strongest periods of economic growth in our history. We have a record stock market, low un-employment, low interest rates, low inflation, and record home ownership. Yet liberals characterize this as the worst economy since the Great Depression. Since they are viewing it from an alternate universe, where everything is 180 degrees out of phase, it probably looks like we are going in the tank, when actually the economy is booming.
(5) Tax cuts for everyone. Again, liberals are in a state of denial. They deny that the 2003 tax cuts have benefited the poor and middle class. Millions of lower income earners were taken off the tax rolls completely. Some even got a tax refund even though they paid no taxes. Only in America. Although the middle income earners tax cut was small, many had their tax burden cut in half.
The real disconnect is with the upper income earners. Had their income remained stagnate, they would have paid far less in taxes. But their income grew, resulting in them paying even more in income taxes. This is borne out in the shift in the tax burden towards the upper income earners and the record tax revenues. Do you realize that the top 50% of all wage earners pay over 96% of income taxes, the top 25% pay nearly 84% of income taxes, and the top 5% pay nearly 55% of the income taxes? I didn't think so.
There you have five good reasons to support the President. You got five for the price of one. Only in America.
Posted by: A-10 at October 23, 2006 09:32 AM
While I am a Democrat here, I don't always, in fact sometime never, support those organizations that some attempt to attach to the democratic party. An example is PETA. But nevertheles I will enjoy seeing/hearing PETA get outraged at the republican party after Nov. 7th. Hell, how many crows must die just so all the republicans can eat them. PETA will be in such "state'!!!!!
Posted by: OhioGolfer at October 23, 2006 10:08 AM
A-10
Do you think any of that matters to vicious America haters like John, Jim, Wade, Orange, Aarontime, and the rest of the trolls here?
Posted by:
CJ at October 23, 2006 10:08 AM
1H8L1BS: "1H8L1BS. RUAL1B? Then 1H8U2."
Come on now, didn't you hear? It's only the liberals who hate. You're supposed to be happy. Get with the program. Lol!
Posted by: Ricorun at October 23, 2006 10:32 AM
A-10, great post. I'm sticking that one in the archives along with the best of Almiranta.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 23, 2006 11:30 AM
BTW, if you want a really good laugh, check out John Genovese's website.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 23, 2006 11:33 AM
Retired Spook,
I'd be honored to be in her category.
Posted by: A-10 at October 23, 2006 11:35 AM
OhioGoofhead,
Sorry, jerk, but I'll be goin' to hell a happy man if hatin' you libs gets me sent there. Maybe we can all rot in hell together--you, me, Rico, and Johnnie-boy...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 23, 2006 07:13 PM
I don't hate you 1H8L1BS. I forgive you.
Kisses for you and Jeremiah.
Posted by: raker13 at October 23, 2006 09:14 PM
I hate to say it, but minimum wage polls very well, always, with Republicans, Democrats, and everyone else. The only groups it doesn't poll well with are small business owners and economists. People don't really think too hard about what a minimum wage really means, but people do support raising it, almost always. It's baffling, but that's the way it is.
Incidentally, I think it has something to do with wanting to reward actual work (sort of welfare for people who actually have jobs). People don't think of higher consumer prices and fewer jobs, they just think that anyone with an honest job ought to make a little more each month. And also, most Americans, even Republicans, held a minimum wage job (or close to it), so people have sympathy. Misguided, short-sighted, counterproductive sympathy, but sympathy nonetheless.
Posted by:
Will Franklin at October 23, 2006 09:17 PM
Run along back to your mommy now, raker.
The rent on your pacifier has ran out.
Posted by: Jeremiah at October 24, 2006 12:39 AM
All I see here is people placing blame on "liberals" for any problems in America. I'm not looking for scapegoats but I understand if some people are. Bottom line: if the Iraq war is so just and necessary, enlist and go fight it.
And CJ, I may be an "intellectual lightweight" but I can spell the word ridiculous.
Posted by:
John Genovese at October 24, 2006 01:09 AM
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.
Posted by: OhioGolfer at October 24, 2006 09:17 AM
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.
Posted by: OhioGolfer at October 24, 2006 09:27 AM
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.
Posted by: OhioGolfer at October 24, 2006 09:28 AM
"We're gonna wallop them on November 7th - it'll be like watching Wile E. Coyote run off a cliff..."-MN
LoL! Who's got the ACME explosives?
it'll be like watching Wile E. Coyote run off a cliff...
LOL! That was a good one...and then they'll look up and see the big boulder coming down to squash them!LOL :-D
Jeremiah
I would like to hear one, just ONE Bush supporter put aside party lines and give me one reason why the current administration (and their war) deserves any more support from the American people. I know we went there to get the WMDs, right? Or no, it was to spread democracy to the Middle East, that sounds about right. Or to oust Saddam, since GHWB left him in power after the Gulf War.
No matter what anyone says, as long as they are a Republican you believe it without any hesitation. Eventually I hope that you realize that 99% of politicians are corrupt millionaires who don't have the American people in their best interests, or the people of any other country for that matter.
But feel free to bicker about the evil Democrats or the noble Republicans while the world crumbles around your ears. And don't forget to sign your children up for the military to fight the wars you inexplicably support because I won't.
John,
You do realise that children aren't signed up for the military, right? The people who sign themselves up are adult men and women who know what they are getting in to - especially the million and a half who have signed up in the past five years. Not only are they adults - they are the very best this country has to offer.
Other than that - we're still waiting for a critic of the war to come on here and offer something other than DNC/MoveOn talking points about the effort...
Freedom,
We'd have to ask the smartest Democrat - but she's in the Senate and if braines were dynamite, she couldn't blow her nose.
Bwahaha, Mark!
:P
John,
The GWOT is a battle for the preservation of Western Civilization. Reason enough, for you?
Muslim "youths" torching Paris suburbs again, still...French Intifada: Passenger Bus Attacked
TheAge.com.au: A band of up to 30 youths forced passengers out of a bus in a southern Paris suburb in broad daylight, set it on fire and then stoned firefighters who came to the rescue, a police official said.
Police cordoned off the neighbourhood in Grigny, in the Essonne region, after the attack, which came five days before France marks the one-year anniversary of the start of three weeks of fiery riots by poor suburban youths.
District police chief Jean-Francois Papineau called Sunday’s bus attack “deliberate”. He said the vehicle was forced to stop at a road block at about 2 pm. Two youths then entered the back of the bus to clear out passengers before dousing it with petrol and setting it ablaze. The blaze gutted the bus and spread to four parked cars, Papineau told LCI television.
When firefighters arrived, the youths began stoning them, he said. No-one was injured. At least one person was arrested. The local prefecture said nearly 30 youths were involved in the incident.
French Police Face ‘Permanent Intifada'
(AP): EPINAY-SUR-SEINE, France - On a routine call, three unwitting police officers fell into a trap. A car darted out to block their path, and dozens of hooded youths surged out of the darkness to attack them with stones, bats and tear gas before fleeing. One officer was hospitalized.
The recent ambush was emblematic of what some officers say has become a near-perpetual and increasingly violent conflict between police and gangs in tough, largely immigrant French neighborhoods that were the scene of a three-week paroxysm of rioting last year.
One small police union claims officers are facing a “permanent intifada.” Police injuries have risen in the year since the wave of violence.
National police reported 2,458 cases of violence against officers in the first six months of the year, on pace to top the 4,246 cases recorded for all of 2005 and the 3,842 in 2004. Firefighters and rescue workers have also been targeted — and some now receive police escorts in such areas.
John, why do I support the GOP administration? Well, son, because 1H8L1BS. Why do 1H8L1BS? Well, because they lie to the American people about who they are--they can't be who they are and win elections in the heartland.
So there you have it, Johnnie-boy. 1H8L1BS. RUAL1B? Then 1H8U2.
Have a nice day...
1H8L1BS
maybe you should follow those nice moral values all you neo-cons are always talking about and check just what Jesus said about hate.
And while you are supporting the troops, check out the voting records of some of those dear repubicians and democrats at IAVA.org.
Have intellectual lightweights like John ever read the Iraq Resolution? If they had they wouldn't ask such rediculous questions.
John Genovese,
"I would like to hear one, just ONE Bush supporter put aside party lines and give me one reason why the current administration (and their war) deserves any more support from the American people."
Support for the war? First let's look at the reasons we went to war: The Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 (signed into law, by the way, by President Clinton). The vote was 360 - 38 in the House. It was passed by Unanimous Consent in the Senate.
Then lets look at The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002. The vote was 296 - 133 in the House and 77 - 23 in the Senate. It seems to have many of the same reasons as the Iraq Liberation Act. How can this be? I though the Bush Administration manipulated the intelligence and reasons to intervene in Iraq.
Now for the reasons the current administration deserves our support.
(1) We are at war. Liberals may deny it, but we are. It it not only un-patriotic to try to undermine the Adminstration in a time of war, but it is un-American and borderline treasonous.
(2) There have been no attacks on US soil since 9/11. They must be doing something right, even if liberals refuse to admit it. The terrorists only have to get it right once to hit us again, we have to get it right 100% of the time to stop them. So far, we are batting 1.000 for the past five seasons.
(3) We are using every available tool to detect and stop terrorist, while maintaining American civil rights. The left may deny it, but there hasn't been a single case of a violation of an American's civil rights as a result of the use of the Patriot Act, Terrorist Surveillance Program, the SWIFT Pprogram, or other counter-terrorism program.s Yet, the liberals and the MSM feel it is their duty to expose highly classified intelligence programs, claiming they are protecting American's civil rights. They are not. They are hampering our efforts to keep Americans safe and are helping the terrorists. Let me clue you in to something, the terrorists do not respect your civil rights. They only want to kill you, me, our neighbors, all of us. You can't enforce your civil rights when you are dead.
(4) Sustained Economic Growth: Even with an inherited recession, the effects of 9/11, corporate scandals, and the Dot Com Bubble bursting, we have experienced 12 straight quarters of 3-4% GDP growth. Again, liberals will deny it, but we are in the midst of one of the strongest periods of economic growth in our history. We have a record stock market, low un-employment, low interest rates, low inflation, and record home ownership. Yet liberals characterize this as the worst economy since the Great Depression. Since they are viewing it from an alternate universe, where everything is 180 degrees out of phase, it probably looks like we are going in the tank, when actually the economy is booming.
(5) Tax cuts for everyone. Again, liberals are in a state of denial. They deny that the 2003 tax cuts have benefited the poor and middle class. Millions of lower income earners were taken off the tax rolls completely. Some even got a tax refund even though they paid no taxes. Only in America. Although the middle income earners tax cut was small, many had their tax burden cut in half.
The real disconnect is with the upper income earners. Had their income remained stagnate, they would have paid far less in taxes. But their income grew, resulting in them paying even more in income taxes. This is borne out in the shift in the tax burden towards the upper income earners and the record tax revenues. Do you realize that the top 50% of all wage earners pay over 96% of income taxes, the top 25% pay nearly 84% of income taxes, and the top 5% pay nearly 55% of the income taxes? I didn't think so.
There you have five good reasons to support the President. You got five for the price of one. Only in America.
While I am a Democrat here, I don't always, in fact sometime never, support those organizations that some attempt to attach to the democratic party. An example is PETA. But nevertheles I will enjoy seeing/hearing PETA get outraged at the republican party after Nov. 7th. Hell, how many crows must die just so all the republicans can eat them. PETA will be in such "state'!!!!!
A-10
Do you think any of that matters to vicious America haters like John, Jim, Wade, Orange, Aarontime, and the rest of the trolls here?
1H8L1BS: "1H8L1BS. RUAL1B? Then 1H8U2."
Come on now, didn't you hear? It's only the liberals who hate. You're supposed to be happy. Get with the program. Lol!
A-10, great post. I'm sticking that one in the archives along with the best of Almiranta.
BTW, if you want a really good laugh, check out John Genovese's website.
Retired Spook,
I'd be honored to be in her category.
OhioGoofhead,
Sorry, jerk, but I'll be goin' to hell a happy man if hatin' you libs gets me sent there. Maybe we can all rot in hell together--you, me, Rico, and Johnnie-boy...
I don't hate you 1H8L1BS. I forgive you.
Kisses for you and Jeremiah.
I hate to say it, but minimum wage polls very well, always, with Republicans, Democrats, and everyone else. The only groups it doesn't poll well with are small business owners and economists. People don't really think too hard about what a minimum wage really means, but people do support raising it, almost always. It's baffling, but that's the way it is.
Incidentally, I think it has something to do with wanting to reward actual work (sort of welfare for people who actually have jobs). People don't think of higher consumer prices and fewer jobs, they just think that anyone with an honest job ought to make a little more each month. And also, most Americans, even Republicans, held a minimum wage job (or close to it), so people have sympathy. Misguided, short-sighted, counterproductive sympathy, but sympathy nonetheless.
Run along back to your mommy now, raker.
The rent on your pacifier has ran out.
All I see here is people placing blame on "liberals" for any problems in America. I'm not looking for scapegoats but I understand if some people are. Bottom line: if the Iraq war is so just and necessary, enlist and go fight it.
And CJ, I may be an "intellectual lightweight" but I can spell the word ridiculous.
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.
Its really a shame that some here (1H8L1BS) can't carry out a discussion without namecalling. Maybe it shows the absence to the ability to think critically and hence only parrot all the venom that the far right throws out daily
MY HANDLE IS OHIOGOLFER and you show your lack common courtesy when you attempt to diminish what I say by using anything else.