Matt, it may well be that the MSM and Dems are trying to say that the President is a 'liability to Republicans in the races', and I wouldn't doubt
their continued lies to perpetuate this like many other things they do on a daily basis. But, that said, I caught Gov. Schwarznegger on the Leftie/
Jay Leno show the other night, and also Drudge had
the report on how the Gov.made it a point to distance himself from the President. I found this
to be so very irritating, that I both called the Gov's. office, and sent him a long email. In it, I asked since this is the second time, he is trying to 'pander for the lib voter and the Holly-woodhead types, what sense of loyalty does he have
to the Republican Party, IF, in fact, he really IS
a Republican. anyway, you get the message on his
attitude and you and other posters can look up what he said on Drudge. It was disgusting, as he
made reference to 'being linked to the President, is like trying to link him to the Oscars', or something like that. These "Rogue Republicans, need to get their act together, and stand as a party UNITED, unlike the Demoncrats, that are so divisive among themselves-who would eat each other
if they had to. Check it out for yourselves, since the Gov. was acting more like his wife's party, than his own.
Posted by: Jo at October 13, 2006 02:45 PM
Matt, it may well be that the MSM and Dems are trying to say that the President is a 'liability to Republicans in the races', and I wouldn't doubt
their continued lies to perpetuate this like many other things they do on a daily basis. But, that said, I caught Gov. Schwarznegger on the Leftie/
Jay Leno show the other night, and also Drudge had
the report on how the Gov.made it a point to distance himself from the President. I found this
to be so very irritating, that I both called the Gov's. office, and sent him a long email. In it, I asked since this is the second time, he is trying to 'pander for the lib voter and the Holly-woodhead types, what sense of loyalty does he have
to the Republican Party, IF, in fact, he really IS
a Republican. anyway, you get the message on his
attitude and you and other posters can look up what he said on Drudge. It was disgusting, as he
made reference to 'being linked to the President, is like trying to link him to the Oscars', or something like that. These "Rogue Republicans, need to get their act together, and stand as a party UNITED, unlike the Demoncrats, that are so divisive among themselves-who would eat each other
if they had to. Check it out for yourselves, since the Gov. was acting more like his wife's party, than his own.
Posted by: Jo at October 13, 2006 02:47 PM
Matt, you can’t do that. Facts only confuse the left.
Posted by: DM at October 13, 2006 02:57 PM
The Right attacks the Left. The Left attacks the Right. The media purposefully stokes the partisan fires. The nation grows more and more divided.
We didn't evolve to this point. We were pushed in this direction. This is all by design. Insidious, incomprehensible design.
Posted by: John at October 13, 2006 03:47 PM
I have watched Bush in press conferences. I am sorry but either your president is stupid or his speech prep guys are stupid or both. Or perhaps the speech writers and the prep guys are closet Democrats who are doing a great job of making Bush look so bad. Perhaps another left wing conspiracy, eh?
Really, are you knuckleheads not a least a bit embarrassed by this poor excuse of a world leader? You know, a staffer working for the Canadian Prime Minister Chrétien around the time of the impending Iraqi invasion, called Bush a moron. She lost her job. Turns out she was sooooo right but as it often happens, the messengers of the truth are often stoned. Sad but true.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 13, 2006 06:56 PM
What do a Don mistress choker Sherwood and George Mecaca Allen have to lose? Those warm Republican family values.
Bush is at 35% and that is what these two will be after a little Bush wears off on them.
Posted by: Josh Keaton at October 13, 2006 07:28 PM
Canuck, just like many guys who have cheated on their wives could relate to Clinton, many of us who get tongue-tied in front of a crowd can relate to Bush. His lack of communications skills only seems to bother Liberals.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 13, 2006 07:53 PM
Spook:
If it was just a case of being nervous in front of crowds, yeah, one can look stupid. But I am looking at the whole package as well and it only confirms my assessment.
However I must say I am impressed by your restraint in your comment. I expected a 'going postal' response from the Bush backers. Ah, maybe I will get that from some of the others.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 13, 2006 08:04 PM
No Cannuck, we just discount the fact that you are posting this. If being extremely great at talking was all it took to be a great president, any ol' salesman could do it. Maybe he just has a lot on his mind, and since it is processing more than most libs can even grasp, he stutters over the silly questions he gets.
Posted by: kjstrouble at October 13, 2006 09:50 PM
Bush, a lot on his mind? Really!!
You know, you knuckleheads crack me up.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 13, 2006 10:01 PM
Now, Canuckgay, we know you miss ol' Slicky Blue Dress--now that man could orate. Just ask Monica.
Nobody's going to go postal on you; months of your stupidity have shown us all what a moron you are. Now run along, little Canuckgay--CO and axis are keeping your bed warm for you...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 13, 2006 10:19 PM
Bush was out stumping for some congressmen in Illinois, and he brought up Pelosi. It appears that SanFran Nan has recently revealed that she "loves tax cuts." The prez said she "must be a secret admirer of tax cuts." He then listed his tax cuts, all of which Pelosi voted "no" on. Bush then said "If that's what the Democrats mean by love, then I'd hate to see their hate."
I paraphrased, but you get my drift.
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 13, 2006 10:26 PM
You know things are bad when the sitting president needs to campaign nearly as hard as he did during the presidential election. He knows that he has done things that are illegal and morally reprehensible and if the democrats get in, his ass is going to end up in prison like so many of his GOP collegues.
Posted by: axis at October 13, 2006 11:07 PM
Axis definitely knows illegal and morally reprehensible... he's voted for candidates ALL his life that represent those two traits to a tee.
Nothing says stupid Canadian Scandals like the ruling Liberal Party illegally giving funds that are meant to fight separatism to a organization that then turns around and gives it to the Bloc Quebecois...
So how many Executive Branch officials in the Liberal Party government have been convicted versus the number of Bush Administration officials?
Posted by: wawilliyo at October 14, 2006 10:15 AM
Wawilliyo, excellect observation.
But I am looking at the whole package as well and it only confirms my assessment.
Canuck, on the outside chance that you're still monitoring this thread, I'm curious about your above statement. Do you think Bush is stupid because he does things with which you disagree or because you think he is not intelligent? I might remind you that most Conservatives believe that Bush is a genius compared to Algore (in terms of both inate intelligence and intellectual honesty), and Bush got better grades at Yale than Kerry. And "stupid" does not get you an MBA from Harvard no matter who your daddy is.
I think a lot of the way you and most Liberals feel about Bush stems from the fact that there is a cottage industry dedicated to ferreting out virtually every misstatement and mangling of words that Bush has ever committed. I don't have the links anymore, but Gore, over his political career, has been every bit as guilty of verbal faux pas as Bush has. They just haven't received nearly the media scrutiny.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 14, 2006 11:33 AM
Canuck, I might add one more thing. I never considered Bill Clinton "stupid", but sodomizing a 22-year-old intern with a cigar and ejaculating on her dress (in the oval office) has got to be about the stupidest thing ANY American President has ever done.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 14, 2006 11:47 AM
Republicans aren't distancing themselves from Bush and the entire Republican party, huh?
Michael Steele (R), Pennslyvania:
- website doesn't mention he's a Republican
- On the Iraq war: "It didn't work. . . . We didn't prepare for the peace."
- On the response to Hurricane Katrina: "A monumental failure of government."
- On his desire for Bush to campaign for him:"Well, you know, I don't know. To be honest with you, probably not."
Rick Santorum (R), Pennslyvania:
- did not show up a a Pennslyvania Veterans' Day speech by the president
- brags in campaign ad "And the White House probably called me a lot of things when I fought their efforts to cut Amtrak funding"
Deborah Price (R), Ohio
- campaign ad describes her as an "independent" who "stood up to her own party"
Jim Gerlacy (R), Pennsylvania
- "When I believe President Bush is right, I'm behind him. But when I think he's wrong, I let him know that, too."
Mark Kennedy (R), Pennslyvania
- "I'm a Republican. On issues like taxes and spending, I vote like it. But on other issues, I cross party lines."
- On the presidents stand on stem cell research: "He's drawn a line in the sand that's not pro-science"
Clay Shaw (R), Florida
- "I represent the state of Florida, not a political party."
Schwarzenegger (R), California
- "To link me to George Bush Is like linking me to an Oscar"
Posted by: jonas at October 14, 2006 03:20 PM
Let me see if I have this straight... with three weeks to go before what most people in the know perceive as one of the most crucial elections in more than a decade, Pres Bush is going out to stump for two candidates. And that's somehow an indication that Republicans are NOT distancing themselves from Bush? That's an interesting bit of logic.
Posted by: Ricorun at October 14, 2006 08:12 PM
Yeah, Spook, I am still monitoring. Now your comment “I might remind you that most Conservatives believe that Bush is a genius compared to Al Gore (in terms of both inate intelligence and intellectual honesty”.
Well that really takes the cake. Puuleeze!! Surely you cannot be serious. If that is true, that Conservatives consider Bush a genius, will I am speechless with shock. I would like to think that there are intelligent Conservatives. And there are intelligent conservatives and none of them can possibility consider Bush smart and fit to be president. He is simply a puppet.
BTW, I have never defended Clinton and his follies. Sexual habits and intelligence are totally seperate things. Even intelligent men often allow their penis lead them into doing reckless and stupid things.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 14, 2006 10:35 PM
No one has to actually distance themselves from Bush. All that is needed is for the lamestream media to claim it, as they are doing, to mislead the sheeples.
That's what our lamestream media does best, mislead to bolster the Dems chances.
Posted by:
Lew Waters at October 15, 2006 12:49 AM
I was worried when I woke up today, hearing on the television news that President Bush was going to campaign for these two GOP candidates, in tight races... especially one of them being a statewide race in Virginia.
A year ago, in the Virginia gubernatorial election, our College Republicans organization sent members to assist with that race. There was speculation, a few days before, that President Bush was going to make a stop there... One of the people coordinating that trip however, told me that it may not happen, because the candidates were within a few points of each other (and the natural risk of President Bush's visit costing Jerry Kilgore votes).
As it turned out, the President did come, and our candidate lost by a few points.
If I were in a contested race this November, I would probably be "distancing myself from Bush" too.
Posted by:
Aakash at October 15, 2006 01:24 AM
jonas, looks like you've presented us with a logical list of examples of our party and it's freedom to dissent, unlike your kool-aid party. Joe Lieberman, anyone?
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at October 15, 2006 07:40 AM
If that is true, that Conservatives consider Bush a genius, well I am speechless with shock.
Canuck, you repeated what I said, and then you still misstate it. I too am "speechless with shock", heh. But, then, I would have expected no less from a Lib, and a Candian Lib at that. It's a good thing you're not allowed to vote in our elections.
I dont know anyone that believes that George W. Bush is a genius, but to recognize that he is more intelligent than Algore is just a no-brainer (pun intended). If you don't believe that, you obviously have never really listened to Algore. The guy is a first class dufas.
Posted by: Retired Spook at October 15, 2006 10:45 AM
1H8LIBS,
The original post claimed that Republicans are not distancing themselves from Bush. I presented a list of examples of Republicans distancing themselves from Bush and the Republican party.
If I hear you correctly, you're claiming that Republicans are dissenting, not distancing. I agree dissenting is not always distancing, but in these examples it's clear that Republicans are not simply disagreeing (dissenting) with Bush, they are drawing distinction (distancing) between themselves and Bush.
A couple examples:
- "To link me to George Bush Is like linking me to an Oscar". If this were simple disagreement, you could tell me on what issue Arnold disagrees with Bush. That's not the case. The purpose of this comment was to separate Arnold from Bush.
- Michael Steele on his desire for Bush to campaign for him: "Well, you know, I don't know. To be honest with you, probably not." Again, this is not disagreement about an issue. This is creating distance between the candidate and Bush.
The original claim that Republicans are not distancing themselves from Bush is untrue.
Posted by: jonas at October 15, 2006 10:56 AM
Spook:
--Admittedly I saw Gore only 3 tmes on TV. The Daily Show, Jay Leno and some other show. He sounded articulate and intelligent to me and certainly had more polish and smarts than Bush. But I guess that is a matter of opinion as you and I look at the same thing and our brains draw different conclusions.
Posted by: Canuckguy at October 15, 2006 03:44 PM
Matt, it may well be that the MSM and Dems are trying to say that the President is a 'liability to Republicans in the races', and I wouldn't doubt
their continued lies to perpetuate this like many other things they do on a daily basis. But, that said, I caught Gov. Schwarznegger on the Leftie/
Jay Leno show the other night, and also Drudge had
the report on how the Gov.made it a point to distance himself from the President. I found this
to be so very irritating, that I both called the Gov's. office, and sent him a long email. In it, I asked since this is the second time, he is trying to 'pander for the lib voter and the Holly-woodhead types, what sense of loyalty does he have
to the Republican Party, IF, in fact, he really IS
a Republican. anyway, you get the message on his
attitude and you and other posters can look up what he said on Drudge. It was disgusting, as he
made reference to 'being linked to the President, is like trying to link him to the Oscars', or something like that. These "Rogue Republicans, need to get their act together, and stand as a party UNITED, unlike the Demoncrats, that are so divisive among themselves-who would eat each other
if they had to. Check it out for yourselves, since the Gov. was acting more like his wife's party, than his own.
Matt, it may well be that the MSM and Dems are trying to say that the President is a 'liability to Republicans in the races', and I wouldn't doubt
their continued lies to perpetuate this like many other things they do on a daily basis. But, that said, I caught Gov. Schwarznegger on the Leftie/
Jay Leno show the other night, and also Drudge had
the report on how the Gov.made it a point to distance himself from the President. I found this
to be so very irritating, that I both called the Gov's. office, and sent him a long email. In it, I asked since this is the second time, he is trying to 'pander for the lib voter and the Holly-woodhead types, what sense of loyalty does he have
to the Republican Party, IF, in fact, he really IS
a Republican. anyway, you get the message on his
attitude and you and other posters can look up what he said on Drudge. It was disgusting, as he
made reference to 'being linked to the President, is like trying to link him to the Oscars', or something like that. These "Rogue Republicans, need to get their act together, and stand as a party UNITED, unlike the Demoncrats, that are so divisive among themselves-who would eat each other
if they had to. Check it out for yourselves, since the Gov. was acting more like his wife's party, than his own.
Matt, you can’t do that. Facts only confuse the left.
The Right attacks the Left. The Left attacks the Right. The media purposefully stokes the partisan fires. The nation grows more and more divided.
We didn't evolve to this point. We were pushed in this direction. This is all by design. Insidious, incomprehensible design.
I have watched Bush in press conferences. I am sorry but either your president is stupid or his speech prep guys are stupid or both. Or perhaps the speech writers and the prep guys are closet Democrats who are doing a great job of making Bush look so bad. Perhaps another left wing conspiracy, eh?
Really, are you knuckleheads not a least a bit embarrassed by this poor excuse of a world leader? You know, a staffer working for the Canadian Prime Minister Chrétien around the time of the impending Iraqi invasion, called Bush a moron. She lost her job. Turns out she was sooooo right but as it often happens, the messengers of the truth are often stoned. Sad but true.
What do a Don mistress choker Sherwood and George Mecaca Allen have to lose? Those warm Republican family values.
Bush is at 35% and that is what these two will be after a little Bush wears off on them.
Canuck, just like many guys who have cheated on their wives could relate to Clinton, many of us who get tongue-tied in front of a crowd can relate to Bush. His lack of communications skills only seems to bother Liberals.
Spook:
If it was just a case of being nervous in front of crowds, yeah, one can look stupid. But I am looking at the whole package as well and it only confirms my assessment.
However I must say I am impressed by your restraint in your comment. I expected a 'going postal' response from the Bush backers. Ah, maybe I will get that from some of the others.
No Cannuck, we just discount the fact that you are posting this. If being extremely great at talking was all it took to be a great president, any ol' salesman could do it. Maybe he just has a lot on his mind, and since it is processing more than most libs can even grasp, he stutters over the silly questions he gets.
Bush, a lot on his mind? Really!!
You know, you knuckleheads crack me up.
Now, Canuckgay, we know you miss ol' Slicky Blue Dress--now that man could orate. Just ask Monica.
Nobody's going to go postal on you; months of your stupidity have shown us all what a moron you are. Now run along, little Canuckgay--CO and axis are keeping your bed warm for you...
Bush was out stumping for some congressmen in Illinois, and he brought up Pelosi. It appears that SanFran Nan has recently revealed that she "loves tax cuts." The prez said she "must be a secret admirer of tax cuts." He then listed his tax cuts, all of which Pelosi voted "no" on. Bush then said "If that's what the Democrats mean by love, then I'd hate to see their hate."
I paraphrased, but you get my drift.
You know things are bad when the sitting president needs to campaign nearly as hard as he did during the presidential election. He knows that he has done things that are illegal and morally reprehensible and if the democrats get in, his ass is going to end up in prison like so many of his GOP collegues.
Axis definitely knows illegal and morally reprehensible... he's voted for candidates ALL his life that represent those two traits to a tee.
Nothing says stupid Canadian Scandals like the ruling Liberal Party illegally giving funds that are meant to fight separatism to a organization that then turns around and gives it to the Bloc Quebecois...
So how many Executive Branch officials in the Liberal Party government have been convicted versus the number of Bush Administration officials?
Wawilliyo, excellect observation.
But I am looking at the whole package as well and it only confirms my assessment.
Canuck, on the outside chance that you're still monitoring this thread, I'm curious about your above statement. Do you think Bush is stupid because he does things with which you disagree or because you think he is not intelligent? I might remind you that most Conservatives believe that Bush is a genius compared to Algore (in terms of both inate intelligence and intellectual honesty), and Bush got better grades at Yale than Kerry. And "stupid" does not get you an MBA from Harvard no matter who your daddy is.
I think a lot of the way you and most Liberals feel about Bush stems from the fact that there is a cottage industry dedicated to ferreting out virtually every misstatement and mangling of words that Bush has ever committed. I don't have the links anymore, but Gore, over his political career, has been every bit as guilty of verbal faux pas as Bush has. They just haven't received nearly the media scrutiny.
Canuck, I might add one more thing. I never considered Bill Clinton "stupid", but sodomizing a 22-year-old intern with a cigar and ejaculating on her dress (in the oval office) has got to be about the stupidest thing ANY American President has ever done.
Republicans aren't distancing themselves from Bush and the entire Republican party, huh?
Michael Steele (R), Pennslyvania:
- website doesn't mention he's a Republican
- On the Iraq war: "It didn't work. . . . We didn't prepare for the peace."
- On the response to Hurricane Katrina: "A monumental failure of government."
- On his desire for Bush to campaign for him:"Well, you know, I don't know. To be honest with you, probably not."
Rick Santorum (R), Pennslyvania:
- did not show up a a Pennslyvania Veterans' Day speech by the president
- brags in campaign ad "And the White House probably called me a lot of things when I fought their efforts to cut Amtrak funding"
Deborah Price (R), Ohio
- campaign ad describes her as an "independent" who "stood up to her own party"
Jim Gerlacy (R), Pennsylvania
- "When I believe President Bush is right, I'm behind him. But when I think he's wrong, I let him know that, too."
Mark Kennedy (R), Pennslyvania
- "I'm a Republican. On issues like taxes and spending, I vote like it. But on other issues, I cross party lines."
- On the presidents stand on stem cell research: "He's drawn a line in the sand that's not pro-science"
Clay Shaw (R), Florida
- "I represent the state of Florida, not a political party."
Schwarzenegger (R), California
- "To link me to George Bush Is like linking me to an Oscar"
Let me see if I have this straight... with three weeks to go before what most people in the know perceive as one of the most crucial elections in more than a decade, Pres Bush is going out to stump for two candidates. And that's somehow an indication that Republicans are NOT distancing themselves from Bush? That's an interesting bit of logic.
Yeah, Spook, I am still monitoring. Now your comment “I might remind you that most Conservatives believe that Bush is a genius compared to Al Gore (in terms of both inate intelligence and intellectual honesty”.
Well that really takes the cake. Puuleeze!! Surely you cannot be serious. If that is true, that Conservatives consider Bush a genius, will I am speechless with shock. I would like to think that there are intelligent Conservatives. And there are intelligent conservatives and none of them can possibility consider Bush smart and fit to be president. He is simply a puppet.
BTW, I have never defended Clinton and his follies. Sexual habits and intelligence are totally seperate things. Even intelligent men often allow their penis lead them into doing reckless and stupid things.
No one has to actually distance themselves from Bush. All that is needed is for the lamestream media to claim it, as they are doing, to mislead the sheeples.
That's what our lamestream media does best, mislead to bolster the Dems chances.
I was worried when I woke up today, hearing on the television news that President Bush was going to campaign for these two GOP candidates, in tight races... especially one of them being a statewide race in Virginia.
A year ago, in the Virginia gubernatorial election, our College Republicans organization sent members to assist with that race. There was speculation, a few days before, that President Bush was going to make a stop there... One of the people coordinating that trip however, told me that it may not happen, because the candidates were within a few points of each other (and the natural risk of President Bush's visit costing Jerry Kilgore votes).
As it turned out, the President did come, and our candidate lost by a few points.
If I were in a contested race this November, I would probably be "distancing myself from Bush" too.
jonas, looks like you've presented us with a logical list of examples of our party and it's freedom to dissent, unlike your kool-aid party. Joe Lieberman, anyone?
If that is true, that Conservatives consider Bush a genius, well I am speechless with shock.
Canuck, you repeated what I said, and then you still misstate it. I too am "speechless with shock", heh. But, then, I would have expected no less from a Lib, and a Candian Lib at that. It's a good thing you're not allowed to vote in our elections.
I dont know anyone that believes that George W. Bush is a genius, but to recognize that he is more intelligent than Algore is just a no-brainer (pun intended). If you don't believe that, you obviously have never really listened to Algore. The guy is a first class dufas.
1H8LIBS,
The original post claimed that Republicans are not distancing themselves from Bush. I presented a list of examples of Republicans distancing themselves from Bush and the Republican party.
If I hear you correctly, you're claiming that Republicans are dissenting, not distancing. I agree dissenting is not always distancing, but in these examples it's clear that Republicans are not simply disagreeing (dissenting) with Bush, they are drawing distinction (distancing) between themselves and Bush.
A couple examples:
- "To link me to George Bush Is like linking me to an Oscar". If this were simple disagreement, you could tell me on what issue Arnold disagrees with Bush. That's not the case. The purpose of this comment was to separate Arnold from Bush.
- Michael Steele on his desire for Bush to campaign for him: "Well, you know, I don't know. To be honest with you, probably not." Again, this is not disagreement about an issue. This is creating distance between the candidate and Bush.
The original claim that Republicans are not distancing themselves from Bush is untrue.
Spook:
--Admittedly I saw Gore only 3 tmes on TV. The Daily Show, Jay Leno and some other show. He sounded articulate and intelligent to me and certainly had more polish and smarts than Bush. But I guess that is a matter of opinion as you and I look at the same thing and our brains draw different conclusions.