I don't pay attention to polls all that much. But just judging from the evidence you present, Leo, I think one could safely conclude that one thing he's not afraid of is getting re-elected.

At least if all the stuff about Murtha presented on this site is true, there's no way he should be so arrogant. What's up with that? Is Irey totally incompetent or something?

The more Murtha is openly challenged in front of his own constituency, the more his constituency will know just what a loser he is. Irey is not incompetent; she is calling for a debate, and Murtha is refusing, simply because she is competent.

The last thing Murtha needs is for all of his deeds to be exposed locally. That's exactly what a debate would do.

And that's exactly what brought Daschle down in 2004.

Who do you prefer for majority speaker, Leo? Murtha or Pelosi? Me, I'm pulling for Kucinich. Or maybe Maxine Waters...

According to this poll, Murtha is clobbering Irey 50-37, so he's not going anywhere. Is it repugnant that someone who is this far ahead skip debates? Yep. Bush Sr did it to Clinton, until he started losing, and it enfuriated us libs. But hey, that's politics. He is clearly not afriad of her, if that is what Mark is insinuating.

And if Irey does win, we Dems will be the better for it. We need to get rid of him, and Reid. Pelosi and Hillary can stay, because they are good at herding cats. Thank God we got rid of McKinney, and I think my conservative friends will agree that the country is better off without her, even if it helped the Dems.

Now if we can only find someone who can beat McCain....

I have seen other polls having Murtha with a 55-45 lead. But polls are only that.

The pundits even had Kerry ahead of Bush in the middle of election day in 2004, and you know what happened then.

Remember that Murtha's district is 15 percent active and retired military (including family and friends, in a congressional district, that translates to around 120,000 reliable votes). With Murtha playing fast and loose with his defeatist rhetoric, not to mention that he threw fellow Marines under the bus with regard to Haditha, coupled with a lot of skeletons in his closet that are beginning to show their ugly faces, you can be sure that a lot of them are going to cast their vote away from Murtha's favor this election.

There are going to be a lot of votes that Murtha needs to make up for if he expects to win.

-Leo-

"The pundits even had Kerry ahead of Bush in the middle of election day in 2004, and you know what happened then."

Not the pundits - the exit polls. And, ooooh yeah, we all "know what happened then".

and the speaker will not debate his challenger either so... what do you say about that!!

Murtha should resign--he's clearly demented. Harry Reid-tard should resign--he's tied in with the mob. Nancy Pelosi should resign--she hangs out with NAMBLA types, then demands that Hastert resign for not "looking out for the children."

Culture of hypocrisy...

"Murtha should resign--he's clearly demented. Harry Reid-tard should resign--he's tied in with the mob. Nancy Pelosi should resign--she hangs out with NAMBLA types, then demands that Hastert resign for not "looking out for the children.""

Any PROOF for these assertions? You know, evidence.

Leo,

I'm assuming you aren't stupid. So if that's the then you know exactly why Murtha won't debate. Because there is no reason to. If you were Murtha's campaign advisor what would you tell him to do? Be honest, which I know is hard for you to do.

Oh, and I know you won't actually answer this, I'm just amusing myself! LOL!

Any PROOF for these assertions? You know, evidence.

Yes. Look it up; I no longer cite references, when requested to do so by kooks. I could care less what you think, because you're no patriot, nor are you a direct threat to me...

"Yes. Look it up; I no longer cite references, when requested to do so by kooks. I could care less what you think, because you're no patriot, nor are you a direct threat to me..."

Well, I see where Bush addressed NAMBLA:

http://it-burns-when-i-pee.blogspot.com/2006/07/bush-finally-agrees-to-address-nambla.html

And Pelosi was once in a gay rights parade in which NAMBLA also marched. But MANY Republicans have been in the same room with David Duke. . .does that mean they support the KKK?

That story is total bulls**t, coulterfan. It also appears here

"In fact, Murtha refuses to engage in dialogue with anyone who disagrees with him, saying, and I quote, "Screw 'em."

Murtha should have said 'Go F*CK Yourself'. Again, This administration is starting to embrace Murtha's resolution, that they shot down so venomously, but calling it their own.

This isn't the half of it. Just watch, if the Dems win the House next month, Murtha is going to challenge Steny Hoyer for the leader position (with Pelosi at Speaker, of course).

Hoyer is fairly moderate as far as Dems go, well-liked but not a crazy anti-war nutjob. So you can see why they're not so enthusiastic about him...

There's a debate over at DailyKos which is pretty interesting, based on a Norm Ornstein column pointing out how corrupt Murtha is.

If they're smart they'd keep Hoyer where he is. So you can see why they might not...

"That story is total bulls**t, coulterfan. It also appears here"

I know, but it seems as 'factual' as the Pelosi/NAMBLA connection! Hey, at least there's a PHOTO of Bush at NAMBLA!

Now, where's the Pelosi/NAMBLA connection? She was IN a gay pride parade which also had a float from NAMBLA?!?!? That's it?!?!?

Like I said, LOTS of Republicans have been in the room with David Duke, but does that REALLY mean they support the KKK?

Spend all the money you can against Murtha it is just less to spend elswhere.

It is simple why he wont waste his time debating Irey. Because he is not running against her. He is actually running against the Texas Trash Swift-boating machine. At a debate Irey would be wired like a puppet with a microphone as Bush was in his debate with Kerry.

Murtha is a man's man. Silly boy Ken Mehlman and Cheney's corporate war machine can't touch him.

Who do you prefer for majority speaker, Leo? Murtha or Pelosi? Me, I'm pulling for Kucinich. Or maybe Maxine Waters...

Aairheadtime has created a new position in the House--Majority Speaker. Any four of the names he presented would do the trick--Pelosi and Kookcinich are kooks; Murtha's a senile old fart, and Maxine doesn't speak English.

Like I said, LOTS of Republicans have been in the room with David Duke, but does that REALLY mean they support the KKK?

There were lots of DemocRATs in the room with Duke, too--after all, the KKK is a creation of the DemoCRAP party. I take it you're a member?

"There were lots of DemocRATs in the room with Duke, too--after all, the KKK is a creation of the DemoCRAP party. I take it you're a member?"

Actually, it was a DixiecRAT organization. Most of the members became Republicans after the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Now it's mostly composed of George Allen and his friends in the CCC (praised by the KKK) and other Anti-American Confederacy supporters!

And I wouldn't be a member of anything that had Macaca Allen as a member. . .

Newt Gingrich, after winning Majority Leader in 1994:

"No Republican here should kid themselves about it. The greatest leaders in fighting for an integrated America in the twentieth century were in the Democratic party. The fact is, it was the liberal wing of the Democratic party that ended segregation."

The fact is, it was the liberal wing of the Democratic party that ended segregation.

The fact is, it was Republicans who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

Your turn, makookoo...

"The fact is, it was Republicans who passed the Civil Rights Act of 1964."

Was LBJ a Republican? What about Humphrey? The bill was first proposed by JFK to Congress members- I thought he was a Democrat! Although Republicans voted for the bill, it was the 'liberal' northern Republicans. The 'socially conservative' southern Republicans and Dixiecrats filibustered it (and most of the Dixiecrats later became Republicans)

At least Newt Gingrich is intellectually honest, something that seems unfashionable in today's Republican party.

And, BTW, it wasn't Democrats who "Started the KKK", it was the SOUTHERN WHITE CHRISTIANS! Even today, the KKK's web site is all about "White Christians" and I DOUBT that many of them vote Democratic.

They probably like George Macaca Allen, though. . .

Hey 0U812,

If you're REALLY interested in history (which I sort of doubt), it's interesting to read the history of both major parties. Early on, there were social conservatives in both parties (mainly MOST southern politicians were 'socially conservative Christians'). In contrast, many Northern politicians of both parties were 'socially liberal secularists' (the northern politicians who WERE socially conservative were Republican). It was the 'socially liberal secularists' who passed Civil Rights Legislation, as well as Women's Suffrage, etc.

Now, during the 60's 'Culture War,' during and shortly after the Civil Rights Legislation was being debated and passed, the 'Social Conservative Christians' gravitated to one party. Likewise, the 'Socially Liberal Secularists' gravitated to the other party. I think you know which group went to which party.

Even today, there are exceptions. Northern Republicans, in many case, are more liberal than some Southern Democrats. We call people like Guiliani (STRONGLY pro-choice, pro-gun control, pro-gay rights, etc) 'Socially Liberal'. Likewise, we call some southern Democrats (pro-life, anti-gay rights) 'Socially Conservative'. BUT, on a NATIONAL level, the Republicans are now 'Socially Conservatives' and Democrats are 'Socially Liberal'. This is why Goldwater was the last pro-choice Republican Presidential nominee and why GUILIANI, PATAKI, ETC WILL NOT BE THE REPUBLICAN'S NOMINEE! Likewise, there will NOT be a Pro-Life Democratic Presidential nominee.

I hope this helps explain it to you. It was the 'Socially Liberal Secularists' who passed Civil Rights Legislation (which party is that NOW?) and the 'Socially Conservative Christians' who started the KKK.

"When you say 'radical right' today, I think of these moneymaking ventures by fellows like Pat Robertson and others who are trying to take the Republican Party and make a religious organization out of it. If that ever happens, kiss politics goodbye." -Barry Goldwater

Perhaps he isn't wasting his time debating in his home district because he has a 25 point lead? Murtha KNOWS there is no way he loses in his own race so he's doing his part to help out other Dems in their races. Are you too dumb to figure that out?