Why wouldn't you support the folks who want to bestow Constitutional rights on you, even if you behead or drag their GI's behind a car?

As each day draws to a close, I consider the day's rhetoric as spewed out by the Democrats here in the U.S.A. It is becoming increasinly clear to me that they would rather have this nation lose the war on terror than allow the Republicans to stay in power. They are becoming increasinly coarse and stooping to lower and lower levels in their fervor to undermine this President and his policies. With less than 6 weeks to go before the election, I anticipate that the pace and tone to become increasingly aggressive and hurtful.

And why wouldn't al-Qaeda lay down (politically speaking) with these harlots of Washington, D.C.? After all, "Any enemy of my enemy is my friend..." so goes the saying. Al Qaeda just needs to keep implementing on the ground in Iraq and elsewhere what the Democrats are attempting to do politically here in Washington, D.C.

Shouldn't the title of this post be "The Democratic Wing of Al Qaeda," instead of "The Al Qaeda Wing of the Democratic Party?"

Come to think of it, Nancy Pelosi would look lovely in a burqua!! So would "She Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered..."

Come to think of it, Nancy Pelosi would look lovely in a burqua!! So would "She Whose Name Shall Not Be Uttered..."

They'd both look lovely swinging from a gallows...

Actually, itys even worse when conservatives cant tell the difference between terrorists and democrats.

But, the voters are not as stupid and so this angle won't get any traction either

Axis--the official apologist for democrat seditionists everywhere!

That's the way Matt!! Smack em' Good!!

Let's call them democrats what they TRULY ARE!

I've said it all along, they are TERRORISTS!

The only thing that will keep them at bay is by getting out the word about what their CORRUPT agendas are like, and Let's keep the message of Jesus Christ in the Schools and all public places.
Pray every day that God will bless us abundantly in His purpose, because young children need to have that necessary upbringing in order to know right from wrong, kindness from hatred, peace from turmoil! The Love of Jesus is what binds this Nation together! "We are One Nation Under God" and My, What a Great witness we can be for those who are lost in the sea of sin.

I know I go off on a big tirade that is probably hard to understand from skipping from one thing to the next, but here's the bottom line for me! When you go out tomorrow share with someone that you encounter in public about what Jesus done for them, and don't worry about getting the words right or anything Just ask God to give you the strength and courage and He will guide your thoughts as to how to witness to that person, step by step, I promise!!

I was banned from a liberal blog a few months back, because I was not allowed to share in any way the bible or any Christian thing on that blog, I go there from time to time to read what He says, because he really hates Christians and anything to do with Christians, and then I kinda of let the people here know what is going on so that we can do something about it, and not let him have his way with his hatred, but anyway...

Just recently, the person has written a thread on how to do away with Christianity in America, He wrote about how terrible he thinks Christians are, Well, My general thoughts on the man, is, He is Truly Sick to the third degree, the man is mentally disturbed, He wrote some really nasty things about Christians...

...And folks, this is why we(Christians) need to be standing up for what we believe, Get out there and campaign a little, Don't be afraid to take a little time to let the liberal blogs know what you think, Don't be afraid to voice your opinion in public!

Folks, I can't stress to you enough how dreadfully feared I am of what could happen should a liberal government take over this country! I mean liberals have so much hate for America and Christians it isn't funny, IT'S SCARY! and I'm heart attack serious folks!!!!!

I don't want to sound like a lunatic or anything but, It just the fact that, I don't want to see bunch of liberal dictators take control and take our Christian heritage symbolic of Christ in the public places away!!!!!!!!!!!

I seen on the news today about another school shooting in I think Colorado, But anyway, Don't you see what is happening to America because of liberalism? Liberalism is eating away slowly at the foundation this country is based upon, and it's time that Christians stand up and meand the the broken pieces back together, and put a picture of Jesus in every school!! See what happens is, when you take God out of the public places it is then a struggle from within, Ya see, It's not like our troops in Iraq fighting, It is a struggle against our own people, Born and bred in this land the United States of America! Your kin! My kin, everyones kin, from all over this Great country! That's what it's coming to if we don't get up and do something before our newly elected officials take their seats in Washington!

It's a race that can be won Victorious Only if you enter into the race and encourage others to have the same confidence to run with you!!

Let's pray for America in the weeks ahead!!

Jeremiah

P.S. I hope you can understand what I wrote, It's hard for me to sound understandable most of the time, I have many things on my mind at once, because I see so much terrible news anymore and it is troubling, So please bear with me, and Thanks! for allowing me this oppurtunity to speak!

I sure can't tell the difference--put one of those checkered rags on Howard Dean's pumpkin-head, and he looks just like Yasser Arafat. He already sounds like Yasser.

But, the voters are not as stupid and so this angle won't get any traction either

Kind of a run-on sentence, but I get the point. It got enough traction in '04, but maybe it's played out. We'll see--it won't affect my golf swing either way...

Jemeriah:

Let me start by saying that I appreciate Matt and Mark letting me post here, and that I believe they are both well-intentioned and good people, even though I disagree with them on pretty much everything. That is what makes America: our being able to speak openly about our differences.

I consider myself a moderate Democrat, but in many ways I am indeed liberal. In spite of that, many if not most of my dearest, closest friends are conservatives, and supporters of the Iraq war. I could not possibly respect them more - they speak their mind, as do I.

When you being insinuating that the other side is made up of TERRORISTS, you undermine your own argument. We are ALL Americans, Jeremiah. If you were killed or maimed by a terrorist I would mourn your death because you are my countryman. I hope that you feel the same way. The only good thing that came from the unspeakable horrors of 9/11 is that we came together. I supported Bush for about 6 months after Sept. 11 even though I strongly disliked him before it (and, truthfully, I dislike him even more now).

We CAN get along. And we must. It's crucial to our survival. So often on this blog there is vitrol and downright hate. Such emotions will bring our great nation down. We disagree - and that's okay. But we are all Americans, and I (mind you, as a liberal) agree wholeheartedly that terrorism is the great struggle of our generation. We need to fight it - let us not disagree about that. Let's try our hardest to respect each others' opinions and have a productive discussion.

May God bless ALL Americans.

1H8L1BS,

You bring up Yasser Arafat, Hey, We made a joke out of his name.

It goes like this, If some fellow asks you a question, and your answer would be "yes" then you would instead say "yasser" as to "Yes Sir".

HaHa, Pretty funny eh? :)

Jeremiah

so lets see... Bush is in fact a deceitful liar who deceived our country to drive us to war in Iraq. And so the democrats point out the obvious truth that he is a deceitful liar, and so does al-qaeda. And that's somehow supposed to mean that al-qaeda and the democrats are the same???

So by that reasoning, if Mother Theresa says the sky is blue, and the Devil also says the sky is blue, then Mother Theresa is the Devil? Right? I mean, that's basically what you toads are saying - no?

Obviously, American public schools are failing miserably at teaching even the most basic principles of logic.

How pathetic is it where people are now labelling patriotic americans as terrorists because they do not agree with their political stance.

Sure signs of an emerging totaltarian state if it continues.

Also, sure signs that the Republicans are getting absolutely desperate to try and stay in power. Additionally, you are also cheapening the definition of terrorist and terrorism by likening Osama and bob the liberal that lives across the street.

Finally, another clear indication on exactly why the Republicans need to be flushed out of congress before its too late and Americans have less freedoms than citizens of North Korea.

Republicanism is a cancer to America and the world and they need to be irradiated back into congressional obscurity for another 50 years. Democratic majority in congress kept america safe for 5 decades, republicans have wiped it out and increased world terrorism in just 5 years

Axis says,

-"Democratic majority in congress kept america safe for 5 decades."

That's a pretty broad statement, considering that congress didn't really do much of anything regarding terrorism, one way or another.

Perhaps you mean that the democrats have kept us safe from government waste and oppressive taxation! Oh, no, I guess that wouldn't make sense either...

I don't give a fig what Al Qaeda says. I don't trust what they say. We can smear DemoRATs for a lot of things but not for what Islamofascists say.

I think 1H8L1BS is a spoof. Way over the top. Too obvious.

Axis says,

-"Democratic majority in congress kept america safe for 5 decades."

Except for Pearl Harbor

Except for the American hostages in Iran

Except for Beirut bombings that killed 200+ Americans

And on and on

Axis, you're a beauty

I agree with what Jeremiah says. God bless you, Jeremiah. The baby Jesus obviously speaks through you! But I still think we should ignore Al Qaeda's PR statements. They lie more than demoRATs and they kill more than the disloyal opposition. The left may be misguided but I don't think they are anything close to Al Qaeda.

Let the flames commence. Esp from obvious spoofy troll 1H8L1BS.

Just recently, the person has written a thread on how to do away with Christianity in America

Sounds like one sick S-P.

nice try warrior, aside from pearl harbor, all those are foreign acts of terror, not domestic.

And those happened over a 50 year span

How many people have died on Bush's watch again? in just 5 years?

- 3000 from 9/11
- 1200 from Katrina
- 3000 dead soldiers
- tens of thousands horribly maimed and crippled, - hundreds of thousands of dead iraqis

the list goes on...

Yep... that nasty Katrina was quite the military opponent, wasn't it?

Axis--you're absolutely delusional. I'm surprised the Candians haven't deported you yet.

Let's not forget the 50,000 killed in Vietnam, a conflict which was escalated by one of your fellow travellers--I think it was LBJ, wasn't it?

On a more positive note, now that Ayman al-Zawahri is writing the democratic talking points, Howard Dean has more time for fund-raising.

"The left may be misguided but I don't think they are anything close to Al Qaeda."

Bob,

Yes, Very true as far as actions are concerned, democrats do not do the things tha Al qaeda do.

But, It is my belief that they give our enemies orders, when they uphold their actions, You know like, saying that this war was and is not necessary, Which the terrorists use as an excuse to cause more violence and distress upon the land.

So, Really, They are aiding the terrorists! and if you uphold the terrorist actions then your just as bad or much worse than the terrorists themselves.

Jeremiah

Speaking of Democratic plans to keep us safe from Osama and Al Qaeda. I'll let Richard Clarke describe the plan that was passed on to George Bush that he ignored.....

"Wednesday, March 24, 2004

WASHINGTON — The following transcript documents a background briefing in early August 2002 by President Bush's former counterterrorism coordinator Richard A. Clarke to a handful of reporters, including Fox News' Jim Angle. In the conversation, cleared by the White House on Wednesday for distribution, Clarke describes the handover of intelligence from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration and the latter's decision to revise the U.S. approach to Al Qaeda. Clarke was named special adviser to the president for cyberspace security in October 2001. He resigned from his post in January 2003.

RICHARD CLARKE: Actually, I've got about seven points, let me just go through them quickly. Um, the first point, I think the overall point is, there was no plan on Al Qaeda that was passed from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration.

Second point is that the Clinton administration had a strategy in place, effectively dating from 1998. And there were a number of issues on the table since 1998. And they remained on the table when that administration went out of office — issues like aiding the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, changing our Pakistan policy -- uh, changing our policy toward Uzbekistan. And in January 2001, the incoming Bush administration was briefed on the existing strategy. They were also briefed on these series of issues that had not been decided on in a couple of years.

And the third point is the Bush administration decided then, you know, mid-January, to do two things. One, vigorously pursue the existing policy, including all of the lethal covert action findings, which we've now made public to some extent.

And the point is, while this big review was going on, there were still in effect, the lethal findings were still in effect. The second thing the administration decided to do is to initiate a process to look at those issues which had been on the table for a couple of years and get them decided.

So, point five, that process which was initiated in the first week in February, uh, decided in principle, uh in the spring to add to the existing Clinton strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action, five-fold, to go after Al Qaeda.

The sixth point, the newly-appointed deputies — and you had to remember, the deputies didn't get into office until late March, early April. The deputies then tasked the development of the implementation details, uh, of these new decisions that they were endorsing, and sending out to the principals.

Over the course of the summer — last point — they developed implementation details, the principals met at the end of the summer, approved them in their first meeting, changed the strategy by authorizing the increase in funding five-fold, changing the policy on Pakistan, changing the policy on Uzbekistan, changing the policy on the Northern Alliance assistance.

And then changed the strategy from one of rollback with Al Qaeda over the course [of] five years, which it had been, to a new strategy that called for the rapid elimination of al Qaeda. That is in fact the timeline.

QUESTION: When was that presented to the president?

CLARKE: Well, the president was briefed throughout this process.

QUESTION: But when was the final September 4 document? (interrupted) Was that presented to the president?

CLARKE: The document went to the president on September 10, I think.

QUESTION: What is your response to the suggestion in the [Aug. 12, 2002] Time [magazine] article that the Bush administration was unwilling to take on board the suggestions made in the Clinton administration because of animus against the — general animus against the foreign policy?

CLARKE: I think if there was a general animus that clouded their vision, they might not have kept the same guy dealing with terrorism issue. This is the one issue where the National Security Council leadership decided continuity was important and kept the same guy around, the same team in place. That doesn't sound like animus against uh the previous team to me.

JIM ANGLE: You're saying that the Bush administration did not stop anything that the Clinton administration was doing while it was making these decisions, and by the end of the summer had increased money for covert action five-fold. Is that correct?

CLARKE: All of that's correct.

ANGLE: OK.

QUESTION: Are you saying now that there was not only a plan per se, presented by the transition team, but that it was nothing proactive that they had suggested?

CLARKE: Well, what I'm saying is, there are two things presented. One, what the existing strategy had been. And two, a series of issues — like aiding the Northern Alliance, changing Pakistan policy, changing Uzbek policy — that they had been unable to come to um, any new conclusions, um, from '98 on.

QUESTION: Was all of that from '98 on or was some of it ...

CLARKE: All of those issues were on the table from '98 on.

ANGLE: When in '98 were those presented?

CLARKE: In October of '98.

QUESTION: In response to the Embassy bombing?

CLARKE: Right, which was in September.

QUESTION: Were all of those issues part of alleged plan that was late December and the Clinton team decided not to pursue because it was too close to ...

CLARKE: There was never a plan, Andrea. What there was was these two things: One, a description of the existing strategy, which included a description of the threat. And two, those things which had been looked at over the course of two years, and which were still on the table.

QUESTION: So there was nothing that developed, no documents or no new plan of any sort?

CLARKE: There was no new plan.

QUESTION: No new strategy — I mean, I don't want to get into a semantics ...

CLARKE: Plan, strategy — there was no, nothing new.

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Let's see......

WWII, the signs were there of a Japanese attack that FDR ignored because he wanted us in the war.

Korea, MacArthur was kicking ass until Truman stopped him. Also, the first war that had United Nations' influence miserable failure. You would think the Democrats would have learned from that.

Vietnam, really nothing more to say about that. Everyone knows the outcome and the total failure of Democrats in that one. We also see how the Democrats in charge almost allowed this country to be burned to the ground from their policies that caused the most turmoil in a decade in this country's history.

Now, those same Democrats who were involved in that turmoil are looking to take control of Congress. Heaven help us.

The 70s, highest inflation, unemployment, taxes and gas prices (equating dollars) and shortages in history, ala Jimmy "never met a dictator he didn't like" Carter.

The 80s would have been more of the same had it not been for Reagan. But the result of the Democratic controlled Congress, who controlled the purse strings of this country, ballooned the debt.

The 90s - Clinton's failure to deal with terrorism......

Good thing Bush ignored this plan, we would have done nothing after 9/11, just like Clinton did after 8 years.....

Well maybe cut and run like Clinton did in Somalia........

Jeremiah wrote:

"So, Really, They are aiding the terrorists! and if you uphold the terrorist actions then your just as bad or much worse than the terrorists themselves."

How exactly is standing up for the rights of the accused "upholding terrorist actions"? Is questioning whether we want the great USA to stand for torture also "aiding the terrorists"? In fact, the terrorists SUPPORT the use of torture- do we really want to descend to their level? Can we not question the actions of our Commander in Chief during wartime? If not, WHY did the right-wing not support Clinton's actions against the brutal Milosevic? Were Hannity, Limbaugh, etc on the side of Milosevic and, therefore, terrorists themselves? Would you also allege that McCain, Graham, Specter, et al are terrorists as well- or is it just the Democrats?

Also, wouldn't those who support "Pro-Life" organizations like Operation Rescue, etc be "aiding the terrorists" and would then be terrorists as well? Remember that Eric Rudolph, James Kopp, etc were involved in these organizations AS WAS Randal Terry - I guess that's Randall Terry-ist!!!

Villifying those who disagree with you as "supporters of the terrorists" is apparently the new McCarthyism, but our great nation was founded on the RIGHT to question our government and to disagree with the President.

Mr. Voter,

I've seen TOO MUCH corruption on the left to agree with their stance on the critical issue's facing America, Such as:

Abortion: The left is primarily what I would call them, Anti-life thus pro-abortion.

Gun rights: Under a liberal run government American citizens would have all their rights to protect themselves against thiefs etc. essentially taken away!!

Homosexual rights: Should never be! and the left overlooks the destruction that this issue would cause America, something that will send you to hell faster than any sin.It should be permanent as follows - MARRIAGE BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN *ONLY*

Christian symbols: Which is at the top of the list for me. They would all be taken away from the public places taking many millions that glimpse of hope away.

Christian Rights: To pray in schools at graduations and so-forth would be struck down and no-one would be able to share that true kindness and joy that ONLY comes from Jesus Christ!!!!!

Yes, we are all American, and to myself the definition for an American is as follows:

Those of us who appreciate LIFE!!

Those of us who appreciate and acknowledge Jesus Christ, He's the only thing that can bring unification to differentiating opinions.

Those of us who believe in looking out for one another and protecting ourselves from evil people.

Those of us who at the end of the day can say: Job well done, have a nice day, with a big hand shake, and smile on your face :).

We are family! and it's time the left drops the intentional evil foolishness, if you want to consider yourselves American?

But, as for now? I've seen too much foolishness from the left to agree with them, with an honest and sincere hand shake!! Just not gonna happen.

Jeremiah

so now anyone thats not christian isnt American? last time i checked the definition was anyone who was an american citizen is an american, sorry that includes athiests, agnostics, homosexuals and muslims too, and since when can kids not pray in schools?....the only way this is not allowed is if the school itself leads the prayer, i was witness to many a prayer when i was in high school

even took part in a few myself, although i wouldnt consider myself a christian

we even said the pledge everyday, with "under God" and everything, i know, i know, i was shocked too with all the christian persecuation in America

Todd,

It's the persecution was'nt as bad then as it is now, and I only fear the worst ahead if a liberal administration takes over? It's people like the ACLU bunch that really makes me MAD!! They don't help to give people the freedoms that they are rightfully due, THEY ARE SLOWLY TAKING *AWAY* OUR FREEDOM!! AND I, LIKE, SO MANY OTHER CHRISTIANS, WANT IT STOPPED!!!

THE ACLU IS A DANGER TO THIS NATION!!

Jeremiah

well it was only 2 and a half years ago, regardless...i do agree that some (not all) liberal groups do not have our best interests at heart, and take advantage of minorities, etc. Though as a libertarian im much more afraid of the FED than i am of the ACLU

as for the orignal intent of this thread...are you all tired of playing politics yet? you know we have real problems here at home, and you call eachother terrorists, when will the rhetoric stop?

Axis claims those are foreign acts and then he rebuts with 3000 soldiers dead...all on foreign soil.

Good lord you are an incredible waste of space.

And to suggest that Bush is responsible for Katrina deaths is an absolute joke. First responders...LOCAL and STATE...all run by Democrats...all screwed up.

What agency saved the most people...the United States Coast Guard...a FEDERAL agency.

DOH

Todd,

The past six and half years have been really Great, the best it has ever been in this country since the Clinton era, as far as leadership is concerned, and everything else included, If the liberals will just leave the business to us Grown-up Conservatives!

The most recent rough times were back in the middle to late nineties, this country was on shaky ground, and the fight is continuing for the rights of Christians!
But for the sake of America I hope Republicans can remain in control for the Christians sake!

Jeremiah

i wasnt really refering to the state of the economy....but rather the total control that the FED has over our lives

"but rather the total control that the FED has over our lives"

Well, If you want control? Just wait until maybe them democrats get in control of Washington, You'll see control, They'll be telling you when to stand up and when to lie down, and when you can milk your cow, atleast your cow for now, but not for long should liberals take CONTROL of it.

You better wake up, dude.

Don't worry, be happy, your a FREE MAN!

President Bush is the Greatest! :)

Jeremiah

well i suppose we all have our own conspiracy theories...i disagree with yours, you disagree with mine (maybe as i know many republicans who agree with me after doing research about the FED) but at the end of the day we are both doing what we think is right and the same goes for the liberals

...as much as the people here would like to belive, the liberals actually do love their country just as you all love it and just as i love it

"maybe as i know many republicans who agree with me after doing research about the FED) but at the end of the day we are both doing what we think is right and the same goes for the liberals"

The only thing that will help you and your kind in the long run is the sudy how you can preserve life, ok, put a ban on abortion, because right now, to so many folks it's not about life, it's all about MONEY and lots of it, It is a crying stinking shame that ol dirty money has to get in the way of of thriving human life, and it's like every time I think about it, it's like a huge thundrstorm building inside of me ready to send my thunder of anger on these people, their SICK AND IT'S ALL THE STUPID LIBERALS FAULT! Stupid liberals don't care about unborn life, life to them is like a hand full of dirt thrown back to the ground to be trampled, I'd just like to tell an abortionist to get lost for once, and shut all these abortion clinics completely down!

I'm tellin ya this country has got some EVIL,EVIL people in it, and they are the LIBERALS!!

Don't be votin for liberals now, you hear me? Don't be votin fer em, ther, SICK! and because if you do? You may not get to do the things that you normally do.

Jeremiah

Mr. Greenway--

How can a liberal say he loves his country and in the same breath wish his country ill in a war effort?

Sorry--major disconnect there.

they actually can love their country because you have all been brainwashed to believe that they wish their country ill in a war effort....see there is this thing called government, and another thing called a country, they are actually two different things, one can in fact love and be patriotic towards ones country and at the same time dissent and disagree with ones governmnet. government is not always right you know.....let me rephrase that, government is usually not right, it wasnt right under clinton and it sure as hell isnt right under bush.

Surely I am not the only one who is paying attention to the efforts of the enemy to align themselves with the Democrats and to diminsh Bush and, one can assume, contribute to the defeat of the Republican Party.
The Dems seem quite happy to have these allies. One can only assume that this is because they share many of the same goals.
Why would the enemy, Bin Laden and/or al-Zawahri, go out of their way to quote Democratic talking points? Who do you think they would prefer to win the next presidential election---the Dem or the Republican?

HWOV? (How would Osama vote?)

Abortion: You can't control other people.
Homosexual rights: You can't control other people.
Christian symbols: Seperation of church and state.
Christian Rights: Seperation of church and state.

Hope that clears your mind up, kids.

did anyone stop to think that this has all been a ploy to set the democrats and the republicans at odds with eachother? the widen the gap between you? this whole left-right paradigm is all meant to break our country apart and that is exactly what is happening

Almiranta,

Yes, the enemy uses that soft easy talk to get the the facts that they need to know in their favor, and I see a lot of that here on this blog!

Take coulterfan for instance, that person is a brainwashed liberal to the core, and is condoning everything that terrorists would most want to happen here in America, and that's why we need to keep our guard against such people, be girded with the Word of Truth!

Jeremiah

Jeremiah,

I'm afraid that you are the brainwashed one. You would do well to stop preaching to others and to read the words of Jesus yourself!

Jesus spoke out vehemently against capital punishment (something he was subjected to and something your dear leader clearly believes in), yet never mentioned abortion. Abortion has been around since at least Greek times, but Jesus never mentioned it? Abortion was also FREE and LEGAL when our country was founded and, oh, Thomas Jefferson wrote the 'Separation of Church and State' doctrine. Not to mention that your party's modern founder- Goldwater- was against government intrustion and was, therefore, pro-choice (as is Laura Bush, Condeleeza Rice, Barbara Bush, Guilianni, Pataki, etc- ALL PRO CHOICE) So, let's see. . Jesus may not have approved of abortion, but he PLAINLY DID NOT approve of CAPITAL PUNISHMENT! He probably wouldn't have condoned torture either. . .

Furthermore, Jesus NEVER mentioned homosexuality. Again, it was around at that time and clearly condemned by the Old Testament (but, then again, so was eating 'cloven animals' like pig). However, Jesus spoke CLEARLY about divorce being the grave sin of adultery! That would mean that people who divorce are at least as damned as homosexuals in Jesus' eyes. After all, what poses a bigger threat to traditional marriage- gay marriage or divorce? !?!?! Shouldn't we outlaw divorce rather than abortion and gay marriage because that's what Jesus would do? I can quote scripture to back up these assertions, can you? Where does Jesus condemn gays and abortion? He CLEARLY condemns divorce (something many Republican party leaders have done) and capital punishment!

I am not anti-Christian and neither are most liberals. I think, though, that they would do well to examine their own behavior and how they can more closely adhere to Jesus' teachings rather than pushing their religion on other people in the public sphere. After all, if you were arrested in a Muslim nation, would you feel that you're going to be treated fairly when the first thing you saw in their courthouse was the Koran?

In the words of Dick Cheney (another supporter of gay rights AND probably pro-choice as well) "Freedom means freedom for everyone"...

Jeremiah,

I'm afraid that you are the brainwashed one. You would do well to stop preaching to others and to read the words of Jesus yourself!

Jesus spoke out vehemently against capital punishment (something he was subjected to and something your dear leader clearly believes in), yet never mentioned abortion. Abortion has been around since at least Greek times, but Jesus never mentioned it? Abortion was also FREE and LEGAL when our country was founded and, oh, Thomas Jefferson wrote the 'Separation of Church and State' doctrine. Not to mention that your party's modern founder- Goldwater- was against government intrustion and was, therefore, pro-choice (as is Laura Bush, Condeleeza Rice, Barbara Bush, Guilianni, Pataki, etc- ALL PRO CHOICE) So, let's see. . Jesus may not have approved of abortion, but he PLAINLY DID NOT approve of CAPITAL PUNISHMENT! He probably wouldn't have condoned torture either. . .

Furthermore, Jesus NEVER mentioned homosexuality. Again, it was around at that time and clearly condemned by the Old Testament (but, then again, so was eating 'cloven animals' like pig). However, Jesus spoke CLEARLY about divorce being the grave sin of adultery! That would mean that people who divorce are at least as damned as homosexuals in Jesus' eyes. After all, what poses a bigger threat to traditional marriage- gay marriage or divorce? !?!?! Shouldn't we outlaw divorce rather than abortion and gay marriage because that's what Jesus would do? I can quote scripture to back up these assertions, can you? Where does Jesus condemn gays and abortion? He CLEARLY condemns divorce (something many Republican party leaders have done) and capital punishment!

I am not anti-Christian and neither are most liberals. I think, though, that they would do well to examine their own behavior and how they can more closely adhere to Jesus' teachings rather than pushing their religion on other people in the public sphere. After all, if you were arrested in a Muslim nation, would you feel that you're going to be treated fairly when the first thing you saw in their courthouse was the Koran?

In the words of Dick Cheney (another supporter of gay rights AND probably pro-choice as well) "Freedom means freedom for everyone"...