For those Demoncrats, who want to continue to Bash
President Bush on a daily basis, perhaps you can go to the Drudge report, and look into the Dick Morris article and read it with an "open mind"-after all, he was the closest thing to both the Clinton's for over 20+ years.

In your tired old arguments in blaming Terrorism
and the problems we have with regard to it on Bush
you should remember----"IT WAS PRESIDENT BUSH WHO
DECLARED WAR AGAINST TERRORISM".....NOT, Clinton
who had "8 years, and he dodged the responsibility
to respond to the many attacks on Americans, which
in Bin Laden's own words-they would attack the
"Paper Tiger". You saw your own hero on the Chris Wallace get unglued when asked a simple question, as he wants to "Continue to rewrite his
legacy, and fool people into thinking he was really handling Terrorism-Which HE WASN'T. While
the Demoncrats want to continue to whine and decry the efforts of Bush, you really need to look at all the problems that he inherited from the Clinton's inept Administration. You people are part of the problem.....NOT the solution, so instead of making this fight against Terrorists who want to kill you, a political game- Suck IT UP, and fight as Americans First, and political animals second. You in your daily rants and rhetoric, are "enabling and empowering these Terrorists", as they listen to your words and the
news of your divisiveness here in America, on a DAILY BASIS.

Let me get this straight...

When someone leaks portions of a report that show that the Iraq War have increased the threat of terrorism, this is partisan and endangers national security. (I'm not sure how it does that, but I'm guessing you equate Bush's political security with our nation's security.)

On the other hand, when Bush releases more portions of the very same report to defend his policy, less than a week later, this is NOT partisan and does NOT endanger national security.

Do you bushbots even use logic anymore, or do you just blurt out whatever sound byte seems best at the moment? Intellectual honesty, logic, and rational thought seem to have been completely tosses aside by you in some last ditch attempt to protect Dear Leader.

SteveGA--in yours and other willing accomplices zeal to defeat Bush at any costs, you have chosen the Bush administration as your enemy. Not the Islamists who brought down the towers. Not the radical Islamist ideology whose aim is to bring us into a state of dhimmitude. No, your enemy is George W. Bush.

So, in the tradition of Tokyo Rose and Axis Sally before you, you declare war on Bush and all his policies, including the War in Iraq and the GWOT in general. Damn the aid and comfort you're giving our enemies. That's not important. DAMN the damage that you're doing to our nation's security in the process. That's not important. All that matters to you and your ilk is to feed the monster that is your BDS, and the ends will certainly justify the means. Even if the means include assisting our enemies and destroying our great nation to do it.

way to go steve - you beat me to it. the hypocrisy is so unquestionably blatant as to make one scoff at the idea that the author peddling this crap actually believes it himself...

Well, orange and Steve--

How else can you defeat a defeatocrat propaganda campaign based on lies and half truths, except with the truth?

Do you expect the NYT's lies and half-truths to go unchallenged?

OOPS - there it is again, didn't take too long for this from psyc:

Damn the aid and comfort you're giving our enemies

when at a loss for a valid argument, default to the old winger standard of accusing us of supporting terrorists and hating america.

robots...

compute, compute... liberals hate america, liberals support the enemy, liberals eat babies....

So let me get this straight, Steve & orange:

The only decent, proper & appropriate thing for the Administration to do is let the "leak" become the story.

Do I have that right?

And you guys think YOU have the moral high ground?

sheesh!!!

The Democrats need to increase their efforts in the fight against Mr. Bush and the Republicans. Like Clinton displayed in the Fox News interview, it's time for Democrats to attack Bush without mercy and without hesitation.

The Dems are the opposition party and when faced with a failed presidency, ineffectual Republican congress and a disasterous administration in general it is their *duty* to attack, and attack viciously.

Bush and his abhorant policies, from selling of Social Security to this phony "war on terror" must be fought so our nation will endure.

Wade

The report will come out, and the truth will be known, and you and your dhimmicrat counterparts will once again be PROVEN to be the liars and seditionists that you really are.

You're not interested in truth. You're only interested in feeding your BDS, and you'll take every lie and half truth that comes along to do it.

Orange, you can deny it til the cows come home. But if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck.

By your fruits shall we know you. And BTW--your "fruits" are rotten.

We are at war, but while Republicans want to take the fight to the terrorists, Democrats want to take the fight to President Bush and the Republican Party.

matt, with all due respect, if the republicans actually stood up to george every now and then and acted like a separate governing branch rather than a limp appendage of the white house, i might have a bit more respect and admiration for you ideologically-minded brethren. but winstead, we have a rubber stamp GOP literally scared to act and think without the direction of the bush/rove/cheney cabal. i think the pansy party is more apt description for the GOP of late.

No, Orange Alert, it is Bush's critics who are the hypocrits. They zealously defend their own right to dissent, but will not grant Bush the right to defend himself from their accusations. I would point out that the leakers did so IN VIOLATION OF LAW. No matter how noble they may think their motives are, they are still VIOLATING THE LAW when they leak classified information. On the other hand, the president has the authority to declassify information, and is not violating any law when he does so. So perhaps my side of the aisle is missing the point. It's not about who's being partisan, but about who's obeying the law and who isn't.

Let me give a recent historical example. Bill Clinton took quite a bit of flak for bombing that factory in Sudan. It was for making pharmaceuticals, his critics alleged. Then, he released intelligence information indicating that a precursor to VX nerve gas had been found in the soil near the factory. This would indicate that the factory was making VX gas and thus constituted a legitimate target, and in turn show that Clinton's missile attack was justified. Thus Clinton, like Bush later on, released classified information to defend himself from his accusers, as was his right then and Bush's right today. The hypocrisy comes from those who would recognize Clinton's right to do this, but not Bush's. And please note that I, a rightwinger, am actually defending Clinton on this.

By your fruits shall we know you. And BTW--your "fruits" are rotten.

BD - i did not say nor imply anything of the sort about letting the leak become the story. i was merely replying to what i feel is blatant hypocrisy espoused by mr. margolis on the topic of leaked intelligence used for political gains...

One paragraph from 30+ pages that some who've seen it say does NOT draw this conclusion?

Hey Democrats, remeber accusing Bush of Cherry picking?

Well the whole section is coming out now, so lets read it and see how full of crap you are.

According to Rep. Harman (D-CA), there is a second intelligence report strictly on Iraq that has been left in draft form. The supposed reason for this is that Bush doesn't want it released before the election because it contains some damning conclusions. Has anyone heard about this?

here's my beef kahn - if the NIE includes claims to that refute what has thus far been reported, than it behooves the admin to release the NIE (as is standard procedure - http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/009974.php) to help buttress their case. i'm all for reserving judgment until the facts are laid bare, but let me tell you this - i don't for one minute trust this president to be honest and forthcoming in this declassification process. he defines the concept of selective declassification.

Uhh, bushbots?

Nowhere did I say that Bush did not have the right to release portions of this report. (And lets be clear here, he will be releasing selected portions, not the whole document. I'm guessing that the negative portions will remain classified for reasons of "national security". I wish he would release the whole thing, as well as the almost-NIE dealing only with Iraq which the administration has sat on for months.) What I pointed out was the hypocricy of YOU, bushbots, for cheering Bush's release of info while condemning anyone else.

Jo and Psycmeistr: why do you equate wanting to know about the level of danger from terrorism with pro-terrorist sympathies? Is there something about knowledge that is objectively pro-terrorist, or are you just scared of individual thought?

Matt

That's why people like orangealert have such a love and admiration for al Qaeda. George Bush is both their enemies. Orange has no choice but to root for bin Laden, if he can get some victories over Bush that will help him/her.

One cherry picked paragraph from a thirty page document says that. People in the know say that is not the conclusion of the whole document.

But hey, Bush just ordered that the whole section be released so lets see.

OK Orange?

Democrat wacko theme song!!!!

http://www2.hawaii.edu/~jaysen/5.6.7.8's - Woo Hoo.mp3

That's why people like orangealert have such a love and admiration for al Qaeda. George Bush is both their enemies. Orange has no choice but to root for bin Laden, if he can get some victories over Bush that will help him/her.

cj - i default to my prior comment in reply to psyc:

when at a loss for a valid argument, default to the old winger standard of accusing us of supporting terrorists and hating america.

robots...

compute, compute... liberals hate america, liberals support the enemy, liberals eat babies....

come on CJ - at least be original.

Hey Orange.... woo hoo woo hooo hooo!

Orange,

It ain't YOUR garden? Just where is your garden-
Is it in the USA? If not, just butt the hell out
and take your blatent hatred of GWB over to Moveon
they will appreciate your inane, childish rants,
because you won't, and don't look at facts-EVEN
when one of Clinton's people will point it out to
you(Dick Morris) Did you even look in on his report on Drudge today? Somehow, I don't think so
as it's only about bashing, whining and trying to
be clever on your rants.

Donks delenda est.

Regarding the recent leaked info on the NIE, Iraq, and the War on Terror:

You know, common sense in not all that common in the MSM and Liberal Wonderland. If you fight a determined enemy, like the Zombie Islamists, guess what? They are going to fight back. These people are determined to reinstate the Caliphate but worldwide. They have no interest in diplomacy, other than to use it as a ruse to allow more time to grow in number and strength.

It is amazing to see the brainwashed elite clamoring to bash Bush when the Islamists are worst than anyone's worst nightmare. They manifested their declaration of Global Jihad very effectively on September 11, 2001. There indeed is a war on terror. Unfortunately, we kept ignoring the little kitten biting our ankle throughout the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Now that kitten is a lion. The lion is killing, bullying, and terrorizing worldwide. To say that this is not the case, that the War on Terror is about trading US blood for oil is naive.

This report being hailed by the MSM and Liberal Wonderland at-large is a great example of the stupor they are in. Their lust for power completely blinds them to the reality of the foe that we face. I think when the beheadings start in a western nation, they might just realize we are at war with Islam.

Bubba's Pravda
bubbaspravda.blogspot.com

Orange:

Maybe tonight you can look in on Dick Morris, who
will be on Fox, and find out what he says about your Hero-Clinton. For the good or bad of it, try
to 'open up your mind' to look and hear with some
clarity. It may do you some good.

Is it any wonder that the lefties find no problem with breaches of the LAW at the expense of the security of our country...as long as it can damage the President.

These leftist morons didn't count on Bush declassifying, AS IS HIS RIGHT UNDER THE LAW, more of the same report to amplify the conclusions of the report.

The average american is not as nuanced as you leftists elitists. They will see that the LEAKING of CLASSIFIED information only UNDERMINES the security of this country.

So go ahead, line up behind the leakers...then wonder once again why you are defeated in Novemeber.

Jo and Psycmeistr: why do you equate wanting to know about the level of danger from terrorism with pro-terrorist sympathies? Is there something about knowledge that is objectively pro-terrorist, or are you just scared of individual thought?

Second, the "select" portions that were leaked are only half-truths, since the context in which it was supplied was not given.

So yes, I have a bit of a problem with using information that was classified. By definition, the leaking of such information could have or has proven to be detrimental to our national security.

That's bad enough.

What I have even more of a problem with is the spirit in which it was leaked--to provide partisan political gain during an election season.

Such use of classified information for such purposes is unforgivable.

The "leaker" needs to lose his/her job at least, and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law at most.

The Democrats need to increase their efforts in the fight against Mr. Bush and the Republicans. Like Clinton displayed in the Fox News interview, it's time for Democrats to attack Bush without mercy and without hesitation.

Goes to show how full of BDS you are...

Clinton was going on the "attack" like a cornered rabid dog.

He knows his number is up--

He knows his legacy is toast.

Desperate times call for desperate measures, I guess.

Just like the conservatives that I have tried to dialog with in the past, Bubba starts name calling and casting aspersions on character; i.e., "brainwashed elite", "Liberal Wonderland." What's up with that? I learned when I was a child that when someone didn't have anything to say, they resorted to such tactics. Bubba obviously thinks, "If I question the person's integrity, then the rational argument will just go away."

Why are you guys keying on the latest NIE report? The notion that the Iraq war either would (prior to the invasion) or did (following the invasion) fan the flames of terrorist potential and/or activity is old news. Many intelligence agencies around the world have been saying that for quite a while.

What the declassified NIE report will tell you is that the terrorist threat has become more "home-grown" and is not dependent upon the al-Qaeda "big boys" for funding or tactical assistance. Is that a good thing? Yes and no, I guess. What it does suggest that counter-terrorism efforts must emphasize intelligence and law enforcement activities rather than invasion activities.

The declassified NIE report will also suggest that the effort in Iraq is a "make or break" situation -- that to the extent that both military and political progress there is real and rapid, it will take a substantial amount of wind out of the sails of the jihadist movement by depriving them of their recruitment base. That is also not news. Thus, it seems to me incumbent upon us, and to the best of our ability, to ensure that the "make" outcome happens as opposed to the "break" outcome. That should have been obvious right from the get-go.

Well... has it? If it wasn't, WHY NOT?? And if it was, WHAT HAPPENED?? In addition to a veritable chorus of retired military brass speaking out very pointedly on the errors we have made, it has gotten to the point where even on-duty, uniformed military brass have been talking too, albeit off the record or guardedly while on the record.

It seems to me that the time has come for both camps, left and right, to stick their heads up from out of their ideological bunkers and smell the wind. We have gotten to the cusp. The recent NIE both says it and reinforces that which others have said. The Iraq Study Group (which hasn't been officially released yet) will say it as well. This is put up or shut up time. And events in Lebanon and in the Palestine Territories have made these times all the more pregnant. Right here, right now, very good things could happen, or very bad things could happen. Either way, it seems to me that paying too much attention to the partisan bullshit on one side or the other is going to cause us to miss a very important opportunity -- an opportunity that could make a decade-long (or longer) difference.

Somewhat off the subject... could I ask what "BDS" means? Specifically, I mean in the way Leo (Psychmeister) means it. I think a specific definition would help us all. Or at least me.

Orange

The fact you hate America is a given. It's your blind support for al Qaeda that's disturbing. I thank God your type are spineless cowards otherwise you'd join up with the terrorists. As long as all you have to offer the jihadists is moral support you can't do too much damage.

Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of George W. Bush.

The diagnosis was created by Charles Krauthammer who happens to be a psychiatrist.

Steve, are you just some crank idiot who doesn't know any better or just plain stupid?

When certain papers within the intel community are
listed 'classified', and given to the President and certain people of the Administration, that is for a reason:.....HOW ABOUT- Keeping our plans for
retaliating against the enemy, finding out information to better help our troops, being able
to garner information in a timely manner to help ward off future attacks against those we are trying to give freedom to, as well as-PROTECTION HERE IN THE USA. WHAT, you fool don't YOU understand about some things just having to be held close to the vest by the President who looks at these things with his staff on a daily basis, to accomplish some of what I listed above?
Further, there are people within this so called Senate, and House of Reps., that CANNOT BE TRUSTED
AS HAS BEEN PROVEN, BY THE LEAKS TO THE N.Y.SLYME
THE WASHINGTON POST, ETC. THUS, DEVULGING WHAT SHOULD BE KEPT UNDER WRAPS IN FIGHTING TERRORISTS WHO WANT TO KILL AMERICANS-INCLUDING YOU, YOU DUMBASS. DON'T LECTURE ME ABOUT THE PROCESS, AS I
AM AN INDEPENDENT THINKER, AND I JUST SO HAPPEN TO HAVE STUDIED TERRORISM FOR OVER A DOZEN YEARS.

HAVE YOU, YOU DUMB ASS? IF YOU ONLY COME TO THIS SITE, IN ALL YOUR PSEUDO INTELECT AND ARROGANCE TO TRY TO ACT LIKE YOU CAN FIND YOUR OWN ASS IN THE DARK, AND PROVE TO US, HOW SAVVY YOU ARE....YOU CAN'T, AND DON'T.

i don't for one minute trust this president to be honest and forthcoming in this declassification process. he defines the concept of selective declassification.

Posted by: orangealert

I thought democratic leaks of sensitive information was the definition of selective declassification.

Good news and OT, I know, but Public Expression of Religion Act, HR 2679 has passed the House. Write your Senator and encourage passage.

This will stop ACLU's profiteering through taxpayer-paid attorneys ordered by judges in Establishment Clause cases against veterans memorials, including Mt. Soledad National War Memorial; the Boy Scouts; public display of the Ten Commandments or other symbols of our American history and heritage which have a religious aspect.

Matt, President Bush makes me feel proud to be an american. Democrats make me feel ashamed to be an american. What I would like to know is what documents did sandy berger steal from the National Archives and then destroy. These documents belonged to the american people and he had no right to do what he did. Even if to protect clintons sorry ass.

"...What I have even more of a problem with is the spirit in which it was leaked--to provide partisan political gain during an election season...Such use of classified information for such purposes is unforgivable... The "leaker" needs to lose his/her job at least, and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law at most."

The individual in question signed a contract pertaining to keeping secrets secret. They promised not to leak sensitive information. To my knowledge, there wasn't any "except in cases where..." clause contained in that contract. This legally binding agreement carries with it specific legal, criminal penalties. This person gained high-level security clearance because they knowingly and voluntarily entered into this agreement to keep secrets secret.

They have betrayed the trust given to them by the United States government in a time of war. They should be sought out, given their day in court, and shot like the traitors that they are.

And as for the earlier comment, "The Democrats need to increase their efforts in the fight against Mr. Bush and the Republicans. Like Clinton displayed in the Fox News interview, it's time for Democrats to attack Bush without mercy and without hesitation." all I can say is:

NEWS FLASH!!! They've been attacking like rabid dogs for the past 6 years, starting on the day after the election in 2000. And they've used every dirty trick in the book that they could in the process. Remember the missing "W" key on so many computer keyboards that had to be replaced? Right out the gate, they dug in their heels and were pulled kicking and screaming to their constitutionally-required "Advise and Consent" duties - only to filibuster as many of them as they possibly could. They've derided, abused, scorned, and vilified the President and his Administration, and anyone who would dare to agree with him. Remember Zell Miller? Remember Joe Lieberman?

They've availed themselves to the cadres of propagandists calling themselves Hollywood entertainers who've echoed their tired litany of treason across the globe. Former Presidents Carter and Clinton have badmouthed President Bush personally as well as his policies across the globe in front of other Heads of States, and dignitaries from all walks of life.

Former President and convicted perjurer, Bill Clinton lost his composure and showed his true colors last weekend. The fear of losing the legacy he wants so desperately to invent was clearly palpable in his demeanor.

I say: I agree. Let's have all the Dems start following Clinton off the cliff, raging and foaming at the mouth. And good riddance to them!

If the Dems do regain control of either house of Congress this fall, they can expect a heavy dose of their own medicine. I'll urge my Republican representatives to use the same partisan tricks to impede any progress across the board, on every single issue, no matter how important.

Remember this all you airhead Bush-deranged partisans: As you sow, so shall you reap.

I thought democratic leaks of sensitive information was the definition of selective declassification.

Bingo! They leaked sensitive information, which is illegal, unless you leak it to the NY Slimes, I guess.

Where's the outrage in the DBM? When the name of a non-covert CIA desk jockey was "leaked," a special prosecutor was assigned to get to the bottom of the non-leak.

Why are we not investigating all these leaks?

There's a TV ad about terrorism, narrated by a retired US Marine. This Marine reminds us that terrorism has been around much longer than many people care to admit. "Many people" translates to "today's DemoCRAPs."

Sure, the war in Iraq has cause a spike in the numbers of terrorists created, but we're also capturing/killing a lot of these animals.

The reason there seems to be more terrorists is that the DBM is covering terrorism, for once, in an attempt to undermine the President and his efforts. You didn't hear a lot about terrorism during Slicky Blue Dress' eight glorious years because Slick wasn't doing anything about it. The only thing he was doing was Monica...

Wade whimpers: "Like Clinton displayed in the Fox News interview, it's time for Democrats to attack Bush without mercy and without hesitation."

????????????????

The Dems, at least the wildly wackiest weirdo radical lefties in the party, have been savaging Bush "without mercy" for about seven years now. He has been accused of being "worse than Hitler", the biggest threat to the world, a cowardly 'chicken hawk' draft dodging AWOL 'paper pilot' (attacks "without mercy" on his courage, integrity, and patriotism) and subject to attacks on his faith, his family, his leadership, and his veracity, all not only without mercy but without scruples, without fact, and without decency.

The radical Left has never hesitated to lie and then lie again, to misstate Bush's statements, to attribute vicious motives to his every action, to invent bizarre stories about him, and in general to find no attack on him too low or despicable to pursue.

Clinton's juvenile temper tantrum was not the opening salvo of a long-overdue attack on Bush. Hardly. It was just a public exhibition of the childishness, recklessless, delusion, and deception we have come to expect from our last president, and another example of why he was such an embarrassment to the country and to the office. His self-indulgence has taken many forms, and this particularly distasteful episode of hysteria is merely one of them. He always had a reputation for being a very hot-tempered man who would strike out when thwarted, and he finally let the nation see what his associates have known for decades.

If you, Wade, find his performance even remotely acceptable, much less admirable and inspriational (as your post indicates) then that says a lot about you. Not much that we have not been able to glean from your prior posts, but certain an affirmation of your allegiance to the radical and loony Left.

And if you believe what he said, you probably also believe that Moore makes documentaries and that Kerry is a war hero.

SO you are saying that the _perfectly legal_ declassification of a document, after its security and classification has obviously allready been breeched, is the same as someone intentionally ignoring their oath and the classified status of a document to cherry pick segments from it to try to benefit a specific political party in an election year? You want the definition of a Hippocrite, you are it!

So you have no problem with someone doing selective leaks for partisan sniping, but you do have problems with anyone daring to try to fight back using _Legal_ means against the _illegal_ leaks?

He has been accused of being "worse than Hitler", the biggest threat to the world, ...

Ok I'll just settle for the worst president in the history of this country.

What a crackup, OA & Stevey, You guys call us hypocrites becuse we see the difference between an illegal leaker and the pres. de-classifying documents! Bwawahahahaaahaa! You guys won't even condemn the ILLEGAL leaks as long as they work in your favor. If we can use the Plame Kerfuffle, I'd say the democrats have ....... about two more years to get there house in order, before they go down in a ball of flames! My prediction!!!

Wade, bring it baby! We continue to wait. The only thing failing right now is your parties pathetic attempt to convince the majority of the country that Bush is the devil! LOL!

Gee, imagin that. We are pissing off the very poeple we are fighting.

Just like the democrats to appease...

A poll last week showed 51% of Democrats would like to see Bush fail. They would like to see the POTUS fail.

I rest my case.

I hated Clinton, but for the good of the country I wanted him to succeed.

Not the Democrats, they hate Bush so much and with every bone in their spineless body that they will do ANYTHING and say ANYTHING to bring him down, regardless of what that does to the country.

It's absolutely disgusting and why so many for Democrats are now independents because of the disgusting crap they keep doing.

Where does one start after reading these entries? Well for starters,I happen to like what Jo said and even appreciate him calling Steve a "dumbass." This must be the "Steve" who likes to end his entires with "Peace." Each time I've read entries by Steve I recall the days I beat the shit out of a peacenik in the sixth grade (1969) whose name was Dudley. I made every effort to rip his lovebeads from his neck before being hauled off to the principal's office. By the grace of God I was successful and they flew in every direction at the pitcher's mound. One thing I will never forget as the burly Mr. Jay (the Principal) looked at us both in his office is when the peacenik Dudley said,(and I quote), "Fightin' don't make peace." I could see the burning bush come into Mr. Jay's eyes and I knew I was okay. Dudly got the lecture. I, as a well-mannered all-american kid, was allowed to go while the peacenik Dudley continued to receive Mr. Jay's scolding. This was, I'm sure, due to the long hair and unceasing crying from a guy twice my size.

That's the thing about liberals and the democrats today. They're all "Dudley's." They're all about grandstanding and wanting to be the big shot in a crowded room but they fail to recall the price so many american men have paid to give us our freedom. Better wake up little Dudley's; this war is going to be uglier than WWII and you had better grow up.

It's funny, all this bitching back and forth...exactly what would you guys on the left do?

Thanks

This has nothing to do with a political leak, it's about little kids not wanting to get caught.

See, to Democrats legality is only a tool of convienience: Use it when you can gain immediate political advantage, but drop it like the plauge if it hinders you in any way. Perjury? Oh come on. Its only about sex! Who CARES?

A leak!!!!! How dare you Expose Valerie PLame who isn't actualyl even covert and wasn't actually exposed! IMPEACH!

An (Illegal) leak! What a Noble and WOnderful Man SPeaking Truth to POwer!(Or some other such drek) Who cares if its illegal as long as republicans are the one it hurts!

Bush using his legal powers as president to declassify documents to combat scurrilous half-truths and leaks by democrats meant to hurt him? "How DARE he!" you thunder. "How dare he try to fight bak! "Why he's just supposed to lay back and let us slime him at will!"

You are in love with legal technicalities and small murky laws, but when it comes to crystal clear breaking of the law, you seem to want to excuse it. ANy time someone murders, you can count on a large portion of the democratic constituency being on his side rather than that of the victim. ANy time a homicidal middle eastern dictator murders people by the thousands in cold blood, you can count on a large portion of the democratic constituency being on their side. ANy time there is a long-serving repressive regime, so long as its socialist or communist, to hell with human rights, it will be lauded by a large portion of the democratic constiuency.

They will claim HUgo CHavez's election, or Castro's election is genuine and fair, while trying to claim that Bush's - or indeed any Republican or person to the right of Al Gore who wins anywhere ever is unfair and 'cheating'. They invent wild theories for their loosing that sounds like the bratty little brother that lost the pick -up basketball game with their older brother and starts making excuses.

For Lautenberg, by all means lets ignore election law and let him substitute onto the ballot past the legal time limit because our guy is losing! WHo cares about the law! FOr the REpublican: WHo cares if by the law Tom Delay can withdraw! LEts sue to keep him on the Ballot! After all, what use such petty things as the law between enemies? WHo cares?

An entire party defined by the principle of "Whatever it is you're for, I'm against it. And THEY dare - DARE - throw out charges of Hippocraqcy while inventing massive conspiracy theories that require the world to be an Oliver Stone movie to work?

How about the party of Democrats just grows up and get out of the 1960's, advances things 40 years and gets into at least this century? I mean, you worsship _Ted "Chappaquiddic" Kennedy, Robert "KKK" Byrd . . .

..yup - just like trying to ram through NSA and torture legislation to protect his troubled little ass, bush tries to keep classified any and every bit of intelligence and analysis that underscores how much of a failure and a threat to the livelihoods of americans he really is.

CJ - how could you be such a blatant supporter of bin laden - wishing to prop up his recruitment campaign by further supporting the iraq debacle? indeed, i think you may be rooting for our own destruction.

yup: It's time to leave the fighting & tactics to the real men OA. I can't believe you and yours are stupid enough to think that we didn't know we'd stir up the hornets nest BEFORE we were able to get all the hornets. This isn't intelligence, this is common sense once again! What more should I expect from a civilian!

Jo,

I know this will be difficult for you to read and understand since I don't put things in ALL CAPS and use random, "punctuation." However, I'll try this very simply for you.

Go ahead and prosecute the leaker. He/she broke the law and should be punished. That is the risk they take when leaking.

However, nothing in what was leaked in any way endangers national security. I know this because the President released the same information and more several days later. I have now read the report, and I assume you have. If there is something in there that endangers national security, I don't see it. If you see something, what is it?

There is a difference between illegal and endangering national security. Can you understand that, Jo? Or do I need to add more quotes and caps?

Another Dumbsh** Lemon...er...Orange.

You think that intel that needs to be kept close to the vest by THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
is 'covering his ass'.....Stupid, really Stupid on
your part. These are the TOOLS, that we garner
information on enemies that are trying to KILL YOUR ASS-you dumbass. In your stupidity, can't you TRY to comprehend, that if we gather this info
on incoming and outgoing Terrorists that are STILL
trying to Kill Americans, this is beneficial in thwarting these murderers? WHAT, would YOU DO,
in keeping us safe---maybe TRY TO SIT DOWN TO TALK
WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE USED TO CUTTING OFF HEADS, CUTTING OFF LIMBS, HANGING SOLDIERS FROM BRIDGES,
STONING WOMEN IN THE STREETS OVER THERE, TAKING LITTLE GIRLS OUT OF CLASSROOMS TO RAPE THEM....

TELL ME IDIOT, WHAT IS "YOUR SOLUTION, is it like
Clinton's...."JUST IGNORE IT, AND IT WILL ALL GO AWAY, WHILE I GET MY JOLLIES OFF IN THE OVAL OFFICE BY A PIG INTERN? OR WHILE I ATTEMPT TO RAPE OTHER WOMEN THAT ARE SUBORDINATES, WHILE 'I AM IN POWER'.....If you Idiot, can Name anything possibly anywhere near this behavior by our current moral President Bush(to his wife, family and others he meets in daily life) who is trying to save your sorry ass from being blown up, THEN,
I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT COMPARISON. YOU CAN'T.
SO take your whinny ass, and go to MoveOn..they will like to hear from you, with your hatred of THIS PRESIDENT, WHO HAD THE BALLS TO "FIGHT BACK,
WHEN HIS PREDECESSOR ....DID ....NOT, AND WAS ONLY
CONCERNED WITH THE POWER, THE MONEY, AND THE RECOGNITION HE FED HIS OWN EGO ON A DAILY BASIS WITH HIS EQUALLY EGOTISTICAL/POWER MONGERING WIFE.

Get a life idiot, cause if you and your ilk don't watch out, you may be blown to hell and back, since on YOUR guy's watch, Terrorists became empowered, emboldened, and in Bin Laden's own words: America is only a Paper Tiger....This, you idiot, was because Clinton etal, DID NOT TREAT
THIS AS TERRORISM AGAINST AMERICANS, (ONLY A POLICE MATTER) AND DID "NOT DECLARE IT WAR, AS OUR CURRENT PRESIDENT DID, CHOOSING NOT TO LOOK THE OTHER WAY".....You, and the rest of your crowd
of Bush Bashers, Anti American hating dolts, should be kissing the ground this President walks on....cause HE'S the ONE TRYING TO SAVE YOUR SORRY ASS.

"yup: It's time to leave the fighting & tactics to the real men OA. I can't believe you and yours are stupid enough to think that we didn't know we'd stir up the hornets nest BEFORE we were able to get all the hornets."

“You know, I’ve heard this theory about, you know, everything was just fine until we arrived , and that, you know, kind of that uh stir up the hornet’s nest theory. It, it, it just doesn’t hold water as far as I’m concerned.” — President Bush, August 21

Muphie

If you had a hornet's nest in your back yard would you let it fester or would you take it out?

Ok I'll just settle for the worst president in the history of this country.

Well, John, we'll just settle for you being the stupidest person in the history of the planet. What are you, ten? I was alive during the term of the worst president ever. I won't tell you who he is, but I will tell you that he's establishing his miserable legacy as a house builder. Maybe you should volunteer to join him--two morons are better than one.

Muphie

If you had a hornet's nest in your back yard would you let it fester or would you take it out?

Warrior, Mudpie's a kook; he'd cut that hornet's nest in half and wear it as a helmet. That's the way kooks think--they don't!!!

Steve. . .it is illegal. .and WHO THE HELL IS THE LEAKER to be deciding what is or is not harmful to national security? If its classified, its _classified_. And thus its illegal to leak it. For that matter, if the Democrats were going to make a big stink about the Valerie Plame non - leak leak where noone got hurt, then where do they get off trying to pretend THIS leak wasn't a bad thing, and why aren't _they_ demanding special prosecutors to look into _this_ leak? Oh, thats right; only leaks that can't be used to harm Republicans should be pursued.