...the point of all this, of course, is to try and say that, somehow, the Party in favor of defeat is actually the Party of veterans.
Mark, they are the party of veterans--veteran kooks, veteran liars, and veteran commies. An example of each: Jack Murtha, Cynthia McKinney, and Bernie Sanders.
I rest my case...
Posted by: keefer at September 12, 2006 08:24 PM
Hey keefer (or should I make that reefer)
Whenever a codger like you expresses his disapproval for courageous veterans, I know that they must be individuals of great integrity.
November is coming, bringing great changes and new hope for a beleaguered nation. So, reefer, go ahead with the name calling if it makes you feel better, we understand, it is a scary time for Repugs & Bush supporters right now, and if you feel the need to lash out in fear & frustration, it's o.k.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at September 12, 2006 10:02 PM
C.O. I'm glad your keeping that optimistic outlook, not that it's going to do you any good up north!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 12, 2006 10:25 PM
CO,
Come again. Courageous veterans, Jack Murtha, Cynthia McKinney and Bernie Sanders? Individuals of great integrity?
BDS is serious, but you go well beyond BDS.
Maybe put your name on the wait list for Canada's MRI.Maybe something physical will appear that can be treated in a few years.
Peace.
Posted by: SEW at September 12, 2006 10:42 PM
Actually, the claim by Democrats is that they have more veterans of the Iraq war running for office. That is true. Facts are facts.
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 12, 2006 10:46 PM
Hmmmmmm............bayside bomber? Should we listen to him........nawwwwwww!
Even if that were a fact though, what does it prove? No really, I'd like to know. I know a million servicemen & women who are conservative and would never desire to run for office! Of course maybe they would if the GOP was out recruiting them the way the DNC does disgruntled servicemen. if that was the case, we would have way more running repub than dimocrat!!! but what's the point? To prove we are right? We don't need servicemen running for office to do that, we need them in the feild fighting to do that!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 12, 2006 11:06 PM
C.O. I'm glad your keeping that optimistic outlook, not that it's going to do you any good up north!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 12, 2006 10:25 PM
bearmanUSMC
Not only for us up north, but the entire world and then when that glorious day comes around and you have a Democratic President (Feingold) well, there will be celebrations around the globe.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at September 12, 2006 11:13 PM
As everyone knows the military voted 72-17 for President Bush. Since the dems are so enamored with our military all of a sudden how about everyone on the left just let the military choose our leaders?
Posted by:
CJ at September 12, 2006 11:21 PM
CO- Will the celebrations around the world include the middle east?
Posted by: Rich at September 12, 2006 11:48 PM
Since the dems are so enamored with our military all of a sudden how about everyone on the left just let the military choose our leaders?
CJ, that sounds like a plan.
Posted by: Retired Spook at September 13, 2006 12:17 AM
O.K. C.O. optimism just went out the friggin window! either your insane, desperate or a little of both, but it will be a cold day in hell when that P.C. coward ever gets into office! As a matter of fact, i'd be willing to bet on that! I will move to Canada the day Feingold becomes pres. Bwahahaaahahaaaaa!!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 13, 2006 12:20 AM
Hey CJ & Spook. Did ya notice how many kookbats posted on LEO's memorial thread for our fallen soldier? Let me give you a hint, I can count them on 0 hands! That's right not one peace lovin moonbat! yah, they just love our military boyz, at least the ones that turn on us!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 13, 2006 12:24 AM
Hey Canadidian Observer--
Maybe when it's your business you can talk to us about our elections. Until then, why not go resurrect your Canadian "intellectual heavyweights..." You know, Paul Martin, Pierre Trudeau.. And discuss some French-type things...
Sit this one out and let the big boys fight it out, okay?
Posted by:
Psycmeistr at September 13, 2006 12:38 AM
bayside,
Well, the story I was hearing six months ago was that 50 Democrat veterans were running for office and 0 GOP veterans...so, that was the lie...but, no matter: the main point stands...Democrats are not attracting droves of anti-war veterans as an indicator of veteran support for defeat in the war.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at September 13, 2006 12:46 AM
Kerry sent out an email today drumming up support for 4 Vets he supports. Of course, he couldn't help but mention Viet Nam.
I addressed here at We Are The Troops
Posted by:
Lew Waters at September 13, 2006 02:43 AM
erry sent out an email today drumming up support for 4 Vets he supports. Of course, he couldn't help but mention Viet Nam.
I addressed here at We Are The Troops
Posted by:
Lew Waters at September 13, 2006 02:44 AM
baysidebomber - Name them.
Posted by: Kahn at September 13, 2006 08:37 AM
CO- Will the celebrations around the world include the middle east?
Posted by: Rich at September 12, 2006 11:48 PM
For those in the middle east who want to be left in peace, yes, they will celebrate the good fortune of having a smart, reasonable, respected man of integrity lead the American people. But for criminals like Bin Laden and his followers, having Bush in power is like having a birthday party every day. He doesn't have to lift a finger to destroy the U.S., Bush is slowly doing the job for them.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at September 13, 2006 09:58 AM
Kahn-
If you're interested in knowing their names, do the research yourself. I certainly have nothing invested in educating you. Besides, I was in no way making a political statement; just pointing out facts.
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 13, 2006 10:20 AM
"If you're interested in knowing their names, do the research yourself." Liberalese for "I don't have any facts, I'm just regurgitating the liberal talking points that I have been fed"
There are a handful of recent veterans (not the 50 that has been bantered around) who are running as Democrats. Most, or all, are former JAG Corps types. That's where you find the highest concentration of liberals in the military.
Its also true that the majority of the veterans of the Iraq War are still in uniform. They feel that the call to arms is more important that cashing their "veteran" status ticket in for a political office.
Posted by: A-10 at September 13, 2006 02:02 PM
Ah but Bayside, you made the claim - not me. I say you're full of crap and you won't name them because you can't name them.
Posted by: Kahn at September 13, 2006 02:32 PM
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 13, 2006 03:58 PM
Why bayside - I'm impressed. Admitting you are full of crap? How refreshing in a liberal.
Posted by: Kahn at September 13, 2006 04:02 PM
I'm not a liberal. I was merely congratulating you on your bold declaration that I am full of crap. Way to take a stand.
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 13, 2006 04:15 PM
But you made a statement and then refused to back it up. Can't you? Can't you back up your own statements?
How would YOU define being full of crap? Because from here, you are sitting right in the middle of the crap zone.
Posted by: Kahn at September 13, 2006 07:53 PM
What statement did I refuse to back up? The only statement a list of names would back up is "I know the names of all of the Democrats running for Congress who are Iraq war veterans". I did not make that statement. In fact, if you had even a basic understanding of the rules of logic you would realize that a list of names would in no way prove the statement that I did make, which is that more Iraq war veterans running for Congress are Democrats than Republicans. If I gave you a list of 10 Democrat names, who is to say that there aren't 20 Republicans?
Again, if you are interested in the facts surrounding this topic, you should do the research. You might learn something.
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 13, 2006 08:16 PM
baysidebomber;
That's pretty pathetic, even for you. When you make a statement, you should be able to back it up. If not, you're full of shit.
Posted by: Mel Evenson at September 13, 2006 09:07 PM
And.....
Air America To Declare Bankruptcy
Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
At the same time Hanoi Jane is starting a Lefty station for women.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Gotta love them dhimmicrats! They are great comic relief.
Posted by: phnxbmed at September 13, 2006 09:09 PM
"Actually, the claim by Democrats is that they have more veterans of the Iraq war running for office. That is true. Facts are facts."
Facts are facts - so name them. Oh and good point, you said the ratio was slanted to the dems - so name the Republicans also.
Posted by: Kahn at September 13, 2006 09:18 PM
This is after the primaries.
Democrats:
David Harris
Chris Carney
Patrick Murphy
Joe Sestak
Tim Walz
Tammy Duckworth
Republicans:
Van Taylor
6 > 1 ...do you need me to back up that statement with a mathematical proof?
I am NOT suggesting that this is of any great significance. I just feel that no discussion is worthwhile if it is not based on facts. Do you disagree?
Posted by: baysidebomber at September 13, 2006 11:09 PM
bayside. Sure. Thanks for posting the names. I ridicule when people make baseless claims and appreciate it when they back something up.
Now as to the ratio... 6 to 1 would mean more if it wasn't actually six to one. So five more Democrats veterans are running than the single Republican. Hardly a convincing argument. I wonder which Iraq war they were in? Also, as someone else pointed out most of the Republicans are still serving.
I've said this before but it's still valid. The liberals have NOT been joining the military (especially as officers) and it is going to bite the party eventually. Virtually no-one from the liberal Ivy League joins.
I don't know about the other services but the Marine Corps cadre of officers is increasingly southern, Christian, and conservative. The Marines enlisted ranks are almost purely either rural or inner city. I've also heard (just anecdotally) that the Marine Corps is becoming largely Catholic.
This, plus the fact that many military feel betrayed by the Democrats and the press (yes, they do) will CERTAINLY lead to chages in the coming decades.
Posted by: Kahn at September 14, 2006 12:32 AM
...the point of all this, of course, is to try and say that, somehow, the Party in favor of defeat is actually the Party of veterans.
Mark, they are the party of veterans--veteran kooks, veteran liars, and veteran commies. An example of each: Jack Murtha, Cynthia McKinney, and Bernie Sanders.
I rest my case...
Hey keefer (or should I make that reefer)
Whenever a codger like you expresses his disapproval for courageous veterans, I know that they must be individuals of great integrity.
November is coming, bringing great changes and new hope for a beleaguered nation. So, reefer, go ahead with the name calling if it makes you feel better, we understand, it is a scary time for Repugs & Bush supporters right now, and if you feel the need to lash out in fear & frustration, it's o.k.
C.O. I'm glad your keeping that optimistic outlook, not that it's going to do you any good up north!
CO,
Come again. Courageous veterans, Jack Murtha, Cynthia McKinney and Bernie Sanders? Individuals of great integrity?
BDS is serious, but you go well beyond BDS.
Maybe put your name on the wait list for Canada's MRI.Maybe something physical will appear that can be treated in a few years.
Peace.
Actually, the claim by Democrats is that they have more veterans of the Iraq war running for office. That is true. Facts are facts.
Hmmmmmm............bayside bomber? Should we listen to him........nawwwwwww!
Even if that were a fact though, what does it prove? No really, I'd like to know. I know a million servicemen & women who are conservative and would never desire to run for office! Of course maybe they would if the GOP was out recruiting them the way the DNC does disgruntled servicemen. if that was the case, we would have way more running repub than dimocrat!!! but what's the point? To prove we are right? We don't need servicemen running for office to do that, we need them in the feild fighting to do that!
C.O. I'm glad your keeping that optimistic outlook, not that it's going to do you any good up north!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at September 12, 2006 10:25 PM
bearmanUSMC
Not only for us up north, but the entire world and then when that glorious day comes around and you have a Democratic President (Feingold) well, there will be celebrations around the globe.
As everyone knows the military voted 72-17 for President Bush. Since the dems are so enamored with our military all of a sudden how about everyone on the left just let the military choose our leaders?
CO- Will the celebrations around the world include the middle east?
Since the dems are so enamored with our military all of a sudden how about everyone on the left just let the military choose our leaders?
CJ, that sounds like a plan.
O.K. C.O. optimism just went out the friggin window! either your insane, desperate or a little of both, but it will be a cold day in hell when that P.C. coward ever gets into office! As a matter of fact, i'd be willing to bet on that! I will move to Canada the day Feingold becomes pres. Bwahahaaahahaaaaa!!!!
Hey CJ & Spook. Did ya notice how many kookbats posted on LEO's memorial thread for our fallen soldier? Let me give you a hint, I can count them on 0 hands! That's right not one peace lovin moonbat! yah, they just love our military boyz, at least the ones that turn on us!!!
Hey Canadidian Observer--
Maybe when it's your business you can talk to us about our elections. Until then, why not go resurrect your Canadian "intellectual heavyweights..." You know, Paul Martin, Pierre Trudeau.. And discuss some French-type things...
Sit this one out and let the big boys fight it out, okay?
bayside,
Well, the story I was hearing six months ago was that 50 Democrat veterans were running for office and 0 GOP veterans...so, that was the lie...but, no matter: the main point stands...Democrats are not attracting droves of anti-war veterans as an indicator of veteran support for defeat in the war.
Kerry sent out an email today drumming up support for 4 Vets he supports. Of course, he couldn't help but mention Viet Nam.
I addressed here at We Are The Troops
erry sent out an email today drumming up support for 4 Vets he supports. Of course, he couldn't help but mention Viet Nam.
I addressed here at We Are The Troops
baysidebomber - Name them.
CO- Will the celebrations around the world include the middle east?
Posted by: Rich at September 12, 2006 11:48 PM
For those in the middle east who want to be left in peace, yes, they will celebrate the good fortune of having a smart, reasonable, respected man of integrity lead the American people. But for criminals like Bin Laden and his followers, having Bush in power is like having a birthday party every day. He doesn't have to lift a finger to destroy the U.S., Bush is slowly doing the job for them.
Kahn-
If you're interested in knowing their names, do the research yourself. I certainly have nothing invested in educating you. Besides, I was in no way making a political statement; just pointing out facts.
"If you're interested in knowing their names, do the research yourself." Liberalese for "I don't have any facts, I'm just regurgitating the liberal talking points that I have been fed"
There are a handful of recent veterans (not the 50 that has been bantered around) who are running as Democrats. Most, or all, are former JAG Corps types. That's where you find the highest concentration of liberals in the military.
Its also true that the majority of the veterans of the Iraq War are still in uniform. They feel that the call to arms is more important that cashing their "veteran" status ticket in for a political office.
Ah but Bayside, you made the claim - not me. I say you're full of crap and you won't name them because you can't name them.
Congratulations.
Why bayside - I'm impressed. Admitting you are full of crap? How refreshing in a liberal.
I'm not a liberal. I was merely congratulating you on your bold declaration that I am full of crap. Way to take a stand.
But you made a statement and then refused to back it up. Can't you? Can't you back up your own statements?
How would YOU define being full of crap? Because from here, you are sitting right in the middle of the crap zone.
What statement did I refuse to back up? The only statement a list of names would back up is "I know the names of all of the Democrats running for Congress who are Iraq war veterans". I did not make that statement. In fact, if you had even a basic understanding of the rules of logic you would realize that a list of names would in no way prove the statement that I did make, which is that more Iraq war veterans running for Congress are Democrats than Republicans. If I gave you a list of 10 Democrat names, who is to say that there aren't 20 Republicans?
Again, if you are interested in the facts surrounding this topic, you should do the research. You might learn something.
baysidebomber;
That's pretty pathetic, even for you. When you make a statement, you should be able to back it up. If not, you're full of shit.
And.....
Air America To Declare Bankruptcy
Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
At the same time Hanoi Jane is starting a Lefty station for women.
Bwahahahahahahaha!
Gotta love them dhimmicrats! They are great comic relief.
"Actually, the claim by Democrats is that they have more veterans of the Iraq war running for office. That is true. Facts are facts."
Facts are facts - so name them. Oh and good point, you said the ratio was slanted to the dems - so name the Republicans also.
This is after the primaries.
Democrats:
David Harris
Chris Carney
Patrick Murphy
Joe Sestak
Tim Walz
Tammy Duckworth
Republicans:
Van Taylor
6 > 1 ...do you need me to back up that statement with a mathematical proof?
I am NOT suggesting that this is of any great significance. I just feel that no discussion is worthwhile if it is not based on facts. Do you disagree?
bayside. Sure. Thanks for posting the names. I ridicule when people make baseless claims and appreciate it when they back something up.
Now as to the ratio... 6 to 1 would mean more if it wasn't actually six to one. So five more Democrats veterans are running than the single Republican. Hardly a convincing argument. I wonder which Iraq war they were in? Also, as someone else pointed out most of the Republicans are still serving.
I've said this before but it's still valid. The liberals have NOT been joining the military (especially as officers) and it is going to bite the party eventually. Virtually no-one from the liberal Ivy League joins.
I don't know about the other services but the Marine Corps cadre of officers is increasingly southern, Christian, and conservative. The Marines enlisted ranks are almost purely either rural or inner city. I've also heard (just anecdotally) that the Marine Corps is becoming largely Catholic.
This, plus the fact that many military feel betrayed by the Democrats and the press (yes, they do) will CERTAINLY lead to chages in the coming decades.