Glad to see that the Canadians are finally getting some kudos. They've been facing the Taliban since the US led coalition went into Afghanistan after bin Laden.
Too many people still think of them as the cowards who wouldn't help in Iraq, instead of the heroes who helped on 9/11, and who are still helping in Afghanistan.

Hick,

I think it was the manner in which the Canadian government acted in the run up to the liberation of Iraq which just got under the skin. The crudity and spitefulness of the Canadian government in early 2003 was outrageous.

Outside of that, however, Canadians have been fighting for the freedom of others for nearly a century now - from Vimy Ridge to Afghanistan, Canadians have willingly given their best for the sake of others. Its just a shame what liberals do with such sublime courage.

200 Taliban Killed in Afghanistan

Good progress.

This is good news, however, to decisvely defeat this enemy we will need to cut off their supplies. I'm not sure we are doing all we can in that area.

Its just a shame what liberals do with such sublime courage.

Yeah, and it's a shame that we have a couple of hate-America, blame-America, Hate-Bush Canadiens who post here. They probably hate their country too...

The Small Town hick

Your kind words are much appreciated, thank you.

Mark

Yes, the Canadian government refused to be hauled into an invasion of a country that had no ties to the attack on America on September 11, 2001. The posturing by the Bush administration and the reasons given were seen as completely bogus.

Thanks to you also, Mark, for your charitable remarks on our brave Canadian men & women fighting in Afghanistan.

Candian, refresh my memory. What were the reason given for going into Iraq?

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KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- U.S. warplanes mistakenly strafed Canadian troops fighting Taliban forces in southern Afghanistan, killing one soldier and seriously wounding five on Monday in an operation that NATO claims has also left 200 insurgents dead.

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Another incident of Americans killing their Canadian allies in Afghanistan. Our troops almost have a much to fear from our friends than from the the Taliban.

Canadian, yah war sucks and it is crazy. Think we did it on purpose? Or are you just a dick?

Again - What were the other reasons we went to Iraq for? You cited them as bogus - can you list them? or were you just talking out your ass?

Canadian, yah war sucks and it is crazy. Think we did it on purpose? Or are you just a dick?

Kahn

I guess I'm just a dick because I don't want our brave soldiers to keep dying at the hands of our friends. These 'friendly fire' incidents are happening much too frequently for my taste.

Thank you for your kind condolences.

One of the main reasons Canada did not agree to be one of the invaders of Iraq was the absence of proof that Iraq was preparing to attack the U.S. with their weapons of mass destruction. Members of the Bush administration went on a media blitz spreading the irrational fear that the American people were in imminent danger of an Iraqi attack, if the U.S. did not act first.

We gave that argument thumbs down, along with quite a few other nations.

But CO, accidents happen now more infrequently than ever. It's not a video game you know - or the Boy Scouts would be there. But - of course we're sorry. Does this have relavence for this discussion somehow? Maybe if Canaian CF-18's were over there they'd be more accurate? Is that your constructive suggestion?

You named the WMD argument already. What were the OTHER bogus reasons you cited? you brought them up,not me. Were you just following some talking points or can you actually list them?

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http://www.usiraqprocon.org/

Kahn

The other reasons supplied by Bush & Co., getting rid of Saddam, spreading democracy, stopping human rights abuses, etc., while not bogus, did not warrant a war on the Iraqi people. There are many countries throughout the world with despotic tyrants in power. Is it the intention of the U.S. to go to war with them all?

Ah, but you called the bogus. So, OK.

The WMD thing. You chose to not participate while EVERYONE still thought they had a WMD program. Let's be clear, history may show that they did not. BUT when you decided, you thought they DID have them. Sadaam wanted everyone to think he had the. The American Intelligence agencies, the European intelligence agencies, the Russians, and yes even the Canadians thought that he had them. Given that and the continuued attackes on planes protecting the no-fly zone and continuous threats and Bush HAD to do waht he did.

It's funny, you THOUGHT there were WMD and DIDN't HELP.

The other reasons supplied by Bush & Co., getting rid of Saddam, spreading democracy, stopping human rights abuses, etc., while not bogus, did not warrant a war on the Iraqi people.

Another misconception--we are not at war against the Iraqi people. We are fighting an insurgency that has been fueled by the Shi'ite mullahs and Imams of Iran. Al-Sadr is not "the Iraqi people."

Yes, Iraqis are being killed right now, but not by us. At least not the innocent, freedom-loving Iraqis. And don't even bother with the isolated incidents--Haditha, etc. It's the exception, not the rule.

Canada didn't join us for the same reasons as France, Germany, Russia, et.al.--they're leftists, pacifists, socialists. Hell, I'll bet Canadian intel was flawed regarding Saddam's WMDs.

Oh, and btw, there are many of us who still believe he had WMDs, and moved them out during the run-up to the war. Seventeen resolutions and twelve years gives one lots of time...

So it is reported 200 taliban killed. Your faith in body counts is sooo touching. Now that is so bogus. You must have been delirious with joy at the body counts in Vietnam for those of you old enough to remember.

Unfortunately, the bottom line is that the Taliban have held most of their ground so far in this particular battle. Nato forces had to pull back to their own strongholds and I presume they will have another go at the Taliban.

Hey wait a minute. I thought the dems big talking point was that we were ignoring the "real war" on terror in afghanistan because we were distracted in Iraq. How is it possible that the dems could be so wrong about every single thing.

The WMD thing. You chose to not participate while EVERYONE still thought they had a WMD program.

Kahn

Absolutely incorrect!! EVERYONE did NOT think Iraq had a WMD program. When the UN inspectors found no evidence of such a program, there was doubt expressed by many, at Bush's rush to judgement, even among some brave Americans who dared to speak out, being labelled unpatriotic traitors for doing so.

Canada was skeptical of Bush's intentions for Iraq from the very beginning and therefore did not become part of the coalition.

When Canadian troops were sent to Afghanistan, however, it was for the legitimate 'war on terror'.

"Canada was skeptical of Bush's intentions for Iraq from the very beginning and therefore did not become part of the coalition." Yes. You were skeptical of Bush's intentions. But you were not skeptical as to whether Iraq either had or was working on WMD.

We were sure. Europe was sure. Everyone in the mid-east was sure. And Russia was sure. We needed your help Canada, and you failed us.

You did NOT know that there were not WMD. You wouldn't stand by a country you border and work with. Your biggest trading partner. You turned your back on us.

I for one will NEVER think of Canada the same way ever again. I don't really think you are our friend. I read you, C.O, axis, and other Canadians here attack us for EVERYTHING. Good job assholes. You convinced me. You don't like us. OK, I don't like you either. I will certainly never count on you agian. And I will argue vehemently against ever helping you with anything evera again.

Canadian Observer,

"Absolutely incorrect!! EVERYONE did NOT think Iraq had a WMD program. When the UN inspectors found no evidence of such a program, there was doubt expressed by many, at Bush's rush to judgement, even among some brave Americans who dared to speak out, being labelled unpatriotic traitors for doing so."

So if Iraq did not have a WMD program, how do you explain the 27,000 chemical bombs, artillery shells and rockets, including 30 Scud missile warheads, destroyed by UNSCOM between 1991 and 2003? Or the 500 tons of mustard and nerve agents and thousands of tons of precursor chemicals they also destroyed? Or the thousands of gallons of biological weapons growth materials?

Or the fact that UNSCOM officially reported that over 30,000 WMD munitions are unaccounted for?(less the 500+ we have found)

Or the 3,000 tons of precursor chemicals that UNSCOM reports are unaccounted for?

Or the 300 tons of VX nerve agent precursors that are still missing?

Or the 360 tons of bulk CW agent, including 1.5 tons of VX that is unaccounted for? (Since only 10 mg of VX is enough to kill a human, 1.5 tons is enough to kill 1/2 of the population of the US, or the combined population of Canada, Great Britian, and France)

Or the thousands of gallons of Bio growth media that is still unaccounted for?

Nope, doesn't sound to me that Iraq had a WMD program.

B. Poster: "This is good news, however, to decisvely defeat this enemy we will need to cut off their supplies. I'm not sure we are doing all we can in that area."

This little tid-bit doesn't sound very promising in that regard

I for one will NEVER think of Canada the same way ever again. I don't really think you are our friend. I read you, C.O, axis, and other Canadians here attack us for EVERYTHING. Good job assholes. You convinced me. You don't like us. OK, I don't like you either. I will certainly never count on you agian. And I will argue vehemently against ever helping you with anything evera again.

Posted by: Kahn at September 5, 2006 12:10 AM

Ah, Kahn, can't we kiss and make up? Don't take our criticism of Bush & his policies so hard. So, we didn't support him in his decision to invade Iraq. Being a soverign nation, we do have the option of deciding what is in our best interests, just like you want to do whatever you feel is in your best interest.

When Bush is gone and Feingold is President all will be right with the world and perhaps we can be friends again, o.k.

Of all the grumbling and whining in Canada about pulling our troops out of the action in Afghanistan, it is interesting to note that very little of this defeatism comes from families of the injured/killed/active military.

In other words, the people who are probably most qualifed to offer an opinion, the families, support what the soldiers are doing and stand by the military. The people who are least qualified to comment, the whiners and peaceniks, are the people who make the noise.

To say things are getting too dangerous, and we should stop, is like having a fiereman who chooses his profession, trains for his job, and excitedly sees the day when a big fire occurs only to have a superior say " better just walk away guys and go back to the station. this one is a little dangerous!"

Why would anyone create and support the fire department if the only fires they would take on are the little ones that the average citizen could probably put out himself? If you never see a fireman abandon the fire until it is safe and out, why should the military turn tail and run?

The mission against Taliban cowards, no matter the location of the fight, will never be accomplished by fair weather soldiers but will be attained by brave and dedicated soldiers who never say no and never give up. Canada has proved to have soldiers of such backbone many times in history and we are not about to break the habit now.

My own father fought through the horrors of World War Two and gave up three years of his life to do so. I personally know many old veterans and we have discussed the current situation and they are upset at the whiners trying to stop the military from doing exactly what it is meant to do.

Once again, should we listen to those whose opinion carries great creadence or those who have never held a rife, never dodged a bullet and never been committed to battle for a belief.