Mark, you can put me in the same collumn. At best, Islam is a poor immitation of Judaism and Christianity, at worst...it's satanic.

We have a message for them.

230 of them were killed today in Afghanistan to 4 of our guys.

In addition, the #2 Al Queda guy in Iraq was captured.

These guys are going down peg by peg and Howard Dean and the leftist nutbags here are upset about it.

so what exactly are the differences between the 'empty promises' of islamo-fascism (it’s nice to see you falling in line with the inappropriate of terminology )and the, I guess you would have to say, fulfilling promises, of your 'savior'? Why do you shoot down the idea of converting so quickly? A sheep's a sheep, why should you really care who the shepherd is...they're all going to give you the same BS? So what's really the difference Mark? You seem to despise this county enough anyway (you can deny all you want) that you should fit in pretty well with the rest of the religions fanatics who are the true enemy of this Nation and of those of us who are loyal to its’ ideals.
So what do you say Mark, your hatred and gullibility seem to put you right in step with those who would kill in the name of fairy tales, are you gonna join up and prove the conviction of your faith, or just sit back and whimper about those more convicted than you?

This latest statement by AL Queda is an invitation to accept Islam and a warning of the consequences if we don't. They certainly didn'e expect this to change any minds. Its for their islamist followers

It is inline with their teachings to first offer the infidels to option to convert and if not taken, to show no mercy and kill them.

It is quite likely that this is a precursor to an attack on US facilities or citizens here or around the world.

The is no negotiating with them. The only option is for us to continue to hunt them down and kill them.

First off, I'd like to recommend we formalize our response to Al Queda as "Stop killing us, or else." Of course, I know this will be very controversial, and I know that many will object at the point any hostilities are entered into that we refer to them as hostilities, because that presumes the islamic fascists are hostile, and how can a handful of terrorist attacks and beheadings really smear the whole group of Islamic fascists?

Opus,
You write:
"A sheep's a sheep, why should you really care who the shepherd is...they're all going to give you the same BS?"
Really? So a sheep to the shepherds Howard Dean, John Kerry, and Nancy Pelosi is getting the same BS as those of us in the flock of George Bush, Jesus, and Dick Cheney? Check your literature, I think you missed today's talking points.

YAY OPUS HATES FAITH & RELIGION! And the sad thing is you see the rest of this country agreeing with you.

Thank goodness there are still MORE people who identify as believing in God since 9-11 then before. The true enemies of this nation are those who wish to kill innocent Americans, and those who wish to destroy the very fabric of America to fit into their completely INACCURATE view of what America stands for.

Opus, do you really believe this Country is and has ever been what you seem to think it is? Probably not. And there's a reason for that... you have no idea what you're talking about.

Morris,

What are you talking about? Pelosi, Dean, Kerry? What do I care about them? what does partisian politics have to do with any of this...turn off Fox news for a bit and try to welcom reality with open arms

Morris,

What are you talking about? Pelosi, Dean, Kerry? What do I care about them? what does partisian politics have to do with any of this...turn off Fox news for a bit and try to welcom reality with open arms

Waw Waw,
um, so what are you saying other then your a sheep w/ no orginal thoughs or ideas? Sheep like you are only one step away from putting on a backpack and proving your faith...the enemy...he's in your mirror every morning...

Opus, don't worry, when one of the Islamofascists cuts off your head I will be sure to throw a towel over it for you.

By the way, why is it wrong for us to call these Muslim nuts by the correct name, namely fascist, but it is perfectly fine for Durbin to refer to our servicemen as Nazi's?

Answer that you hypocrite.

So, Mark, what do you think of the Fox News correspondent and cameraman who were released unharmed by captors after "converting" to Islam?

The name is wawilliyo (or Will in reality), let's keep it civil. I called you by what you put down, try to act older than a 4th grader.

Actually Opus, you're a mental midget. I'm quite capable of forming my own opinions. There are very many people of faith who have differing opinions. I know you can't see that as you're a narrowminded religious bigot, but whatever.

I am so surprised that you don't recognize that you've fallen into the pasture of "Everything about Religion is people not thinking for themselves.

I normally wouldn't point it out but it just proves my point further, you're clearly not smart enough to see that Faith and Religion are CHOICES people make after THOUGHT and CONSIDERATION, you can't even be bothered to even see if what words you're using make sense IN CONTEXT.

But what does it say when over 90% of the United States (and it's been this way SINCE Day One) are people of Faith. Do you cry at night wishing more people were like you so you'd have a friend or two?

Mr. Opus...Give one instance of your repression or your mistreatment in the United States of America. Was your welfare check late, or your allowance from mom and dad cut off\Poor thing..

Name the ideology that rocks your world....America's colonization of any country? Names please........

Actually Opus, you're a mental midget.

You're giving him more credit than he deserves, Will. At least you know how to write, and how to properly use the words "your" and "you're."

Look at his 2:53 post--my neighbor's two-year-old could write better than that.

Why do you think they call it "dope?"

GOP,

What does what Durbin say have anything to do with me? How am I the hypocite?
Unlike you sheep I can form my own thoughts separate from a party line...Fascism is a specific form of government...a very specific form, it has nothing to do with these terrorists, you're just too caught up in new fangled talking points.

Wawiliyo,
you are happy, now try to stop whining like a fourth grader..
if religion is a choice made after THOUGHT and CONSIDERATION (hey look, willy found the CAPS LOCK KEY) then why baptize, why not wait till a child is 18 before sending to religious schools? why not wait until someone is old enough to make that choice...
Face it, RELIGION is hardly a choice when it comes to fanatics like you, it's pushed on your children and on the rest of us.

-But what does it say when over 90% of the United States (and it's been this way SINCE Day One)

Proving you are nothing more then a sheep with no idea of the founding of this nation, what it stands for and why your hatred of it is as dangerous as these islamic nut jobs

oh no, not the grammar police!
wow, you put me in my place, you'RE obviously pretty proud of yourself and grammar check...
Mental Midget...wow, and you agreed..once again you put me in my place...
"dope" WOW, now really WOW, calling me a drug user...that did it, you'RE right about everything, you'RE obviously an intellectual giant to say I’m a drug user...hey, now I'm up there with the GIANTS of the con's...Bush, Limbaugh...well I guess that is it, the rest of you wouldn't know a good time if Ann Coulter delivered it in a lap dance...but Kudos to you keef!

Left wing lunatic Bill Maher agrees with opus. Let's all just go ahead and convert. Liberals sure are a bunch of spineless cowards!

A couple of days ago David Warren posted an editorial on RealClearPolitics about the two Fox News reporters who were kidnapped and recently released in Gaza. In his article he basically ripped them a new one. According to him they were cowards for acceeding, under threat of death, to their captor's demands. As you recall, the two reporters were videotaped as saying they converted to Islam. According to Warren, they rejected their faith (which even Warren wasn't sure they had -- on any level) and/or rejected their values as members of Western civilization. He claimed they demonstrated "that the West consists of straw men, of men without chests, of men easily pushed over." In a column today, Mark Steyn reiterated the same sentiments.

While reading these accounts, the question that jumped to my mind was... "since when are Fox News reporters (a rare breed to begin with -- outside of the Beltway anyway), or any reporter with any affiliation, expected to form the vanguard for religious purity or The American Way?" After all, they aren't missionaries or envoys, they are just reporters.

Mark has recently indicated that he would "re-up" if he could, but he can't. But according to the present topic he would certainly resist any attempt to force him to convert to Islam -- which is precisely what the Fox News reporters were excoriated by Warren and Steyn for doing, however nominally.

So here's what I'm thinking... we take up a collection for an extended, all-expenses-paid vacation in Gaza for Mark. And if we raise enough money, maybe we could get David Warren and Mark Steyn to join him. What do you think, Mark? I'm guessing it wouldn't be too hard to scrounge up the funds, especially once the rest of the blogosphere finds out about it -- especially the scumbags at DailyKos. This could be your big chance, Mark. And you wouldn't even have to put your money where your mouth is. Just your mouth is sufficient. So... are you game? How truly anxious are you to put your life on the line in the name of fighting the good fight? Think of it... you could become a martyr for Christ -- and for all of Western civilization! In the mean time, maybe you could kidnap some Palestinian reporters (although I suppose that any other form of innocent will do), and force them to convert to Christianity.

But what if they don't? What will you do?

I'm sure many people are wondering, "is Rico really serious??" Or, "has Rico lost his mind?" Perhaps you might want to think about it. All I will say is that I am sick of the dishonesty, the pontificating, the inflation of concern and the conflation of its root causes. I am, in short, sick of the crap. If we want to truly win the GWOT -- or even Iraq -- we have to be willing to jettison the partisan BS and get truly honest. So consider this a mind experiment to that end. Knowing the enemy is critical to success. But it alone is not enough. You have to know yourself as well. And it seems to me that on both scores, the present administration has demonstrated themselves to be woefully inadequate. Blaming the enemy, combined with blaming the "noble (or ignoble, however you view it) opposition on your own side, combined with feeling that you need to conflate the two, is a sure sign that your strategy isn't working.

That rattling sound is me shaking my head.

No Rico, I'm wondering why you're lying. As any clear thinking individual can see the Mark Steyn article relates to how the Arab world views the "conversion."

"for the Fox journalists and the Western media who reported their release, what's the big deal? Wear robes, change your name to Khaled, go on camera and drop Allah's name hither and yon: If that's your ticket out, seize it. Everyone'll know it's just a sham.

But that's not how the al-Jazeera audience sees it. If you're a Muslim, the video is anything but meaningless. Not even the dumbest jihadist believes these infidels are suddenly true believers. Rather, it confirms the central truth Osama and the mullahs have been peddling -- that the West is weak, that there's nothing -- no core, no bedrock -- nothing it's not willing to trade."

Careful CJ, keef may point out that "bunch of spineless cowards!"
is grammatically incorrect...........and redundant-I'm pointing that one out

so how was my original questions at all like what Bill Maher was saying? what exactly was the connection? Are you trying to say that I may be a sheep like you and follow someone else’s ideas because I don't have my own? Is that where you are going?
Hey CJ, go back, read my first post and give me an answer....

Mark -
the message is not for you - it is for the friends of those guys in Florida who were arrested for plotting terrorist attacks.
And no, I don't find the message trivial or stupid. It may end up working.

On another note, it makes sense for Al-Qaida to send out a recruitment message. The latest news has Al-Qaida's #2 got caught in Iraq.

I think I make my position quite clear in this post.

http://rhymeswithright.mu.nu/archives/195098.php

Opus:
You know nothing of my life. You know NOTHING of the choices I've made. You have no idea that I wasn't baptized until it was my choice and that the choices of all of my siblings has been different. Even my parents' faith were different than each others.

It's an idiot indeed who will sit there and pontificate about how "fanatical" people of faith are and clearly uneducated when it seems to me, besides grammar and elementary school name calling, you're not a student of history.

I think the reason you've gotten to me is the huge assumptions you make about the vast majority of the American people who are of faith (and hell, some of them share your political views). Perhaps you should imply their just as bad as muslim extremists out there. You'd score a lot of points.

I also have a MUCH better grasp of the creation of this nation than you do, but you'll argue with a history book and our own founding documents if they disagree with The Daily Kos right?

Why don't you read the Declaration of Independence and get back to me on what the Founders thought about religion? Get back to me about how this nation has progressed when both Houses of Congress since day one have started each session with a prayer, or how the Supreme Court since it's first sessions has begun with the words "God Save the United States and this Honorable Court."

Or how about people of Faith are ALL over government way more than the people who share your view. If you think your side is winning the day, you're in for a rude awakening. Just open your narrowminded eyes and welcome in the bright light of reality.

Opus:
You know nothing of my life. You know NOTHING of the choices I've made. You have no idea that I wasn't baptized until it was my choice and that the choices of all of my siblings has been different. Even my parents' faith were different than each others.

It's an idiot indeed who will sit there and pontificate about how "fanatical" people of faith are and clearly uneducated when it seems to me, besides grammar and elementary school name calling, you're not a student of history.

I think the reason you've gotten to me is the huge assumptions you make about the vast majority of the American people who are of faith (and hell, some of them share your political views). Perhaps you should imply their just as bad as muslim extremists out there. You'd score a lot of points.

I also have a MUCH better grasp of the creation of this nation than you do, but you'll argue with a history book and our own founding documents if they disagree with The Daily Kos right?

Why don't you read the Declaration of Independence and get back to me on what the Founders thought about religion? Get back to me about how this nation has progressed when both Houses of Congress since day one have started each session with a prayer, or how the Supreme Court since it's first sessions has begun with the words "God Save the United States and this Honorable Court." Or how about President since the very first has put his hand on a bible (usually two as a matter of fact) and SWORN to do his job. They could affirm which doesn't have the religious connotation, but only one President has ever done that and that was his second inaugural after swearing the first time. You're sooooo good on history you won't point out any evidence to support yourself. You don't need it. You're intellectually more superior to me, right? There's a seven letter word that starts with A and ends with Hole but it'd be inappropriate for this site. (And I bet me admitting that gave you a bit of a chub knowing you've gotten to someone right)

Or how about people of Faith are ALL over government way more than the people who share your view. If you think your side is winning the day, you're in for a rude awakening. Just open your narrowminded eyes and welcome in the bright light of reality.

Opus,

You know?

Indeed!, We are sheep. But you know? We are happy sheep!
SECURE! full of JOY! We are TOGETHER!!!

What is wrong my friend? Why do you seek to stray? Why do you want to be the LOST SHEEP?

You bring forth the poison tongue! full of deceit!
corruptness, wickedness, lies!

Well, Opus, You know? You have nothing over the Christian, You have no power, and you will NEVER have any power unless it is given from ABOVE!

You are WEAK!
Take Job for instance he thought he was the most powerful of all people, Ah, until God came to him through the storm!!

Attn:

Job chapter 38

"Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm. He said:
Who is this that darkens my counsel with words without knowledge?
Brace yourself like a man;
I will question you,
and you shall answer me.

"WHERE WERE YOU WHEN I LAID THE EARTH'S FOUNDATION?
Tell me if you understand.
Who marked off its dimensions? SURELY YOU KNOW. Who stretched a measuring line across it?
On what were its footings set, or who laid its cornerstone -- while the morningstars sang together and all the angels shouted for joy?

Who shut up the sea behind doors when it burst forth from the womb, When I made the clouds its garment and wrapped it in thick darkness, When I fixed limits for it and set its doors and bars in place, When I said, 'This far you may come and no farther; here is where your proud waves halt'?

"Have you given orders to the morning, or shown the dawn its place, that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it?
The earth takes shape like clay under a seal; its features stand out like those of a garment.
The wicked are denied their light, and their unpraised arm is broken."
Have you journeyed to the springs of the sea or walked in the recesses of the deep?
Have the gates of death been shown to you?
Have you seen the gates of the shadow of death?
Have you comprehended the vast expanses of the earth?
TELL ME, IF YOU KNOW ALL THIS.
"What is the way to the abode of light?
And where does darkness reside?
Can you take them to their places? Do you know the paths to their dwellings?
Surely you know, for you were already born!
You have lived so many years!
"Have you entered the storehouses of the snow or seen the storehouses of the hail, which I reserve for times of trouble, for days of war and battle?
What is the way to the place where the lightning is dispersed, or the place where the east winds are scattered over the earth?
Who cuts a channel for the torrents of rain, and a path for the thunderstorm, to water a land where no man lives, a desert with no one in it, to satisfy a desolate waist land and make it sprout with grass? Does the rain have a father? Who fathers the drops of dew?
From whose womb comes the ice?
Who gives birth to the frost from the heavens When the waters become hard as stone, when the surface of the deep is frozen?
"Can you bind the beautiful Pleiades?
Can you loose the cords of Orion?
Can you bring forth the constellations in their seasons or lead out the Bear with its cubs?
"Do you know the laws of the heavens?
Can you set up [God's] dominion over the earth?

"Can you raise your voice to the clouds and cover youself with a flood of water?
Do you send the lightning bolts on their way?
Do they report to you, 'Here we are'?
Who endowed the heart with wisdom or gave understanding to the mind? Who has the wisdom to count the clouds?
Who can tip over the water jars of the heavens when the dust becomes hard and the clods of earth stick together?"

So, Opus, you need to think about this before you go to saying we are a "bunch of spineless cowards"

Ok?? Little Opus!!

Jeremiah

Mary had a little Opus, little Opus, little Opus. Mary had a little Opus, his fleece was white as snow!

Oh where Oh where has my little Opus gone, Oh where Oh where can he be!

Oh my, so many sheep wasting their time with Opus, Oh when Oh when will they learn!

LLLOLLOLOLLLOLLLOLLL! Tahnks for the Sunday entertainment guys! Now I made the choice to go to evening service as well as morning, g-bye. Baaaaaaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaa Baaaaaaaaaa!

Rico, pick up a copy of "Voice of the Martyrs"(you won't find in just any store, that would be Politically incorrect). You will see that there are many examples-daily-of those who are giving there lives for their belief in Christ! I guess you won't hear on the front page of the N.Y. slimes about the 2 little christian girls that were taken(by Islamo-Fascist, ewww didn't like that did you opie) and beheaded on there way to school in indonesia. Nope, you won't read about my pastors going to a dangerous area in Indonesia to minister to the poor & needy, not even after they lose their heads!

OPUS;

You say

"… Fascism is a specific form of government...a very specific form, it has nothing to do with these terrorists, you're just too caught up in new fangled talking points."

From the American Heritage Dictionary of the English Language;

fas·cism (fshzm)
n.
1. often Fascism

a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.

2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

[Italian fascismo, from fascio, group, from Late Latin fascium, from Latin fascis, bundle.]

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It's you that is caught up in the latest talking points. Words mean things and the Islamic Extremists are indeed fascists in every way shape and form. You leftists have a long history of redefining words in order to win debates. Nice try but if you opened a dictionary now and then you wouldn’t look quite as stupid.

I'm also not going to give up the true and saving faith in Christ for a gutter religion made up of murderous thugs who kill in the name of "God." Nor will I allow anyone to force my wife to wear a garbage bag...nor will I pay homage to a meteorite...Mighty Mo was NOT a perfect man...the only perfect man was Jesus Christ, the Son of God.

wawilliyo
-besides the grammatical errors in your last entry you show you have no grasp on even the most basic ideals of our founders, or reality, if you were baptized when you had a choice…I’ve got a bridge for sale, interested?
....ok, so what does the D of I say about religion? Nothing as far as I know, it mentions God, as Congress does during prayers as the Supreme Court does...SO WHAT (see I found the CAPS Lock key too) terrorist kill in the name of God, they are talking about the SAME God as the D of I...it's the RELIGION twit...Religion and God are not one in the same...one uses the other for control...and what does that control lead to?....Jeremiah-there's your answer...The founders wanted to avoid that control, you twits decided they were wrong….
Hey Jeremiah, how are you my friend? The home letting you use the computer again I see. Good for you, remember to get outside every now and then...remember be good for the sake of being good, not for approval of some imaginary friend. You’ll be ok...I believe in you even when no one else does....just don’t hurt yourself or anyone else K?

and yet bearmanUSMC wasted time posting about wasting time posting about me. you’re right your not a sheep....you're a completely mindless sheep...have fun and the cult house tonight

hey Mel...cut and past without understanding? you’re right you're not a sheep..baaaa
so a group of, lets say 8 islamic extremist idiots in Idaho decide to blow up a train in the name of Jihad..........where's the fascism? OBL......what system of government does he control? Why did they JUST begin to use the term? Election year talking point?
you really are just a blathering brainless.....sheep

Anyone want to disagree w/ my original post?

Opus,

What are you going to say when you answer to Almighty God?

Don't you realize that you will give an account for everything that you say and do, when you stand before God?

Don't you realize that He does'nt need an inquiry to take you from this world?

Don't you realize that you can be released from all this anger and resentment that you hold inside for others, all you have to do is ask the Lord into your life and everything will be all better!!

Jeremiah

Norah,

Covered that the other day - I don't have anything to say about their forced conversion, such as it was, because I cannot judge what went through their hearts and minds while under duress...on the other hand, I pray that if I'm ever in the same position that I won't deny my faith.

What bugged me about those two journalists is the way they crawled on their bellies to the Islamo-fascists after their release.

Opus,

In a manner of speaking, of course, I am one of the Shepherd's sheep...fortunately, no longer a lost sheep. It is true that we Christians hold that a man never stands higher than when he kneels before his Lord.

As for why I reject the promises of Islamo-fascism - well, because fascism is anethema to any conservative, while Islam is, in my view, just a heretical offshoot of Christianity...it is really just Arianism reworked a bit.

I will never kill in the name of God because I cannot do so - I can, however, fight in God's cause - the cause of mercy, justice, charity and defense of the helpless...including those people helplessly under the boot of the Islamo-fascists.

Ricorun,

I cannot seek martyrdom, nor can I forcibly convert anyone to my faith - so, your plan is flawed in the fundamentals. On the other hand, if you wish to take up a collection for people who are being witness to the faith at the extreme risk of their lives, then you can send a few dollars to Persecution.org - a non-denominational group which defends Christians who are being persecuted for their faith.

Opus,
J has definitely got a better handle on the Scriptures, but if you're looking for other enlightenment (I realize you're not, because learning would make you a sheep to whoever taught you), check out the Tao Te Ching. It says: The sage begins no action; the sage only continues and completes actions already begun.

Think about what it means to be a sheep. It means you're listening to a person or to your experience of the world. But how have you come to have an informed opinion of the world if not through listening to the world and experiencing it, and in so doing are you not a sheep to that which has informed and influenced you? Most of those who responded to you are smart enough to know they're sheep, but you don't seem to get it. You probably don't even get that if you protest too much and define yourself by your rebellion, you're doing that because you were informed by someone and/or some experience of this world that such an action is the best way to be. It's interesting that you don't seem to even get as you accuse all religions of hate and persecution that it is the way you define your reality, by intolerance, by what you do not follow rather than by what you do follow, that ultimately leads to hate and persecution, whether it be by someone who claims to be religious or not.

Opus,

One more thing, before I go!

Let me ask you something? Has'nt anyone here on earth ever let you down at any point in your life?
You know just anything?

Well, I can tell you right now that, I can feel pretty confident that somebody has let you down!!

I don't think a person on earth has ever experienced a life without being let down!

But, You see? God is different!, and I can tell you from EXPERIENCE!!

I tried God for many years, and you know He has NEVER as long as I have had FAITH, He has NEVER NOT ONCE has He let me down!!

He has always came through for me, and that's NO LIE!!

...And you see? If you just put a little faith in Him; with a something that you are having trouble with in your life, He'll work it out!!!

GUARANTEED!!

Just look at Abraham; God ordered him to sacrifice His beloved Son, and remember what happened don't you?

Try Him, Test Him, and He'll work wonders in your life!!

I'll be praying for you, Opus.

:)

Jeremiah

Please stop throwing terms around that you obviously do not understand... Words like... Fascism. Most Islamists are not fascists. Fascism is a government dictatorship (i.e. Mussolini). All of these extremists are AGAINST their governments. Do any of you even know the difference between Christianity and Islam??? Did you know that the Koran speaks of Abraham, Noah, Gabriel the Angel... etc etc. Personally I am agnostic on such matters, but it's just funny to me how ignorant people are when they throw around terms, or shout out against something they know nothing about... Go buy a Koran, go read up on the Saudi government. Just pick up a history book and learn what fascism really is... Just do a little bit of homework instead of slapping a "Support the Troops" bumper sticker on your car and go back to watching "American Idol"... If the Bush administration had done half their homework on the Middle east our brave troops wouldn't be in the mess they're in now. I am a school bred conservative who is just a bit sick of having my party stolen by a bunch of jabbering sock puppets... And, as for Donald Rumsfeld comparing Anti war Americans to Neville Chamberlain... Chamberlain was most famous for his picture with Hitler as they shake hands... you're a fine one to talk Mr. Rumsfeld, all it takes is a simple google to search to see that you were shaking Saddam's hands when he was gassing those helpless Kurds. What happened to my party???!!!....

Opus, don't worry, when one of the Islamofascists cuts off your head I will be sure to throw a towel over it for you.

By the way, why is it wrong for us to call these Muslim nuts by the correct name, namely fascist, but it is perfectly fine for Durbin to refer to our servicemen as Nazi's?

Answer that you hypocrite.

Walcrowe,

Ah the typical infantile liberal argument. If you are a Republican then pigs truly can fly.

Your comparison to Rumsfeld and Chamberlain based on photographs is sophmoric at the very least and the epitome of ignorance.

Chamberlain tried to placate Hitler. Rumsfeld is trying to kill OBL. Regardless of what pictures you may be referring to.

See the difference? Given your skills in deduction I am not sure you can.

(via LGF) Palestinians Threaten to Kidnap, Convert, Murder

CAIRO, Egypt [AP]- Palestinian militants who held two Fox News journalists hostage for nearly two weeks threatened in a statement posted online Saturday to abduct non-Muslims visiting the Palestinian territories and kill them unless their demands were met.

The statement, posted in the name of the Holy Jihad Brigades on a Web site frequently used by militants, said the group would kill any hostages it takes unless they converted to Islam, paid a ransom or Muslim prisoners were exchanged for their release.

“Any infidel blood will have no sanctity,” the group said in the statement.
**

Also according to LGF, "Please note that not a single Muslim leader in the entire world has publicly condemned the forced conversion of Centanni and Wiig."

That rattling sound is me shaking my head.

Actually, the rattling sound is your pea brain hitting your skull...

Walcrowe,

"Most Islamists are not fascists. Fascism is a government dictatorship (i.e.Mussolini)." by: Walcrowe

False. Islam is both a religion and a government dictatorship. All about Islam:

Islam is not only a "religion", but a "total way of life"; there is no distinction between the sacred and the secular, the religious leader is the political leader, and every aspect of the individual life should be Islam: Dress, food, and every detail of the family or social life...

What may appear as separate compartments of life simply does not exist for the Muslim. A Muslim does not say, 'This is business and this is moral." Moral, spiritual, economic, social and governmental are inter-related, because everything, including Caesar, belongs to Allah and to Allah alone.

"All of these extremists are AGAINST their governments." by: Walcrowe

Islamic terrorists like Al Qaeda are against the Saudi government because they don't believe it practices the "right form" of Islamic rule. These Islamic terrorists want to overthrow the existing governments and establish their own Islamic theocratic Caliphate which would unite the Middle East under their rule. So yes, all Islamists are fascists, or more accurately theocratic Nazis.

Let's see....That nutjob from Orange County, who is now fully showing his bearded face, and rag on his head, is out to recruit "new members"...LOL,
Yeah, cause it's such a wonderful way of life, the
"Islamic/fascist way of life"...especially for the
women, who are still living like 5th class citizens of that nutty religion? they are still walking 20ft. behind their 'macho mentypes', and
still must cover themselves up-As the midget Pres. of Iran is once again proposing. (only eyes should be seen, under all that mass of fabric) Yeah, that, and being 'stoned for any and all accusations by the male population', and being arrested for not dressing properly or wanting to drive, and have some sort of progressive life, with equal freedom as their male counterparts-
is definitely going to be a "large drawing card" for so many of us wanting to accept that way of life,over our 'freedom, individuality and freedom of all religions'....Yeah, it's a real hard one to pass up-

Those people are just plain nuts, to think that anyone in their right mind, would want to join their wonderful way of life-caves and all, and go "backwards in the 21st century". Just sorry I have to pass up that offer.

All this talk about sheep has got me confused--did Opie say his "first" was a sheep?

Opus & Walcrowe;

According to the American Heritage Dictionary anyone who participates in a movement based on or advocating a system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, and suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship is, by definition, a Fascist.

Let's examine the Islamofascists to see if they fit this definition. They want a single world government under a Caliph, a non-elected, God appointed ruler for all of mankind.
Hmmmmm... So they are advocating a government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator. That's one.

Under this Caliph people will be given the choice of converting to islam, accepting Dhimmitude or dying. Those accepting dhimmitude will find their right to own property severely restricted: be required to pay a poll tax; will have to wear distinctive clothing and give deference to Muslims. According to historians such as Bat Ye'or, dhimmitude is designed to bring about psychological and social degradation of non-muslims, in some ways similar to slavery.
Hmmmm.... So the government they advocate will be marked by stringent socioeconomic controls. That’s two.

If you examine how they ran Afghanistan where most music was banned the government seized control of all print publications, as well as radio and television broadcasts. Entertainment and news shows that had been on the air for decades were cancelled. In fact, the hard-line rulers went so far as to make it illegal to own a television, including satellite dishes that provided citizens with international programming. Dissenters were tortured and murdered. Look at the murder of Theo van Gogh and the riots and deaths that resulted from the Danish cartoons. The fatwas declared against Salman Rushdie and others. The message is clear; say anything that the Islamofascists don’t like and they will kill you. The terrorists are terrorizing their own people to stifle dissent and compel obedience and are exporting that terrorism in an attempt create a world government based on these principles.
Hmmmm... So the government the Islamofascists advocate and are working to create use terror and censorship to maintain control of their populations. That’s three.

You morons are the ones who use terms you don’t understand. Every time some talking head on your side spouts some nonsense you march in lockstep without ever examining their premises, what the words they use actually mean or even doing the most rudimentary fact checking. The idiot who came up with this talking point is guilty of the fallacy of arbitrary redefinition, specifically high redefinition;

High Redefinition: A "high" redefinition is the opposite of a low one, that is, a redefinition is called "high" when the redefined term has a narrower extension than originally. For instance, if the word "bird" were redefined as "feathered flying animal", then flightless birds such as ostriches and penguins would no longer be "birds". So, the defining characteristic of a high redefinition is that the original term applies to some cases that the term in its redefined meaning does not.

It’s probably a waste of my time, but my hope is that one of you will someday recognize how you are being manipulated into believing things that have no basis in fact by uncritically accepting whatever the latest talking point memo or essay says.

The great majority of people in this country are christians. That means that the great majority of democrats are christians. Why do you keep trying to accuse christian democrats of being closet moslems? Your divisive comments make no sense, unless your just trying to provoke a response. What's the matter with you?

Mark,
great, but you never answered the question...

Jermemiah
great, love God all you want, I will too, it's your religion that makes you a mindless sheep, and that has NOTHING to do with God.

Keef,
calling your mom a sheep? that's not right

Mel,
you're a cut and past idiot with no idea what he is talking about....you really think they're looking to form a governement? keep trying Mel.

-in a rush, sorry for any gramer errors

Opus;

They ( the islamofascists) repeatedly claim to want to form a Caliphate that rules the planet. If you read their writings, listen to the audio tapes/videos they release or go on their web sites this is their oft repeated goal. I think they mean it. I think we should act as if they were serious about accomplishing their goals. I think it's too dangerous not to. They are fascists, only an idiot would deny this. I do use cut and paste when quoting others as it precludes the possibility of error.

Opus,

What is wrong with my religion?

My religion in Christianity!!

I don't hate others because they choose to worship a false god!

Christianity is FAITH in the ONE AND ONLY Creator of this unviverse!

Do you dis-like or hate Christians for their faith and love in the one and only who shed His innocent blood for All of mankind?

Furthermore, Christ taught us love, joy, peace and happiness, and a one of a kind at that!!

What does Islam teach us? Well, It teaches HATE for Christians, any and all Christians!

Is Islam a secure religion? No, Simply because they base their beliefs in a false God Allah, Muhammed, whoever.
Did Allah, Muhammed raise from the dead? No, Their remains lay still!

If Allah, Muhammed could'nt save themselves from perishing, How can we put faith in them? That's just it, We can't, because they were just ordinary sinners like every other human being on earth! Who exalted themselves as rulers and idols! Blinding people into an eternity without a savior; that savior being Jesus Christ!

So what shall I say to you?

That my religion as you say, "has NOTHING to do with God"? HA HA No my friend!, I can tell you with utmost pride and fervor, that MY religion, has EVERYTHING! to do with God, because MY religion IS God, and He reigns ETERNAL on His Throne in heaven! my fortuity is bright because I have the message of HOPE within my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and You can too!! Just have a little faith in Jesus bye and bye!! and one of these days they'll be no more sorrow, no more pain, no more tear to dim the eye!

What then? That I, and ALL Christians are, as you say "mindless sheep"? As you wish. But Just remember! you will give an account; for everything you say and do before Almighty God!!

"every knee shall bow, and tongue cofess, that He is Lord"

Jeremiah

Jeremiah

I have read the bible too, and it says what you say it does, that does not make any of it true. I myself do not understand why you would be so weak as to submit to such an evil, malicious, cruel, racist prick like the god described in the bible is.

If what you know as love, is the same crap that's in the bible, it is no wonder sons of Nimrod like you are supporting a war that kills so many innocent civilians. Keep preaching about love and forgiveness, while you hypocritically encourage Bush to bomb on. I would love to be proven wrong at the time of judgment, and face this idol of yours because he has a lot to give an account for, if any of the bible is true. Then I'll bask in the warmth of hell, with the whole Bush administration. I have read how God hardened the heart of Pharaoh, so he wouldn't release "his"(the racist pricks) people, and so he could smite Pharaoh some more to prove he was God. Sounds a lot like Bush. Read the damn book, and fear your God, as you were intended to. At 5 years old, in Sunday-school, I looked around at the kids, and adults that were all buying the ridiculous stories being told. scared the hell out of me really, I though I had been kidnapped by some cult. At 5 I could see through all the fear that keep you week minded people sucked in, not to mention the false promise of an eternal life. It's sad that I have to admit to being the same species as you. Your God is a spiteful unforgiving half wit, that didn't know rain doesn't come from jars. The bible, and gods word as you have claimed, is full of misconceptions that an elementary school drop out could spot as false. Get a grip, the book was written by intelligent parents as a well intended scam.

Congratulations Jeremiah, you just meat the Anti-Christ, now back away slowly, you don't want your religion in jeopardy. You wouldn't be the first or the last to lose their faith by listening to me.

Mr. Harold,

You really need to re-think your position!

Satan has definitely taken you in!

Why live your life looking forward to nothing, when you have the option of accepting God's love for you! While you can!!

Just remember this: God's Spirit will not always contend with man! and that it's better to accept Him while you have the oppurtunity!!

With that said, I feel pretty comfortable knowing that I will spend the rest of my days on earth accepting Jesus as my Savior and Furthermore knowing that an eternity of happiness awaits!

But, If you wish to see yourself as the Anti-Christ then go-ahead, live the rest of your days as a fool!
I can't force you to believe, the choice is yours!

But I will NOT back down, because God's love is far greater than any of Satan's foolishness and lies, that you bring to the table!

"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord God Almighty, who was, and is, and is to come"

Jeremiah

Jeremiah
I have plenty to look forward to every day. Real love, with warm flesh and laughter. I enjoy each day with the true knowledge that my time on earth is it.I have read the dribble you call truth, you lack an understanding of the world in ways most consider common knowledge. All your questions are not unanswered without god, in fact most of us have a real education regarding earth sciences.

Be saved, you need it, whatever your age is, you are to far behind to catch up with reality. In the end, is the end, not another life where you will be rewarded for your servitude, just a cold hole in the ground, but it doesn't matter, your dead. You wont even be able to look back with regret for waisting the only time you were given on the scam you got sucked into.

Like I said before, the god described in the bible is not full of love, it's full of vengeance and fear-mongering, just like the other idiot you worship in the GOP.