I was pretty young during the Vietnam era, and only vaguely remember the anti-war protests. But looking from a historical perspective it's pretty easy to see what the protestors were really saying, whether they realized it or not: Hand Vietnam to the communists! Sadly, that's exactly what we ended up doing. Now, we have the updated version: Hand Iraq to the terrorists! The great irony of the "Iraq is Bush's Vietnam" canard is that it could turn out to be true - if Bush does what his critics apparently want.

Since you like to mention the still-not-commenting Miss Kopechne, I wonder if you've ever seen TV series "Investigative Reports" episode about the Chappaquidick incident. (Sorry if I got the spelling wrong.) The show's theory was that Kennedy decided that he shouldn't be seen arriving back at Edgartown with this single woman, so he got out of the car and let her drive herself back, while he would walk. Since she would have been far less familiar with the island, she (rather than he) made the wrong turn onto the wooden bridge. He would not have gone to the house near the bridge because he had walked back to Edgartown by the correct route, and would not have known until later that anything had happened to either her or his car.

I've been getting the e-mails from the DNC or whoever as well. I started replying to them, highlighting the hypocrisy in each. I especially enjoyed writing to the windbag Kennedy today, suggesting that the best "new direction" for us would be for the voters of Massachusetts to retire him!

Replying has been very theraputic, and they keep me on the e-mail list anyway!

Republicans in states that matter--stay at home in November at your own peril. For all the dissatisfaction you may have with the party, can you really afford to have the Kennedy's and Pelosi's running the country and emptying you wallets? Harry Reid-tard as majority leader? Pelosi as House Speaker, third in line for the presidency? John Conyers, chairman of the House Judicial Committee? Charlie Rangel chairing the House Ways and Means Committee? Jack Murtha, House Majority Leader?

It's your choice, and things ain't lookin' too good right now. War

things ain't lookin' too good right now. War

Posted by: keefer at August 15, 2006 08:32 PM

That's one true statement from someone who avoids the truth whenever he can. Keefer, didn't think you had it in you.

Sorry, troll, I don't associate with the enemy within. War

Bigfoot:

I can't agree with the documentary you told about,
in that in all records(legal documents) when Ted told about his "Heroic efforts to save MaryJo" he
stated about his exhaustion at try to save her.
Bullsh** He worried about saving his own fat ass and didn't notify authorities until the early morning hours(through his attornies. I too, have seen this reenacted, and it is clear: "Like most of the Kennedy's, this sot, protected his own life
and political career, and was responsible for the death of this girl"....He was a 'chip off the ole
Kennedy block, Joe-The Rum Runner, and his brothers, Jack and Robert, each of whom were not the most truthful to their wives, and carried on
raucious affairs in their lives"....John, by the way, was Bill Clinton's "Hero"- There were so many
parallels to his Idol and himself, it isn't even funny. The voters of Mass. deserve the kind of
political b.s. they have gotten all these years, as they seem to still "pander and grovel after the
distinction of the Camelot era-which was a complete farse, that was, and still is fed to the public".

Mark-

You were past-due for a Kennedy rant...

Was your surrender in the 1970's quip about Vietnam... because the Republicans and Conservatives were the people who us out of there.

I agree, Kennedy is a crotch stain on the senate, but until the people of Mass. vote him out, what are we to do?

Bigfoot....
do more research other than that ridiculous tv show..and if truth be known, the Kennedy's probably had their grimy little paws over that being produced..
in any case, he even tried to get one of his cousins to take the fall for him..smart guy ..said, no thanks!!!
And what was the reason for the neck brace, and the fact he was sopping wet when he checked in the Edgartown Inn?????????????????

No matter what the TV show said, Ted admitted being in the water. Remember the entire state of Mass, and certainly the media, was "owned" by Joe Kennedy at the time. Not even Walter Cronkite would have dared to refer to anything the Kennedy Machine said as "spin". Even he would have had a long walk off a short pier.

Clashes erupted in two of Iraq's largest cities on Wednesday and a bomb killed eight in the capital, highlighting the precarious security situation as U.S. and Iraqi forces try to stem sectarian violence.

Armed gangs fought a pitched battle with Iraqi forces for more than an hour in Basra, Iraq's second largest city where Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki declared a state of emergency two months ago.

WITH THINGS GOING THIS WELL IN IRAQ I THINK WE SOULD CONTINUE GOING IN THE SAME DIRECTION WE ARE ! NOT !!

I hate Ted Kennedy. He is such an obvious punching bag and definitely is leading the part of the left that is bringing down our great party.

Xango - I wasn't trying to do any "research", just recalling something off the top of my head. Neck brace? Wouldn't that have come later, after the proper authorities got Teddy some medical attention? Did they determine his neck was injured or did he merely ask for one? Was he wet arriving back in Edgartown? I think it's possible that he arrived back at the hotel, found out she hadn't gotten back, learned where his car was, thought up his story of driving the car himself, and got himself wet to make it appear that he, too, had gone over the bridge. I said the show had a "theory", which I found interesting for a few reasons, but not whether I agreed or disagreed with it. Like the murder of his brother John, the "official" version is not without its own holes (such as how long it takes to swim and the time of his arrival), so we may never know exactly what happened that day. But then, it's always fun to speculate.

Jo - If I recall correctly, the whole Camelot thing was largely made up after JFK's death. Yeah, JFK and Mr. Bill are/were two of a kind. Kind of ironically appropriate for there to be a picture of the two shaking hands.

I find it funny that old Rum runner Joe picked his son Joseph jr. to be the star and he was killed in WWII. Next the mantle fell on the shoulders of war hero and PT-109 skipper Jack, who was a known womanizer, and who was assassinated in office. The next star - closer to the bottom of the Camelot barrel - was Bobby, the attorney general who carried on with Marilyn Monroe before she committed suicide and who was killed by Sirhan Sirhan - an Arab - while campaigning in LA. All that was left was the black sheep of the family, Chappaquiddick Teddy, unfaithful husband, disgraced father, and the man responsible for the death of Mary Jo.

How far Camelot has fallen and how irrelevant has become the Kennedy family. All we have left are a couple of drug-addled offspring who will never amount to anything significant and the door will be closed on this family, mercifully. Good riddance too.

Rev, I'm afraid the voters of Massachusetts are so brain-dead, that they will automatically vote for the name 'Kennedy'.

I forget who said it but it's a wonderful quote,

" A liberal is a someone with both feet planted firmly in the air and a conservative is someone with both feet planted firmly in his mouth"

Well looks like our conservative friends have done it again folks.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/08/16/allen.volunteer/index.html

Well looks like our conservative friends have done it again folks.

Do you really want to go down that road, Leftorium? How quickly you forget Jesse Jackson's "Hymie town" comment, or Robert Byrd's "white nigger" comment or Hillary Clinton's comments about Ghandi running a gas station in St. Louis or this recent gem from Joe Biden.

Bigfoot:

I Know, the "Camelot Farse" was brought about by\\
I believe Pierre Salinger? After, JFK was killed.
My point is, that after that, it was used and abused by the lemmings of the Kennedys and the Kennedy's themselves, to keep this falicy going.
To me, the voters of Mass. truly are like Ostrich's, with their heads in the sand, who refuse to look "at the real world of the Kennedy Clan", "John Fraud Kerry", and they DO deserve the
kind of politico phony's they get, since they tend
to keep them in office. These people need to be honest with themselves about these phoney Dems.

Bigfoot, your naivete is astounding. This television show was clearly designed to appeal to those too young to remember the tragedy in question....and those too dumb to bother to learn the facts.

But Kennedy never denied being in the car, or being the driver. It is pretty stilly to come along so much later with some goofball theory that Mary Jo drove herself into the water and poor Teddy, "found out she hadn't gotten back" and then proceeded to do some seriously deranged things.

If he was afraid to be seen with a single woman, then why go out of his way to set up a scenario which was false: ".....thought up his story of driving the car himself, and got himself wet to make it appear that he, too, had gone over the bridge" to place himself in her company after he was home free?

No, it is NOT "fun to speculate". It is crazy to indulge in such insanity. The man drove the car. He admitted to driving the car. What is more, he got free of the car and swam away and then tried to hide his involvement in the accident, till it became impossible to do so. He did this because he was a married man who was driving drunk in a car with a single woman he had been boinking, and he didn't want this to affect his political future. So he made the decision to let her die.

Or did your fantasy show mention that she had been alive in the car and trying to escape when she drowned? Did they mention that assistance from someone else might have saved her life?

What makes Teddy Kennedy so reprehensible is that when he had to choose between letting a young woman die or being linked with her in an adulterous relationship, he sacrificed her to try to save his already shaky "reputation".

And what is so sad is that in Massachussets, he could have been boinking her on the steps of the state capitol, and he would still have been elected. Those Massholes surely do love their Kennedys. Mary Jo did not have to be sacrificed at all. Teddy's blatant drunkeness, his womanizing, his incoherence, his lack of dignity, none of these has interfered in the slightest with his reelection over and over again.