The Iraqi Army seems to be making progess. The progress is not as much as I would like nor has it been as quick as we probably would have expected back in 2003. The progess they are making is a hopeful sign. The biggest problem seems to be the Iraqi police forces. They have been infiltrated by militia groups. This is a huge problem but it is not insurmountable. If we can work to keep Iran and its proxies out of the Iraqi political process, over a period of time we can get this under control.

I see nothing in that article in regards to fighting terrorists. "U.S. troops and Iraqi security forces have stepped up operations in Baghdad to curtail deadly sectarian violence"

Sectarian violence, you know that civil war over there that no one here wants to call a civil war, as that would show a failed policy.

Those aren't terrorists. Wheres the real terrorists? Bin Laden? Where's he? How about the Anthraz killer? Where's he? Why hasn't Bush done anything about these terrorists that have actually killed american civilians?

axis,

Once again you're off in Fantasy Land, failing to see the point, failing to realize how President Bush and the administration are trying to help secure the homeland and stop the terroristic threats. You're only proving Marks point over again. Did you see on the news today? They just thwarted a terrorist attempt to blow up a plane, or several planes for that matter, with liquid explosives. Does this tend to make you believe that the administration is failing?

If you would, I'd like for you to go back and read the post I made in the Lamont Victory thread. I don't know if you read it or not, there have already been several posts made since I made mine. But, I tried to put in a few grains of truth within that post. I hope you can see them there. Albeit I was really angry when I made that post, I still hold firm to everything I said there, honestly.

One more thing ... I got an assignment for ya, show one thing that the democrats have done to help in the fight against terrorism.

Lucas.

"[S]tepped up operations in Baghdad"
Wow, that really is good news -- real progress!
Just imagine; only three-and-a-half years into the war and we are already working on securing the capitol. At this rate, we'll be almost there in another 40 or 50 years!
Viva Bush!

"[S]tepped up operations in Baghdad"
Wow, that really is good news -- real progress!
Just imagine; only three-and-a-half years into the war and we are already working on securing the capitol. At this rate, we'll be almost there in another 40 or 50 years!
Viva Bush!

Lucas,
Actually, that was the Brits -- but who's counting, eh?
At this time all we're seeing is yet another convenient "terrorist" bust at a time when the news is very bad for Bush and Blair. You'll notice, no doubt, that this story has trumped the Iraq debacle, Bush's criminal negligence in reigning in Israel, the loss by Lieberman in Connecticut -- and the Decider deciding to go on vacation in the midle of a crisis.
How many times have we seen the "terror level" elevate when the Bushies or their lap dog need a boost?

Iraqi Military has it going on... If we could just get the police up and running... like they should be... we would about have this sucker whoopped.
AubreyJ.........

Salvelinus,
ABC news does mention FBI involvement, actually.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2006/08/the_anatomy_of_.html

"One more thing ... I got an assignment for ya, show one thing that the democrats have done to help in the fight against terrorism."
~Lucas

Of the Democrats,29 Senators and 81 Representatives voted to invade Iraq. *chuckle*

Um Axis, what do you call people that plant bombs in shrines to kill worshippers and kidnap people to shoot them in the head? Boyscouts? How dare we call them terrorists.

Bravo Mark,

When your right, your right. Things are better. We are almost, not quite, ready to stand down, the Iraqi army is taking the lead. Things are not just better, but WAY better.

But, those islamofacists are a sneaky bunch. I bet what they do next is go back to fallujah, (I hate spelling those weird middle eastern names)and do more terrorisn' there. The ever strengthening Iraqi army will follow them there and make that area all safer too. Then those sneaky bastids will move again. It may take time, but we aint got nothing but time. Spreading freedom and democracy is not an overnight project you know.

I kinda picture the situation like one of those little anexity dolls you keep on your desk. The ones where the eyes and mouth pop out as you choke the little guy nice and tight. Right now we got them islamofacists in a death grip. Their beady eyes are poppin out. A little more pressure and we'll squeeze that little buggers head right off.

We're right where we want to be.

May God bless George Bush and all who support him unfailingly.

Salvelinus,

Perhaps if the liberal left Democrats had not done all they could to encourage and motivate the terrorists in Iraq and around the world, we wouldn't have the near civil war in Iraq now.

The terrorists quickly saw the spineless weak willed Democrats as their ally. They used the Democratic "cut and run" rhetoric and propaganda to their advantage. The Democrats cite the terrorist attacks against our troops as a reason to leave hi-tail it and run and leave Iraq to the terrorists as their new base of operations. So what better way to help the Democrats -- their supporters -- to defeat President Bush than to blow up more Americans and Iraqi families.

When President Bush and the Right stood firm against those terrorist attacks, they changed their tactics. They started blowing up the mosques and families of the competing groups -- Shiites and Sunnis -- and blamed the other for those attacks. They knew there would be reprisals -- they counted on it. And what did the liberal Democrats do? They cried "civil war"... get us out of their -- quick, pronto! The liberal Democrats fell -- charged -- right into the terrorist's propaganda campaign. Seeing that the threat of civil war gave the terrorists even more help from the Democrats, they worked even harder at killing more Iraqis -- and American soldiers -- in hopes of providing more fodder for the Democrats and their promise to run from the fight and leave Iraq to terrorism.

What do the DimOcRats do? They do exactly what the terrorist want them to do!!!

Every American soldier killed or injured, every Iraqi family killed or maimed, every terrorist attack is a vote for liberal Democrats. The terrorists casts their votes for "cut and run" liberal Democrats each and every day. Our soldiers and the Iraqi are paying for those votes and the liberal propaganda with their lives!!!

AAR

Those aren't terrorists. Wheres the real terrorists?

Princeton University's dictionary describes a terrorist:

a radical who employs terror as a political weapon; usually organizes with other terrorists in small cells; often uses religion as a cover for terrorist activities

And others add to it "attacks on civilians" as a means of spreading terror.

With that definition you are wrong - I'm so surprised about that - NOT. According to your ranting, a terrorist is only a terrorist if they kill Americans? Hahaha! Those "sectarian violence workers" in Baghdad ARE killing Americans.

The sectarian violence in Iraq is civilian against civilian and is aimed at creating terror - the classic definition. People in Sunni neighborhoods are reporting getting letters in their mailboxes with an AK-47 bullet and a suggestion to move out of the area. That is terrorism. If they ignore the warnings, they are killed. That is terrorism.

Let me give you a couple pointers: First take your fingers out of your ears and second, open your eyes. Then pull your head out of that dark place in which you find it (take a deep breath to avoid the smell) and - here's the tough part for you - wise up.

raker13,

*scratches heads*

Something not right here???

The other day you call me a "zealot"

and today you support the President!!

So which is it???

I HOPE you do in fact, support the President!!!

Jeremiah

When ever I read someones post accurately describing the democrats weak kneed position on Iraq my heart swells with pride.

I thank God for the republican leadership this country has to offer. Our great leaders, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Condi, Rummy, Karl, our new energy secretary (forgot his name), Senator Frist, Mr. Allen, Mr. Hastert, on and on, can and do provide leadership in times as these.

I think we ought to flip off a democrat whenever we get a chance. They're the ones with blood on their hands.

I think it is a fair assessment that democrats are responsible for every soldier killed or maimed in the line of duty. Our republican leadership can only do so much. They are only human. Everytime we recognize a failure, or area to improve (looking on the bright side), who's there to trumpet the issue. The dirty dems. If we look closely at where the money spent in Iraq is going, the intelligence gathered, strick adherance to the Geneva conventions, and the diplomacy used in removing the paper covering the roots of instability, we see the republican efforts overwhelmingly obvious in fighting the war on terror. We can then see the dems working, slaving, toiling, at undermining the work of our President and his staff.

I agree wholeheartedly with those who post writing about the donk's positions actually aiding and assisting those who would terrorize us.

If the donk's would have supported the republican effort at comabatting terrorism, spreading freedom and democracy worldwide we would not be in this mess now. Yes, I wrote mess. It is a mess. It's all the donk's fault. The unpatriotic rabble better get on board if they know what is good for them.

May God bless George Bush, Laura and the kids, and all who support him unfailingly.

Jeremiah

You can't be that naive, man. Why the childlike responses? Are you fooling with us, Jeremiah?

I'M GONNA POST THAT AGAIN!!

I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!!

WONDERFUL!! WONDERFUL!!

YOU DO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT!!!!
..................................................

"When ever I read someones post accurately describing the democrats weak kneed position on Iraq my heart swells with pride.

I thank God for the republican leadership this country has to offer. Our great leaders, President Bush, Vice President Cheney, Condi, Rummy, Karl, our new energy secretary (forgot his name), Senator Frist, Mr. Allen, Mr. Hastert, on and on, can and do provide leadership in times as these.

I think we ought to flip off a democrat whenever we get a chance. They're the ones with blood on their hands.

I think it is a fair assessment that democrats are responsible for every soldier killed or maimed in the line of duty. Our republican leadership can only do so much. They are only human. Everytime we recognize a failure, or area to improve (looking on the bright side), who's there to trumpet the issue. The dirty dems. If we look closely at where the money spent in Iraq is going, the intelligence gathered, strick adherance to the Geneva conventions, and the diplomacy used in removing the paper covering the roots of instability, we see the republican efforts overwhelmingly obvious in fighting the war on terror. We can then see the dems working, slaving, toiling, at undermining the work of our President and his staff.

I agree wholeheartedly with those who post writing about the donk's positions actually aiding and assisting those who would terrorize us.

If the donk's would have supported the republican effort at comabatting terrorism, spreading freedom and democracy worldwide we would not be in this mess now. Yes, I wrote mess. It is a mess. It's all the donk's fault. The unpatriotic rabble better get on board if they know what is good for them.

May God bless George Bush, Laura and the kids, and all who support him unfailingly."

SRAY,
Believe it or not, I did see that (I sometimes read other sources besides B4B) -- along with information that Americans were not involved until "very late in the investigation" -- and there is nothing to suggest any American had anything to do with the arrests.
That sounds a lot like, "the Americans were kept informed in the later stages of the investigation" -- spun, of course, to make it sound like the FBI was an active participant.

But raker, We don't flip them off, We pray for them!!

Jeremiah

I do not want to pull the focus of the thread, but I must butt in and thank Jeremiah for the kind words.

Sometimes I feel like that person who has a devil,(the democrats) on one shoulder and an angel (the republicans) on my other. Just like those cartoons. I hear both voices but sometimes one is louder than the other. Today, I am able to take my finger and flick the devil (the democrats) from my shoulder. When I do that the feeling is fantastic. I triumph over evil (the democrats).

Right now I can see that when I listen to the devil (the democrats) I am doing nothing but wallowing with the hogs at the trough. I must wash in the river of salvation and free myself. This way, when I stand with the angels (the republicans) am able to see that the republican way is the right way and the way of God.

So for now, I step out of the hog trough and the democratic stink assoiciated with it and cleanse myself in the bright light of republicanism.

Help me, pray for me. Thank you.

May God bless George Bush and all who support him unfailingly.

raker13: "Sometimes I feel like that person who has a devil,(the democrats) on one shoulder and an angel (the republicans) on my other."

Well, at least you're better at the game than Conservative to the Core, lol!

raker13,

I will indeed pray for you!!

This is nothing to take lightly, it's NO joke!!

I mean the TRUTH will set you FREE!!

I appreciate your kind words for the President!!

So try and help us out ALL the time!!

Jeremiah

Salvelinus,

Here's another for you:

" "We have been looking at meetings, movements, travel, spending and the aspirations of a large group of people. This has involved close co-operation not only between agencies and police forces in the UK but also internationally." "
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1230422,00.html

While it's more than understandable that the Britons were the lead in this case; it was on their turf after all, it is equally understandable that many nations were both consulted and kept in the loop informationally. At the same time, I feel they are playing their hand very close to their vest in an effort to keep alive any outstanding leads or methods there might be.

Salvelinus,

Here's another for you:

" "We have been looking at meetings, movements, travel, spending and the aspirations of a large group of people. This has involved close co-operation not only between agencies and police forces in the UK but also internationally." "
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1230422,00.html

While it's more than understandable that the Britons were the lead in this case; it was on their turf after all, it is equally understandable that many nations were both consulted and kept in the loop informationally. At the same time, I feel they are playing their hand very close to their vest in an effort to keep alive any outstanding leads or methods there might be.

Can't ya'll see raker13 is trying to make a fool of me!!

Jeremiah

Wrong, wrong, wrong, Jeremiah-my focus was the obvious fact that democrats govern on thier knees.

To quote AAR:
"The terrorists quickly saw the spineless weak willed Democrats as their ally. They used the Democratic "cut and run" rhetoric and propaganda to their advantage."

No truer words were ever written. Those two sentences say it all in a nutshell. I particularly like the "spineless and weak willed" part.

Jeremiah, I do not expect you to believe me right off the bat, I must prove to you I'm real. Believe me when I tell you that your one of the people I look forward to reading on this blog. I believe you represent the type of American who posts here. You go get em!

raker13,

"They(liberals) govern on their knees"? praying to WHO? The devil!!

"I believe you represent the type of American who posts here."

Who-ever that may be? It's certainly isn't whatever concoction you may come up with!! But I can clear that up for you real quick!!
I am here standing for TRUTH, JUSTICE, AND WHICH IS THE AMERICAN WAY!! Just like my commander in Chief!!

which in your confused eyes is hitler, satan, stalin whoever!, you kooks never cease to being the blind deceiving hate-mongers that you are!!
NOTHING BUT HYPOCRITES YOU ARE!

And you think you are going to intimidate me and AAR because you know that we stand for the truth!
Well you don't intimidate us, you think your something don't you? HA,HAAAA Wait till lection day when republicans by the millions storm the voting booths!!, to look at you would be like looking at a wilted leaf! HA,HAAAAA!!!

AND YEAH, I know, you look forward to reading my posts, because just like I said you know your are doomed to defeat!! and it's bothering you!
Well, You bother me MORE!!

YOU KNOW WHY?

SOME WORTHY ADVICE AMERICA:
It is a risk!! Not worth the taking, to let the liberals take America back!! because of their agendas!!
ECSPECIALLY THE ONE LIKE RAKER13!!
double-minded creatures, that's what they are!!

Jeremiah

"HA,HAAAA Wait till lection day when republicans by the millions storm the voting booths!!,"

Sorry, Jeremiah, but you will have to wait in line just like everyone else and vote in an orderly manner. No storming the voting booths, you hear me! This is America where the laws of decorum are enforced.

CO,

Yeah, and the good part about it, you don't get to vote in America!!

NI NI NA BOO BOO!! LOL!!

pathetical.

Jeremiah

-- If planting bombs that kill civilians makes oen a terrorist, then so must the same be for those that drop bombs that also kill worshippers and civilians, IE: The US and now Israel, the #1 and #2 biggest terrorist states in the world

Um Axis, what do you call people that plant bombs in shrines to kill worshippers and kidnap people to shoot them in the head? Boyscouts? How dare we call them terrorists.

-- If planting bombs that kill civilians makes oen a terrorist, then so must the same be for those that drop bombs that also kill worshippers and civilians, IE: The US and now Israel, the #1 and #2 biggest terrorist states in the world

Um Axis, what do you call people that plant bombs in shrines to kill worshippers and kidnap people to shoot them in the head? Boyscouts? How dare we call them terrorists.

Looks like we have annother spoofer here "Axis" with a small a.

They say that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so I am flattered :)

Axis-wannbe, it seems to me that during the American civil war, many atrocious things happened, along the same lines as what Shites are doing to Sunnis and vice versa, and yet you will be hard pressed to find these people in your own bloody history labelled as terrorists.

Its a civil war over there, full blown, just different from the American civil war, which is to be expected due to the differences in culture, but a civil war nonetheless.

There is ZERO risk that these insurgents will export their activities over to America, they are fighting one another in hopes of one day controlling the country.

These are CLEARLY different from the Osama types, which will bring the terror here and that you Republicans have such a dismal record of catching or killing.

axis,

You really should go look at what they say...certainly, there is an intra-terrorist battle for position in Iraq, but they won't stop with Iraq, if they ever did gain it...

Mark,

I have to disagree with your point there. Aside from the Al Qaeda agents in Iraq, the other insurgents have no desire for expansion outside Iraq. The power vaccuum has created an possible opportunity for them to seize power, thats what its all about.

Your problem Mark, wether intentional or not, is that you have lost perspective of who your real enemies are. The insurgents are not, the terrorists are.

Axis- Can you cite one historical reference from the American revolution where either side beheaded innocent civilians? Can you cite any evidence where civilians were rounded up, hands tied, and shot in the back of the head? Can you cite any evidence of places of worship being intentionally targeted? NO, you can't. Once a gain, full of sh#%. Your moral equivalency between collateral damage and intentional damage is of course, pathetic. By your standard, the police officer that accidentally kills a bystander in a shootout with a mass murderer at the post office is a cold blooded killer. You are a buffoon.
Zero risk of exporting terrorism? I bet thats what your type said of Afghanistan.
Dismal record of cathing terrorists? How many were killed in Afghanistan and Iraq? How many successful attacks in the U.S. since 9-11 compared to the rest of the world, even with the U.S. being the number one target? Zero

axis,

Like all liberals [progressives] you disagree with anything rational and logical. You and your libbie friends only understand or rather believe the indoctrination from your elitist liberal professors who live in some theoretical world far away from the realities of the real world!

The terrorists want Iraq and it's oil resources for their operations and training center to replace what they lost in Afghanistan. Then they will link with Iran and Syria to form an even stronger terrorist nation and world threat, with even more oil, and free to develop their nuclear weapons and missiles. And... the nutty lefties want to hand it over to them! Sheer insanity, but that's the usual liberal way of thinking, if one can call it thought!

Liberals will end up getting millions killed as they block and hinder efforts to stop terrorists and our enemies!

AAR

Just a short post to try and free up two posts that have been locked in the blue screen limbo-land since this morning.

AAR