Unfortunately, the movie didn't detail remedies to prevent global warming.

Kinda like the Libs who post here.

Viagra-popping, pain-killer addicted blow-hards for Bush.

TEO TEO, insults? Thats all you've got? Should I be baited? Viagra jokes leaves you open to many jokes. No real commentary? Last chance....

What a mature, reasoned and informed response, Mark.

Let me ask you, why not hemp? Do you have anything beyond juvenile mockery to counter his point?

And RS, I believe and have posted before, that recylcing and conservation -- limiting the amount one consumes from gas to energy to water to disposable products -- is one of the simplest and important things people can do to help make our environment sustainable. It's amazing how wasteful we are.

As I've said before - People in the know in the D.C. area use one word to describe Al Gore - asshole. I've heard liberal and conservative Democrat Secret Service call him that. As well as Republican Secret Service. He also enjoys a wide reputation for it among politcos from both parties.

I think that the overweight, beard wearing, hysterical AlGore does it for me. At least he's wearing suits again.

Tom - what kind of car do you drive?

Oh come now, tell the truth. Don't look up the best one on-line.....

What would be the impact on the environment of a few billion people burning this 'wonderful' plant? Much less, how could you ever be able to supply the incredible demands for twinkies and cheetos?

Here is how Democrats REALLY think:
CapeWind

Can you libbies join me in condeming this abuse of power? Did you know that his bill to block Cape Wind has all but stopped ALL new windmills in the country?

Or, is your loyalty to the party isntead of its supposed ideals?

Koyto (& elvis) really are dead.

"The U.S. chose economic growth over reducing emissions - but so have many of the countries who actually signed on to the Kyoto treaty."

http://money.cnn.com/2006/07/28/news/international/pluggedin_murphy.fortune/index.htm

Here is how Democrats REALLY think:
CapeWind

Can you libbies join me in condeming this abuse of power? Did you know that his bill to block Cape Wind has all but stopped ALL new windmills in the country?

Or, is your loyalty to the party instead of its supposed ideals?

Sorry - I was trying to embed a link:

Cape Wind
http://www.clf.org/programs/cases.asp?id=187>

And, I blew it again:

Cape Wind http://www.clf.org/programs/cases.asp?id=187

Kahn,

polling the secret service about political figures...and their party affiliation?

Can you get the poop-scoop on the First Lady, I hear she gets wild after a couple belly-warmers...but that was from a liberal SS agent, so it might be a bit biased.

And by the way, its not an insult to tell the truth about public figures...if he or you got your feelings hurt, then too bad, maybe you can help him out by peeing in his cup for him.

Kahn,

i'll make you a deal, how about we throw out ALL of congress, and have an emergency vote for all Senate and House positions...no money allowed, except for donations of $100 or less, by people in your own state, and annex CSPAN for 90 days allowing for equal time and debate by all candidates.

Oh. Still on the Viagra thing? Glad to see you are ready to help with the discourse.

So, you don't care about peoples sexuality and what they do in the bedroom - unless they are Republican eh? Once again, a liberal demonstartes that the Democrats are the party of sexual hatred.Once again it's not Republican bringing up someones sex life - it's a Democrat. And you don't want any windmills. And you what? Think burning rope is the way to go to solve our energy needs?

Last time I checked - Hemp is a solid. So, are you going to use it to build steam engines? Stupid, hypocritical, loser, democrats.

Yes - we know how much you brown-shirted wackos want to limit free speech. Another thing you are hypocrites on...

Don't forget to take the people guns away also (the was Himmlers ide, I think). And I'll meet you at the Coulter book burning party later, OK?

Kahn:

It is best not to associate with the lowly trolls. They are filthy and lie incessantly.

I drive a Honda.

Hemp grows wild here in Nebraska...and we have clean air. Must be a link.

Dope head liberals are so funny to watch.

How can anyone take AlBore and his global warming scare seriously.
Wait!...cannabis...hallucinations...illogical liberal thought process...there's the link.

Kahn,

Don't forget that it was the Nazis who dragged all of Germany into a war, much like we are seeing today with regards to America and neo-cons. Why do you guys want the same war as OBL et. al? Doesn't it disturb you that your talking points are mirrors of the terrorists?

If the government really wanted to take your guns, they would already have them...don't forget that it is YOUR people who are in charge, BE AFRAID!

Lastly, when you show up from a foreign nation, with prescriptions which aren't in your name, and you happen to be a public figure who admonishes illegal drug users, that is called telling the facts, but thanks for playing.

Hemp can be made into many different products, but the point was that biofuels and ethynol products can be manufactured from it...so no steam engines, but some really clean diesel engines, also it can be substituted for injection molded plastics, removing the need for petroleum in the manufacturing process.

TEO writes, Don't forget that it was the Nazis who dragged all of Germany into a war, much like we are seeing today with regards to America and neo-cons.

Looks like like all 3 of your eyes are closed. Last time I checked we are missing 2 WTC towers and some other buildings in lower Manhattan. Unless I had an incredible nightmare, the war came to us. Much like Pearl Harbor.

Care to try again ole blind one?

TEO says:

Viagra-popping, pain-killer addicted blow-hards for Bush.

Allow me to add:

Cocktail drinking, sushi eating, Hummer driving NIMBY's

"Hemp can be made into many different products,"

TEO your as stupid and dense as a box of rocks. Your grasp of history is pathetic and your ability to interpret it is negligable.

But as much as it pains me, I agree with you about hemp. A good crop with many uses. Hemp, grown for that purpose, has very little THC and is usable in many ways.

Credit where credit is due but no need to respond to me. I will not waste my time with you.

People in the know in the D.C.

That's gotta be quite a crowd!

"what they do in the bedroom - unless they are Republican eh?"

Republicans-bedroom? Classic oxymoron.

Hemp grows wild here in Nebraska

Could you be a little more specific Nebraska M?

I'm sorry, where exactly was Iraq responsible for 9/11? Palestinians? Lebanese?

we are israel's only friend, we are shipping them munitions, and running interference for them, we are just as much a part of this war as they are, and it has nothing to do with us, other than to serve the idea that we can remake the world in our image if we just apply enough force to make them, 'quit this sh*t', that is such a sophmoric view of how people react, and the realities of how international politics works. Just because you have the power to destroy the planet, doesn't make you the sole judge and jury of what violence is and isn't acceptable to be foisted upon innocent civilians.

now we see the salivating of the usual suspects at the concept of engaging Syria and Iran in a round of hot wars, who are pushing these views? not the Pentagon...not the US public...not the Congress...yup, that would be the executive, and his merry band of misfits.

Zoot,

Awww, I think you're getting sweet on me.

If we can get over this silly view that industrial hemp cultivation, somehow equals condoning drug use, then we can begin to start weening ourselves from the petro-nipple...although its going to be a tough battle from the lumber and oil industries...who also seem to be the backers of most anti-canibus/hemp campaigns.

It looks like Schwarzenegger and Blair believe in global warming and have teamed up to show bush the error of his ways. Peace

Of course. The oil industry was behind the great hemp scare back in the early days of the diesel enging. Rockefeller, et al, knew how lucrative the industry would be and wanted his oil to be the power, not some damn weed.

The rest is history.

Hemp should be considered as a replacement crop. Again, your closed narrow point of view becomes apparent. It is obvious the kind of "weed" the article mentions is not your average get high kind of hemp. The variation of the hemp could be used for everything from paper, to clothing, shoes, to food stuff. It could rotate in between crops. It takes very little input to yeild bumper crops. It could cut the waste of trees and other environmentally delicate flora.

You so easily dismiss the point of using hemp and display the kind of mind set you posess on this site. Narrow and pinheaded.

Washingtion and Jefferson were hemp farming.

So easily you assiociate a valid point of view with "dope smoking hippies".

Again, I laugh at you.

I have a quesion for the brain children here:

Who do you think smoked more dope, your idol? Or Al?

HISTORY FACTS

*Hemp has been grown for at least the last 12,000 years for fiber (textiles and paper) and food. It has been effectively prohibited in the United States since the 1950s.

*George Washington and Thomas Jefferson both grew hemp. Ben Franklin owned a mill that made hemp paper. Jefferson drafted the Declaration of Independence on hemp paper.

*When US sources of "Manila hemp" (not true hemp) was cut off by the Japanese in WWII, the US Army and US Department of Agriculture promoted the "Hemp for Victory" campaign to grow hemp in the US.

*Because of its importance for sails (the word "canvass" is rooted in "cannabis") and rope for ships, hemp was a required crop in the American colonies.

INDUSTRY FACTS

*Henry Ford experimented with hemp to build car bodies. He wanted to build and fuel cars from farm products.

*BMW is experimenting with hemp materials in automobiles as part of an effort to make cars more recyclable.

*Much of the bird seed sold in the US has hemp seed (it's sterilized before importation), the hulls of which contain about 25% protein.

*Hemp oil once greased machines. Most paints, resins, shellacs, and varnishes used to be made out of linseed (from flax) and hemp oils.

*Rudolph Diesel designed his engine to run on hemp oil.

*Kimberly Clark (on the Fortune 500) has a mill in France which produces hemp paper preferred for bibles because it lasts a very long time and doesn't yellow.

*Construction products such as medium density fiber board, oriented strand board, and even beams, studs and posts could be made out of hemp. Because of hemp's long fibers, the products will be stronger and/or lighter than those made from wood.

*The products that can be made from hemp number over 25,000.

SCIENTIFIC FACTS

*Industrial hemp and marijuana are both classified by taxonomists as Cannabis sativa, a species with hundreds of varieties. C. sativa is a member of the mulberry family. Industrial hemp is bred to maximize fiber, seed and/or oil, while marijuana varieties seek to maximize THC (delta 9 tetrahydrocannabinol, the primary psychoactive ingredient in marijuana).

*While industrial hemp and marijuana may look somewhat alike to an untrained eye, an easily trained eye can easily distinguish the difference.

*Industrial hemp has a THC content of between 0.05 and 1%. Marijuana has a THC content of 3% to 20%. To receive a standard psychoactive dose would require a person to power-smoke 10-12 hemp cigarettes over an extremely short period of time. The large volume and high temperature of vapor, gas and smoke would be almost impossible for a person to withstand.

*If hemp does pollinate any nearby marijuana, genetically, the result will always be lower-THC marijuana, not higher-THC hemp. If hemp is grown outdoors, marijuana will not be grown close by to avoid producing lower-grade marijuana.

*Hemp fibers are longer, stronger, more absorbent and more mildew-resistant than cotton.

*Fabrics made of at least one-half hemp block the sun's UV rays more effectively than other fabrics.

*Many of the varieties of hemp that were grown in North America have been lost. Seed banks weren't maintained. New genetic breeding will be necessary using both foreign and domestic "ditchweed," strains of hemp that went feral after cultivation ended. Various state national guard units often spend their weekends trying to eradicate this hemp, in the mistaken belief they are helping stop drug use.

*A 1938 Popular Mechanics described hemp as a "New Billion Dollar Crop." That's back when a billion was real money.

*Hemp can be made in to a variety of fabrics, including linen quality.

LEGAL FACTS

*The US Drug Enforcement Agency classifies all C. sativa varieties as "marijuana." While it is theoretically possible to get permission from the government to grow hemp, DEA would require that the field be secured by fence, razor wire, dogs, guards, and lights, making it cost-prohibitive.

*The US State Department must certify each year that a foreign nation is cooperating in the war on drugs. The European Union subsidizes its farmers to grow industrial hemp. Those nations are not on this list, because the State Department can tell the difference between hemp and marijuana.

*Hemp was grown commercially (with increasing governmental interference) in the United States until the 1950s. It was doomed by the Marijuana Tax Act of 1937, which placed an extremely high tax on marijuana and made it effectively impossible to grow industrial hemp. While Congress expressly expected the continued production of industrial hemp, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics lumped industrial hemp with marijuana, as it's successor the US Drug Enforcement Administration, does to this day.

*Over 30 industrialized democracies do distinguish hemp from marijuana. International treaties regarding marijuana make an exception for industrial hemp.

*Canada now again allows the growing of hemp.

ECOLOGY FACTS

* Hemp growers can not hide marijuana plants in their fields. Marijuana is grown widely spaced to maximize leaves. Hemp is grown in tightly-spaced rows to maximize stalk and is usually harvested before it goes to seed.

*Hemp can be made into fine quality paper. The long fibers in hemp allow such paper to be recycled several times more than wood-based paper.

*Because of its low lignin content, hemp can be pulped using less chemicals than with wood. Its natural brightness can obviate the need to use chlorine bleach, which means no extremely toxic dioxin being dumped into streams. A kinder and gentler chemistry using hydrogen peroxide rather than chlorine dixoide is possible with hemp fibers.

*Hemp grows well in a variety of climates and soil types. It is naturally resistant to most pests, precluding the need for pesticides. It grows tightly spaced, out-competing any weeds, so herbicides are not necessary. It also leaves a weed-free field for a following crop.

*Hemp can displace cotton which is usually grown with massive amounts of chemicals harmful to people and the environment. 50% of all the world's pesticides are sprayed on cotton.

*Hemp can displace wood fiber and save forests for watershed, wildlife habitat, recreation and oxygen production, carbon sequestration (reduces global warming), and other values.

*Hemp can yield 3-8 dry tons of fiber per acre. This is four times what an average forest can yield.

And RS, I believe and have posted before, that recylcing and conservation -- limiting the amount one consumes from gas to energy to water to disposable products -- is one of the simplest and important things people can do to help make our environment sustainable. It's amazing how wasteful we are.

Shipley, I'm talking about remedies for the catastrophic scenario being painted by Gore. You're just suggesting being better stewards of the environment; something with which I wholeheartedly agree. Doing what you suggest would be like a drop of water in the ocean compared to what the Kyoto Protocol required, and even the experts admitted that Kyoto, if fully implemented, would result in a temperature reduction that was stastically insignificant. Care to try again?

Leave it to a liberals to conclude that hemp (marijuana) is the solution to the world's problems...

But... maybe hemp is the answer... to lower gas prices!

If more people are "bombed" from smoking the hemp (marijuana), they won't be driving their vehicles, grilling, boating, shopping, or doing as many other activities that may produce greenhouse gases. (There will be more gasoline available for the rest of us!)

They won't be working as much either, so they won't be earning as much money to buy all of those consumer products whose production also generates greenhouse gases here and in other countries around the world. (There will be less demand for oil to produce those products and more to produce gasoline!)

With the reduction in demand for consumer products from around the world, the economies of other nations will also decline, and the workers in those nations won't have as much money to buy cars, gas, or consumer products, so their contribution to greenhouse gases will also decline. (People around the world won't have as much money to buy gasoline and there will be more for the rest of us!)

With less people driving, less people working, and less people buying consumer products all around the world, there will be less demand for oil and gas... the price of oil will drop... the price of gas will drop... we can afford more gas... we can drive more...

And... with the decline in the price of oil, Iran won't have as much money to support terrorists!

Bring on that hemp!!!

AAR

Hey everybody! There went drive-by Steve!

raker, um... thanks.

Did George Washington and Thomas Jefferson power their cars with their hemp?

I pray for a day when "box o' rocks" Al gets a chance to debate the much much more cerebral W...

AAR,

Hemp isn't pot, don't confuse the two, the former just gives you a wicked headache, and none of the fun of watching Cspan for hours on end.

Secondly, there would be a sharp incline of purchasing, since people would spend more time watching QVC, and purchasing Esteban guitars and George Foreman grills. Hostess' stock would go through the roof, and Lazy-Boy chairs would be coveted higher than gold.

"Reality is merely a crutch for those who can't handle drugs"

If more people are "bombed" from smoking the hemp (marijuana)

AAR, have you been watching Reefer Madness again? Commercially grown hemp is actually a superior fiber for fabrics and very, very low in THC (the active ingredient that gets you high) So to think we will have a nation of stoners because we grow commercial grade hemp for bio fuels is silly. In fact I'll reread your post the next time I do a doobie and probably LMAO.

Hemp is easy to grow, and you don't have to kill people or take over countries to obtain it. Sounds reasonable to me.

Retired Spook,

Tom makes a good point and you guffaw at it? Recycling is one of many ways to solve the problem. Do you even understand what recycling is? Let me give you an example. Everytime you go to the grocery store let's say you use 8 plastic bags to get your groceries home. The next time you go to the store you take those 8 bags back with you. Let's see,mmm, that means 8 less bags will have to be made. Now multiply that by the 100 million grocery shoppers and we have save,mmmm, 800 million bags that do not have to be made.

Doesn't that sound pretty good to you? Or best of all (and this is a great segues) lets use reusable cloth bags made of hempI

Hemp can be used as biodiesel fuel and cut down on CO2 emissions as well as releasing us from the wedgies that the sheiks and emirs are giving us.

We can walk to the drugstore that is a block away. Or bicycle.

We can buy high quality products that last and don't need to be (manufactured) replaced every six months.

The list is long my friend. There is no one magic bullet.

Ash,

As I have said many, many times before, what we need is a comprehensive plan by our elected officials. We need a 60's era speech from Bush to focus attention on the issues ahead of us. He doesn't have to admit that global warming exists, (the reality based community will accept his side-stepping the issue) but only that a change needs to be made, and that for our country to survive, we need to make changes, in the way we drive, live, and consume...these don't have to be painful changes, but just make it a focal point so that when we see a Suburban cruising down the street with the windows up, and the air cranked, with some soccer-mom, alone in it, the immediate response will be of ridicule and scorn for the wasteful nature of the situation. When we have a feeling that doing something worthwhile for the future generations is the calling of our times, then I think we will find that our collective blood-pressure will drop, waist-lines will shrink, and we can get back to debating real issues, instead of made-up ones *cough* flag-burning *cough*.

Do it for the kids!

Retired Spook,

Tom makes a good point and you guffaw at it?

Posted by Ash

Earlier I said:

You're just suggesting being better stewards of the environment; something with which I wholeheartedly agree. (emphasis added)

Not sure how you get "guffaw" out of that. My wife and I each drive fuel efficient cars, we recycle everything we use that is recyclable, and our home is heated and cooled by a geo-thermal unit. If everyone in this country lived their lives as you suggest, I maintain that it would still have a negligible effect on global temperatures. I'll offer you the same challenge -- care to try again?

RS:

Want to get rid of global warming? It's simple: get rid of liberals. They made it up. Get rid of them and their fairy tales and global warming will be gone along with them. And as a side benefit it will clean up the environment - at least intellectually anyway.

And as a side benefit it will clean up the environment - at least intellectually anyway.

Intellectual pollution -- I like that, heh. As Limbaugh has said on a number of occasions, we should always keep a couple token Liberals around, just to remind us how awful they are. You're right, though -- getting rid of 99% of them would solve a lot of the world's problems.

RS,

Just as a matter of logistics, how do you, Rev, and Rush "shooting pool with a rope" Limbaugh intend to "get rid of" 99% of liberals? Was there a sale on Zyklon-B recently?

With a backdrop of the mountain of evidence that global warming is real and is a threat to life, all you can do is mock Al Gore and continue in childish denial.

I am not really surprised. This is just another assualt on science from Republicans.

Wade

TEO, Ash,

I'm sure you are much more of an expert on marijuana than I am...

In order to reduce those gas prices, though, we need the "high octane hemp" species...

(By the way... I was being facetious.)

Yes, the hemp plant used to produce textiles, rope, canvas, paper, plastics, cosmetics, bio-fuels, paint, oil, protein, veggie burgers, and many other products is relatively low in tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) content -- the principle active component in marijuana. THC is present in all Cannabis plant varieties to some extent. Industrial hemp varieties grown in Canada and the EU are bred to contain less than 0.3% THC in the upper portion of the flowering plant. In comparison, marijuana plants may contain 2-20% THC.

But... if we have huge fields of "industrial" hemp growing all around the country, what do you think will be intermixed with those "good" little hemps?

AAR

RS:

We got rid of many other diseases and other infestations over the decades like the anopheline mosquito. If we can rid mankind of those diseases, liberals should be no problem. Start by draining the swamps.

I heard libs were biodegradable - let's make them prove it. Just ask yourself, with all the dogs running around, where does their dog-crap go? Same place libs go - made mostly of the same stuff.

A few assorted quotes about global warming...

"Most scientists agree that greenhouse gases such as carbon dioxide from fossil fuels have contributed to the warming of the planet in the past few decades, but have questioned whether other factors beyond man's control are also to blame."

"Climate experts at the NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory in La Canada Flintridge and the Scripps Institution of Oceanography caution that no single event or summer - no matter how unusual - can be directly attributed to global warming and the effects of pollution."

"A study by Swiss and German scientists suggests that increasing radiation from the sun is responsible for recent global climate changes ... the Earth is getting hotter because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the past 1,000 years, according to new research."

"Dr Solanki said that the brighter Sun and higher levels of 'greenhouse gases', such as carbon dioxide, both contributed to the change in the Earth's temperature but it was impossible to say which had the greater impact."

"Dr Bill Burrows, a climatologist and a member of the Royal Meteorological Society ... there is enough happening on the solar front to merit further research. Perhaps we are devoting too many resources to correcting human effects on the climate without being sure that we are the major contributor."

"Dr David Viner, the senior research scientist at the University of East Anglia's climatic research unit, said the research showed that the sun did have an effect on global warming."

"Dr Gareth Jones, a climate researcher at the Met Office ... The Sun's radiance may well have an impact on climate change but it needs to be looked at in conjunction with other factors such as greenhouse gases, sulphate aerosols and volcano activity ... Global warming - at least the modern nightmare version - is a myth, he said. I am sure of it and so are a growing number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's politicians and policy-makers are not."

"... [the world's politicians and policy-makers] have an unshakeable faith in what has, unfortunately, become one of the central credos of the environmental movement: humans burn fossil fuels, which release increased levels of carbon dioxide - the principal so-called greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere, causing the atmosphere to heat up. They say this is global warming: I say this is poppycock."

The Earth constantly undergoes natural periods of warming and cooling, to include ice ages of varying length. Maybe we need to look at cooling down the sun... and warming it back up when those ice ages come!

AAR

RS:

I maintain that it would still have a negligible effect on global temperatures.

And I maintain it will have a significant effect. If you would see or read Al Gore's book he shows the relationship between CO2 emissions, ozone and average world temperature. So a large scale reduction in our fossil fuel burning will have a large impact indeed.

BTW I drive a Honda Civic Hybrid which I have mentioned before and have been attacked for sounding elitist. Elitist is the last thing I am. What I drive is simply germaine to the conversation.

AAR,

You can't mix flowering canibus, with industrial hemp, otherwise you lose the tensile strength that comes from the male hemp plants fibrous exterior.

besides, what is the difference between growing Pot in corn fields or hemp fields? Does it make it any less of a law enforcement issue?

Just as a matter of logistics, how do you, Rev, and Rush "shooting pool with a rope" Limbaugh intend to "get rid of" 99% of liberals?

Since you put it in terms of logistics, I have to point out that, logistically speaking, you're doing it for us and don't even know it. It's called attrition. I read recently that the majority of homosexuals (cannot reproduce) are Democrats and the majority of abortions (productus interruptus) are performed on Democrats. Since the majority of Democrats are Liberals........voila - might take a couple generations, but problem solved.

RS,

so from which starting point are you basing your statistics on?

seems that half the country just 2 years ago disagreed with your conservative views, seems even more now are coming around to finding your ideas unpalatable.

Also seems that you are sending all your bravest and brightest off to war, the dead ones aren't going to re-produce.

RS:

It's called attrition. I read recently that the majority of homosexuals (cannot reproduce) are Democrats and the majority of abortions (productus interruptus) are performed on Democrats. Since the majority of Democrats are Liberals........voila - might take a couple generations, but problem solved.

Fortunately for us liberals Spook, when we add into the equation that most right wingers are pro military and tend to enlist in a higher %, the loss you attributed to homosexuality will be offset by wingers being killed in Iraq. Although it may take several generations too.

TEO:
so that when we see a Suburban cruising down the street with the windows up, and the air cranked, with some soccer-mom, alone in it, the immediate response will be of ridicule and scorn for the wasteful nature of the situation.

TEO, have you seen any of the new Hummer ads? The mother waiting in line for her kid to go down a slide has another mother butt in front of her and say, we're next now. So what does the first mother do? Runs out and buys a Hummer, of course! Now we're macho, and no one will bully us.

It's that kind of mentality we are dealing with. And as long as the current administration is so successful spreading fear, I suspect people will still want Hummers.

See what I mean, RS?

Elitist is the last thing I am.

Troll is the first thing you am, be gone, back under your rock, troll.

TEO,

RE: "besides, what is the difference between growing Pot in corn fields or hemp fields? Does it make it any less of a law enforcement issue?"

Compare an "industrial hemp" plant with marijuana and with corn. Do you see any similarities? If you are having a problem, it's the hemp and marijuana plants that look alike!

Now, look at pictures of some of those hemp fields in Canada, Europe, Russia, or other country where huge fields of hemp are grown. Which field do you think can most easily hide marijuana plants intermixed in the field? Hint -- It ain't in the corn patch!

In case you don't have any hemp or marijuana plants handy for comparison, check Google for photos and images.

AAR

NONE of the liberals are willing to take on Teddy Kennedy for stopping ALL new windmills in the country because of his clumsily wriiten bill to stop the Cape Wind project? Are you liberals.... or Democrats? I didn't realize there was a difference, but I guess there is.

I get a kick out of suburbans with Kerry/Edwards stickers.

TEO,

RE: "You can't mix flowering cannabis, with industrial hemp, otherwise you lose the tensile strength that comes from the male hemp plants fibrous exterior."

TEO, A person "hiding" marijuana plants by growing them intermixed with the hemp plants isn't worried about losing the tensile strength of the hemp!!!

AAR

In fact, if memory serves.... John Kerry and his wife own a whole mini-fleet of SUV's. They have properties all over the world, and SUV's at each.

TEO, A person "hiding" marijuana plants by growing them intermixed with the hemp plants isn't worried about losing the tensile strength of the hemp!!!

But he is worried about the hemp plants vastly decreasing the potency of his marijuana--after all, he's just a damn dirty stoner, right? Either way, "hiding" marijuana plants in a hemp crop doesn't work out too well.

They have properties all over the world, and SUV's at each.

SUV's with baggies of "hemp" in their glove compartments, no doubt.

Tom Shipley, you tree-hugger--I finally agree with you on conservation. And I drive a Toyota Corolla that gets 37-40mpg. I must admit, however, that it's the price of gas that influences what I drive...

For goodness sake, can't you guys take one positive thing, like considering the use of industrial hemp to ease the load on the environment, instead of turning it into something negative and using it to attack libs and those who consider global warming an issue? What, really what, would be so bad about using some of our farm land, especially rotating crops using hemp as our forefathers had envisioned. You people are sad. This is something, used postively, that would be a start to ween ourselves from the teet of the oil barrons. Something other than rhetoric, some thing other than empty words W uses in addressing our energy policy.

Why are we worrying about the price of hemp when the world is blowing up around us? Shall I once again list where Islamofascism is attempting to strangle the globe? Europe, Russia, Indonesia, The Philippines, South America, Africa, America, Canada, and the Middle East are all under seige, yet we find ourselve discussing hemp? Who gives a rat's arse about Al Gore? He's a freakin' loon!!!

Thanks, I needed that...

For goodness sake, can't you guys take one positive thing,

raker, the short answer is NO.

Hemp rhymes with marijuana which stands for hippies.
Smelly stinky stoners, gonna graduate to crack cocaine and steal their Lexus.

Now gimme a vodka tonic and go away.

If you guys want to play that way, well...how many fatties do think junior and the boys (you know, Wolfie, Pearl and Co.) have fired up over the years. I would bet my bottom dollar W knows how to roll. J&B "seem" like they know which end of a spliff to toke from. (man, they sure have been laying low lately huh fellas?) Fatass Karl has seen too many bags of Cheetos and hostess twinkies brought on by the munchies. I don't know about Rummy, scotch is his medicine. I would love to drug test all o' them. Let's thin the herd.

This is a pretty conservative blog for so many people, knowing so much about HEMP. But, then in 2004 Ann Coulter claimed to be a DEAD-HEAD, in a documentary, so anything is possible. Which by, the way is the creedo of all leftists: "Anything is possible!" Peace

I think it is a riot how when we have the libs panties in a bunch they start insulting.

ASH be careful how you throw the NIMBY accusation around. Your prince of Cape Cod has kept the wind mills off the coast of Mass. for years.

Global Warming happens every summer here in DC about right now and global cooling starts around the 15th of September. Six weeks to go. Actually it will be about 80 here Saturday, can't wait.

*Chuckles*

This thread is all over the place. I think I'll just make a quick comment that no one will reply to as usual. ;)

Hemp is an interesting plant, and while I don't like the smell of it's products it's quite useful and actually does convert a good amount of CO2. Though I think growing any green plant would be good for the environment, it doens't have to be hemp.

Are you libs serious-let's delve into ol' Teddy's issues. Porter is right on with the NIMBYS they are libs-tree hugging idiots-who are soley to lame for the rolling brown outs while we deal with this "global warming" imagine temps in the 90's in August! What is the world coming too? Dumbasses!

In fact, if memory serves.... John Kerry and his wife own a whole mini-fleet of SUV's.

No, Kahn, I specifically remember, during the 2004 Presidential campaign, Kerry said he didn't own ANY SUV's; that they all belonged to his family.

And I maintain it will have a significant effect. If you would see or read Al Gore's book he shows the relationship between CO2 emissions, ozone and average world temperature.

Maintain all you want, Ash. And I've seen Algore's book at Barnes & Noble. It was on the "50% off close-out" table, marked "fiction". Now go write on the black board 100 times "Algore is not a scientist".

I would love to drug test all o' them. Let's thin the herd.

Funny you should mention that, Raker. Remember well into Clinton's first term when a significant number of White House staffers couldn't get security clearances because they couldn't pass the drug test, or because they had drug convictions discovered during their background checks? Heh, heh. Haven't heard anything like that with this administration, have you? Of course that doesn't stop you from making the accusation.

See what I mean, RS?

Yeah Rev., and I have a theory I want to run by you. You know a lot about electronics and such. I'm wondering if the presence of all these trolls (negative vibes and all) is causing a disturbance in the force which is, in turn, causing the Server Errors. That would explain why Matt's tech guys can't seem to solve the problem. Of course, the only way to find out for sure is if the trolls get the @#%&^*! lost.

Are you libs serious-let's delve into ol' Teddy's issues. Porter is right on with the NIMBYS they are libs-tree hugging idiots-who are soley to blame for the rolling brown outs while we deal with this "global warming" imagine temps in the 90's in August! What is the world coming too? Dumbasses!

RS,
I think the term that best describes TEO and Ash is "they've been owned!"

Nuclear power. It's what every major industrial and emerging economy nation has been building for years. EXCEPT the USA.

France is constantly building them. Ditto China, though they are also building new hydro-electric and burn a crapload of coal. India, Pakistan, Iran, Israel, everybody - except us.

You know, those electric cars are going to need to get their juice somewhere.....

I'm wondering if the presence of all these trolls (negative vibes and all) is causing a disturbance in the force which is, in turn, causing the Server Errors.

I think the server errors are caused by a simple fact of computing technology. Computer systems run on software and the software works on the concept of logic. When the unsuspecting server is inundated with all these troll droppings totally devoid of any logic, the software starts more and more copies of itself trying to make sense of it. The hosing company restricts the number of processes any web site can run and when it hits this limit, it starts a program called the "process killer." That kills processes pretty much at random, and you get the blue screen if yours was one that got killed. The software, to which I have no access, could be fixed in a split second if I could just tell it to ignore all these troll piles of dung.

Ah, the left: No Sense of Humor.

*shakes head*

Global Warming happens every summer here in DC about right now and global cooling starts around the 15th of September. Six weeks to go. Actually it will be about 80 here Saturday, can't wait.

You just can't fix stupid.

Ah, the left: No Sense of Humor.

Ah Mark, a coupla tokes and I can giggle with the best of 'em.

You ever smoke Mark? I mean inhale and hold it? Recieve a shotgun blast?

RS:

I'm wondering if the presence of all these trolls (negative vibes and all) is causing a disturbance in the force which is, in turn, causing the Server Errors.

I think it is more likely that the Rev has sneezed and that has infected the system. (He suffers from an Agent Orange related hysteria)

Nuclear power. It's what every major industrial and emerging economy nation has been building for years. EXCEPT the USA.

You're right about that. When I went to nuclear power school in the Navy in 1966, the power companies were predicting that the power grid would be 100 percent nuclear by 1990. Then came the tree huggers. They blocked every attempt to build nuclear plants until the power companies gave up on the idea completely - even switching some power generation facilities from nuclear to coal because of years of being tied up in the courts and losing hundreds of millions. The liberals point to Three Mile Island to "prove" how dangerous nuclear power is but I say, "More people died at Chappaquiddick than Three Mile Island."

You know, those electric cars are going to need to get their juice somewhere.....

Electric cars will never be anything but an oddity in the automobile industry.

*** bursts out laughing remembering...

...I think it is a riot how when we have the libs panties in a bunch they start insulting.

:-D BWAAAAAHAHAHA, BWAHAAAAAAAAAAhahahahahah HEEE! OH MERCY!

Really Good one mark!!:-D

I think maybe TEO and big AL should team up, for the elections!!

Al Gores presidential theme being, MERRY-WANNA INTERNATIONAL!!

TEO being vice president, and his theme being OH HOW THE POPPIES GROW!!BWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!:-D

I can see it now!, the both of them being sworn in.

opening ceremony saying, DUDES!! HOWS CROP GOING.
Both of them grinning like possums!!

:-D

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHA! ABSOLUTELY HILARIOUS!!

HEY!, LOOK OUT TEO, They might being singing for you when you get elected!

WATHA GONNA DO WHEN EH COME FER YOU!!
:-D HAAAAAHAHAHAHAhahaha!

Jeremiah

Fortunately for us liberals Spook, when we add into the equation that most right wingers are pro military and tend to enlist in a higher %, the loss you attributed to homosexuality will be offset by wingers being killed in Iraq. Although it may take several generations too. (emphasis - mine)

Talk about pissin' into the wind. Lets see, 2,500 casualties in Iraq in 3-1/2 years - average of 714/year. Best estimates of the American homosexual population 2-4% (although I've seen estimates as high as 10%). I'll give you the benefit of a doubt and say 2% of 300 million which would be 6 million or 3 million pairs of non-producing homosexuals, the vast majority of which are Liberal Democrats. For the sake of argument, lets say a generation is 20 years, and heterosexual pairs produce approximately 2 offspring each during each generation. Therefore, 3 million pairs of homosexuals will NOT produce 6 million babies each generation, while, assuming again, that we stay in Iraq for a whole generation and suffer 714 casualties/year (714 X 20 = 14,280). Further assume that most of the casualties will be men, and that each one either was married or would have married and produced 2 offspring if they hadn't been killed, so 14,280 X 2 (+ the original 14,280) = 42,840. 6 million vs. 42,840 - now I'm not very good at math, but that doesn't seem like much of an offset to me, and you haven't even addressed the net loss of future Democrats as a result of abortion. BTW, I'm assuming that the percentage of homosexuals that are Republicans is probably about the same as the number of soldiers who are Democrats, so that aspect of the equation is probably a wash.

Look at the 2004 Red/Blue Electoral Map. Scroll down to the one that shows electoral results by county. You cannot possibly be optimistic about the future of the Democrat Party.

I get a kick out of suburbans with Kerry/Edwards stickers.

Me too, Kahn; in fact, I kick Suburbans if they have Kerry/Edwards stickers

Since I am in favor of legalized pot I'd like to ask all the folks worried about mass hemp growing a question.

Name ONE prohibition in written history that has ever been sucessful and didnt make things worse (organized crime/alcohol for example)? If you cant then you are admitting to willingly following
a hopeless course of action.

Why people think that doing something that hasnt ever worked before will work on the drug problem is a mystery to me. De-Criminalize and turn it into a social problem keeping very stiff criminal penalties in cases involving minors. This will remove some of the money from the criminal element and quit making criminals out of people when it serves no purpose.

Steve says

"This is a pretty conservative blog for so many people, knowing so much about HEMP."

Steve I've smoked the finest thai courtesy of the uncle sam express and at one time grown the finest indica, for my own use, that you'll ever see. I'm also agnostic. Why do you have a such a hard time understanding that the ridiculous stereotype you want to believe about conservatives is WRONG. I no longer smoke(never did cigs) but realize that criminalizing pot is not the answer and like a lot of conservatives decide based on the issue and my evaluation of it, not the party line.

Those "dope smoking hippies" are the ones going to help elect Gore/Feingold into the White House in 2008 ... and you can be sure I will be joining them in lighting up a doobie of my own in celebration.

Does anyone think that the "Reverend Gored"
(reference is to his ranting like Sharpton, Jackson) was really concerened about the environment when he and the rest of his ilk-Clinton, Michael Moore, Babs Streisand, Kerry and
his gang-with their SUV's, and 'private jets', that spew out garbage into the air, is yet again,
reinventing himself? I DO. I also think back to his days in office, with BJ Willy and the Co-President-Shrillery, and the "global heat" on the East Coast, that was to blame for 700+ deaths(mainly the elderly) and, he and the Clintons let that happen, without doing a thing to help those
in dire need. So now, he's back on his soap-box,
keeping himself before the public eyes-just like the Clintons, that just don't seem to "Go Away"
graciously as other Presidents 'out of office do'.

In other words, HE or SHE, who did nothing to help 'clean up the messes' don't need to find yet
another cause in which to vent today.
a thing to rescue those people

"Those "dope smoking hippies" are the ones going to help elect Gore/Feingold into the White House in 2008"

If you really believe that, put down the pipe because you have had enough.

"Those "dope smoking hippies" are the ones going to help elect Gore/Feingold into the White House in 2008"

If you really believe that, put down the pipe because you have had enough.

Name ONE prohibition in written history that has ever been sucessful...

There are literally thousands. You just choose not to see them. Would you call the prohibition against murder a failure? Sure murders still happen, but the prohibition prevents many times more. Child molestation? Incest? Robbery? Rape? And on and on. They were prohibited for the good of the society. They were prohibited by laws written by lawmakers who were elected by the citizens to make those laws.

In the case of prohibition, it was determined, again by the voters, that this law was no longer wanted and the amendment was repealed. There are plenty of reasons to make drugs - and marijuana is a drug - illegal. And your logic about criminalization is nearly laughable. Of course if something is made illegal, the criminals will try to get control of it. That is why you have heroin dealers. There's lots of money in selling illegal drugs - they can charge a lot because of the risks they take and the fact that people are addicted and cannot easily decide to quit using them. Ever heard of a pharmacy? They are LOADED with drugs you are not allowed to possess without a prescription. If you are caught with them you will be arrested and charged.

If you truly think that marijuana should be legal - try convincing enough people to vote your way and it will be. So far that hasn't happened so I'd guess you and your fellow travelers are not in the majority. Either start selling, quit ingesting that drug, or don't complain when the man locks you up.

De-Criminalize and turn it into a social problem keeping very stiff criminal penalties in cases involving minors.

Why? Didn't you just say it wasn't harmful? And wouldn't those "stiff penalties" constitute criminalization?

This will remove some of the money from the criminal element and quit making criminals out of people when it serves no purpose.

Most drug dealers make most of their money with hard drugs, not marijuana. Legalizing it wouldn't remove enough money from them to force them to even consider the next model down from their Lexus of choice. And get one thing straight - if you use marijuana and its use is illegal and you know it - YOU are making a criminal out of you - not society and not the cops. That's thinking like a liberal and like a victim. But you chose to break the law - suffer the consequences.

Hope that answers your question(s).

Good evening....New to your blog - may not be as "in the know" on some things but hope I can add to the dialog. I have been out of the political scene for quite some time but was really into it locally and nationally in the 80's and 90's for the conservative side of the table - and I could tell you some great stories!! Glad to step back into the dialog through this forum....While I disagree whole-heartedly with global warming, there is a part of me that wonders why folks, including friends of mine, really believe in it. Can one of you "less conservative folks" (and I know I will get to know you!) on this blog explain to me why on earth (no pun intended!) you think there is global warming? We are promised that one day the earth with melt with fervent heat - but that will be God's doing and we will have absolutely no control over it...This Global Warming "idea" really doesn't seem to have anything to stand on -And what's so bad if it is warming up? This isn't a "set up" question either, promise!:)

Good evening....New to your blog

Liar. Get lost.

Excuse me, Sir. I'm assuming you are a "sir"... I am not a liar and my first post was last night regarding the "threat" of a Christian Theocracy.....If you don't believe me, search the entire internet! :)

Excuse me, Sir. I'm assuming you are a "sir"

Rose, we're still wondering.

"There are literally thousands."

I didnt ask for thousands just ONE and you couldnt do it.

"You just choose not to see them. Would you call the prohibition against murder a failure? Sure murders still happen, but the prohibition prevents many times more. Child molestation? Incest? Robbery? Rape?"

The fact that you draw a moral equivalence between your examples and pot smoking suggests that you lack perspective.

"They were prohibited for the good of the society. They were prohibited by laws written by lawmakers who were elected by the citizens to make those laws."

Do you really believe that the laws you cite came from "lawmakers". These laws are not prohibitions and shouldnt be trivialized as such. The laws, in one form or another, go as farback as written history and the nature of them as social constructs for peaceful living are common sense and faith based. For you to compare the most henious crimes for a society with the legality of pot is puerile and undermines your position.

God help me from good intentions of well meaning lawyer people.

"In the case of prohibition, it was determined, again by the voters, that this law was no longer wanted and the amendment was repealed."

Yes I heard prohibition was repealed, I hope thats not a problem for you.

"There are plenty of reasons to make drugs - and marijuana is a drug - illegal."

You make this statement yet cite no reasons, you had plenty...yes I know Marijuana is a drug and is illegal as Alcohol is a drug and now legal. If this is OK why the morally outraged tone in your reply?

"And your logic about criminalization is nearly laughable. Of course if something is made illegal, the criminals will try to get control of it. That is why you have heroin dealers. There's lots of money in selling illegal drugs."

Wow what a great arguement to keep pot illegal you almost convinced me with that one. Glad you got a laugh...so did I. I never advocated legalizing Heroin so whats your point.

"they can charge a lot because of the risks they take and the fact that people are addicted and cannot easily decide to quit using them."

Since YOU mention heroin how about spending the money now spent on criminalizing, adjudicating and confining people. Instead spend it on treatment and if you dont want to quit then dont rob, dont steal, dont support crime go down to the licensed store and get it cheap. People that want to get help and are able to quit can be productive. The people who dont were probably going down that road one way or the other anyway and criminal or not wasnt going to change their minds. They wont last long and from a purely cost/benefit angle thats ok because at least their not creating a huge well-funded criminal system. Dont create a criminal problem just because you lack the courage to admit that some people just cant be helped...deal with it. Nobody said life was fair.

"Ever heard of a pharmacy?"

Now thats jus