sometimes, mark, pics speak 4 themselves.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,,19955774-5007220,00.html

The Hezbo's packed the building with women and children after the initial Israeli attack and then blew it up to stage the bodies for the lib press.

Muslims better wake up and realize they are nothing but expendable pawns for the Imanazi's of Iran.

Same old story, new names:

"This story hurts our effort to make our own people belive that our proxy-nation, Israel, is being careful not to blow up a bunch of women and children...so we will just deny it happened"

Nebraska,

Sorry to burst your conspiracy theory, but Israel already apoligized, and accepted responsibility for their actions with regards to the building.

TEO: There are number of unanswered questions about this incident. It needs to be properly investigated. Israel may have apologized to soon. This is par for the course for them. They like the Americans are afraid of their own shadow when it comes to public opinion. The enemy sees this and they ruthlessly exploit it.

Israel is a soverign country. They are not a prozy of the US. As such, the US should stay out of their way and not attempt force a cease fire on them.

"at different angles in order to ensure that the photos taken have the strongest shock value.

Pray tell Mark, at what angle would looking at children killed by bombs not shock?

as of right now, we don't know what happened at Qana other than the fact that 56 or more people were killed in a crushed building in that town.

So does this mean there should be no reporting on it?

For Hizbollah, Qana was tailor made - and that, in and of itself, makes the incident highly suspect.

This sounds vaguely familiar...mmmm...oh yeah 9-11 sure benefited the neocons who were looking for a reason to invade Iraq....naw, just kidding. I really trust Dick Cheney.

There is a conspiracy, but not by Hezbollah, but by the Zionist elders to escalate the war by drawing Syria, Iran and US into WWIII.

"Forgive them Lord for they know not what they do." "Blessed are the children...." Do you know what you are doing? Peace

Actually, Nebraska Militia is right, Third Eye Open.

Although it is true that Israel said they were sorry that so many innocents were killed they never said that they definitely struck the building with a missile or a bomb...Israel was, as we all are, sorry that the innocent have been (1) placed in harms way (by whom? Hezbollah!), and (2) suffered and died.

Hezbollah has been up to no good for a long time. Let's not forget about all the Israelis that have been blown up in busses and in cafes by suicide bomber as well as missile and sniper attacks!? So I say, let Israel defend herself! Hezbollah started this war, now it is time for it to be completely destroyed or SURRENDER!!

The fact that Israel also stated that it had last fired at the "vicinity" of the Qana building some six (6) hours earlier is what makes me wonder...why were 56+ people still in the building for some six hours just waiting for it to collapse or explode? Logic and common sense should tell you why. The Hezbollah packed the building full of women and children and exploded it? Most of us cannot conceive of such an act, because it is too horrible to imagine, but this doesn't mean that Hezbollah couldn't or wouldn't do it. And given their long track record of heinous acts, this is right up their alley. If there was any truth to the claim that Israel did this, Hesbollah would invite the leading CSI team from the USA, UK or France. But as has been said, this will never happen. The conclusion is clear; Hezbollah orchestrated it rather than fighting on mano-a-mano against Israel! Real men protect the defenceless, we don't use them as human shields or media biscuits.

Russell

Ash...

SHHHHHH! don't you know that conspiracy theories are only viable when they are told to support conservative world-views...everything else is propaganda. LOL

Ash, did you catch the time differences on the various photos? It is not just the staging, but the inconsistant times on the photos that make them suspect. The photos only show one main rescue worker, somehow I am sure there were more, and would really like to see other sequences, I wonder how many other questionable series there are? How many other photos is the same "rescue worker" in?

I wasn't questioning the time sequence or even validity of who did what.

I merely asked if it is possible for children bombed to death to not look shocking. Unless you are suggesting these kids are not dead and are just "acting"

"I wasn't questioning the time sequence or even validity of who did what." Ash

Well there ya go. The problem with the liberal thought process in a nutshell.

Why Ash? Why weren't you questioning who did what? Of course dead children look bad. (Duh)But since THESE photos were posed, what else may have been posed? I wonder if they made sure to NOT let the reporters see the dead fighters and katusha rocket launchers. Don't YOU want to know who is reponsible? I do.

Why Ash? Why weren't you questioning who did what?

A) I was responding directly to Marks assertion that the poor, dead children were posed to increase shock value. My comment was- how can you not be shocked no matter how dead children are shown.

2) I am waiting for more evidence to come in before I make any comments about staging based on sequence of events. It is not "liberal thought process". It is a fair thought process. Which means the right-o-nuts just want to jump to conclusions.

Any more questions?

The images are devastating. What is outlined in all of this is pathetic. These poor children are being used by the press only aiding in Hezbollah sympathy. Hezbollah sees the parading of these bodies as a victory. They have no empathy only hatred. Hezbollah are the murders of these women and children. If Hezbollah were made of men instead of cowards none of this would of occured.

Poor libs, your terrorist loving bubble is burst again.

From YNetNews.com:

"Anti-Syrian elements in Lebanon openly point finger at Hizbullah as guilty of killing of dozens of civilians in order to curtail plans for disarming group. 'Hizbullah has placed rocket launcher on building's roof and brought invalid children inside in bid to provoke Israeli response,'

"We have it from a credible source that Hizbullah, alarmed by Siniora's plan, has concocted an incident that would help thwart the negotiations.
Knowing full well that Israel will not hesitate to bombard civilian targets, Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof in Qana and brought disabled children inside, in a bid to provoke a response by the Israeli Air Force. In this way, they were planning to take advantage of the death of innocents and curtail the negotiation initiative,"

Geez, these sicko muslims strap bombs on little kids and send them into Israel to blow up pizza parlors and you think they wouldn't stoop to outright blowing the little muslim buggers up to create a little lib media production.

Get Real!

“Hizbullah gunmen placed a rocket launcher on the roof…”

How come the Israeli footage shows the rocket launcher mounted on a truck and down the road from the building?

On top or next to, what exactly is your effing point? The affect is the same. Can you not even blame Hezbolla for these tactics? If not, then you are not to be considered serious on this blog any longer.

Barney, did you read the part where this is information supplied by a source in Lebanon? What makes you think that there could not have been a rocket launcher on the building as well as on a truck down the road? Maybe the MSM has only shown the part of the footage that supports its bias?

KJS,

Why would the "MSM" cover for hezbollah? What do they have to gain? Who wouldn't be looking for the scoop of the year to show indisputable proof of this?

You're buying into this conspiracy theory, when Israel has already said they are responsible for the bombing...are you saying you know better than the IDF, who fired the munitions?

How come the Israeli footage...

Why would the "MSM" cover for hezbollah?

The new form of trolling: Absolutely, without a doubt, the stupidest "questions" on the planet mouthed by the lowliest of trolls pretending to care what the answers might be. Big waste of time even trying to communicate with these under-rock dwellers. They will only make you crazy with frustration and disbelief that anyone could be that stupid.

Rev,

The question is only stupid to someone who has already come to the conclusion that the media has it out for them, and the purveyors of their ideology.

What a paranoid little world you live it...how sad

TEO: Hezbollah allows very limited access to their territory. It is unlike the US or Israel where there is a free press. It would be rather difficult to investigate this even if the media felt inclined to do so.

What Rev is expressing is not paranoia but what seem to be reality. The media is typically slanted against a conservative point of view, however, there are alternatives so the so called msm does not have a monoply. Also the media's refusal to hold the terrorists to any standards of deceny is frustrating, as well.

I see all the moonbats are here again.

FUNNY.......

NO pictures of DEAD ISREALIES from the Thousands of rockets hurled into their cities by hizbala.

NO mention that the islamanic maniacs regularly KILL HUNDREDS of muslems, with car bombs, IED's
and bombs tied to their OWN CHILDRENS backs to blow up bus loads, or restaurants full of INNOCENT CIVILIANS.

AMAZING, simply AMAZING the hiprocacy of the marxist anti jewish left.

I guess since they apologized they will pay for the building and the people during reparations?

BP,

There are plenty of foreign journalists going wherever they please, can you quote me some instances of journalists being harassed in Lebanon?

So which media isn't slanted? The ones which parrot the views we see here?

What are we to extrapolate from the situation?
1. Dead children
2. Blown up building
3. Locals claim it was Israeli bombs
4. Israel admits it was their bombs

what else is there to say about the situation...Israel says they hit the building, are they lying?

I agree, the media should be holding people to moral decency...maybe they should have started before the Iraq war, that would have been a great place to begin.

What are we to extrapolate from the situation?

Deny, deny, deny.

The question is...

I never talk to trolls. They smell.

TEO, you are wasting your time. It is not good enough that Hezbollah deploys a hit and run attack strategy in civilian areas, that will inevitably will lead to civilian deaths that Hezbollah will use for political gain, but it has to be a conspiracy between the liberals and MSM.

All the reports that I have seen in the MSM, or attributed to those so called liberals have agreed that Hezbollah are the bad guys here. Israel was justified to retaliate, and that Qana was a tragic accident. Who are you righties arguing with?

TEO: The media that are slanted to the "left" are those such as cnbc, msnbc, the nightly news shows, and most daily news papers. These are the ones that Those that are slanted to the "right" would be things like this site and perhaps a few others. Fox News is the most objective news source. This is why the "left" hates it.

Fox News journalists have reported that they are escorted by Hezbollah reps wherever they go. Others have said the same thing. Also, we know that prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom that CNN toned down some of their coverage of the baathist regime in order to gain access.

To the best of my knowledge, the eight hour time delay between the time the building was supposedly hit and it went down has not been explained. In any event, it is unconsionable on the part of the terrorists to have children near a missle launch site. The investigations need to be completed. This is what the media needs to focus on. Given that Israel faces an existential threat from Iran and its proxies, such as Hezbollah, I consider Israel's response to be quite restrained.

I do not think Israel "lied". I think what they expressed sorrow over was the dead children. Everyone is sorry about that, except Hezbollah and the terrorists who get a propaganda boost from it. They launch missles from sites that are near civilians and cry when they get hit. The fault for this belongs with Hezbollah and their Iranian backers.

I adress this earlier in the thread. Israel and America are afraid of their own shadow when it comes to public relations. Their enemies ruthlessly exploit this and use this against them.

We can agree that the media needs to hold people to more decency. They should have started before the war. They should have focused more on the nature of Iraq's former government. they also should focus more on the nature of Islamic Extremism. The American people are largely shielded from these things. The media can begin now by exposing the brutality of Hezbollah and condemning the terrorists in Iraq at every opportunity.

Barney

The American media is not as bad as some of the international media. We have a free press in this country. This helps to hold both sides to account. I'm glad the msm is starting to get it. The msm often times will assume that the Israelis or the Americans are guilty of war crimes before an investigation is completed but they often times must back track later. Thank God for a free media!!

"Fox News journalists have reported that they are escorted by Hezbollah reps wherever they go. Others have said the same thing. Also, we know that prior to Operation Iraqi Freedom that CNN toned down some of their coverage of the baathist regime in order to gain access."- B.Poster

Yep. Hezbollah minders escort Western reporters wherever they go just like Saddam Hussein's minders escorted Western journalists in Iraq prior to the 2003 Iraq War.

BPoster: You've made some excellent points. I don't believe there will ever be a full investigation. Even if it were proven Hezbollah staged it for their own purposes, the Arab world would deny it.

Rev: You crack me up!! :-)

Third Eye Blind - sorry I doubt any are open.

Why would the MSM cover only part of the story, because to cover it all would be to admit that Hezbollah is using women and children as human shields. That would show what kinds of monsters they really are. Do you remember why the fighting even began? And who started it? Eight dead Isreali soldiers and two kidnapped

Fox News is the most objective news source.

BZZT! Thank you for playing, but no. Oh, unless by "objective" you mean "objectively wrong," which Fox News--and by extension, its most loyal viewers--is at a greater frequency than others (see: PIPA Report) but I don't think you did. I think you actually mean "objective," which Fox News most assuredly is not. It says what you'd like to hear, and therefore you like it the best, but it is not "the most objective news source." Study after study has demonstrated this, but I imagine most Fox News fanatics dismiss any and all such studies as "liberally biased" because, well, they say things you don't want to hear.

To the Jew-haters like Ash and Third eye only Muslim deaths are outrageous. The fact that the building was used to fire rockets into Israeli civilian populations is of no concern to them, except that perhaps they are disappointed the launchers were put out of commission.

Hezbollah is responsible for every civilian death on both sides in this war. These "brave warriors" hide behind women's burkas in hopes that the IDF will be too civilized to shoot back.

To Jew-haters like Ash and Third-Eye the only "truth" is that Israel (and by extension the US) is to be blamed for all Muslem deaths. The fact that Hezbollah mounts attacks on civilian targets in Israel from civilian centers in Lebanon is of no interest to them: their only regret is the loss of launchers that could have been used to kill more Jews.

Either Israel never loses any equipment or men or their cesors are not putting out required information. Censor battle plans, but the public has a right to know how the war is going. After all "we the people" are paying the price in blood and money. Without information there is no oversight and accountability. Israel has a long way to go to be considered democratic. Peace

I never talk to trolls. They smell.

Rev, this is a smart strategery, one I will adopt as of now. Nebraska, Spook, "Khan," kimberly, gozer, megapotamus, et.al., I suggest you do the same. Most of the trolls who pollute this blog do it for one reason--to disrupt intelligent debate, and to piss others off.

Let "Freedom," "AAR," "Almiranta," and "Warrior" debate them, and let's keep the normal discussion to ourselves.

If I were a moderator here, the useless trolls would be gone...

If I were a moderator here, the useless trolls would be gone...

If only...

Thanks for fixing the site--I hope I didn't just jinx it...

I still have yet to get a good response from anyone on my question about all of this. I've gotten a half-arsed answer from Ash and I know he can do better so I will pose it again, maybe TEO and Barney will join in this time.

Why was there anyone in that building? I don't know about you, but if I saw guys launch rockets or set-up a rocket launcher on or near my building I'd get the frack out of there! Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you tell everyone else to get out as well? I mean just get up and WALK (no Hurricane to stop you or need to drive 10 miles) away from the area!

If the building didn't come down for 8 hours after the blast what were people doing in a damaged building, let alone "mostly women and children?" Do you allow children, even not your own, to go running around in damaged structures? Heck a motel burned down in my neighborhood a few nights ago and I've seen several folks keep kids out of that rubble, and most that building is still intact as well. Why not there? Do people not care?

Honestly, this isn't a conspiracy deal I just want to know. What possible reason could you have for so many people to be in that building? Let alone again, "mostly women and children." Are all the buildings in the area stuffed with women and children hmm?

Gozer, Those are some good questions, and here are my thoughts.

The area of Qana, was under bombardment since the beginning of the offensive. According to the locals, the building had a bomb shelter. The locals that were not able to leave the area were living in the bomb shelter. Why didn’t they leave earlier? My guess is that most of these people were old, poor or otherwise incapable of leaving. This was a poor area. The ones with cars and money left two weeks ago. Remember that the IDF was actively bombing the area. The roads had been destroyed, so if you did walk, you might have to travel 30-miles or more.

Think about walking 30-miles with your 80-year old mother-in-law, and five kids with bombs falling all around you.

Thank you for a thoughtful response Barney. I haven't heard anything about a bomb shelter before, nor have I seen any old people. (All I've seen are kids)

Though it still doesn't answer the 8 hour question. Bomb shelter or no if your building got hit why stay in it instead of moving to another building?

According to residents the timeline was:
•IAF bombed the building which is located in the Hariva neighborhood of Qana around 1:00 A.M. [10]
•Following initial strike, some of the people in the building exited in an attempt to survey the damage.
•Within ten minutes, a second IAF airstrike hit the building, causing the walls to collapse on the residents who did not vacate, killing them in the process.

Timeline according to the IDF
•A high-ranking IAF officer said that the IDF had targeted the village since July 28, when it struck 10 targets there, and that the building hit July 30 was chosen as a target after Israeli intelligence indicated that Hezbollah militants along with Katyusha rockets and launchers were hidden inside. "We warned the residents that we would be attacking there," the high-ranking officer said. "We work under the belief that the villages are empty and that whoever is there is affiliated with Hezbollah." [14]
•According to the IAF Chief of Staff, Brigadier-General Amir Eshel, missiles struck the building a little after midnight, but the building collapsed seven hours later, close to 7:00 a.m.

I have to agree with Gozer, Barney. That was one of your more thoughtful posts. But I've got to ask -- what good is a bomb shelter if the building it's in collapses and kills everyone in the shelter?

Also, I'm not exactly sure where you come up with having to walk 30 miles. I searched about a dozen maps of Lebanon and couldn't locate Qana, but I'm assuming is fairly near the Israel/Lebanon border which is only 20 miles wide from the Mediterranean to Syria.

KJS,

"because to cover it all would be to admit that Hezbollah is using women and children as human shields."

--What do you want to bet that I can find this said, multiple times over the past few weeks, on every major news outlet and newspaper in America...5 bucks?

" Do you remember why the fighting even began? And who started it? Eight dead Isreali soldiers and two kidnapped"

--Actually, try 40 years of occupation and subjugation of the Palestinians...or if you want, 18 years of occupation of South Lebanon...this is only the most recent battle, of a far older war...y'know this

Gozer

I think we will have to wait for the investigation to be completed. Now there seems that there may be some doubt about the fact that the building did not collapse for eight hours. It could be a case of faulty intel that the Israelis relied on. What we seem to know right now is that Hezbollah had used this area to fire rockets from in the past. It also seems this area was used to store rockets. It seems rockets were not fired from that area on the day in question. The building in question seems to have been part of a target list. Given the fact that this place seems to have been used to fire rockets from and it was used to store rockets, this becomes a legitmate target. I use the term "seems" not to waffle or be indecisive but becuase there are alot of things we don't know. Of one thing we can be certain of, the IDF investigation will be VETY thorough. I suggest waiting until the investigation is competed before we jump to any conclusions.

All of this being said, I'm with you on why we only find women and children and why the people did not get out when they were warned to do so. It seens there was a long time before the media was notified. Might this have been done to give the terrorists time to remove the bodies of the men? We don't know. We may never have all of the answers, as it is unlikely Hezbollah will be cooperative with a fair and impartial. I hopea nd pray we can get to the bottom of it.

Israel's job is a bit like trying to fight cancer. Hezbollah is a cancer that infects the body of Lebanon. If not treated this cancer will spread to the body of Israel and threaten its very existence. When cancer is treated by radiation or chemotherapy, it is inevitable that good cells will be killed. This is the same with trying to fight a terrorist group that embeds itself in civilian populations. While it is tragic, it is inevitable that non combatants will be killed. What is certain is for Lebanon to have true liberty Hezbollah will need to be defeated or at the very least neutralized. A crushing defeat to Hezbollah can only help us in Iraq, as they are all connected. I have no doubt that Israel will achieve victory unless they are prematurely forced into a cease fire.

Has anyone looked at the pix of the Green Helmet Hezbo "rescue worker" ?? His pix go back to 1996...btw..
this poor child was posed in different locations, at different times..
Did you also notice that the pacifier that was hanging around his neck was ...........immaculate..altho the baby was covered in dust??????????????????????????????
wake up ,trolls.......

TEO,

And just how did Israel wind up in occupation of the West Bank and Gaza? Additionally, when they occupited the West Bank and Gaza, who controlled those territories?

You are quite blind to reality - consumed by hatred, you just don't want to see the other side of the story.

It is not just the staging, but the inconsistant times on the photos that make them suspect. The photos only show one main rescue worker, somehow I am sure there were more, and would really like to see other sequences, I wonder how many other questionable series there are? How many other photos is the same "rescue worker" in?

The timestamps are not "on the photos". They are not even timestamps from the photos. They're timestamps from when the photo's were posted.

And why the same rescue worker? Because the photographer(s) decided to follow this rescue worker throughout the entire rescue operation? That's not an uncommon practice for photograpers. I guess there even has hundreds more of the same man. What does that prove?

You are quite blind to reality - consumed by hatred, you just don't want to see the other side of the story.

No Mark, it is you who is blind to reality. Consumed by hatred for muslims, you are running with a conspiracy-theory that would need the cooperation of every journalist and photograper covering the current situation in Lebanon, Hezbollah, ánd the Israelian army itself.

It's disgusting.

That was one of your more thoughtful posts.

See, even leftist trolls can run out of drugs once in a while.

What does that prove?

That you're a terrorist apologist? It figures. You are one of those Dhimmi Euros, right?

The gutless UN kept observers in Lebanon for at least 6 years and they watched Hezbolla lob missile into Israel for all that time without doing anything. Then when Israel had enough they struck back and are causing extreme damage to an entity that should be permanently removed - but pansies around the world who condemn Israel for doing what Hezbolla did and still does are as sorry a lot as is Hezbolla. The attack came from LEBANON.

Because the photographer(s) decided to follow this rescue worker throughout the entire rescue operation? That's not an uncommon practice for photograpers.

As a photographer myself Willem , I can totally concur with your assessment. I have used the same approach many times.

After reading the posts here, it is easy to see why this country is so screwed up, how many idiots are there that believe Fox News is objective? Look into the zogby polls on Fox and other news channels, also look into the accuracy of zogby polls.

Nebraska, what the hell is wrong with you? If thats the extent of your intellectual capability, give up. That is about the most absurd conspiracy I have heard, you make a clear example of how emotions over-ride logic. When you stop fuming... never mind, just kick something and, with your teeth clenched, post another stupid emotional remark, in fact attack me for not sharing your idiotic views. Moron!

Mark, the Zionist occupy all of Palestine. Gaza and West Bank are just the areas they have allowed for the Palestinian refugees. Yes, the Palestinians are trying to fight back and regain thier land, and don't recognize Israel as they are not willing to give up on Palestine yet.

Hezbollah was formed and funded by Iran just like Israel was formed and funded by the US. The big difference is Hezbollah didn't claim Lebanon as their own and rename it, nor do they attack the natives. The fact that Hezbollah doesn't have planes to drop their bombs doesn't make them terrorists. Just because Bush LABELS Hezbollah as terrorist doesn't make them terrorists.

I'm not a "Jew Hater" like some of you would like to label me, I just recognize the reality of the situation. People keep saying Israel has the right to defend herself. What about Palestine? Do you people support the views of Bush so blindly that you are willing to dismiss the factual history of Israel's existence? It's not their land!
There needs to be a rational solution to this problem, and bombing other countries until there is no opposition to Israel, is not a morally sound solution.

Here is a thought, maybe the reason the building had no men is because the women and children were the families of Hezbollah.

I find it sad that some of you require substantial proof from creditable source for anything you disagree with, and then still don't believe it, yet some nobody like Nebraska makes an idiotic comment that fits your needs and on the band wagon you all jump. Pathetic, but I bet you could get Fox to publish it.

still have yet to get a good response from anyone on my question about all of this. I've gotten a half-arsed answer from Ash and I know he can do better so I will pose it again, maybe TEO and Barney will join in this time.

Why was there anyone in that building? I don't know about you, but if I saw guys launch rockets or set-up a rocket launcher on or near my building I'd get the frack out of there! Wouldn't you? Wouldn't you tell everyone else to get out as well? I mean just get up and WALK (no Hurricane to stop you or need to drive 10 miles) away from the area!

You have guys with AK-47s at the doors who glare at you if you so much as look outside, is why. Hezbollah WANTS civilian casualties: They're doing everything but chain women and children to the launchers in hopes they are killed. Sometimes they're lured in with the false promise that this building is safe: The Israelis have promised not to bomb it. Sometimes they just round them up and march them over there.

James Harold

Very concise & insightful post.

James

Fox News is the most objective news organization in the world. They present all sides to an issue, giving equal weight to all sides.

Israel belongs to Israel, if for no other reason than they built it from scratch. There claim to the land is actually older than that of the so called Palestinians, but that is largely irrelevant, as the land is Israel's because they built it. This is why the USA belongs to Americans. We built it. The Palestinians have the slickest propaganda machine on the planet. Fortunately the US still has a free press. The fight will end when they recognize Israel's basic rights. Israel wants to live in peace with them. The Palestinians need to focus on building an economy and stop whining.

There are some legitimate questions about the Qana situation. This needs to be properly investigated. Nebraska is raising legitmate questions.

Btw, Hezbollah virtually owns Lebanon. This was true even before the current outbreak in fighting. This is so whether they name the country or not.

james,

And I guess you think CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and the rest are objective?

Actually, I think Fox News it too objective! If I want to hear more of the liberal version of the news, I can switch to one of the other networks or read the NYT.

And what is your problem with Nebraska's theory of what happened? It's far more believable than the conspiracy theories the liberal left dreams up like the World Trade Center was blown up by explosives!

Are you having problems believing that terrorists would deliberately blow up women and children for their own propaganda purposes? Do you believe that Hezbollah is some caring organization which looks out for innocent citizens? I guess someone else put all of those rocket launchers among the civilian population and buildings scattered throughout the towns and villages of Lebanon. Right?

You certainly aren't a Jewish fan! I guess you support Iran's plans to nuke Israel off the face of the Earth? If that ever happens, hopefully we have a Republican president in office who will turn Iran into a sea of glass! Oh, but the great United Nations is going to stop Iran from developing nuclear weapons and nuclear missiles!

RE: "Here is a thought, maybe the reason the building had no men is because the women and children were the families of Hezbollah."

If that's the case, then why was Hezbollah firing rockets from on or near the building knowing full well that Israel was attacking the launching site of all rockets? I sure wouldn't want to fire rockets near a building housing my family knowing that the area was sure to be hit after launching those rockets. Maybe that group didn't get the message that firing a rocket at Israel was not a good idea if one's family was in the immediate vicinity!

And all of those rockets that Hezbollah is and has been randomly firing at Israeli cities... do you think they are trying to avoid Israeli women and children? Do you think they care where those rockets land? In fact, the more they can kill the better they would like it. Israel is fully justified in their efforts to stop Hezbollah, destroy their rockets, and destroy their terrorist network.

And what have those U.N. observers been observing all of those years? They have been observing Hezbollah build up their stock of rockets and watch as they fly overhead toward Israel. If Lebanon, Syria, Iran, and the U.N. won't stop them, then Israel must.

Exactly when did the United States "form" Israel? On November 29, 1947, the United Nations General Assembly voted 33 to 13, with 10 abstentions, in favor of a Partition Plan that created the State of Israel. The British relinquished their mandate over Palestine in 1948. War broke out between the Arabs and Jews soon after. The 1948 Arab-Israeli War, established the state of Israel as an independent state, with the rest of the British Mandate of Palestine split into areas controlled by Egypt and Transjordan.

Yes, the United States supports Israel and will continue to do so unless the liberal left gets their way. Hopefully that won't happen, because if it does, the only option Israel has is to take care of their enemies themselves -- permanently! Let's hope that Israel has enough "high octane" weapons to take care of that little problem!!!

You liberals toss your friends to the winds... Conservatives toss out their enemies!

AAR

Yo, AAR!! Saved me some typing...

Apologist Barmy says:

"How come the Israeli footage shows the rocket launcher mounted on a truck and down the road from the building?"

Note that he says THE rocket launcher. Not A rocket launcher, but THE rocket launcher. Kudos to kjstrouble for picking up on that.

Radical secular Islamists routinely hide behind women's skirts and under babies' cradles. It is what passes for manhood in their culture. They place their armaments in hospitals and mosques, they hold innocent women and children captive so if they are killed in efforts to wipe out enemy strongholds they will have fooder for the complicit Western press to use in their attacks on Bush, and they do so in complete confidence that their tactics will work and that photos of the innocents will be broadcast to shock and horrify. (I can't help but wonder if they would continue this tactic if it were not so successful---that means I think there is blood on the hands of the media and the hanky-wringing Left, in case you missed that.)

And don't forget the dressing in ordinary civvies, so the fellow travelers like Ash can whine and whimper about the "civilian causualties".

You sneered when Bush said it so I am sure you will do the same when I paraphrase him, but....

If you are not against this, you approve of it. There is no middle ground here. You have the moral integrity to both recognize and condemn the cowaredly and brutal acts of these madmen, or you imply that you think they are justified in their means.

When I saw CO raving about a post, I knew it had to be typical left-wing anti-American cant, and I looked it up and, what do you know-----typical left-wing anti-American cant.

As soon as you see the word Zionist, you know what you are in for. And the revisionist pseudo-history lesson was laughable, but for being so pathetic. When a writing syle shows some intelligence but the content totally contradicts that impression, it is really sad.

How old are you guys? Old enough to be reincarnated from the appeasers of the late 30's? You sound so much like the Hitler aplogists who knew, just KNEW, that all we had to do was find a great statesman like Chamberlain to go "talk" to him and "negotiate" and there would be be "peace in our time". Uh-huh. And it took the most despised and reviled man in Europe to kick nazi ass and keep England from being ovverun by the Germans.

Oh, and Ash, just because YOU say YOU do something is hardly a reason to;
1. think you really do it, or
2. think it's the smart way to do it

A photographer, now? Your name is Ash Mitty, perhaps?