I think this is going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better.
Yeah, and if you listen to a-holes such as Joe Biden and Jane Harman, it's all our fault. It's all our fault because we didn't do what Jimmuh and Slicky Blue Dress did--we didn't kiss the terrorist's asses...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at July 16, 2006 08:59 PM
Nasrallah will soon be shaking hands with Yassin, Arafat, Rantisi, and Zarqawi. And he'll be wondering why Paradise is so hot.
Posted by:
Reverend Scaramonga at July 16, 2006 09:10 PM
we didn't kiss the terrorist's asses.
We chose option 2, K-I-C-K terrorist's ases. A far better choice, except for libs who seem to like the feel of ass hair on their lips and the smell of Arab butts.
Posted by:
Reverend Scaramonga at July 16, 2006 09:15 PM
Rev,
I do wonder when these men are killed if, in that last moment they are alive, they understand just how badly duped they have been?
To think that these Hizbollah people are putting themselves in to the meat grinder just so corrupt and worldly mullahs in Iran can cling on to power a little longer...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at July 16, 2006 09:24 PM
I think this is going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better.
Unfortunately I feel that is an understatement!!! I just hope WMD's aren't involved(saddaams maybe?) Yes, I think it'll get much much worse before it gets any better! I don't think they would tell us they have suprises for us unless they did, they a re a proud group!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at July 16, 2006 09:39 PM
*Sighs*
I agree, this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. My only question is, how much worse is it going to get?
Posted by:
Gozer at July 16, 2006 10:19 PM
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
But Bush says "trust me"! "Ther either wit us or agan us!"
Iran and N. Korea just told us to F-off (inspections/missle tests) and Syria is saying "you looking at me?"
Now the cowboy and Condi are shrugging their shoulders, wondering what went wrong, and who will fix it.
You "true believers" are brilliant!
Posted by: Barneyg2000 at July 16, 2006 10:19 PM
Years ago, I was working in Germany. One of my colleagues (who was from Bangladesh) used to give me a hard time because I had to file American taxes as well as German. I remember telling him:
“Well, at least I know that if stuff goes to sh*t here, there’ll be Marines landing a helicopter on the roof trying to get me out of here. And there aren’t any Bangladeshi Marines coming to save your ass.”
It rang true then, and it rings true now. I hope all the tourists and business people get out before it gets worse.
Posted by: Kahn at July 16, 2006 10:33 PM
BG2K - Thanks for your brilliant insight. Because Iraq and Syria are not in the mid-east. Oh wait, they are. Israel backed out of these territories, just like you libbies wanted. Here are the results. You have only invective and nothing constructive to add do you?
What are YOUR suggestions barney? How would you have done it differently? Let the grown ups talk and go back to your X-box. Oh, and take a bath.
Posted by: Kahn at July 16, 2006 10:38 PM
BG2K - Thanks for your brilliant insight. Because Iraq and Syria are not in the mid-east. Oh wait, they are. Israel backed out of these territories, just like you libbies wanted. Here are the results. You have only invective and nothing constructive to add do you?
What are YOUR suggestions barney? How would you have done it differently? Let the grown ups talk and go back to your X-box. Oh, and take a bath.
Posted by: Kahn at July 16, 2006 10:41 PM
Pretty good thread so far, only one moron troll saying nothing as usual. I guess the rest of the children have gone to bed...
Posted by: 1H8L1BS at July 16, 2006 10:41 PM
You "true believers" are brilliant! Posted by: Barneyg2000
You mean you aren't are Marvel Comics fan??? X-Men and Spider-Man are great!
Does anyone think this war will end up with nuclear weapons being fired, or do you think it will stay conventional?
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 16, 2006 10:45 PM
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East.
Get back on your meds immediately, before that big green monster comes out of your closet again and starts sucking what little brain you have left out through your ears.
Posted by:
Reverend Scaramonga at July 16, 2006 11:06 PM
"Pretty good thread so far, only one moron troll saying nothing as usual. I guess the rest of the children have gone to bed..."
And he's one of the regular moron trolls at that!
Posted by: Macker at July 16, 2006 11:17 PM
*Chuckles*
Trolling aside, what is the "solution" from our friend on the other side? Hmm? Anything? You can point fingers all day long but actually coming up with some solutions? How about it?
Posted by:
Gozer at July 16, 2006 11:27 PM
Mark asks: "Who in heck provided 10,000 katyushas to Hizbollah?" I think Iran supplied them. Iran and Syria are the primary supporters of Hizbollah and Hamas. The primary supporter of Iran is Russia. As a result of the instability in the middle east, Russia gets high oil prices. Russia is sitting on vast oil supplies, therefore Russia who sits on the largest arsenal of WMD in the world is awash in petro dollars. In order to achieve a long range solution, we will need to find some way to get Russia to stop supporting the terrorist supporting states.
Posted by: B.Poster at July 16, 2006 11:45 PM
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
Posted by: Barneyg2000 at July 16, 2006 10:19 PM
Once again Barney, you dazzle us with your complete ignorance to diplomacy & (God forbid) actually defending freedom and democracy!
Gozer, I have my suspicions in the nuclear realm! The sad thing is, if they use nukes, George Bush & the U.S. will be to blame! Thank you, Ash, Barney, TEO, Leftorium, etc. etc. We can never do enough, but if we do anything, we are just cowboyin it! Pathetic lefty losers with no hope of power in this world or any world to come! I actually do feel sorry for you(about three seconds out of every day)!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at July 16, 2006 11:57 PM
Freedom1
You ask: "Does anyone think this war will end up with nuclear weapons being fired, or do you think it will stay conventional?" The only way Israel would use nuclear weapons is if the survival of the country were threatened. If they used them it would be as a last gasp effort to stay alive. Also, they might use them if Hizbollah, Hamas, Syria, or Iran use WMD first. A true wild card here are Saddam's missing WMD. As you probably know, some reports indicate they were moved to Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.
Obviously our intellegence was wrong. The WMD wer not "there." At least they were not where we thought they would be. As everyone knows, the conventional wisdom is they did not exist. Given the situation we are currently in, I hope and pray the conventional wisdom on Saddam's WMD stockpiles is correct!!
Posted by: B.Poster at July 17, 2006 12:07 AM
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
But Bush says "trust me"! "Ther either wit us or agan us!"
Iran and N. Korea just told us to F-off (inspections/missle tests) and Syria is saying "you looking at me?"
Now the cowboy and Condi are shrugging their shoulders, wondering what went wrong, and who will fix it.
You "true believers" are brilliant!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can only roll my eyes at this! What an ignorant statement!
Posted by: AFWIFE at July 17, 2006 12:12 AM
"Meanwhile, Hizbollah remains suicidal:"-MN
Heh. That's a bit redundant, huh? These Shiite Muslim terrorists crave death. I wonder if they want the female virgins...or the male virgins? Sick. Sick. Sick.
Qu'ran 52:24: Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.
Qur'an 56.17: Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), Qur'an 56.18: With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains
Qur'an 76:19: “And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls.”
Qur'an 76:19: And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 17, 2006 12:16 AM
Freedom 1,
I believe that nuclear weapons are far more likely to be used if Iran steps in more overtly. Or if any of the captured IDF soldiers end up in Iran or Syria. I don't think Isreal will dismiss the threats Iran is making, simply because they watched both Iran and Iraq willingly sacrifice a generation in a war neither could win.
Posted by: kjstrouble at July 17, 2006 12:21 AM
B.Poster,
You're right about that wild card.
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 17, 2006 12:25 AM
"I believe that nuclear weapons are far more likely to be used if Iran steps in more overtly." Posted by: kjstrouble
Y'know, I guess that is what I'm really pondering. What's the likelihood that Iran and Israel will end up in open warfare (versus the Iranian proxy warfare vis a vis Hezbollah that's raging now)?
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 17, 2006 12:34 AM
I found it! Matt posted the following article at GOPbloggers on June 28, 2006-
Gaza Militants Claim To Have fired WMD into Israel
Via Reuters... A spokesman for gunmen in the Gaza Strip said they had fired a rocket tipped with a chemical warhead at Israel early on Thursday.
The Israeli army had no immediate comment on the claim by the spokesman from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed wing of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement.
The group had recently claimed to possess about 20 biological warheads for the makeshift rockets commonly fired from Gaza at Israeli towns. This was the first time the group had claimed firing such a rocket.
"The al-Aqsa Brigades have fired one rocket with a chemical warhead" at southern Israel, Abu Qusai, a spokesman for the group, said in Gaza.
An Israeli military spokeswoman said the army had not detected that any such rocket was fired, nor was there any report of such a weapon hitting Israel.
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 17, 2006 12:46 AM
B.Poster,
Still, that is a lot of ordnance - 10,000 missiles! You don't just go to the corner store to get those...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at July 17, 2006 12:52 AM
Perhaps WMDs, in the form of chmical weapons, are what Nasrallah is alluding to when he talks of 'surprises'. If so, Israel is likely to retaliate against Syria for sure, and perhaps Iran as well.
Posted by: phnxbmed at July 17, 2006 07:52 AM
Ahkmeds House of Jihad! We've got AK-47's! RPGs! And Katusha Rockets! Come in now and receive a free "I hate America" T-shirt!
Corner of wacko and hateful in damascus.
Posted by: Kahn at July 17, 2006 10:31 AM
"Corner of wacko and hateful in damascus." Posted by: Kahn
lol.
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 17, 2006 05:25 PM
I think this is going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better.
Yeah, and if you listen to a-holes such as Joe Biden and Jane Harman, it's all our fault. It's all our fault because we didn't do what Jimmuh and Slicky Blue Dress did--we didn't kiss the terrorist's asses...
Nasrallah will soon be shaking hands with Yassin, Arafat, Rantisi, and Zarqawi. And he'll be wondering why Paradise is so hot.
we didn't kiss the terrorist's asses.
We chose option 2, K-I-C-K terrorist's ases. A far better choice, except for libs who seem to like the feel of ass hair on their lips and the smell of Arab butts.
Rev,
I do wonder when these men are killed if, in that last moment they are alive, they understand just how badly duped they have been?
To think that these Hizbollah people are putting themselves in to the meat grinder just so corrupt and worldly mullahs in Iran can cling on to power a little longer...
I think this is going to get a lot worse before it starts getting better.
Unfortunately I feel that is an understatement!!! I just hope WMD's aren't involved(saddaams maybe?) Yes, I think it'll get much much worse before it gets any better! I don't think they would tell us they have suprises for us unless they did, they a re a proud group!
*Sighs*
I agree, this is going to get a lot worse before it gets better. My only question is, how much worse is it going to get?
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
But Bush says "trust me"! "Ther either wit us or agan us!"
Iran and N. Korea just told us to F-off (inspections/missle tests) and Syria is saying "you looking at me?"
Now the cowboy and Condi are shrugging their shoulders, wondering what went wrong, and who will fix it.
You "true believers" are brilliant!
Years ago, I was working in Germany. One of my colleagues (who was from Bangladesh) used to give me a hard time because I had to file American taxes as well as German. I remember telling him:
“Well, at least I know that if stuff goes to sh*t here, there’ll be Marines landing a helicopter on the roof trying to get me out of here. And there aren’t any Bangladeshi Marines coming to save your ass.”
It rang true then, and it rings true now. I hope all the tourists and business people get out before it gets worse.
BG2K - Thanks for your brilliant insight. Because Iraq and Syria are not in the mid-east. Oh wait, they are. Israel backed out of these territories, just like you libbies wanted. Here are the results. You have only invective and nothing constructive to add do you?
What are YOUR suggestions barney? How would you have done it differently? Let the grown ups talk and go back to your X-box. Oh, and take a bath.
BG2K - Thanks for your brilliant insight. Because Iraq and Syria are not in the mid-east. Oh wait, they are. Israel backed out of these territories, just like you libbies wanted. Here are the results. You have only invective and nothing constructive to add do you?
What are YOUR suggestions barney? How would you have done it differently? Let the grown ups talk and go back to your X-box. Oh, and take a bath.
Pretty good thread so far, only one moron troll saying nothing as usual. I guess the rest of the children have gone to bed...
You "true believers" are brilliant! Posted by: Barneyg2000
You mean you aren't are Marvel Comics fan??? X-Men and Spider-Man are great!
Does anyone think this war will end up with nuclear weapons being fired, or do you think it will stay conventional?
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East.
Get back on your meds immediately, before that big green monster comes out of your closet again and starts sucking what little brain you have left out through your ears.
"Pretty good thread so far, only one moron troll saying nothing as usual. I guess the rest of the children have gone to bed..."
And he's one of the regular moron trolls at that!
*Chuckles*
Trolling aside, what is the "solution" from our friend on the other side? Hmm? Anything? You can point fingers all day long but actually coming up with some solutions? How about it?
Mark asks: "Who in heck provided 10,000 katyushas to Hizbollah?" I think Iran supplied them. Iran and Syria are the primary supporters of Hizbollah and Hamas. The primary supporter of Iran is Russia. As a result of the instability in the middle east, Russia gets high oil prices. Russia is sitting on vast oil supplies, therefore Russia who sits on the largest arsenal of WMD in the world is awash in petro dollars. In order to achieve a long range solution, we will need to find some way to get Russia to stop supporting the terrorist supporting states.
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
Posted by: Barneyg2000 at July 16, 2006 10:19 PM
Once again Barney, you dazzle us with your complete ignorance to diplomacy & (God forbid) actually defending freedom and democracy!
Gozer, I have my suspicions in the nuclear realm! The sad thing is, if they use nukes, George Bush & the U.S. will be to blame! Thank you, Ash, Barney, TEO, Leftorium, etc. etc. We can never do enough, but if we do anything, we are just cowboyin it! Pathetic lefty losers with no hope of power in this world or any world to come! I actually do feel sorry for you(about three seconds out of every day)!
Freedom1
You ask: "Does anyone think this war will end up with nuclear weapons being fired, or do you think it will stay conventional?" The only way Israel would use nuclear weapons is if the survival of the country were threatened. If they used them it would be as a last gasp effort to stay alive. Also, they might use them if Hizbollah, Hamas, Syria, or Iran use WMD first. A true wild card here are Saddam's missing WMD. As you probably know, some reports indicate they were moved to Lebanon's Bekaa Valley.
Obviously our intellegence was wrong. The WMD wer not "there." At least they were not where we thought they would be. As everyone knows, the conventional wisdom is they did not exist. Given the situation we are currently in, I hope and pray the conventional wisdom on Saddam's WMD stockpiles is correct!!
For five years now Bush has been preoccupied with Iraq and has forgotten about Iran, N. Korea and the Middle East. You know, the kinds of things that really matter.
But Bush says "trust me"! "Ther either wit us or agan us!"
Iran and N. Korea just told us to F-off (inspections/missle tests) and Syria is saying "you looking at me?"
Now the cowboy and Condi are shrugging their shoulders, wondering what went wrong, and who will fix it.
You "true believers" are brilliant!
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I can only roll my eyes at this! What an ignorant statement!
"Meanwhile, Hizbollah remains suicidal:"-MN
Heh. That's a bit redundant, huh? These Shiite Muslim terrorists crave death. I wonder if they want the female virgins...or the male virgins? Sick. Sick. Sick.
Qu'ran 52:24: Round about them will serve, (devoted) to them, young male servants (handsome) as Pearls well-guarded.
Qur'an 56.17: Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness), Qur'an 56.18: With goblets, (shining) beakers, and cups (filled) out of clear-flowing fountains
Qur'an 76:19: “And round them shall serve immortal boys of perpetual freshness, never altering in age. If you saw them, you would think they were scattered pearls.”
Qur'an 76:19: And round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness): If thou seest them, thou wouldst think them scattered Pearls.
Freedom 1,
I believe that nuclear weapons are far more likely to be used if Iran steps in more overtly. Or if any of the captured IDF soldiers end up in Iran or Syria. I don't think Isreal will dismiss the threats Iran is making, simply because they watched both Iran and Iraq willingly sacrifice a generation in a war neither could win.
B.Poster,
You're right about that wild card.
"I believe that nuclear weapons are far more likely to be used if Iran steps in more overtly." Posted by: kjstrouble
Y'know, I guess that is what I'm really pondering. What's the likelihood that Iran and Israel will end up in open warfare (versus the Iranian proxy warfare vis a vis Hezbollah that's raging now)?
I found it! Matt posted the following article at GOPbloggers on June 28, 2006-
Gaza Militants Claim To Have fired WMD into Israel
Via Reuters... A spokesman for gunmen in the Gaza Strip said they had fired a rocket tipped with a chemical warhead at Israel early on Thursday.
The Israeli army had no immediate comment on the claim by the spokesman from the al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, an armed wing of Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas's Fatah movement.
The group had recently claimed to possess about 20 biological warheads for the makeshift rockets commonly fired from Gaza at Israeli towns. This was the first time the group had claimed firing such a rocket.
"The al-Aqsa Brigades have fired one rocket with a chemical warhead" at southern Israel, Abu Qusai, a spokesman for the group, said in Gaza.
An Israeli military spokeswoman said the army had not detected that any such rocket was fired, nor was there any report of such a weapon hitting Israel.
B.Poster,
Still, that is a lot of ordnance - 10,000 missiles! You don't just go to the corner store to get those...
Perhaps WMDs, in the form of chmical weapons, are what Nasrallah is alluding to when he talks of 'surprises'. If so, Israel is likely to retaliate against Syria for sure, and perhaps Iran as well.
Ahkmeds House of Jihad! We've got AK-47's! RPGs! And Katusha Rockets! Come in now and receive a free "I hate America" T-shirt!
Corner of wacko and hateful in damascus.
"Corner of wacko and hateful in damascus." Posted by: Kahn
lol.