Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views.
Posted by: Georgia Frawg at July 11, 2006 06:10 PM
Just reported by Brit Hume...Bob Novak says he got Valerie Plames name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who and had it confirmed by the CIA.
Novak says he was told by Fitzmas not to reveal his source's for the story until after the investigation.
Novak's source was never anyone in the White House.
Fitzmas knew Plame was outed by a publicly available book and continued to waste taxpayer dollars.
What a freaking joke!
Posted by:
Nebraska Militia at July 11, 2006 06:24 PM
Frog march Joe Wilson to jail!!!
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 11, 2006 06:26 PM
Frog march Joe Wilson to jail!!!
Moonbat heads are going to explode!!
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 11, 2006 06:27 PM
It just amazes me that anyone could believe that 9/11 was NOT the result of planes hitting the towers and pentagon.
I (amongst others) watched it all unfold right before my eyes. I watched it unfold LIVE. LIVE!
I suppose they believe that Pres Bush hired David Cooperfield to make it look like all this was happening live. I mean, he is the master of illusion! LOL
Posted by: AFWIFE at July 11, 2006 06:42 PM
Georga, you said, "Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views." I agree and understand that. Unfortunately the vocal far left stick out like a sore thumb, and that's what tends to be remembered. The flip side is true too. I am believeing that you understand that too. I wish that on this blog that the left and the right could debate without getting into name calling etc.
Posted by: Keep to the Right at July 11, 2006 07:26 PM
*Chuckles*
Well the number one response I've heard as to why it wasn't the planes that caused the building to collapse was that "no skyscraper has ever collapsed just because of fire." Which has always gotten me thinking, "How many skyscrapers have ever been hit by a comercial airliner and had the fire caused by full tanks of jet fuel?" Let alone the fact that that on the Twin Towers the load bearing structures were all the outer walls. Wierd how engineering works and fire fighting.
Anyway I digress. There are lots of crazies on both sides extolling their beliefs in the public arena. Many of them area also teachers and spread the same junk in their classrooms. I wish they wouldn't but it happens. I think it's up to the local school districts and boards to make and enforce rules on teacher conduct and politicing. Unfortunetly this isn't done nearly enough. :(
Posted by:
Gozer at July 11, 2006 07:26 PM
Keep to the Right-
Yeah, I've been calling for that for some time now... but I guess that it is just more fun to name-call.
Posted by: Georgia Frawg at July 11, 2006 08:16 PM
Gozer,
The twin towers were originally designed to have the structural steel supports insulated by asbestos, which would have prevented the weakening by heat. During the construction city codes and environmental concerns prevented the use of asbestos insulation, thereby rendering the structures unprotected against heat degredation.
Posted by: phnxbmed at July 11, 2006 08:32 PM
joseph dieferia, is filled with satan!, and I can just see the flames of hatred, boiling up in his words, and he can be SURE!, that his words, will surely return, without hesitancy, consuming him in his ENTIRETY! because hatred, is always repayed with hatred, in the next life that is!!
The Bush family and we as christians though, we will always turn the other cheek!!
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at July 11, 2006 10:35 PM
actually people like alex jones and jack blood are libertarians....so to equate this movement to the far left is erroneous. they are more conservative than you neocons could ever hope to be.
Posted by: ToddGreenway at July 11, 2006 11:17 PM
This moonbat sounds like the psycho up at UW up in Wisconsin. Horowitz is right. Our campuses are overrun by neorads. (As if I needed to tell you!)
Posted by: Bob Arctor at July 12, 2006 01:39 AM
phnx,
Wouldn't surprise me - after all, it was enviro-whacko concerns about asbestos which caused the O--rings on the early shuttles to not use asbestos, with the Challenger disaster being the ultimate result of that.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at July 12, 2006 02:12 AM
Todd, Alex Jones and Jack Blood are crazies, not libertarians. Or maybe libertarian-crazies. They don't believe that terrorists crashed planes into the twin towers and the pentagon. They peddle conspiracy theories like holograms, pods, missiles and remote controlled aircraft.
Now ask yourself this simple question: does that sound libertarian or conservative to you?
Before 9-11 Alex Jones seemed pretty sensible, but like it did for many Americans, 9-11 blew out a bulb in Alex's brain. He needs help, not attention.
Peddle your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
Posted by: Bob Arctor at July 12, 2006 02:59 AM
Mark, while we're on conspiracy theories, let's not forget the ecofreaks and ecofrauds prevented asbestos from being used to protect the twin towers. Using Alex Jones' logic, the econuts demolished the twin towers!
No disrespect to the victims of al Qaeda. But my conspiracy theory is as realistic as the moonbat theories.
God bless the 911 victims. God bless our brave troops.
Posted by: Bob Arctor at July 12, 2006 03:05 AM
Mark Noonan complains about conspiracy theories, then blames the Challenger disaster on "enviro-whackos." He also has absolutely no conception of why that's funny. This is why people treat this place as though it's The Onion
Posted by: SeesThroughIt at July 12, 2006 01:52 PM
Georgia Frawg says:
"Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views."
GF, I believe you. But I also apply the same standard to you that I apply to those who claim that all not all Muslims want to kill people---when a radical claims to represent you, and he doesn't, stand up and say so.
We here, and all across conservatism, have disavowed people on the right who have betrayed our principles. From Jerry Falwell to abortion clinic bombers to Duke Cunningham, we have stood up and said "These people do not speak for us".
I personally think that the neorad element is a very small (though VERY vigourous) element of what was once a great party, and that for some reason the vast majority of the party has allowed them to claim to speak for the whole. I think this is because the policy of generating a blind, white-hot, unexamined hatred of George W. Bush has made even moderate Dems feel caught between two unpleasant and unacceptable extremes. An illusion has been very carefully crafted that to speak out against the neorads would be like taking sides with the Bushies.
It's like a pressure wave of fever-swamp radicalism pressing the main body of the party up against a solid wall of Anti-Bushism---so they stay there, unwilling to move right because of their emotional antipathy to what they think the right represents, yet creeped out by the increasing lunacy on their left.
What I think is going to be interesting is what will happen when that wall of Anti-Bushism collapses, when he is no longer there to provide a counter balance to the radicals. Personally, I think millions of currently silent Democrats are going to find themselves totally turned off by the likes of the truly radical nutters, and once the right offers ANY alternative that is not Bush they will flow to that as the only rational alternative.
Because if you strip away the radical rhetoric, Bush is John F. Kennedy----only he follows through. His economic policy is Kennedyesque. His foreign policy, ditto. His reponse to foreign threats, the same, or nearly so. If you were to overlay the Kennedy platform and political theories over Bush's, they would line up to a great degree. Kennedy was the last great Democrat, before the death spiral toward the far left radicalism that is trying to take over today, and once the personal animosity toward Bush dissapates as he leaves center stage I think the Dems will see that the New Republicans are closer to their beliefs than the New Leninists.
That doesn't exactly thrill the Old Republicans, but that's another story......
Posted by:
Almiranta at July 12, 2006 10:26 PM
I like the theory that the Black Panthers and the "Reverend" Jesseh conspired to kill Martin Luther King--he was too friendly to whites, he was too much into conciliation and forgiveness, and they needed a rallying point to be able to keep the races divided---that was what was the key to success for the Panthers and Jackson.
The unanswered question is, did they have pod people do the deed, or was it a death ray disguised as a rifle shot? Tune in later........
Posted by:
Almiranta at July 12, 2006 10:30 PM
Sees,
I didn't say that - I said that enviro-whacko concerns cause asbestos not to be used in the O-rings, and that is what caused the Challenger to blow up...
What the left says is things like the levees in NO were deliberately blown up by GW in order to kill black people.
Big difference - and if you can't tell the difference, then there's really nothing for us to discuss.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at July 13, 2006 01:02 AM
Alimaranta wisely pointed out:
I like the theory that the Black Panthers and the "Reverend" Jesseh conspired to kill Martin Luther King....
Yeah, that sure makes a lot of sense.
Posted by: Bob Arctor at July 13, 2006 04:55 AM
Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views.
Just reported by Brit Hume...Bob Novak says he got Valerie Plames name from Joe Wilson's entry in Who's Who and had it confirmed by the CIA.
Novak says he was told by Fitzmas not to reveal his source's for the story until after the investigation.
Novak's source was never anyone in the White House.
Fitzmas knew Plame was outed by a publicly available book and continued to waste taxpayer dollars.
What a freaking joke!
Frog march Joe Wilson to jail!!!
Frog march Joe Wilson to jail!!!
Moonbat heads are going to explode!!
It just amazes me that anyone could believe that 9/11 was NOT the result of planes hitting the towers and pentagon.
I (amongst others) watched it all unfold right before my eyes. I watched it unfold LIVE. LIVE!
I suppose they believe that Pres Bush hired David Cooperfield to make it look like all this was happening live. I mean, he is the master of illusion! LOL
Georga, you said, "Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views." I agree and understand that. Unfortunately the vocal far left stick out like a sore thumb, and that's what tends to be remembered. The flip side is true too. I am believeing that you understand that too. I wish that on this blog that the left and the right could debate without getting into name calling etc.
*Chuckles*
Well the number one response I've heard as to why it wasn't the planes that caused the building to collapse was that "no skyscraper has ever collapsed just because of fire." Which has always gotten me thinking, "How many skyscrapers have ever been hit by a comercial airliner and had the fire caused by full tanks of jet fuel?" Let alone the fact that that on the Twin Towers the load bearing structures were all the outer walls. Wierd how engineering works and fire fighting.
Anyway I digress. There are lots of crazies on both sides extolling their beliefs in the public arena. Many of them area also teachers and spread the same junk in their classrooms. I wish they wouldn't but it happens. I think it's up to the local school districts and boards to make and enforce rules on teacher conduct and politicing. Unfortunetly this isn't done nearly enough. :(
Keep to the Right-
Yeah, I've been calling for that for some time now... but I guess that it is just more fun to name-call.
Gozer,
The twin towers were originally designed to have the structural steel supports insulated by asbestos, which would have prevented the weakening by heat. During the construction city codes and environmental concerns prevented the use of asbestos insulation, thereby rendering the structures unprotected against heat degredation.
joseph dieferia, is filled with satan!, and I can just see the flames of hatred, boiling up in his words, and he can be SURE!, that his words, will surely return, without hesitancy, consuming him in his ENTIRETY! because hatred, is always repayed with hatred, in the next life that is!!
The Bush family and we as christians though, we will always turn the other cheek!!
Jeremiah
actually people like alex jones and jack blood are libertarians....so to equate this movement to the far left is erroneous. they are more conservative than you neocons could ever hope to be.
This moonbat sounds like the psycho up at UW up in Wisconsin. Horowitz is right. Our campuses are overrun by neorads. (As if I needed to tell you!)
phnx,
Wouldn't surprise me - after all, it was enviro-whacko concerns about asbestos which caused the O--rings on the early shuttles to not use asbestos, with the Challenger disaster being the ultimate result of that.
Todd, Alex Jones and Jack Blood are crazies, not libertarians. Or maybe libertarian-crazies. They don't believe that terrorists crashed planes into the twin towers and the pentagon. They peddle conspiracy theories like holograms, pods, missiles and remote controlled aircraft.
Now ask yourself this simple question: does that sound libertarian or conservative to you?
Before 9-11 Alex Jones seemed pretty sensible, but like it did for many Americans, 9-11 blew out a bulb in Alex's brain. He needs help, not attention.
Peddle your conspiracy theories elsewhere.
Mark, while we're on conspiracy theories, let's not forget the ecofreaks and ecofrauds prevented asbestos from being used to protect the twin towers. Using Alex Jones' logic, the econuts demolished the twin towers!
No disrespect to the victims of al Qaeda. But my conspiracy theory is as realistic as the moonbat theories.
God bless the 911 victims. God bless our brave troops.
Mark Noonan complains about conspiracy theories, then blames the Challenger disaster on "enviro-whackos." He also has absolutely no conception of why that's funny. This is why people treat this place as though it's The Onion
Georgia Frawg says:
"Remember, the thoughts and actions of the far left do not necessarily reflect all of those with liberal views."
GF, I believe you. But I also apply the same standard to you that I apply to those who claim that all not all Muslims want to kill people---when a radical claims to represent you, and he doesn't, stand up and say so.
We here, and all across conservatism, have disavowed people on the right who have betrayed our principles. From Jerry Falwell to abortion clinic bombers to Duke Cunningham, we have stood up and said "These people do not speak for us".
I personally think that the neorad element is a very small (though VERY vigourous) element of what was once a great party, and that for some reason the vast majority of the party has allowed them to claim to speak for the whole. I think this is because the policy of generating a blind, white-hot, unexamined hatred of George W. Bush has made even moderate Dems feel caught between two unpleasant and unacceptable extremes. An illusion has been very carefully crafted that to speak out against the neorads would be like taking sides with the Bushies.
It's like a pressure wave of fever-swamp radicalism pressing the main body of the party up against a solid wall of Anti-Bushism---so they stay there, unwilling to move right because of their emotional antipathy to what they think the right represents, yet creeped out by the increasing lunacy on their left.
What I think is going to be interesting is what will happen when that wall of Anti-Bushism collapses, when he is no longer there to provide a counter balance to the radicals. Personally, I think millions of currently silent Democrats are going to find themselves totally turned off by the likes of the truly radical nutters, and once the right offers ANY alternative that is not Bush they will flow to that as the only rational alternative.
Because if you strip away the radical rhetoric, Bush is John F. Kennedy----only he follows through. His economic policy is Kennedyesque. His foreign policy, ditto. His reponse to foreign threats, the same, or nearly so. If you were to overlay the Kennedy platform and political theories over Bush's, they would line up to a great degree. Kennedy was the last great Democrat, before the death spiral toward the far left radicalism that is trying to take over today, and once the personal animosity toward Bush dissapates as he leaves center stage I think the Dems will see that the New Republicans are closer to their beliefs than the New Leninists.
That doesn't exactly thrill the Old Republicans, but that's another story......
I like the theory that the Black Panthers and the "Reverend" Jesseh conspired to kill Martin Luther King--he was too friendly to whites, he was too much into conciliation and forgiveness, and they needed a rallying point to be able to keep the races divided---that was what was the key to success for the Panthers and Jackson.
The unanswered question is, did they have pod people do the deed, or was it a death ray disguised as a rifle shot? Tune in later........
Sees,
I didn't say that - I said that enviro-whacko concerns cause asbestos not to be used in the O-rings, and that is what caused the Challenger to blow up...
What the left says is things like the levees in NO were deliberately blown up by GW in order to kill black people.
Big difference - and if you can't tell the difference, then there's really nothing for us to discuss.
Alimaranta wisely pointed out:
Yeah, that sure makes a lot of sense.