I hope he does stay in the race and win. That will prove voter fraud because it is common knowledge nobody with an IQ over 40 would vote for him.
Posted by: Johann Morel at July 9, 2006 07:33 PM
Well, that will certainly serve them right when he wins. Delay is being railroaded from start to finish.
Posted by: Darby at July 9, 2006 07:47 PM
No matter how crooked and corrupt a Republican, this site will defend him to the hilt. And don't say a failure to convict proves anything, not with these jackals, they are as slippery as slimy eels.
Posted by: Canuckguy at July 9, 2006 08:51 PM
Ha! I'd love to see Delay win this race!
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 9, 2006 08:51 PM
Ha! I'd love to see Delay win this race!
Posted by: Freedom1 at July 9, 2006 08:54 PM
Matt,
That would be great if Tom Delay decided to run and won. The prosecutor is shameless and pathetic, kind of like the whole dem party.
Posted by: james allegro at July 9, 2006 09:03 PM
That will prove voter fraud because it is common knowledge nobody with an IQ over 40 would vote for him.
That is exactly what has me worried, Johann. Most republicans fit the under 40 IQ demographic.
Posted by:
Ash at July 9, 2006 09:50 PM
Ash quote--"That is exactly what has me worried, Johann. Most republicans fit the under 40 IQ demographic."
If you are keefer???? then why do you post stuff like this about republicans??
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at July 9, 2006 10:04 PM
Johan Moron--spoof
Ashey--spoof who works at a gay bar
Freedom1--suspected spoof, according to a "friend" at a lefty blog
Canuck Guy--obvious spoof, nobody's that stupid on purpose
Matt, ban the spoofers, please.
Posted by: keefer at July 9, 2006 10:07 PM
Keefer-
You are finally coming unhinged guy.
Plots, plots everywhere!! Here a spoof, there a spoof, everywhere a spoof spoof!! LOL
Don't forget to check under your bed for spoofs tonight. ;->
Posted by: Leftorium at July 9, 2006 10:29 PM
Matt, please don't ban us reprobates. Tweaking Republican noses gives us a purpose in our otherwise empty lives.
Posted by: Canuckguy at July 9, 2006 10:35 PM
keefer?,
Do you think I'm a spoofer?
or is this just some joke by Ash or whoever?
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at July 9, 2006 10:41 PM
Well it's finally happening.
The lunatics are forming a circular firing squad.
Posted by: Leftorium at July 9, 2006 10:44 PM
I must have missed where Tom Delay was conviced of anything?
Can someone on the left please share this with me?
Meanwhile...Marion Berry......
Posted by: Warriornation at July 9, 2006 10:47 PM
WILL THE REAL kEEFER COME FORWARD PLEASE?!!!!!!!
This is no joking matter, because I don't know WHAT? or WHO? or HOW? to believe now?????
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at July 9, 2006 10:53 PM
Speaking as a precinct chair in CD22, I can tell you that it is likely DeLay would win -- because we want to keep the seat Republican.
However, don't expect him to be around in 2008, because he will have real challengers in the primary, not the three jokes like he had this year.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at July 9, 2006 10:57 PM
The RNC won't take the chance that when/if he is convicted on these charges, that another Republicrat gets hauled-off to jail during session, as has been said before, "Perception is everything in politics".
As an aside, how about that whistleblower reporting on more secret infringements on civil rights being held from congress by Der Leader? I can't wait to watch Snow explain these ones to his friends in the press pool.
"In the letter, Hoekstra said the failure to brief the intelligence committees "may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of law and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202689,00.html
Posted by: Third Eye Open at July 9, 2006 11:00 PM
Canuck,
The indictment of DeLay was bogus from start to finish - just a bit of natsy, Democratic skullduggery.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at July 9, 2006 11:00 PM
Mark- You can't seriously believe that. Are you getting paid by Ken Mehlman to write propaganda for the RNC?
Posted by: kritter at July 9, 2006 11:14 PM
Third Eye Open-
Don't you know that Hoekstra, even though he is a rebublican, is just another one of those left wing liberal liars that are just out to hurt our glorius leader for political gain?! I'll tell you it's "Democratic skullduggery" that's what it is. LMAO!!!!!
Posted by: Leftorium at July 9, 2006 11:23 PM
Mark, how many grand juries did it Take Ronnie Earle before he could get an indictment? Wasn't it 4? I would have thought it would be illegal to go to another jury after the first one wouldn't indict. Seems like a form of double jeapordy.
Posted by:
CJ at July 9, 2006 11:25 PM
Ok, all you leftwing kooks. How many of you had heard of this Hoekstra guy before today? Oh yeah, some influential guy eh? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
Posted by:
CJ at July 9, 2006 11:28 PM
Actually, CJ, it was six -- four of them between Friday morning and Monday afternoon, with most of them refusing charges and one headed by a guy who publicly admits he was for indicting Delay as revenge for a friend's loss of his seat following redstricting.
Posted by: Rhymes With Right at July 9, 2006 11:31 PM
Perhaps he should run for president with his good friend Abramoff. Sure is sad when a guy doesn't know whether to sh1t or go blind. Peace
Posted by: steve at July 9, 2006 11:44 PM
i'm the real keefer and i work in a gay toll booth.
Posted by:
Ash at July 10, 2006 12:05 AM
I'd vote for him. Then if he resigned after winning - the REPUBLICAN governor could name his replacement.
Careful what you wish for idiot liberals. (redundant last two words)
Posted by: Kahn at July 10, 2006 12:06 AM
CJ-
"Ok, all you leftwing kooks. How many of you had heard of this Hoekstra guy before today? Oh yeah, some influential guy eh? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!"
Was'nt he going around with Rick (I'm 18 points down) Santorum on Fox News talking about how we actually found WMD in Iraq and saying the president was "vindicated"? I seem to remember most of you guy's lining up behind him on that one. Hmmmmmmmm. Guess he is just a small fry nut job huh, CJ ?
Bwahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Leftorium at July 10, 2006 12:17 AM
Leftorium. You are really incoherent. The insane laughing is, well a possible sign of insanity. Please ask your doctor what psychotropic drugs might be appropriate.
Posted by: Kahn at July 10, 2006 12:55 AM
Nice Kahn,
Truly pathetic. Why don't you get it together enough to actually address someone's post rather than just taking the same tired line of 'you're incoherent”. The fact that you even took the time to respond to my post tells me that you know quite well what I'm saying. You may not like it, but you do understand.
Now as for you voting for Delay be careful what you wish for because if Delay is running, he is a politically radioactive politician and no Republican is going to wrap their arms around the guy. Even this site and others like it took down their Defend Delay banners long before he decided to bow out of the election. Why is that? Because Republicans want to forget Delay and they want the public to forget him as well. He comes back in and he runs with a cloud over his head. No matter what happens in the Texas 22nd CD, nationally speaking, he's a negative reminder of the excesses and corruption that have befallen the Republican Party. That's not my bluster that's what's been said in Republican circles. So if Delay get's dragged into this election, and believe me for all of his tough talk he is being dragged into it kicking and screaming, he know's that being in it will leave him less money for his legal defense. So with the prospect of prison on the horizon where would your financial priorities be? Running for a seat that you have maybe a 50% chance of winning or paying your lawyers?
Posted by: Leftorium at July 10, 2006 02:09 AM
CJ,
What are you talking about, man?
Hoekstra is the head of the intelligence committee, this isn't some backwater first term playpen. Hoekstra gets briefed on things that form congressional opinion in matters of war and peace. Don't be silly, this was a serious rebuke of the powers that Bush is consolidating within the Executive branch; not some silly hay-making face time jaunt, and on FOX none the less.
Posted by: Third Eye Open at July 10, 2006 03:03 AM
Leftorium (Insane asylum - I assume thats where you got your hanle). Yes. He is radio active. But, did you get my post? The Democrats insist he be on the ballot. OK. So, we vote for him. He resigns. And the governor gets to name his replacement WITHOUT an election.
I guess you were too stupid to catch that. What with your stupid laughing and all.
Posted by: Kahn at July 10, 2006 12:33 PM
Kahn,
The issue isn't if the governor gets to appoint someone else, the point is that the RNC has to waste millions more dollars on a much closer race in CD22--formerly a shoe-in race--where now the incumbent has about a 50% chance of winning.
I was waiting for someone to Bring up Marion, I would love to be a fly on the wall when republicans have to look themselves in the mirror over whether they are really going to vote for a guy who is in the midst of a VERY visual indictment, do you think good, god-fearin' white folks are going to open themselves up to the snark and ridicule as the district that elected a felon he making?
Posted by: Third Eye Open at July 10, 2006 12:41 PM
Kahn -
(or is that Keefer, you sound strangely similar to one another in your posts)
"But, did you get my post? The Democrats insist he be on the ballot. OK. So, we vote for him. He resigns. And the governor gets to name his replacement WITHOUT an election."
I understand what you're saying.
I don't think you got MY post.
You're counting your chickens to soon. Delay isn't at all as 'electable" as you make him seem. He isn't even close to a shoe in for this one and everyone with an ounce of political intelligence knows that. Why didn't he just take your suggestion from the beginning and just run, win , then be replaced? Because he knows that he's vuneralble and will by most all accounts drag the party down with him if he ran. Why else would he be fighting so hard along with the Republican Party to keep himself OUT? This speech he made about giving Democrats the run of their lives is just classic Delay speak. Of course he's still trying to run....away, that is.
Posted by: Leftorium at July 10, 2006 01:48 PM
Leftorium quote--"Kahn -
(or is that Keefer, you sound strangely similar to one another in your posts)"
__________________________________________________
Yet, MORE!!! assumptions!!
I would NEVER do that!!
The accusations are goin to have to STOP!!
Jeremiah
Posted by: Jeremiah at July 10, 2006 03:05 PM
Canuck, here in the U.S. of A., something has to be illegal before someone can be indicted for doing it. Well, that's the way it used to be, before Ronnie Earle spoke to a Democratic gathering and promised them that he would "get" Tom Delay and then---FINALLY---browbeat a grand jury into indicting Delay. For a something that was not made illegal until after Delay did it.
Here in the U.S. of A. a grand jury is not a finder of fact. It does not hear both sides of a story. It merely listens to the claims of a would-be prosecutor, who can ask present what he calls evidence and ask questions of people to try to support his assertion that he has enough evidence to justify a trial.
Now you and your fellow Libs from our side of the border may be confused by the use of the word "jury" and not understand that to "indict" means merely to "accuse" and somehow get it all muddled up enough to believe that Delay was actually found guilty of a crime. Just as you may thing that a grand jury finds for guilt or innocence.
But here in the U.S. of A. a district attorney is not supposed to use his office for political gain, much less make a promise to do so and then follow through on that promise. He is not supposed to shop through a series of grand juries, berating those who fail to go along with his agenda, continuing till he finally gets one to at least allow him to proceed to trial. He is most definitely not supposed to press charges on something that was not a crime when it happened.
The only reason he did all of these things is because he knew, knew with a certainty based on past experience, that there were enough neorads out there who were either so intellectually or morally deficient (or both) that they would believe that what he had accomplished was to actually find a man guilty of something that was actually a crime.
I understand that he had Ashinine's name on his list of such retards, as well as steve's (peace out) and the Oozing Eye and the other Usual Suspects.
Of course, none of you has bothered to wonder why, once Ronnie Boy got his indictment, he proceeded to stall Delay's efforts to get to a speedy trial. We think it is because he knew that he had nothing, and Delay was a slam-dunk acquittal, if not a dismissal. But his work was done. He didn't need a conviction, with a crew like you not even understanding the difference between an accusation and a conviction. He just needed a legal-sounding word to toss over the fenc to you, knowing that you would run with it.
Posted by:
Almiranta at July 11, 2006 12:18 AM
I hope he does stay in the race and win. That will prove voter fraud because it is common knowledge nobody with an IQ over 40 would vote for him.
Well, that will certainly serve them right when he wins. Delay is being railroaded from start to finish.
No matter how crooked and corrupt a Republican, this site will defend him to the hilt. And don't say a failure to convict proves anything, not with these jackals, they are as slippery as slimy eels.
Ha! I'd love to see Delay win this race!
Ha! I'd love to see Delay win this race!
Matt,
That would be great if Tom Delay decided to run and won. The prosecutor is shameless and pathetic, kind of like the whole dem party.
That will prove voter fraud because it is common knowledge nobody with an IQ over 40 would vote for him.
That is exactly what has me worried, Johann. Most republicans fit the under 40 IQ demographic.
Ash quote--"That is exactly what has me worried, Johann. Most republicans fit the under 40 IQ demographic."
If you are keefer???? then why do you post stuff like this about republicans??
Jeremiah
Johan Moron--spoof
Ashey--spoof who works at a gay bar
Freedom1--suspected spoof, according to a "friend" at a lefty blog
Canuck Guy--obvious spoof, nobody's that stupid on purpose
Matt, ban the spoofers, please.
Keefer-
You are finally coming unhinged guy.
Plots, plots everywhere!! Here a spoof, there a spoof, everywhere a spoof spoof!! LOL
Don't forget to check under your bed for spoofs tonight. ;->
Matt, please don't ban us reprobates. Tweaking Republican noses gives us a purpose in our otherwise empty lives.
keefer?,
Do you think I'm a spoofer?
or is this just some joke by Ash or whoever?
Jeremiah
Well it's finally happening.
The lunatics are forming a circular firing squad.
I must have missed where Tom Delay was conviced of anything?
Can someone on the left please share this with me?
Meanwhile...Marion Berry......
WILL THE REAL kEEFER COME FORWARD PLEASE?!!!!!!!
This is no joking matter, because I don't know WHAT? or WHO? or HOW? to believe now?????
Jeremiah
Speaking as a precinct chair in CD22, I can tell you that it is likely DeLay would win -- because we want to keep the seat Republican.
However, don't expect him to be around in 2008, because he will have real challengers in the primary, not the three jokes like he had this year.
The RNC won't take the chance that when/if he is convicted on these charges, that another Republicrat gets hauled-off to jail during session, as has been said before, "Perception is everything in politics".
As an aside, how about that whistleblower reporting on more secret infringements on civil rights being held from congress by Der Leader? I can't wait to watch Snow explain these ones to his friends in the press pool.
"In the letter, Hoekstra said the failure to brief the intelligence committees "may represent a breach of responsibility by the administration, a violation of law and, just as importantly, a direct affront to me and the members of this committee who have so ardently supported efforts to collect information on our enemies."
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,202689,00.html
Canuck,
The indictment of DeLay was bogus from start to finish - just a bit of natsy, Democratic skullduggery.
Mark- You can't seriously believe that. Are you getting paid by Ken Mehlman to write propaganda for the RNC?
Third Eye Open-
Don't you know that Hoekstra, even though he is a rebublican, is just another one of those left wing liberal liars that are just out to hurt our glorius leader for political gain?! I'll tell you it's "Democratic skullduggery" that's what it is. LMAO!!!!!
Mark, how many grand juries did it Take Ronnie Earle before he could get an indictment? Wasn't it 4? I would have thought it would be illegal to go to another jury after the first one wouldn't indict. Seems like a form of double jeapordy.
Ok, all you leftwing kooks. How many of you had heard of this Hoekstra guy before today? Oh yeah, some influential guy eh? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!
Actually, CJ, it was six -- four of them between Friday morning and Monday afternoon, with most of them refusing charges and one headed by a guy who publicly admits he was for indicting Delay as revenge for a friend's loss of his seat following redstricting.
Perhaps he should run for president with his good friend Abramoff. Sure is sad when a guy doesn't know whether to sh1t or go blind. Peace
i'm the real keefer and i work in a gay toll booth.
I'd vote for him. Then if he resigned after winning - the REPUBLICAN governor could name his replacement.
Careful what you wish for idiot liberals. (redundant last two words)
CJ-
"Ok, all you leftwing kooks. How many of you had heard of this Hoekstra guy before today? Oh yeah, some influential guy eh? Bwahahahahaha!!!!!"
Was'nt he going around with Rick (I'm 18 points down) Santorum on Fox News talking about how we actually found WMD in Iraq and saying the president was "vindicated"? I seem to remember most of you guy's lining up behind him on that one. Hmmmmmmmm. Guess he is just a small fry nut job huh, CJ ?
Bwahhahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!
Leftorium. You are really incoherent. The insane laughing is, well a possible sign of insanity. Please ask your doctor what psychotropic drugs might be appropriate.
Nice Kahn,
Truly pathetic. Why don't you get it together enough to actually address someone's post rather than just taking the same tired line of 'you're incoherent”. The fact that you even took the time to respond to my post tells me that you know quite well what I'm saying. You may not like it, but you do understand.
Now as for you voting for Delay be careful what you wish for because if Delay is running, he is a politically radioactive politician and no Republican is going to wrap their arms around the guy. Even this site and others like it took down their Defend Delay banners long before he decided to bow out of the election. Why is that? Because Republicans want to forget Delay and they want the public to forget him as well. He comes back in and he runs with a cloud over his head. No matter what happens in the Texas 22nd CD, nationally speaking, he's a negative reminder of the excesses and corruption that have befallen the Republican Party. That's not my bluster that's what's been said in Republican circles. So if Delay get's dragged into this election, and believe me for all of his tough talk he is being dragged into it kicking and screaming, he know's that being in it will leave him less money for his legal defense. So with the prospect of prison on the horizon where would your financial priorities be? Running for a seat that you have maybe a 50% chance of winning or paying your lawyers?
CJ,
What are you talking about, man?
Hoekstra is the head of the intelligence committee, this isn't some backwater first term playpen. Hoekstra gets briefed on things that form congressional opinion in matters of war and peace. Don't be silly, this was a serious rebuke of the powers that Bush is consolidating within the Executive branch; not some silly hay-making face time jaunt, and on FOX none the less.
Leftorium (Insane asylum - I assume thats where you got your hanle). Yes. He is radio active. But, did you get my post? The Democrats insist he be on the ballot. OK. So, we vote for him. He resigns. And the governor gets to name his replacement WITHOUT an election.
I guess you were too stupid to catch that. What with your stupid laughing and all.
Kahn,
The issue isn't if the governor gets to appoint someone else, the point is that the RNC has to waste millions more dollars on a much closer race in CD22--formerly a shoe-in race--where now the incumbent has about a 50% chance of winning.
I was waiting for someone to Bring up Marion, I would love to be a fly on the wall when republicans have to look themselves in the mirror over whether they are really going to vote for a guy who is in the midst of a VERY visual indictment, do you think good, god-fearin' white folks are going to open themselves up to the snark and ridicule as the district that elected a felon he making?
Kahn -
(or is that Keefer, you sound strangely similar to one another in your posts)
"But, did you get my post? The Democrats insist he be on the ballot. OK. So, we vote for him. He resigns. And the governor gets to name his replacement WITHOUT an election."
I understand what you're saying.
I don't think you got MY post.
You're counting your chickens to soon. Delay isn't at all as 'electable" as you make him seem. He isn't even close to a shoe in for this one and everyone with an ounce of political intelligence knows that. Why didn't he just take your suggestion from the beginning and just run, win , then be replaced? Because he knows that he's vuneralble and will by most all accounts drag the party down with him if he ran. Why else would he be fighting so hard along with the Republican Party to keep himself OUT? This speech he made about giving Democrats the run of their lives is just classic Delay speak. Of course he's still trying to run....away, that is.
Leftorium quote--"Kahn -
(or is that Keefer, you sound strangely similar to one another in your posts)"
__________________________________________________
Yet, MORE!!! assumptions!!
I would NEVER do that!!
The accusations are goin to have to STOP!!
Jeremiah
Canuck, here in the U.S. of A., something has to be illegal before someone can be indicted for doing it. Well, that's the way it used to be, before Ronnie Earle spoke to a Democratic gathering and promised them that he would "get" Tom Delay and then---FINALLY---browbeat a grand jury into indicting Delay. For a something that was not made illegal until after Delay did it.
Here in the U.S. of A. a grand jury is not a finder of fact. It does not hear both sides of a story. It merely listens to the claims of a would-be prosecutor, who can ask present what he calls evidence and ask questions of people to try to support his assertion that he has enough evidence to justify a trial.
Now you and your fellow Libs from our side of the border may be confused by the use of the word "jury" and not understand that to "indict" means merely to "accuse" and somehow get it all muddled up enough to believe that Delay was actually found guilty of a crime. Just as you may thing that a grand jury finds for guilt or innocence.
But here in the U.S. of A. a district attorney is not supposed to use his office for political gain, much less make a promise to do so and then follow through on that promise. He is not supposed to shop through a series of grand juries, berating those who fail to go along with his agenda, continuing till he finally gets one to at least allow him to proceed to trial. He is most definitely not supposed to press charges on something that was not a crime when it happened.
The only reason he did all of these things is because he knew, knew with a certainty based on past experience, that there were enough neorads out there who were either so intellectually or morally deficient (or both) that they would believe that what he had accomplished was to actually find a man guilty of something that was actually a crime.
I understand that he had Ashinine's name on his list of such retards, as well as steve's (peace out) and the Oozing Eye and the other Usual Suspects.
Of course, none of you has bothered to wonder why, once Ronnie Boy got his indictment, he proceeded to stall Delay's efforts to get to a speedy trial. We think it is because he knew that he had nothing, and Delay was a slam-dunk acquittal, if not a dismissal. But his work was done. He didn't need a conviction, with a crew like you not even understanding the difference between an accusation and a conviction. He just needed a legal-sounding word to toss over the fenc to you, knowing that you would run with it.