Churchill is a nutjob. I saw him on Hannity & Combs and all I could do is roll my eyes.

He talks in circles, and uses lots of adjectives, so it SOUNDS like he is talking big and saying important things. LOL When if you REALLY listen to him, he is making no sense at all. LOL

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Fire the guy and any like him. He should have been fired long before this. We don't need professors like him teaching our students. We and they deserve better than that. He is a disgrace to our education system and a prime example of what's wrong with the system today!

If people want their kids taught by professors like Churchill then send him and them to private colleges which do not receive any taxpayer funding!

I heard Churchill on Fox News in an interview with Sean Hannity. That interview confirmed my opinion and everything I have read about the guy!

AAR

AFWIFE,

RE: "He talks in circles, and uses lots of adjectives, so it SOUNDS like he is talking big and saying important things. When if you REALLY listen to him, he is making no sense at all."

You hit the nail squarely on the head. After you sort through all of his gobbledygook, double talk, diversions, and meaningless "big fancy sounding" words... HE SAID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!

He didn't make a good "visual" impression and his "body language" was equally bad!

We need to comb the universities for people like him and purge them from the system!

AAR

AAR: Exactly! Other then rolling my eyes, I was saying alot of "huh?" "what?". LOL!

Mark, you spelled Administration wrong.

Oh give me a break! It is a typo, big difference then spelling something wrong. And who cares? Seriously! This is not a college term paper. It is a blog.

Get over yourself and go play with your toys.

Why do you guys hate freedom of speech so much?

Oh and why do you still worship Ann Coulter who says equally offensive things?

Republican/Conservative double-standards at work.

Wade

AFWIFE: Lighten up. TL was just being facetious and taking every opportunity to annoy Mark

CHURCHILL = NUT!!

Jeremiah

teeny is just so excited about what he learned in spelling class today, he wanted to share. But he is annoying, isn't he?

I live in Colorado and have been enduring much more of the Churchill saga than most of you have had to. And to me, the worst thing about him, personally, is that he teaches things that are not true.

Now, I can understand and agree with the argument that college is to teach kids HOW to think, more than WHAT to think. But Churchill, and thousands like him, are propagandists for an ardently anti-American agenda, and to accomplish it they teach absolute lies as the truth. They do not teach the truth and then introduce other positions or theories for comparison and discussion.

And at the University of Colorado, and at most other colleges and universities, the monopoly held by radical Liberals has stifled free speech and limited the educational options of students. While braying about "Freedom of Speech" these storm troopers try to stop any speech by anyone not on their side of the political aisle. When David Horowitz was scheduled to speak at Metropolitan State College in Denver, the lefties tried to get the adminstration to cancel his speech, then tried to get students to boycott his speech, then tried to stop people from entering the auditorium, and then tried to silence him by heckling him. Horowitz' speech? It was about freedom of speech on college campuses.

Students are penalized for expressing conservative points of view, being openly ridiculed in class and even having their grades lowered if they do not line up with the Liberals.

Churchill is only the greasy, unkempt, ignorant, incoherent, tip of the Liberal iceberg in academia. His only redeeming quality is that he has brought the ugly underbelly of higher education into view.

And he has a history of violence, as well, in addition to his falsifying of his resume and his plagerism. He has threatened people who have tried to stand up to him.

Churchill is an employee. He works at the pleasure of his employer; as all of us employees do. He has lied, even about his academic background, and plagiarized and brought disgrace on the university. All are legitimate bases for termination and he should have no recourse. Firing him would help improve the university's image; doing nothing will continue to erode it. As it should.

Churchill is an employee. He works at the pleasure of his employer; as all of us employees do. He has lied, even about his academic background, and plagiarized and brought disgrace on the university. All are legitimate bases for termination and he should have no recourse. Firing him would help improve the university's image; doing nothing will continue to erode it. As it should.

Every organization has a right to police its membership and no one has a right to remain a member of an organization which disagrees with him.
-Mark

Kind of like Colin Powell, eh?

In all seriousness though, dissent in an organization can be a good thing, but this guy just seems to be more than a little bit crazy. He probably should be fired, but I doubt that they will take their cues from Blogs for Bush.

Every year on Columbus Day, Churchill leads a bunch of gullible followers and disrupts the Knights of Columbus Parade. A couple of years ago he laid down in the street and obstructed the marchers path.

Even I think he is a whack job.

almiranta: Churchill is only the greasy, unkempt, ignorant, incoherent, tip of the Liberal iceberg in academia. His only redeeming quality is that he has brought the ugly underbelly of higher education into view.

Well everyone can't get into Bob Jones University. Churchill is in a category all by himself. I don't think it is fair to use him to stereotype college professors.

Ash,

But it is a rare bird the professor who opens his mouth in public and doesn't make a fool of himself...we do begin to wonder just what sort of selection process there is for professors in higher education...is it that the stupidest man gets the tenure?

Mark,

Of course there are professors that open their mouths and make fools of themselves. Did you consider that it is mostly the fools that open their mouths. That the majority of teachers are not fools and they just keep their mouths shut.

I think a college should have a liberal bias. In the sense that it challenges students to think for themselves. That it challenges the status quo. The existing dogmas that can stand the scrutiny stand. Weak or destructive philosophy is revealed and discarded. That is the way we can improve as a society.

Wade,
See how they ignore you when you're right?

Ash, What Crap!
That’s the usual superior condescension we’ve come to expect from elitist liberals like you. Liberalism is a dogma that allows for no dissention, and no deviation from the socialist orthodoxy. Liberals don’t “think for themselves” they lack the capacity to review facts rationally; there is only emotionalism; feelings are more important than facts, and intentions more desirable than results. Go graze on some tree bark, hippy.

Mark,
Speaking from personal experience, collages and universities recruit professors and grad students that bring something to academia that would be desirable to the alumni and university sponsors. The object is to have a recruiting tool for incoming students; awards, accolades and recognition within their field is paramount to the recruiting process.

Once in, the faculty doesn’t make waves until they’ve been tenured, then all hell breaks loose. A NASA scientist with credentials longer than a German giving directions, can become a lightning rod by espousing outrageous thesis and getting headlines that were unavailable to them when they actually had to produce something for NASA.

Still, the publicity these loose cannons bring to the University is normally desirable, as it draws attention to the university, sometimes unwanted, but always free publicity.

Like the monkey’s paw, be careful what you wish for; the Ward Churchill’s that get your institution on the front page of every paper in the world are near impossible to rid yourself of when the do begin to truly embarrass the institution.

Parker and Wade,
Ann Coulter is in the marketplace of ideas, if you don't like her thesis, don't buy her books. A professor is paid by the taxpayers, and is by definition required to follow by the students also paying for the privilege. The professors are also required by contract to be accurate and truthful; Churchill is neither.

Bane,
I essentially agree with what you’re saying and I'm not arguing that he should be fired. However, I just don’t understand how certain ideas stated by Churchill make him a “wicked jerk” while the same ideas by Coulter are defended.

Parker,
It's the forum; Ann Coulter can, and does make outrageous claims but does so at risk to her own financial state. No one is required to listen to, or agree with her ideas. She can be dismissed as easily as I can dismiss TEO and his ridiculous assertions. Personally, I enjoy Coulter’s sardonic wit; her absurdities are intentional.
First Amendment rights have severe limits in the classroom, teachers (or professors) are not permitted fabricate evidence, plagiarize other sources, or misrepresent truth in the course of a lesson. The fact that Churchill’s students must accept his version of facts in order to pass his course makes his outrageous claims that much more egregious. He is free to say whatever he wants, outside of the classroom; and we have every right to call him on his absurdities; but to claim academic freedom as an excuse to lie is not acceptable at that, or any other institution of learning.

"Ann Coulter is in the marketplace of ideas,"

Bane,

But which one's are hers and which ones has she plagerized?

"Ann Coulter is in the marketplace of ideas,"

Bane,

But which one's are hers and which ones has she plagerized?

As you said: are not permitted fabricate evidence, plagiarize other sources, or misrepresent truth in the course of a lesson.

This is why Coulter is such a laughing stock.

almiranta: Speaking of a crock, you said:

"Liberalism is a dogma that allows for no dissention"

Dissention, while not incorrect, is not as acceptable as dissension, so I will allow it.

Ash,
I think you’ve been lying in the meadow too long; I wrote that, not Al. And gee, thanks for allowing my correct use of the English language, mighty big of you, you impertinent snob.

What classes does Ann Coulter teach and for what institution?

Bane,
"Personally, I enjoy Coulter’s sardonic wit; her absurdities are intentional."

So can I presume that you also enjoy Churchill's sardonic wit (as they are saying essentially the same thing in the context of this thread) as long as it is expressed outside of the classroom?

Churchill’s wit? The man doesn’t seem to have this capacity; sardonic or otherwise.
As I’ve stated before; Churchill and Ash may make fools of themselves in any forum they wish, as long as I have the right (and obligation) to point out their foolishness, and ignore them if I wish. Churchill’s students don’t have that right.
Without this bully pulpit, Churchill would be just another fringe lunatic lying in the street in front of Ash’s house.

plagiarize? Can't accept that one, bane or alm. Pretty sloppy work for a small bean counter.

What classes does Ann Coulter teach and for what institution?

So teachers are the only professionals to be held accountable? Plagerism is plagarism is plagarism.

BTW, Bane are you on vacation, AGAIN? Or posting on taxpayers time? Just asking.

My intimation is that al and bane are one and the same.

BGTW, spellings were altered for sardonic wit. I deny being a snob so must occasionally remind you, bane, it is you, the bean counter not I. Hahaha!

Right Ash, Al and I are actually twins with different mothers, born in different states two years apart.

I know the drugs make it hard for you to keep up, (the 60’s weren’t kind to you were they?) but we’re talking about Churchill losing his job … for lying … and plagiarizing … and research misconduct, all the while on the public payroll.

And I am on vacation; enjoying the ride while my wife drives to Solvang. I hope to find a Danish street vendor that does funny Mohammed caricatures.

I didn't bring up Ann Coulter

"almiranta: Speaking of a crock, you said:

"Liberalism is a dogma that allows for no dissention" Ash

Ashole: The democrat treatment of Joe Lieberman is a perfect example of the dissent which is allowed by liberals. Nominee for VIce President when it was convenient...now thrown under the bus.

Joe never left the party, the party left him.

"almiranta: Speaking of a crock, you said:

"Liberalism is a dogma that allows for no dissention" Ash

Ashole: The democrat treatment of Joe Lieberman is a perfect example of the dissent which is allowed by liberals. Nominee for Vice President when it was convenient...now thrown under the bus.

Joe never left the party, the party left him.

I hope to find a Danish street vendor that does funny Mohammed caricatures.

Now don't go losing your head while on vacation...

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