The FBI isn't part of the DHS... how does that relate?

how true! New Yorkers think that their state is the only target of terrorists... clearly, other cities are at risk too.

The losers at KOS are more upset about a headline describing "black muslims" than the plot. Of course, they think this is an election trick.

God bless you President George W. Bush for keeping us safe from attack. The dems must be pissed about this one.

REBUILD THE TOWERS

"The official told The Associated Press the alleged plotters were mainly Americans with no apparent ties to al-Qaida or other foreign terrorist organizations."-AP

American Muslims engaged in terrorism against America. Islam is a religion of death. America should outlaw Islam on the grounds that it is a violent terrorist ideology and deport those who refuse to give up Islam.

Ban religion? Sounds like KOS talk...

Ban Islam, not religion. Nazism was banned in Germany after World War II. Same principle.

Except Nazism wasn't a religion...

You'll just be laying the foundation for hte banning of christianity when the left gain power in 2096.

The Sears tower? Isn't that also partly owned by Larry Silverstein, the owner of the WTC that made BILLIONS in pure profit off 9/11 insurance settlements?

"Two investors who are part of Larry Silverstein's group that owns the World Trade Center lease are among the buyers of the Sears Tower..."

Isn't it funny how terrorists always seem to target Mr. Silversteins's investments?

What do you want to bet that this building will be the next terrorists attack when Bush wants to lock down america under martial law?

Things that make you go hmmm ...

Except Nazism wasn't a religion...

You'll just be laying the foundation for hte banning of christianity when the left gain power in 2096.

Posted by: Jonathan

No, it's not. Islam ,however, is both a religion and a political system. But, that's not the main issue. You say that banning the violent religion of Islam will lay the ground work for banning Christianity in 2096. The same argument could be made with restrictions on free speech. The Constitution guarantees freedom of speech, right? Yet, it's illegal to yell, "Fire!" in a crowded theatre. Why? Because people are likely to get hurt. Islam is totally incompatible with non-Islamic nations and people. The Qur'an even forbids Muslims to make friends with Christians and Jews. I'm hardly the first one to point out that Islam should be recognized as the violent terrorist ideology that it is and be outlawed.

Thank you Axis for bringing in the conspiracy theory. Once again a well thought out and inciteful post. Kudos! [/sarcasim]

Good job on stopping the plot reguardless. Here's to all the hard working folks who stopped it. Cheers!

Perhaps Islam isn't entirely a religion. Perhaps it is a murderous cult hiding behind the face of a religion. This realization should then reduce its freedom to operate as a legitimate religion. Is a "religion" that forces it way on people throughout world history with bloodshed and intimidation to be protected by our freedom of religion? I think this freedom can be curtailed to match the threat and harm to the people.

I vote we can BAN Axis from this site. He really adds nothing of value and just waste space. As I stated in the past, he is truly an ignorant person.

Youre right Axis, the tallest building in America would not be a target except for the reason you stated. You sir, are retarded.

yes, ban Axis, shiply and that frawg person. This is blogs FOR bush, go back to DU where you belong. Honestly he really adds nothing but mindless drivel in each and every post.

I frankly am inclined to agree with john Leach as far as Islam is concearned. frankly just because its a "religion" doesnt mean we should turn a blind eye and say go about your merry way. Thats just asking for disaster, we did that for 9 freaking years, and look at where that got us. 3,000 dead in a single day..... think, do we really want to lose another 30,000+ (not a typo, I typed those 4 zeros) just in the name of tolerance. I don't think so. If that makes me intollerant (sp) so be it, I'd rather be safe thank you very much. Saying Islam isnt dangerous is like saying Im a rattlesnake isn't dangerous.

How many religions do you see encouraging blowing people up with themselves, each and every bloody day, I only see one, what about you guys.

Come on, now. It wouldn't be any fun if axis and others were banned (and I don't think Georgia or Tom are that bad ... even TEO has made some good points).

Did anyone catch the interview on CNN with one of the "brothers" of the group? When asked if they had any allegiance to any terrorist group like AQ, the "brother" said he couldn't comment. Hmmmm.

Well done, FBI and others involved, and thank God for the Patriot Act!!

I used to be of the "ban axis, et. al" camp until I realized that as long as they continue to post here, they would be shining examples of liberal tolerance (NOT!). We should continue to see them for who they are and what they stand for.

Gentlemen,

your hoods are slipping.

Axis -
Did it ever occur to you that the term "Freedom comes at a great cost", not only ref. to the lives of those who fight to protect this country (and yes, even you)& money, but sometimes it comes at the cost of being willing to put some of our rights on hold in times of war, and in this case, we'll add Terrorism. Get a clue.
I think our President is doing a fine job, he was dealt a tough hand almost immediately after taking office and he has dealt with hard situations in a consistent manner. Give the man a break! At least he knows how to follow through and doesn't flip flop every time the wind blows.

I agree that Georgia and Tom are not that bad.

Tom is actually someone who is probably very intelligent, eventhough I disagree with much of what he has to say. I have to give Tom respect in that he does not soley argue off emotion unlike most of the left. He does make some valid points and has even made me go back and double check my own sources of info to make sure I have got my story right.

With that said...AXIS IS BEYOND HOPE.

KCJ -
How true. To hell with whiney NY, Chicago, and LA. I say more Federal aid for Arkansas and Nebraska where it's needed most!

Is a "religion" that forces it way on people throughout world history with bloodshed and intimidation to be protected by our freedom of religion?

Yes, Christianity is protected by our freedom of religion. Thanks for asking.

FROGGIE: ALL agencies become part of "Homeland Security", and finally, (Not under Clintonistas)
they are conferring with EACH OTHER, and sharing
INFO, to thwart, those who want to kill Americans
Why, do we have to "keep splain'n this stuff to you"----? Protecting the "Homeland-America" is what it's all about, Froglegs-

I'll try this again- Froggie: ALL agencies are
under "Homeland---America's protection". It is the first time All agencies are working together,
sharing information, in order to protect us, and
thwart cells/would-be Terrorists, such as Florida
nuts yesterday. These agencies were "gutted, and
in total disarray, when Clintons/Gore were in office, as they had no "ONE" objective-PROTECT AMERICANS, AS PRESIDENT BUSH HAS DONE ON HIS WATCH. NOT, that this matters to you, in your spewed hatred/liberalism-as you and your ilk, hate
this President, who 'AGAIN, INHERITED THE PROBLEMS OF THE INEPT, PRIOR ADMINISTRATION"

axis,

You want to worry about who owns the Sears tower? You want to worry that the owners may have received insurance settlements for what happened to the World Trade Center? You want to create and push more of your irresponsible liberal idiotic "conspiracy theories" to feed the unthinking brains of your liberals flock -- in the hopes you can stimulate and keep them alive?!!!

Well go right ahead. There's nothing we can do, for now, to stop you!

Why don't we just eliminate insurance and the insurance agencies? After all, anyone who loses their buildings and property are probably terrorist supporters who destroyed their buildings and the people in them just to get the insurance money. Stop the insurance money and we stop those killers, right? WRONG!

Why would the terrorist want to destroy the Sears Tower? To give Larry Silverstein (or whomever) a big insurance pay out? To hurt the insurance companies? No, axis. Let's think about it. The Sears Tower is now the tallest building in America and one that most people recognize -- just as they do our nations monuments and national symbols. Thousands of "potential victims" work in the Sears Tower, just as they do in other tall skyscrapers -- many of which are likely terrorists targets as well. Just think, axis, about the worldwide publicity the terrorists will get and the damage they will cause once again to America's and the world's economies -- just like after 9/11.

It may come as a surprise to you, but the terrorists don't care one bit about who owns those buildings, whether or not they are insured, or whether or not the owners make billions or go broke from their terrorism. Terrorists want the maximum destruction, the maximum number of Americans killed, the maximum shock, and the maximum [pro-terrorist] coverage by the liberal news media to support their goal of reducing America's power and influence around the world. ...Coincidentally that's the SAME GOAL LIBERALS HAVE!!!

Well, fortunately, you and your liberal friends aren't in charge of America's security. Most Americans are concerned about the thousands of PEOPLE who worked IN the WTC and who work IN the Sears Tower and other office building. Most Americans are concerned about them and their families and about stopping those who want to kill them.

Not you liberals though, your first concern is about who owns the building and whether they are profiting from the insurance. Meanwhile, as you work on your "latest conspiracy theory" other real terrorists and murders are working on their next killing spree! That's what we get from our liberal schools, colleges, and universities though. Fox News had a nutty professor on who ACTUALLY SUGGESTED that those far out left-field conspiracy theories SHOULD BE TAUGHT in our colleges and universities! No wonder Americans can't think!

You and your liberal friends worry about Larry Silverstein (or whomever). ...The rest of us will worry about trying to stop the terrorists and protect Americans from the results of your anti-American hatred.

It would helpful though if you and your liberal Democrats could stop releasing the secret information to the press and terrorists about what we are doing and our efforts to stop them from killing the next group of Americans!

The liberal agenda and the liberal anti-Bush, anti-American hate propaganda is encouraging terrorists all over the world, not just in Iraq and Afghanistan. The liberal agenda and their racist slant and propaganda within America is responsible for much of the hate within America that is tearing the nation apart and encouraging people within American to kill other Americans!

It is very likely that we are just seeing the beginning of the results of your left wing liberal anti-Bush, anti-America, anti-war, anti-military propaganda campaign around the world and here at home!

It isn't President Bush who is the problem, it is you liberals and your hate campaign who are to blame.

We need to do everything we can to get that message across to all Americans.

We need to repeat that message over and over until Americans begin to think and understand!

AAR

Yes. AAR,

Be glad that we liberals aren't in charge of security, for if we were, we;

would have secured the borders, which you have not done, nuclear weapons pass thru easily

would have secured the airports, which you have not done, bomb materials easily smuggled aboard

would have secured the ports, which again you have not done, only inspecting 4% of incoming cargo containers, leaving 96% totally unchecked.

Also you have failed to even do background checks on the ports employees, for 5 years after 9/11, something we would have done

would have finished the job in afganistan, instead of attacking iraq, which had no terrorists or posed any REAL threat to the US.

would have left FEMA as it was, which is far better than it is now, under a second level of bureaucracy, which would have saved countless lives after Katrina

Would have heeded the pre-9/11 warnings and memos and taken action, instead of a holiday like Bush took

yes, AAR, be glad that we are not in charge, for we would have succeeded in protecting America, where the Bush administration has failed miserably.

Yes. AAR,

Be glad that we liberals aren't in charge of security, for if we were, we;

would have secured the borders, which you have not done, nuclear weapons pass thru easily

would have secured the airports, which you have not done, bomb materials easily smuggled aboard

would have secured the ports, which again you have not done, only inspecting 4% of incoming cargo containers, leaving 96% totally unchecked.

Also you have failed to even do background checks on the ports employees, for 5 years after 9/11, something we would have done

would have finished the job in afganistan, instead of attacking iraq, which had no terrorists or posed any REAL threat to the US.

would have left FEMA as it was, which is far better than it is now, under a second level of bureaucracy, which would have saved countless lives after Katrina

Would have heeded the pre-9/11 warnings and memos and taken action, instead of a holiday like Bush took

yes, AAR, be glad that we are not in charge, for we would have succeeded in protecting America, where the Bush administration has failed miserably.

axis,

As the old saying goes, talk is cheap... and there is NONE CHEAPER than that from a liberal!!!

A person -- even a nutty liberal -- can say or claim they can do anything... as long as they aren't the ones doing it!!!

Liberal Democrats can claim they will remove everyone from welfare and put them to work!

Liberal Democrats can claim they will secure our borders, but they won't even vote to do that BEFORE discussing what to do with the illegal aliens who are already here. Why? Because they want those illegal voters HERE to VOTE ILLEGALLY for Democrats!

Yes, liberal Democrats will secure the border. They will secure it so those ten to twenty million illegal immigrant can't "get out" and return to Mexico until after they have voted -- illegally -- for Democrats!

Liberals can even claim they support actions to stop terrorists from blowing up our buildings, cities, and the American people in them. But, in fact, the liberal traitors -- likely Democrats -- can't even do something so apparent and simple as to keep our nation's national security programs secret! You, your liberal friends, and your accomplishes in the liberal media could help if you would quit supporting terrorists and telling them about our efforts to catch them before they kill American families.

Yes, axis, liberals could do a lot to help America and our efforts to provide security to American men, women, children, and their families... you and your liberal terrorist supporters could KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT and quit broadcasting our nation's secrets to terrorists around the world.

(If Clinton had not raised the liberal white and yellow flag and ran from Somalia, maybe we wouldn't even have the problems we have today.)

AAR

OK, I finally get it. As it is impossible for anyone to actually be as stupid as the axis character posting here, it is obvious that this is a scam. We've been punked. This is like Ali G, to the max.

Look at the ranting on some other thread, where first Bush had a memo on his desk for a month outlining the attack on 9/11 but ignored it to go fishing or something, and then in the same post he explained that one of the buildings was actually mined for detonation, as "proved" by the fact it fell down, and made noise when it did so.

I still haven't got that all figured out. Bush knew the buildings would be attacked and just didn't care? Bush didn't even read the memo? Bush stood to gain by having the buildings fall? Bush owned the insurance company that insured the buildings? No, that wouldn't work---Bush secretly owned the buildings and wanted them to fall down so he could collect the insurance so he let them be attacked? Set them up to be attacked? Were the buildings set up to be demolished after the memo was received, so the falling-down could be blamed on the attack? Or were they mined first, and then the memo sent, and if that is so, why send the memo? Did Bush hire the terrorists? Were there even any terrorists? Were the planes really flown by remote control? How did the demo people hide all the explosives and wires from the people working in the building? From the janitors? Why not attack them on a weekend? Were the workers part of a group "known" to be hated by Bush? (Poor people, black people, ???) How many people did it take to set up the demolition charges? Why have none of them spoken about this? Are they all DEAD????? Were they all KILLED to HIDE this SECRET????

What about the rocket that hit the Pentagon? The one they later LIED about and claimed was a plane? Where are the pasengers who were on the plane they LIED about and claimed hit the Pentagon? Are they still alive somewhere? On a secret island? Lost? Or were they all killed in a giant COVERUP? Why did they shoot at the Pentagon in the first place if they really just wanted to take down some NYC buildings?

Flight 93? Fact or Fiction? Headed for the White House? Crashed or not? A plot to kill Cheney? An excuse to remodel? The only way to be sure the Clinton Cooties were all dead?

But the big one----after all the decades of successfully dropping buildings, many of those demolitions carefully recorded for study, each and every one of them being dropped by blowing out the lower stories and supports first so the buildings would fall in on themselves, HOW and WHY did they set THIS one up to collapse from the top down?