For people who claim to be the enlightened ones and the "open minded" people, they sure are close minded to our ideas.

I'm approaching my mid 40's and I've never seen a culture of hate so much as the liberals currently have towards the President. It's really quite sad and shameful the some much hate and anger is spewed towards one man.

They should be pitied.

For people who claim to be the enlightened ones and the "open minded" people, they sure are close minded to our ideas.

I'm approaching my mid 40's and I've never seen a culture of hate so much as the liberals currently have towards the President. It's really quite sad and shameful the some much hate and anger is spewed towards one man.

They should be pitied.

Leftists are dysfunctional about Bush. They call him clueless. Which relly means that "he is clueless that what's really right is their way of doing things and he's wrong." They just can't concede and admit that he's right on any point. Not that Bush is always right. But for them he is never right, he is always wrong. They are as stuborn as their party's symbol the jackass.

Again I bring you this great article from a liberal who saw the light and converted....there is hope for some of these people, especially the young ones.

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Leaving the Left (How I learned to stop worrying and hate the terrorists)
By Seth Swirsky

I used to be a liberal. I was in one of the first "open" classrooms growing up in very progressive Great Neck, New York, in the 1960s. In 1971, when I was 11, I wrote vitriolic letters to President Nixon demanding an end to the Vietnam War. My first vote, in 1980, was for Independent John Anderson, followed by Mondale, Dukakis, and Clinton-Gore. I read Thomas Friedman in the NY Times and tried to "understand" the "root causes" of the "despair" he said the Palestinians felt that drove them to blow up innocent Israelis. I wasn't an overtly political person - I just never veered from the liberal zeitgeist of the community in which I was raised.

But when I was about 27, in the late 1980s, cracks in my liberal worldview began to appear. It started with an uproar from the Left when Tipper Gore had the audacity to suggest a label on certain CDs to warn parents of lyrics that were clearly inappropriate for young people. Her suggestion was simple common sense and I was surprised by the furor it caused from the likes of Frank Zappa (and others) who felt their freedoms were being encroached upon. It was my first introduction into the entitled, selfish and irresponsible thinking I now associate with the Left.

In 1989, I remember questioning whether Democrat David Dinkins was the best choice for Mayor of New York City (where I lived) over Rudy Giuliani. After all, Dinkins' biggest claim to fame was as a city clerk in the Marriage License Bureau while Giuliani, as a United States District Attorney, had just de-fanged the mob. But, racial "healing" was the issue of the day, Dinkins won, and the city went straight downhill. When Giuliani beat Dinkins in a rematch four years later - Surprise! - the crime rate plummeted, tourism boomed, Times Square came alive not with pimps but with commerce. Since 1993, the overwhelmingly liberal electorate in New York City has voted for Republicans for Mayor. Yet, to this day, many of my liberal friends refer to the decisive and effective Giuliani as a Nazi, even as they stroll their children through neighborhoods he cleaned up.

After moving to Los Angeles in the early 90s, I watched from the roof of my apartment building as the city burned after the Rodney King verdicts were handed down. I thought what those four cops did to King was shameful. But I didn't hear an uproar from my friends on the Left when rioters rampaged through the city's streets, stealing, looting, and destroying property in the name of "no justice, no peace." And it was impossible not to notice the hypocrisy when prominent Hollywood liberals, who had hosted anti-NRA fundraisers at their homes a week before the riots were standing in line at shooting ranges the week after it.

I watched carefully as Anita Hill testified during Clarence Thomas's Supreme Court nomination hearing, claiming Thomas - once head of the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission - sexually harassed her after she rebuffed his invitations to date him. At the time, I rooted, as did all my friends, for Miss Hill, hoping that her testimony would result in Thomas not getting confirmed. In retrospect, I'm ashamed that I was ever on the "side" of people who so viciously demonized a decent, qualified person like Judge Thomas, whether you agree with his judicial philosophy or not. Condoleezza Rice, during eligibility hearings for both National Security Advisor and Secretary of State, also had to deal with rude people like Barbara Boxer, who seemed not to be able to fathom that a black American could embrace conservatism.

I voted for Al Gore in 2000. When he lost, I was disappointed, mostly in my fellow Democrats for thinking that the election had been "stolen" and in having forgotten their American history. The Electoral College has elected three other Presidents in our history: John Quincy Adams in1824, Rutherford B. Hayes in 1876, and Benjamin Harrison in1888. The rush to judgment by the now conspiracy consumed Left put me off. Where, I asked, were all the "disenfranchised" black voters who would have given Gore a victory in Florida? No one could produce a single name. And how exactly were the voting machines in Ohio "rigged" in 2004? I now refer to the Democrats as the Grassy Knoll party.

Still, I approached the 2004 primaries with an open mind. I was still a Democrat, still hoping that leaders like Sam Nunn and Scoop Jackson would emerge, still fantasizing that Democrats could constitute a party of truly progressive social thinkers with tough backbones who would reappear after 9/11.

I was wrong. The Left got nuttier, more extreme, less contributory to the public debate, more obsessed with their nemesis Bush - and it drove me further away. What Democrat could support Al Gore's '04 choice for President, Howard Dean, when Dean didn't dismiss the suggestion that George W. Bush had something to do with the 9/11 attacks? Or when the second most powerful Senate Democrat, Dick Durbin, thought our behavior at the detention center in Guantanamo was equivalent to Bergen Belsen and the Soviet gulags? Or when Senator Kennedy equated the unfortunate but small incident at Abu Ghraib with Saddam's 40-year record of mass murder, rape rooms, and mass graves saying, "Saddam's torture chambers have reopened under new management, U.S. management"? What Democrat could not applaud the fact that President had, in fact, kept us safe for what's going on 5 years? What Democrat - even those who opposed the decision to go into Iraq - wouldn't applaud the fact that tens of millions of previously brutalized people had the hope of freedom before them?

What made me leave the Left for good and embrace the Right were their respective reactions to 9/11. While The New York Times doubted that we could succeed in Afghanistan because the Soviets in the '80s hadn't, George W. Bush went directly after the Taliban and Al Qaeda and crushed them in short order. Although many on the Left claim to have backed the President's actions, the self-doubt leading up to it, crystallized my view of the Left as weak and terminally lacking in confidence.

I supported President Bush's hard line against the father of modern terrorism, Yasir Arafat, remembering that Bush's predecessor hosted Arafat at the White House 13 times, more often than any other world leader. I applauded Bush's unequivocal support for Israel, which every day faced (and faces) suicide attacks against its people. But I was most disappointed with liberal Jews who don't understand that their very existence is rooted in Israel's existence and that George W. Bush has been the best friend that Israel has ever had. But because they are less Jewish than they are liberal, they didn't reward Bush with their vote in 2004.

Finally, I supported President Bush's decision to oust Saddam and make possible the only democracy (other than Israel) in this crucial region of the Middle East. Post 9/11, we had to figure out a way to lessen the chances of more 9/11s. Democracy is a weapon in that war. If people are free to build businesses, buy homes, send their children to schools, pursue upward mobility, live their lives without fear, read newspapers of every opinion, vote for their leaders, resolve differences with debate and not bombs, they will have no reason to want to harm us.

In response, the Left offered bumper-sticker-type arguments like, Bush lied and thousands died. But Bush never lied. He, like Clinton and Gore and Kerry and the U.N. and the British and French and Israeli intelligence services affirmed that Saddam's WMD were a vital threat - a threat, that post- 9/11, could not stand. An overwhelming number of Democrats voted for the war - but now the Left says they were "scared" into their votes by Bush. What does it say about Democrats if the "dummy" they think Bush is can scare them so easily?

Iraq is the "Normandy" of the War on Terror. The hope, once Iraq and Afghanistan are more stable, is that the nearly 70 million people in Iran will look at those countires (on it's left and right borders) and say: "Why do these people get to vote, send their women to school, and buy Nikes and we don't?" - and then topple their Mullah's dictatorial regime. The President understands the big picture -- that if the U.S. doesn't help to remake that volatile region, we will face a nuclear version of 9/11 within the next two or five or 10 years. He is simply being realistic in his outlook and responsible in his actions. Iraq is succeeding, slowly but surely, but that's not a sexy enough story to lead the news with: the relatively small amount of casualities are. Don't forget, we occupied Germany and Japan for seven years and we still have troops there, more than 60 years after World War II ended.

And what have the Democrats contributed to the war effort since 9/11? Democrat Sen. Russ Feingold has suggested censuring our president; Former President and Vice President Bill Clinton and Al Gore, while visiting foreign countries, have blasted President Bush - acts of unconscionable irresponsibility; Democrat Rep. John Murtha, has invoked a cut-and-run policy in Iraq, supported by Democrat Senate Minority leader Harry Reid and Democrat House Minority leader Nancy Pelosi. Do they think the Middle East and the World would be safer if we had cut and run, as Murtha's plan wanted us to do? Under that plan, our troops would have been out of Iraq by May 18th and al-Zarqawi wouldn't be dead, but pulling the strings in an Iraqi civil war. With these kinds of ideas and behaviors, I just don't trust Democrats when it comes to our national security.

And so, as any reader of this article can well understand, it became impossible for me to relate to the modern Democrat Party which has tacked way too far to the left and is dominated by elites that don't like or trust the real people that make up most of the country.

Although I haven't always agreed with President Bush, I proudly voted for him in 2004 (the only one of the 4-winning Electoral College - elected Presidents to win re-election). And I now fully understand Ronald Reagan's statement, when he described why he switched from being a liberal to a conservative: "I didn't leave the party - It left me!"

Breaking news on fox, something about 500 chemical ammunition shells. Anyone want to weigh in on this? WMDS!!!?

Mark,
I want to thank you for your daily humorous posts,
they are fun to read. You said - "You'd think that it would make leftists change their minds - and a few do; but most are armored from ear to ear against anything contrary to leftwing ideology." Sounds like you are armored from ear to ear against anything contrary to rightwing ideology. Fortunately most people have an open mind and aren't extremists to either party, but more centered. Oh, and by the way the left hates President Bush because he's inept. I have to tell
you that many republicans feel the same about him.

WMD UPDATE:

Senator Rick Santoram just had a news conference where he stated that we have discovered in Iraq 500 shells filled with mustard and/or sarin nerve agent. He also stated that the intelligence indicates that there are manny more shells filled and unfilled, in Iraq yet to be found. Hopefully they will also inspect those 4 other sites in Iraq that David Gaubatz has been screaming from the rooftops about for several years.

Jeff,
You are being dishonest. No one hates another person because they are "inept," as you put it.

At its base, the left's hatred stems from Bush's willingness to confess that he is a Christian who prays for guidance and strength from above, who senses the hand of God with him as he wields American power, and whose personal morality coincides with a sense of justice for all human life--even unborn life--and a defense of marriage as God instituted it.

The left hates Bush because the left hates God. Ann Coulter is right. The left is godless. And it ridicules anyone who possesses faith, and who humbly recognizes his dependence on his Creator and Savior.

The left may have despised Reagan, but at least Nancy had astrologers in the White House and the First Couple never went to church. That's why you will find leftists declaring that they didn't even hate Reagan as much as they do Bush.

One reason and I would say the main reason that the left-wingers hates the President is because they are filled with satan, and any time there is any thing good happens satan cannot stand it!!

Well, I've got a message for the left!!

President George W. Bush is the BEST thing that has ever happened to this country!

He is a man of honor and diginity, who has the guts to stand up to the terrorist face to face and not back down!!

He is a man who protects and extends a helping hand to the innocent Iraqi men,women, and children from the clutches of terrorist's!!

He is a man who cares for his country!!

PRESIDENT BUSH! THANK YOU!!! FOR YOUR COURAGE! TO STEP UP TO THE PLATE!, AND THANK YOU! FOR A JOB WELL DONE!!!

A ROUND OF APPLAUSE!!! FOR PRESIDENT GEORGE W. BUSH THE GREATEST PRESIDENT EVER!!

Sincerely,

Jeremiah

Mark, if it is true that Bush is a Christian who possesses faith and humbly reconizes his dependence on his Creator and Savior, why would he start a war that has killed thousands of innocent lives? That just doesn't make sense. Ask yourself, what would Jesus do?

I've been told, when I asked Libs why they hate Bush so, that it is in retaliation for the hatred dumped upon Clinton.

Well, I have never understood that rationale. For one thing, it would be stupid even if we HAD hated Clinton. But the bigger point is, we DIDN'T "hate" Clinton.

Which brings us to a crucial point about Libs---their world view. To a Lib, it is arresting a man for a crime that makes him a criminal, not the fact that he broke the law. And so the attention paid to Clinton's wrongdoings was, to them, a personal attack, and an effort to show our loathing for him by "making" him a criminal.

True, this makes absolutely no sense to any rational person. But the only reason I have ever been given for the deep personal hatred directed toward Bush has been a "turn about's fair play" attitude. Yes, there have been claims of him being "inept" or "being AWOL" or the other silly claims the Left love so much. But they will admit that those are reasons to think a man is a bsd President but not a reason to hate him---the deep emotional despising of the man AS A MAN goes back to a feeling that this is what we all, as conservatives, DESERVE---to have our president hated as much as theirs was.

And they are simply constitutionally incapable of understanding that a desire to hold a man responsible for his actions is not the same as hating him. It is not the same as a personal attack. It is not the Politics of Personal Destruction. It is simply an objective desire to hold wrongdoers accountable.

So it is this "eye for an eye" mentality that allows the Left to indulge in its vile, vicious, inexcusable attacks. This is how they justify the lies----Bush DESERVES to be hated, because we "hated" Clinton, so whatever it takes to support that hatred is OK, whatever they say is justified even it it is not true.

And the thing is, I never met a conservative who "hated" Clinton. We were embarrassed by him, we thought he was a big phony, we were often offended by his excesses, but HATRED? No way.

I was, however, unhappy about his ability to skate away from countless documented involvements in illegal activities. Did I want an investigation into Whitewater because of an irrational personal loathing of a man I had never met? Of course not---that would be crazy. I did think it should be looked into because of the facts surrounding the situation, including the fact that of all those involved in Whitewater, the Clintons--partners from the onset of the company---were the only ones not found guilty of a crime. Personal? No. I am not a Liberal. I don't let my entire life be controlled by how I FEEL. It just seemed so obvious that this needed to be fully examined.

I agree that losing has played a large part in the Left's overblown All Hate, All The Time, approach to Bush and all that is Bush. They do not handle defeat well---an unusual trait for a party which pursues it so ardently. But my personal inquiries have shown the Left's weird slant on justice to be the root of the hatred hysteria---it's Payback Time. I've even heard Ranty Rhodes go on about this very thing, encouraging it, inciting it.

adriandrews

"The left hates Bush because the left hates God."
nope...it's your cult we hate and your trying to force it on others...God has nothing to do with it, or your cult for that matter...now go say some repetitive chants and light your incense

"And it ridicules anyone who possesses faith, and who humbly recognizes his dependence on his Creator and Savior."
Yes I will ridicule anyone who possesses faith in anything other then themselves...try standing up for yourself without hoping your imaginary friends will help...

Dependence on you Creator and savior...geeze, get a pair and stop being lazy...depend one yourself, are you that insecure you need a security cross to grab on to?

Jeremiah
"they are filled with satan"
um..ok, and adriandrews wonders why you get ridiculed...it has a lot to due with idiotic statements like "they are filled with satan"

Adriandrews

You think the left dislikes Bush because of his religion, do you?

Along with countless other reasons, the left dislikes Bush because of what he does in the name of his religion.

As with the Islamic fanatics, who use their religion for evil, Bush & his followers justify their unholy deeds under the cover of Christian values. Bush believes God is fighting with the Americans and the terrorists believe Allah is guiding their terrible agenda.

Religion in the political arena sucks.

Opus quote--
"Dependence on you Creator and savior...geeze, get a pair and stop being lazy...depend one yourself, are you that insecure you need a security cross to grab on to?"
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Opus,

Where are you going to go after you die?

Clinton's former spiritual advisor (ironic that he had one, isn't it?) once said a very poignant thing about mixing religion and politics on the Colbert Report...

Mixing religion and politics is like mixing ice cream and manure."

I don't "hate" the president; I may disagree with his policies, but I don't hate him.

That is the problem with the political extremes in this country. There is too much hate and not enough debate (oddly enough... that rhymes). The current political parties seem to care more about getting reelected than doing what is right for the country (timing for the Gay marriage ban/immigration reform... in an election year? hmmm...).

The places in which I find the most hate in today's political discourse are blogs (both right and left leaning) and talk radio (particularly right, but left too). You have Savage calling liberalism (an opinion) a mental disease, Sean Hannity calling liberalism "Evil", and Boortz is just Boortz (who I actually agree with about half of the time).

And here, when I point out that Bush increased spending by 42% and thusly is not "small government" or that a member of his administration has been convicted for incolvement with Abramoff, instead of people even acknowledging the increase in spending or the conviction, I get bombarded with the label of "moonbat" or "wingnut". It's rather amusing how much grown-ups debating politics really sounds more like children bickering on a playground (subsitute "poopy-pants" for "moonbat").

Let's debate the issues and leave the hate for our enemy, the terrorists.

Jeremiah and adriandrews,

You think we hate your Idiot-in-Cheif because were filled wiht satan and we hate God?!

Has anyone mentioned to you that you're both INSANE?

I hate the man cause he's

a. imcompetent

b. he hides behind the Cross for his immoral wars for profit

c. he doesn't give a shit about the security of Americans(see Dubai)and

d. he's in general, an evil and rotten human being

And if you honestly think thaose are makings of a Chirstian, then you are truly lost.

Opus,
You couldn't have illustrated better my point. Just let a person express Christian faith and out come the attacks. FYI, Christianity is never "forced" on others. You must be thinking of your jihadi buddies. I like your name, though..Latin for "work." You certainly are a piece of opus.

Canadian Observer..
Exactly. You and other secularists cannot tolerate his sense of faith and mission from God. So you create a moral equivalence between jihad and crusade, even though Bush's war is not to expand Christianity, only to expand freedom to practice Christianity or godlessness or whatever a person chooses. Jihad is a war to bring the world into submission to Allah and force conversion to Islam or dhimmitude. You Canadian hedonists ought to imagine what your life would be like under a Muslim theocracy.

It is very apparent from your statement that my initial point is valid. You hate Bush because of his Christian faith, which is not something "private" and "personal" but actually translates into actions. Show me a person who claims to be religious but who doesn't reflect their beliefs in their actions, and I will show you an irreligious hypocrite.

Teenage Liberal..
Unfortunately, you once again present too easy a target. Here is your argument in a nutshell: Christians are insane.
I tell you what...why don't you tell me what you perceive a "Christian" to be?

Three liberal postings, three anti-Christian comments. As we say in persuasive logic, QED.

War

Opus,
You couldn't have illustrated better my point. Just let a person express Christian faith and out come the attacks. FYI, Christianity is never "forced" on others. You must be thinking of your jihadi buddies. I like your name, though..Latin for "work." You certainly are a piece of opus.

Canadian Observer..
Exactly. You and other secularists cannot tolerate his sense of faith and mission from God. So you create a moral equivalence between jihad and crusade, even though Bush's war is not to expand Christianity, only to expand freedom to practice Christianity or godlessness or whatever a person chooses. Jihad is a war to bring the world into submission to Allah and force conversion to Islam or dhimmitude. You Canadian hedonists ought to imagine what your life would be like under a Muslim theocracy.

It is very apparent from your statement that my initial point is valid. You hate Bush because of his Christian faith, which is not something "private" and "personal" but actually translates into actions. Show me a person who claims to be religious but who doesn't reflect their beliefs in their actions, and I will show you an irreligious hypocrite.

Teenage Liberal..
Unfortunately, you once again present too easy a target. Here is your argument in a nutshell: Christians are insane.
I tell you what...why don't you tell me what you perceive a "Christian" to be?

Three liberal postings, three anti-Christian comments. As we say in persuasive logic, QED.

War

*Chuckles*

Anyone who reads my posts at all knows I'm not an overtly religious fellow and hence I don't instantly assign reasons to religion. One of those places I don't quite fit into the "Vast Right wing conspiracy" stereotype. Though I don't mind. ;)

I won't rule out the fact that Bush is an open believer as one reason why folks dislike him or react so strongly against him, but I doubt it's the only or the main reason. I think some of the reasons are that he's connected to oil, has suceeded even though he doesn't "talk right," and he says things too "simply." Too many folks dislike his "cut and dry" style and steadfastness. Saying he's arrogant or stupid or whatever you want to call him.

What's really got to irk them most is that he's not running again yet they keep running against him.

AdrianAndrews, You really didn't have to go to so much trouble to draw the moonbats out! They constantly prove irrational on a common issue such as religion & God! If you want to see a moonbats head spin off, just say something about God! LOL, I love it!

Jeremiah, good question!!! Opus, where are you going when you die! I always had a saying back in the day, before I committed my heart to Jesus! I'd rather believe a fairy tale that put's me in heaven after I die, than live my days thinking I'd come back as dirt, or a worm, or a donkey or something! No wonder liberals are always pissed off! Thank God he's a true reallity!

I hate teenage liberal because he's a girly-boy...

bearmanUSMC
"Thank God he's a true reality!"

Yes, a BIG AMEN to that brother!!!!

HE'S ALIVE, DEATH AND THE GRAVE COULD NOT HOLD HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AND WE AS CHRISTIAN'S ARE FORGIVEN!!

HEAVEN'S GATES ARE OPEN WIDE!!!

Jeremiah

same place you are, only I don't pretend that a fairy tale can tell me where that is...

adriandrews
"Christianity is never "forced" on others"
HA! then I'll never hear "War on chistmas" no more arguing about the ten commandments in public places, no more school prayer debate, no more abortion debate or gay marriage debate using religion as an argument, no more debate about ID in the schools etc etc etc...
Face it...your wrong, you know it, but you deny it...why is that?

bush is a liar who adopted the zionist foreign policy of violence and preemption. Nero will have bush to look up to as one of the worst leaders in history. Peace

Opus Quote--

"same place you are, only I don't pretend that a fairy tale can tell me where that is"
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Jesus said:

"but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because he has not believed in the name of God's one and only Son. This is the Verdict: Light has come into the world, but men loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that his deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what he has done has been done through God."

He also said:

"No man cometh unto the Father but by me"

So my next question is:

How are you going to get there?

How does openly celebrating Christmas, saying under God in the pledge, or allowing kids to pray in school voluntarilly force Christianity on anyone?

Folks have been doing all of those things around me for years and I haven't been forced to become a Christian.

When it comes to a party abandoning what it for decades said were its principles, you just can't beat today's Republicans.

Fiscal conservatism? Balanced budgets? No to nation building? No to imposing the federal government into the affairs of states, localities and even families? No to judicial activism?

Hah!

Barry Goldwater wouldn't recognize today's Republican Party, nor would he associate himself with it for five minutes.

As much as I disagreed with Goldwater about some matters of public policy, I recognize he had core principles and remained true to them. He was a politician who wanted to win, but not at any price, including selling out his principles.

Nowadays, Republicans are about anything to win. They'd sell their firstborns on eBay if they were convinced doing so would ensure victory in the next eleciton.

Jeremiah

If you believe that Bush is the BEST thing that has ever happened to your country then I must conclude that you are missing more than a few of your little grey cells.

Also, your religious rants are reminiscent of some backwoods lunatic preacher. Is Blogs for Bush a political site or is it a site for evangelist conversions?

Canadian Observer Quote--

"Is Blogs for Bush a political site or is it a site for evangelist conversions?"
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It seems that you Liberal's are the only ones that have a problem with religion.

Which is the problem with America today, You can't accept it, because you HATE the TRUTH!!

Jeremiah
He did? Actually whoever wrote the story ABOUT him said that...wake up and smell the reality..but hey, if you've given up and are only waiting to die, then what's the point of getting out of bed..I say get to where ever you think you going asap...line might be getting long, though I doubt it.

Gozer,
Celebrate Christmas all you want, just don't complain if Wal-Mart says happy holidays and not merry Christmas, but complain the Christians did, and will do this year...

Saying under God was from a Christian movement in the 50's...making a law to allow prayer in a public school is forcing one religion's practice on to others..

you're right, it has been around for years and because of that we now have a President who feels he's doing Gods work, we have the FDA making decisions on Christian ideals, we have scores of scientific research being halted because of Christians, he have schools wanting to teach fairy tales instead of science, again..etc...etc...etc

good for you for not being forced to become a Christian, just don't defend that which you don't know

Opus,

You never answered my question.whats wrong?

How are you going to get there?

Mark, while you may be correct that the left will never be elected in North America (the left never has), you may have noticed the amazing success socialist policies have had in South America in the last few years. Soon enough I think you will find all of South America will be socialist while North America is still struggling to make capitalism "work".

Jeremiah, as for your constant assertion that the "left hates religion", reality is the left wants religion to be left alone, sure you'll point to the USSR and China and claim the left hates religion, well reality is they were not left, of course like I've said to Mark, you are free to disprove me if you can (I'd love to see that).

Ah but Opus, it's in the Constitution that folks are allowed to practice any relgiion they want. Since I defend the constitution which defends the right to practice whatever religion you want or none at all I'm essentually defending every religion even ones I don't agree with.

That pesky first amendment also allows folks to complain about whatever the frack they want, including if WalMart says Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays. Just as much as it allows you to say that Christianity is stupid or not. Again, I defend both sides by allowing them to be said.

If you want "under God" out of the pledge then just do what they did in 50's as you said. They wanted it in there, the process went through, and the law was passed. Change the law and BAM no under God in the pledge. It's not that big a deal. Besides, again how is saying "under God" forcing anything on anyone? It doesn't make you believe in this "God Guy" nor does anyone force you to say the words "Under God." Hell when I was a kid I always just mouthed half the pledge anyway because I was bored. Folks are acting like the teachers are right behind every kid with a stick ready to wack them for not becoming Christians by saying Under God every day.

Just because I'm not a Christian doesn't mean I don't know anything about them. Nor does it mean I'm defending them because I am one. I take each item on it's own.

Opus,
No one forces the Christianity on anybody, although some of the folks in the Christian Community have forced their view of Scripture on others and you're right, that's very unfortunate.
But your true biblical Judeao living Christians have never forced any thing on anyone sir.
It's a strange thing though when I mention Christ to some that unfortunately hate to hear His name.
Christ came to save those that are lost, and indeed the world is lost in a sea of sinfulness and there had to be bloodshed for the forgiveness of that wrongdoing against the Creator of the Universe. So therefore Sir, you have fallen into the same dusty, grimy, filthiness that I found myself in years ago, but when I found Jesus Christ I invited him into my Heart, (Not necessarily my mind, because our mind can change in an instance) but when I truly accepted His Way, His Thinking, Because Jesus Christ is the Door to Heaven, Jesus Christ is the Way to God His Father. None can come to Jesus Christ without His Son.
But Christ Loves you and even those Who hate His Holy Name, those who spit upon Him and those who reviled Him, and those who hung him on an Old Rugged Cross Sir, He done that just for you.
Oh yes, you can make your reply with arbitrary thinking and unsoundness of words, but that does not change Gods love for you.
And I hope you can see this truth as so many millions upon millions of others have seen it and their day was glad and they rejoiced in it.
Many have gone on to see the Master and many are in His presence now, and I want to stay true to Him. I don't ever want to turn back on the one who laid down His life for me.
Awaken thou who sleepest, and awaken those that are in darkness.

There are three things President Bush had going against him from the get-go: he's a Christian and he doesn't mind saying so, he's an oilman, and he was born into a rich family ... three things the neorads absolutely hate.

Hatred is an emotion, and therefore, not always rational. Why would the rapper say "Bush hates black people" when he knows damn well, that just isn't true. Why would the left continually call him a Nazi or the new Hitler? One idiot even claimed Bush wanted America to be all white and Christian. Huh? That's news to me. Teenage Liberal says, "Bush is an evil and rotten human being". Really? Does he KNOW President Bush personally to form this opinion?

Saddam is an evil and rotten human being. He put live people down woodchippers. And, he said the lucky ones went head first. He cut tongues out when they disagreed with them. Entire families disappeared. He murdered his own people with mustard gas.

Hitler was an evil and rotten human being. He tried to wipe out all of the Jews by placing them in concentration camps and murdering 6 million of them.

OBL and his ilk are evil and rotten human beings. They want to kill everyone, including you TL, who do not follow their belief. They don't blink an eye while cutting off heads.

Those are evil and rotten human beings.

SWAnderson: And the Left don't want to "win"? They'd rather have America look bad than admit Saddam had WMD. Why? Not because they hate their country, but because they want to win.

Jeremiah,

where? unto the Father? is that what your asking, how will I get unto the Father? um...well...how about my church says, um...chew gum every day..there, that's how I'm going to get there...fairy tales Jeremiah...wake up

Ah but Gozer I not saying people can't practice any religion they want, I'm only ridiculing them for doing it..

I'm not saying people can't complain about the Merry Christmas greetings, I'm saying the fact that they do shows how threaten these people are if anyone goes against what they believe since it undermines there goal, to bring others into their little club.

Under God...Gozer people are trying to change that law, but thanks for the civics lesson...but you didn't address what was said, which was the law was put in place through a Christian movement...and that was just one example of how these people DO try to force their religion on the rest of us.

truthisright

how can you be so insecure...have faith in yourself..all you need is to know that you have the capacity to do the right thing always...if you're doing the right thing only due to fear or hope of damnation or salvation then you're only paying lipservice to yourself and to everyone else around you.
You don't need the approval or protection of anyone or anything other then yourself..

do the right thing, be nice to others, only fear the guilt of doing wrong...keep that in mind and forget about the fairy tales...

I have hope for you

Opus,
I rarely commend on these blogs, but I have found the necessity to make a comment hereforth.
It's unfortunate that the country is being so divided into two groups in our Nation.The Left or far left as some say and then the Right or Far Right.
As you may know a country that is divided will certainly fall. A house divided will certainly fall. In otherwords it's kind of like the oil being poured out onto the waters. You know what happens. And that's basic science, but it's a metafor of what's happening in our nation. I love this country and what it stood for. I love freedom and the right (as you have already posted)
Unfortunately there's been many college professors and your teachers of higher learning that have infilterated our colleges and universities and because of their ideological teaching have reaped on America in a slow form the socialist and communistic teachings they've been taught, since the early days of Stalin and Lenin. (Earthday has been celebrated in America on which day? April 22nd, 1970 by a man named Gaylord Nelson.
Guess what was imposed on Russia during that time,
they OUTLAWED the ownership of private property.
In June of this year it's going before the United Nations to try and ban weapons from the American people. Check out the NRAs website. They placed an article in the hunting magazines across America about this. It won't surprise many who is behind this act.
My main point here is that freedom as we know it is being taken away. I believe you have a right to believe, practice, do whatever you please as long as you don't do some act to cause hurt to another person.
But there's a law which this nation was founded upon and it doesn't matter what the former college pinheads have written and Published out there>
This constitution was based upon what we call a set of Moral Values.
That means that we have within every person in America (citizens) a moral duty to obey this constitution.
Our constitution has the 10 set of codes called the Bill of Rights. Your rights, my rights and others who wish to say what they want. Thank God for the right to (write) what I wish here. Pardon the pun.
There's some of the left groups in America that want this right taken away. Why? So they can gain the control and authority that have been pushed on the Communist countries and societies in the World.
When our right to freedom of speech is lost, then you will not have the control sir, over what you want to say in these posts. They will.
The liberal groups in America will tell you when to get up when to lie down, and if you own a cow sir they will let you milk the cow as long as you give them the milk, then they'll divide you a portion which they deem right and if you don't like it, just go tell someone. And then you will be silenced sir for telling someone your grip over why they took your right to own the cow, the right to milk the cow and I hope you understand my point.
Your rights are their rights, you have none. They're gone. ok,
Now you can argue wich this comment and you can post nasty articles and words, but that doesn't change reality. Because reality is real and America needs to wake up to this sense.
Freedom comes from what our forefathers understood and fought for. They sacrificed their livelihoods their fortunes and their sacred honors. And America cannot afford to have that taken away. But to be silent is what the liberal lefts want. They say whoever shouts the loudest will win.

Well that's true in effect, but there's a law that will supercede theirs, and even our own constitutional mandates and that's called the Word of God. His word will never change. It hasn't changed since the beginning of time and it will never. So I hope America as a whole will repent, turn back to the God who loves them and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, because he is the Way the Truth and the Life and no man comes to the father except through Him.
Thank you for your time. I hope America will listen wholeheartedly to what the scriptures say.

Opus,
I rarely commend on these blogs, but I have found the necessity to make a comment hereforth.
It's unfortunate that the country is being so divided into two groups in our Nation.The Left or far left as some say and then the Right or Far Right.
As you may know a country that is divided will certainly fall. A house divided will certainly fall. In otherwords it's kind of like the oil being poured out onto the waters. You know what happens. And that's basic science, but it's a metafor of what's happening in our nation. I love this country and what it stood for. I love freedom and the right (as you have already posted)
Unfortunately there's been many college professors and your teachers of higher learning that have infilterated our colleges and universities and because of their ideological teaching have reaped on America in a slow form the socialist and communistic teachings they've been taught, since the early days of Stalin and Lenin. (Earthday has been celebrated in America on which day? April 22nd, 1970 by a man named Gaylord Nelson.
Guess what was imposed on Russia during that time,
they OUTLAWED the ownership of private property.
In June of this year it's going before the United Nations to try and ban weapons from the American people. Check out the NRAs website. They placed an article in the hunting magazines across America about this. It won't surprise many who is behind this act.
My main point here is that freedom as we know it is being taken away. I believe you have a right to believe, practice, do whatever you please as long as you don't do some act to cause hurt to another person.
But there's a law which this nation was founded upon and it doesn't matter what the former college pinheads have written and Published out there>
This constitution was based upon what we call a set of Moral Values.
That means that we have within every person in America (citizens) a moral duty to obey this constitution.
Our constitution has the 10 set of codes called the Bill of Rights. Your rights, my rights and others who wish to say what they want. Thank God for the right to (write) what I wish here. Pardon the pun.
There's some of the left groups in America that want this right taken away. Why? So they can gain the control and authority that have been pushed on the Communist countries and societies in the World.
When our right to freedom of speech is lost, then you will not have the control sir, over what you want to say in these posts. They will.
The liberal groups in America will tell you when to get up when to lie down, and if you own a cow sir they will let you milk the cow as long as you give them the milk, then they'll divide you a portion which they deem right and if you don't like it, just go tell someone. And then you will be silenced sir for telling someone your grip over why they took your right to own the cow, the right to milk the cow and I hope you understand my point.
Your rights are their rights, you have none. They're gone. ok,
Now you can argue wich this comment and you can post nasty articles and words, but that doesn't change reality. Because reality is real and America needs to wake up to this sense.
Freedom comes from what our forefathers understood and fought for. They sacrificed their livelihoods their fortunes and their sacred honors. And America cannot afford to have that taken away. But to be silent is what the liberal lefts want. They say whoever shouts the loudest will win.

Well that's true in effect, but there's a law that will supercede theirs, and even our own constitutional mandates and that's called the Word of God. His word will never change. It hasn't changed since the beginning of time and it will never. So I hope America as a whole will repent, turn back to the God who loves them and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior, because he is the Way the Truth and the Life and no man comes to the father except through Him.
Thank you for your time. I hope America will listen wholeheartedly to what the scriptures say.

Insecure Opus, my friend the faith I have is not in myself. In myself I am nothing, I have no strength, but I can tell you this "I can do all things through Christ which strengenth me."
That's the one I put my faith in.
I feel sorry that you feel the way you do, but I'll pray that You will find a repentant heart and let Jesus come into your life.
"Whosoever calleth upon the name of the Lord, What? Shall be saved. Romans (the Roman Road)

Opus Quote--

"where? unto the Father? is that what your asking, how will I get unto the Father? um...well...how about my church says, um...chew gum every day..there, that's how I'm going to get there...fairy tales Jeremiah...wake up"
__________________________________________________

chew gum is that it? How sad

Then God will say to you:

"depart from me you evil doer for I never knew you"

Jesus could return tonight or tomorrow no one knows for sure, not even the angels know in heaven, it's all up to Him ,His time and His place to decide when He returns, and if you are not ready then you will suffer........

So please.......

Please wake up opus! before it's too late!!

Ahhh, I love wednesday night services! They are such a great mid-week refresher! Singing & Dancing before God has a way of bringing you out of the city of "ME" and into the family of God! You don't know what your missing Opus! Course, from your own lips you've admitted your LOVE is the city of "ME". How sad!

There is no "rational" reason for the left to hate Bush. Read the lefty-wacko posts here to see that. They hate ALL Republicans. They hate the fact that they don't control ANY of the three branches of our government. They hate that. The fact that they don't have the power to impose their squirlly wacko views on us.

In a recent string, it took TEO days and days to renounce violence against Republicans. Axis and most (all?) of the other lefty-wackos never did renounce it.

kimberly4bush wrote:

"There are three things President Bush had going against him from the get-go: he's a Christian and he doesn't mind saying so, he's an oilman, and he was born into a rich family ... three things the neorads absolutely hate."

Based on his record, I have trouble honoring Bush's onstentatious devotion to Christian faith. As a child, I was taught Christian is as Christian does. Bush routinely runs afoul of the commandment against bearing false witness. And when it comes to lifting up the least among us, he deliberately and defiantly gets it backwards every time.

As for Bush being an oilman, again, what kind of oilman he is makes all the difference. If you'll look into his time as a trustee of Harken Oil, when he was head of the trustees' audit committee, Bush had a responsibility to look out for the interest of investors in the company other than just himself.

The record shows Bush had, and used, his insider knowledge of the company's financial situation to quickly and quietly sell his own Harken stock just when Harken stock was well up and just before news of the company's shaky finances became public. Bush thus made several million dollars, while his fellow stockholders whose interests he was supposed to help safeguard were stuck with substantial losses.

So, we see that as an oilman, Bush is a J.R. Ewing kind of guy. And yes, like that fictional protagonist from the old "Dallas" series, Bush comes from a wealthy family. Speaking for myself,I don't hold that against him. After all, he can choose his friends like Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff and Karl Rove, but not his family.

*Chuckles*

Sorry if I sounded like I was teaching or anything, I'm just pointing out it's not that hard to change.

As for why it got put there in the first place it's my understanding they wanted it put in there to make us different from the Communists because a majority of the people in America believed in a God. That's always what I thought.

And again you've ignored my point in the fact that saying "Under God" does jack and sheet to you. They're just two words that don't even have to be said. Heck if you like making fun of Christians I'm sure you could insert something else there just for you no biggy.

As someone who enjoys making fun of Christians what does saying "Under God" do to you? Absolutely nothing! It's not indoctrinating you, they're just words and a reminder that there are those silly enough to believe in a nebulous "God" being. What's the harm in that?

My point is, sure they put it in there. If folks want it gone they can take it out. Are they trying to defend or expand their influence? Sure, but so are secularists, Jews, Budhists, and anyone else involved in swaying people. No one has the high ground in that field. I hope you can agree with me on that at least.

Opus,

We're you supposed to define "nice" for me? After all, if my duty is to be nice, shouldn't there be a universal definition of what is nice? I mean, everyone should agree on what is nice, right? If they don't, then what do we do?

Oh, and if you really wish to rely on yourself, then please strip naked and go out in to the woods with no items that weren't made - in their entirety - by your efforts.

Let us know how you like standing on your own, ok?

I suppose one could make a case that I "hate" Bush, but that seems to be really beside the point.

To start with, the statement (it's not an argument) is made over and over that the left hates Bush as if we just don't like his looks. I don't like Bush because of specific policy decisions he's made; the war in Iraq, disregard for civil liberties, use of torture on prisoners, etc. I didn't just wake up hating him one day. He earned it. None of the silly reasons offered by the posters here are involved at all, leastwise the religious strawman.

Kahn comes closest to a valid reason when s/he says "they hate the fact that they don't control ANY of the three branches of our government" (the rest of that post is nonsense, however). That's certainly true, although I will add that I'm not fond of either party controlling all the levers of government. The country seems to do better when the Democrats control either the Congressional or Executive branch. The system is checks and balances, and we don't have that right now. We wouldn't have if the Democrats controlled everything either.

Most of the posts in this thread on both sides are just name calling, which appears to be a stand in for actual debate.

Jon,

Do YOU renounce violence against Republicans?

truthisright
-and you proved the point:
"I hope America as a whole will repent, turn back to the God who loves them and accept Jesus Christ as their Savior"
Of course that's what you hope for and what many Christians are fighting for..to make this a Christian Nation...

Gozer,
sure it can be changed...point was it was put there in the first place

bearmanUSMC
You don't know what your missing Opus!
Ditto bearman...when you are pigeonholed into only one way of thought like you are it's impossible to know what it's like to have fee thoughts and expression...

Mark,
I gave you an answer the other day, but you know what? I realized that was only how I define nice. You can't have a universal definition of nice because like it or not we are all individuals who need to make our own decisions...if you don't know what nice is, or what is right or wrong then as an adult it time to re-examine your life...If there was a universal definition then we'd loose our individuality, we'd all be mindless sacks of meat waiting to die...there would be no creativity, no free expression, no discovery...we'd all be...Christians.

"if you really wish to rely on yourself, then please strip naked and go out in to the woods with no items that weren't made - in their entirety - by your efforts."
See Mark, I don't need a shoe maker to tell me how to live my life, but I have no problem wearing his shoes...But I can rely on myself to decide what shoes to buy, who to buy them from and how to wear them, I don't need the approval of an imaginary friend for that.

And standing on my own is GREAT...I have free thought, free expresion, I'm living and not waiting to die...try it sometime....but you'd better ask your pastor/priest, whatever, for permission first

OK - I understand your hatred noow. Crazy person.

Do you renounce violence against Republicans Opus?

Do YOU renounce violence against Republicans?

I'm not in favor of violence against anyone, although some situations may call for it. That said, I have no idea what you're talking about. I don't drive around on Saturday night looking for a couple of disgusting Republicans coming out of a Republican bar so I can kill them and crucify them on a fence, if that's what you mean.

Jon parker nails it about the hate-Bush charge. It's a copout intended to shift the focus away from Bush, his incompetence, arrogance and dishonesty, his bad ideas and lousy results, and on to his critics. That's because people generally dislike haters, so if anyone who tells unwelcomes truths about Bush can just be branded a hater, they and their criticisms can be neutralized and written off, or so the thinking goes.

The trouble is, past some point, even people who normally are disinterested in politics and not kindly disposed toward any politicians, along with some erstwhile Bush supporters, reach a point where they begin the realize the "Bush hater" criticisms aren't just bashing — they're true.

It's at this point Bush's poll numbers go down and down, and down. And stay down, for almost a year now.

A great Republican said it best: "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time."

I'll give Karl Rove credit, though, for coming closer to proving Abe Lincoln wrong than anyone I've ever seen.

Opus, You and your two buddies there uh, S.W. Anderson and Jon Parker there...

You guys must of uh came from the school of hard knocks.I understand the three (3) stooges graduated there.

Yeah they taught a lot there!!Haaaaaaahahahahaha.

L.O.L :)

Jerry,

Don't you have a village of non-believers to convert or something?

Kahn what are you talking about? Did I miss something, has there been a rash of Republican beatings or something?
sure Kahn, I renouce what ever you're talking about...

Jeremiah,
I see, anyone not in your little make believe club must be a stooge...How Chrisian of you

"The fool hath said in his heart there is no God"

Can somebody bring Teenage Liberal back on? I love seeing the mind of a child at work.

TL:"i hate Bush."

Anybody: "why?"

TL: "Just cuz!"

priceless.

Jeremiah

Matthew 5:22
"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"

it's gonna be warm...I'd bring shorts if I were you

Jeremiah

Matthew 5:22
"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"

it's gonna be warm...I'd bring shorts if I were you

Jeremiah

Matthew 5:22
"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire"

it's gonna be warm...I'd bring shorts if I were you

Opus,

If you can't create a universal definition of "nice" then your whole worldview is in a cocked hat - you immediately, then, have to say that nice is whatever anyone says it is (including the guy who lives next door to you who asserts that "nice" is playing his stereo full blast at 2am), or you have to refer to the extra-human standard of nice - ie, God. And once you let God in, you're stuck...you have to figure on His being able to reveal himself to you, and that therefore there must be a set of documents which are more true about God than any other and before too long you are a member of an organized religion.

Either that, or you're just blowing smoke about being an independent thinker because it makes you feel good about yourself to say that while you slavishly follow whatever is the conventional wisdom of the day...

Opus quote--

"Matthew 5:22
"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire""
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Insecure Opus, It's good to see that you have actually picked the bible up and are reading some of it!!

But I would like to correct you on that particular verse that you have quoted therein.

That particular verse is talking specifically to your brother! Who? Yes, your brother in christ/fellow christian brothers.ok

Example:
If I would say when I go to church sunday and walk in the door and someone was talking there about something like the last supper and I disagreed and was not familiar with that particular Holy event and I had no clue to the message, and said to my brother john doe, hey john that's not right what a fool your are? then I would be condemning my brother in christ for something that I had no clue about.ok

and to further prove my point............

Now! Do you consider me, Jeremiah, your brother opus? I don't know.But I have to correct you if you claim otherwise......

Do I consider You Opus my brother? Well, It's very apparent as you have already stated that you Opus DO NOT believe in God, You consider Him to be a fairytale right?, if I recall correctly. So if that is the case that indeed you Opus do not believe in God the one and only true God the Father of Jesus the one who died and shed His innocent blood Just for you Opus, Then NO I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU MY BROTHER!!!

I want you to know something mr.opus!!

You think you are something! don't you!!

well, I'll tell you, I have forgotten most everything I know from what you have already learned MR.Wits!!..............

Yeah, You know everything with all your cowardly misconceptions of the scriptures, you are using the precious holy scriptures to cut people to pieces rather than instruct them about the true love and compassion that God loves you, because you are beyond lukewarm you are COLD! and I mean your heart is hardened to the point of No return!! and there is No! need in you trying to hide because the truth has already been laid bare before the sight of the Almighty, He see's and He knows every action and thought that is going through YOUR demonistic mind there, It's unfortunate though to YOUR surprise that when YOU want an answer from God, He plainly says Yes or No there is NO MAYBE'S IN GOD'S EYE'S, You either believe in Him or You Don't, So there's no need in hiding behind the scripture's just when YOU need them, My suggestion to YOU would be to read the book of James and you'll find THAT YOU need to get started on the road to a better life, the FIRE AND BRIMSTONE that YOU Opus TRULY NEED!

So YOU don't need to tell ME anything OK!, insecure opus, because you are a fence runner, a cop-out, a COWARD a LYER WITH THE GALL TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO GOD! YOU HAVE REALLY ANGERED AND SADDENED ME!!!

and if I could reach through this computer I would grab you by the neck, AND SHAKE SOME OF THOSE DEMONS OUT OF YOU, AND PUT SOME OF THE HOLY WRIT IN THAT EMPTY SKULL OF YOURS.............

JUST LOOK UP^ AND YOU'LL FIND ALL YOU NEED!!

and I am going to quit educating you because you already know what good is but you just willingly choose to do the wrong thing.....Jesus said for those that know to do good and doeth it not to him it is sin................and when you willingly do WRONG then you WILLINGLY GO AGAINST GOD YOUR CREATOR!

AND FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND FEED AN EVIL MIND SUCH AS YOURS WOULD BE DANGEROUS, BECAUSE YOU ARE A DANGEROUS FOOLISH PERSON, AND BECAUSE YOU ARE FILLED WITH DEMONS.

I'll pray in earnest, for you Opus!!

Jeremiah

Opus quote--

"Matthew 5:22
"whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire""
__________________________________________________

Insecure Opus, It's good to see that you have actually picked the bible up and are reading some of it!!

But I would like to correct you on that particular verse that you have quoted therein.

That particular verse is talking specifically to your brother! Who? Yes, your brother in christ/fellow christian brothers.ok

Example:
If I would say when I go to church sunday and walk in the door and someone was talking there about something like the last supper and I disagreed and was not familiar with that particular Holy event and I had no clue to the message, and said to my brother john doe, hey john that's not right what a fool your are? then I would be condemning my brother in christ for something that I had no clue about.ok

and to further prove my point............

Now! Do you consider me, Jeremiah, your brother opus? I don't know.But I have to correct you if you claim otherwise......

Do I consider You Opus my brother? Well, It's very apparent as you have already stated that you Opus DO NOT believe in God, You consider Him to be a fairytale right?, if I recall correctly. So if that is the case that indeed you Opus do not believe in God the one and only true God the Father of Jesus the one who died and shed His innocent blood Just for you Opus, Then NO I DO NOT CONSIDER YOU MY BROTHER!!!

I want you to know something mr.opus!!

You think you are something! don't you!!

well, I'll tell you, I have forgotten most everything I know from what you have already learned MR.Wits!!..............

Yeah, You know everything with all your cowardly misconceptions of the scriptures, you are using the precious holy scriptures to cut people to pieces rather than instruct them about the true love and compassion that God loves you, because you are beyond lukewarm you are COLD! and I mean your heart is hardened to the point of No return!! and there is No! need in you trying to hide because the truth has already been laid bare before the sight of the Almighty, He see's and He knows every action and thought that is going through YOUR demonistic mind there, It's unfortunate though to YOUR surprise that when YOU want an answer from God, He plainly says Yes or No there is NO MAYBE'S IN GOD'S EYE'S, You either believe in Him or You Don't, So there's no need in hiding behind the scripture's just when YOU need them, My suggestion to YOU would be to read the book of James and you'll find THAT YOU need to get started on the road to a better life, the FIRE AND BRIMSTONE that YOU Opus TRULY NEED!

So YOU don't need to tell ME anything OK!, insecure opus, because you are a fence runner, a cop-out, a COWARD a LYER WITH THE GALL TO SAY THAT THERE IS NO GOD! YOU HAVE REALLY ANGERED AND SADDENED ME!!!

and if I could reach through this computer I would grab you by the neck, AND SHAKE SOME OF THOSE DEMONS OUT OF YOU, AND PUT SOME OF THE HOLY WRIT IN THAT EMPTY SKULL OF YOURS.............

JUST LOOK UP^ AND YOU'LL FIND ALL YOU NEED!!

and I am going to quit educating you because you already know what good is but you just willingly choose to do the wrong thing.....Jesus said for those that know to do good and doeth it not to him it is sin................and when you willingly do WRONG then you WILLINGLY GO AGAINST GOD YOUR CREATOR!

AND FOR ME TO SIT HERE AND FEED AN EVIL MIND SUCH AS YOURS WOULD BE DANGEROUS, BECAUSE YOU ARE A DANGEROUS FOOLISH PERSON, AND BECAUSE YOU ARE FILLED WITH DEMONS.

I'll pray in earnest, for you Opus!!

Jeremiah

Mark,
of course "nice" is whatever anyone thinks it is...that's called individualism..something you obviously are threatened by..people were both nice and not nice to each other long before Christ and long before Bible....

Is it that you feel everyone is mean to begin with and that only by joining your club can the learn to be nice?

Jeremiah
wow Jeremiah, are you feeling threatened?...you're throwing around some pretty un-Christian statements for someone who says they're secure with their beliefs...
not only are you insecure, but arrogant...when did I say I don't believe in God? I'm a coward because I can think for myself and not as a Priest how I should live...I'm a coward for being free to ask questions and try to gain knowledge with out someone telling me that's evil...ever time you post you only prove my points about Christians...insecure, afraid of the reality, threatened by anything that doesn't agree with you..

Don't worry Jeremiah, I have hope for you yet, just remember to believe in yourself and we'll get through this...together