This should put the fear in any successor. They better keep it secret who the leader is or else he will be toast too.

has also reached thermal equilibrium

LMAO!!

Just in case you missed it: (A small time Administration official was convicted...meanwhile, Congressman William Jefferson, D-LA was found to have $90,000.00 in cash in his freezer...and have we mentioned the major home builder in Las Vegas who copped to making illegal donations to Harry Reid? - Posted edited because we can...you wanna go off topic?)

On to the topic:

Just goes to show you what our guys in green can do... happy hunting boys...

In case YOU missed it, Georgia Frawg, this is Blogs FOR Bush. I'm sure you can discuss that news story on one of your favorite Bush bashing blogs.

And on to the topic:

It's too bad we can't follow the Golden Rule when we capture one of these murdering scumballs.

Great news.

Georgia...."republican influence peddler"...did the AP really say this or are those your words. Considering Harry Reid's involvement and other Democrats I'd love to know if you are joking or if the AP really said this in their typical AP BIAS rants

I just checked, that is what the AP wrote...talk about total bias in their article....what a joke as usual.

This is good news. The boys are on roll. Keep it coming.

I hope it is true. It is hard to believe anything out of this administration:

Bush (4/9/02), “The other day we hauled in a guy named Abu Zubaydah. He's one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States. He's not plotting and planning anymore. He's where he belongs.”

“Abu Zubaydah, his captors discovered, turned out to be mentally ill and nothing like the pivotal figure they supposed him to be. CIA and FBI analysts, poring over a diary he kept for more than a decade, found entries "in the voice of three people: Hani 1, Hani 2, and Hani 3" -- a boy, a young man and a middle-aged alter ego. All three recorded in numbing detail "what people ate, or wore, or trifling things they said." Dan Coleman, then the FBI's top al-Qaeda analyst, told a senior bureau official, "This guy is insane, certifiable, split personality."

“..That judgment was "echoed at the top of CIA and was, of course, briefed to the President and Vice President," Suskind writes. And yet somehow, in a speech delivered two weeks later (4/9/02), President Bush portrayed Abu Zubaydah as "one of the top operatives plotting and planning death and destruction on the United States."…”

Georgia Fraud,

What no comment on Reid and other Traitorcrats' dealing with Abramoff? Hypocrisy got you by the throat? You dirtbag.

Barney....you're going back to 2002 for quotes....outstanding. The credibility just shines all day long with you.

Aw shucks, barney. Thought we would ALL be on board for this one. But I spoke too soon.

Georgia...cat bite your tongue?

By the way, he wasn't a "Bush Aide" either as the AP reports. He was a Federal Bureaucrat that worked for the GSA. The GSA is part of the Executive Branch, but please to suggest he was a Bush Aide is another liberal hit piece.

I've emailed the AP writer Peter Yost. Disgusting liberal media bias AGAIN!

"By the way, he wasn't a "Bush Aide" either as the AP reports. He was a Federal Bureaucrat that worked for the GSA. The GSA is part of the Executive Branch, but please to suggest he was a Bush Aide is another liberal hit piece." Posted by War

David Hossein Safavian was nominated by President George W. Bush as Administrator, Office of Federal Procurement Policy Office of Management and Budget (OMB) on January 22, 2004.

War, AP must have been thinking about Claude Allen, bush’s domestic policy aid. That was the guy who got bust for shoplifting.

So, Safavian (the crook) was appointed by bush and the shoplifter was bush’s aid. I’ll send this to the AP on your behalf.

That is correct Barney as are most BUREAUCRATS...BUREAUCRATS are nominated by the President or other bureaucrats. That's why they're called Politicial appointments.

Did you skip civics class in high school?

Do you realize how many bureaucrats are appointed by a President during each term? Care to wager a guess?

War, it was still the "decider’s" decision. Why did bush nominate a person with so little experience, capability or moral character? Why did he hire someone that is a petty thief?

Barney said: "Why did bush nominate a person with so little experience, capability or moral character? Why did he hire someone that is a petty thief?"

It's a very large government, Barney. And getting bigger all the time. You can't really expect Bush to follow all his appointments around 24/7. However, it does seem more reasonable to hold those who recommend these guys to some sort of accountability. I don't know who recommended Allen (though Karl Rove probably played a significant part), but I have a pretty fair idea who recommended Safavian -- he being a former top aide to Tom DeLay and all.

Barney and Frawg, I really don't think you want to play the indictment game, particularly on a thread where it isn't relevant.

Please talk about dead terrorists - or those who might soon be dead; back on topic, boys and girls.

Yes yes, let's talk about more folks "Assuming Room Temperature" for their causing so many innocent people to do the same.

Way to go guys! Keep up the good work!

Mmmmm...dead terrorists. Did they read him his rights?

"Way to go guys! Keep up the good work!"

Gozer -- Can you name even ONE war for a good cause in which innocents DIDN'T die? Or do you perhaps oppose ALL wars? If so, would you have opposed the U.S. Civil War? And if so, does this mean you favor Southern secession and slavery? If war is necessary to terminate Islamic terrorism and middle eastern dictatorship, do you oppose it?

Hmm? Someone actually responding to me? I'm amazed! Yay!

Odd set of questions you've aimed my way but sure I'll answer them.

First off, nope. Not a single war has failed to kill innocents. Though I know darn well that we try our best to avoid shooting innocents unlike the aformentioned room dead dude.

I don't oppose wars, where did you get that idea?

I wish we didn't have to have a civil war but I am glad it's over. At least the first one, who knows if we'll ever have another. *Shrugs*

I'm not really opposed to Southern secession if they had a good reason. Though right now I don't think they do. I don't believe I have ever said I was for slavery.

Nope. I'm fully behind this war to stop the Islamic extremists. You seem to have me confused with someone else.

Let me explain my first post. "Yes yes, let's talk about more folks "Assuming Room Temperature" for their causing so many innocent people to do the same."

Mark just told us to talk about the original topic. So I did and that is the death of one terrorist who was behind the deaths of innocent folks. Ergo the assuming of room temperature comment and the call for more terrorists to die.

You don't happen to work down at JPL do ya JPL? 'Cause I work up at Goldstone. :)

I'm waiting for the loony left to start 'splaining that this is just one terrorist, don't matter a whit, just a figurehead, will be replaced soon, was a liability to the 'insurgents' so we really did them a favor by killing him, was a secret CIA plant killed by the terrorists when they found out, killing him will just make then stronger, blah blah blah blah blah.
But not a victory. No sir, definitely not a victory. Probably a bad thing.

On the OTHER hand (the left hand---the unclean one the Arabs use only for....never mind) if Bush would just get OSAMA, the war would be over. Would have been over before it started. Not "getting" Osama the biggest blunder in the history of warfare. This man is the key to it all.

Wow... it seemed to me that the news story should at least be acknowledged by B4B; I didn't realize that the conservatives on this site would go in to full "Democrats do it to!" attack-mode.

It's great... I copy paste a news article about someone getting convicted, and my integrity is assaulted because I didn't mention corrput democrats. People seem to forget that I hate Democrats almost as much (but not quite as much) as I hate Republicans (though there are individuals that I respect). The two party system is failing America.

Anyways, it is truly sad when someone gets pounced on for pointing out that someone got convicted of something...

Georgia...we killed another very bad guy. It's ok, you can be happy about it. Or did your side just lose a guy in this fight?

Mark,

Speaking of Iraq, why don't you have a article about the execution of those 2 kidnapped soldiers? Don't want to rain bad news on your "good news week"? Sweep the embarassing things under the carpet and hope they go away huh?

Aren't you glad that you are ok with the U.S. torturing prisoners? Now the terrorists took a play from your playbook and are kidnapping troops, torturing them and executing them. Theres likely to be more of this coming. The blood of any tortured troops is on Republican hands.

I'm waiting for the loony left to start 'splaining that this is just one terrorist, don't matter a whit, just a figurehead, will be replaced soon,

-- Gotta expand your current events sources beyond FOX news. He has already been replaced, we all have a new Boogyman now and its rumoured that there will be less Iraqi deaths and more US Troops killed because of it.

"... US military has said that Egyptian militant Ayyub al-Masri is 'probably' Zarqawi`s replacement"

Oi Oi Axis how can you in good concience compair anything we've done to our prisoners to what the terrorists have done to those two soldiers? Honestly, have we maimed anyone? Killed them? Decapitated them? Have we?

Axis. We don't do that - and you know it. Thanks for showing us how much YOU hate us. I remember that you never renounced violence against Republicans - now you're laughing about two brave Americans getting tortured and killed. And you say they/we deserved it. F@#k Y*U

Kahn,

You never did what? Torture? Of course you did. Abu Gharaib, Bagram, Guantanamo, torture is commonplace these days. Everyone knows it, they just don't want to admit it. Rumsfeld condones it by writing torture memos to the prison wardens, Gonzalez legalizes it. Torture is a good thing...to the Bush administration.

I am not laughing at anything, believe me, nor do I hate America, I am simply saying that if you were not up in arms when you found out that the US was torturing prisoners and rendering them to foreign countries to be tortured and murdered, then how can you possibly be upset that the terrorists are doing the exact same thing that the US STARTED.??? Do you have any idea how STUPID that makes you look?

I don't agree with any of it, but I do know that the dirty stuff you are doing to prisoners will and is coming back to smack you right in the face.

Axis. We don't do that - and you know it. Thanks for showing us how much YOU hate us. I remember that you never renounced violence against Republicans - now you're laughing about two brave Americans getting tortured and killed. And you say they/we deserved it. F@#k Y*U

Kahn,

You never did what? Torture? Of course you did. Abu Gharaib, Bagram, Guantanamo, torture is commonplace these days. Everyone knows it, they just don't want to admit it. Rumsfeld condones it by writing torture memos to the prison wardens, Gonzalez legalizes it. Torture is a good thing...to the Bush administration.

I am not laughing at anything, believe me, nor do I hate America, I am simply saying that if you were not up in arms when you found out that the US was torturing prisoners and rendering them to foreign countries to be tortured and murdered, then how can you possibly be upset that the terrorists are doing the exact same thing that the US STARTED.??? Do you have any idea how STUPID that makes you look?

I don't agree with any of it, but I do know that the dirty stuff you are doing to prisoners will and is coming back to smack you right in the face.

Axis. We don't do that - and you know it. Thanks for showing us how much YOU hate us. I remember that you never renounced violence against Republicans - now you're laughing about two brave Americans getting tortured and killed. And you say they/we deserved it. F@#k Y*U

Axis how can you in good concience compair anything we've done to our prisoners to what the terrorists have done to those two soldiers? Honestly, have we maimed anyone? Killed them? Decapitated them? Have we?

-- Sure you have. Maybe not decapitated them, tortured them, maimed them, rendered them to Egypt and Syria knowing they will likely be tortured and murdered.

We liberals told you to knock it off a long time ago, because we told you that the soldiers in the field would pay for it and now that prediction is coming true.

And you that supported or were ok with the torture policies only have yourselves to blame.

War, it was still the "decider’s" decision. Why did bush nominate a person with so little experience, capability or moral character? Why did he hire someone that is a petty thief?

Posted by: Barneyg2000 at June 20, 2006 06:22 PM

Wow Barney, Judge, Jury, & Executioner all wrapped up in one! Can you please help us hunt down terrorist and Dictators, it would probably wipe out the deficit if you did!

Guys, Axis live in his own little bubble world, and in that world eveything America is Bad........so very Bad! Let him dream, it's all he has!

Masri, here we come, we are coming for you babe! Hope you've said your prayers and pre-pared your heart, it's seventy fat, ugly, old virgins for you pal!

Gozer, JPL misread you.....again! No worries, we know where you stand!

"Aren't you glad that you are ok with the U.S. torturing prisoners? Now the terrorists took a play from your playbook and are kidnapping troops, torturing them and executing them. Theres likely to be more of this coming. The blood of any tortured troops is on Republican hands."

Axis, while you have never had any credibility, your post shows your true colors. You truly have no clue and are an ignorant person.

While I do not write much, I will never respond to any of your post going forward, as you do not deserve one minute of my time.

You are one of those people who wants to always sit at the table, but thinks he is too good to put his time in the kitchen. I can tell by your posts that you have never served time in the military or done anything to serve others. Again, you are a truly ignorant person.

-Govitman

God Bless the Corps and God bless all our men and women serving to secure freedom and democracy around the world.

and...GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA!!!

Axis - I reject your definitions of torture. You are an ignorant child who does NOT understand what real torture is. And - you are laughing at the REAL torture and mutilation and deaths of two Americans. Again, go to hell.

-- Of course you do, you are a sick, sadistic freak just like the rest that think torture means causing death or organ failure like Gonzalez redefined it.

Electrical shocks, waterboarding, pulling off peoples fingernails, cutting off fingers, threatening with vicious dogs an inch from your face, sodomy, its all good to you. You like it, it turns you on when you hear about prisoners getting sodomized doesn't it? It has the same effect on Rumsfeld.

Just remember though, you REAP what you SOW and you are sowing some really bad seed right now and so you should be prepared to see the terrorists doing the same thing to the troops.

Axis - I reject your definitions of torture. You are an ignorant child who does NOT understand what real torture is. And - you are laughing at the REAL torture and mutilation and deaths of two Americans. Again, go to hell.

-- Of course you do, you are a sick, sadistic freak just like the rest that think torture means causing death or organ failure like Gonzalez redefined it.

Electrical shocks, waterboarding, pulling off peoples fingernails, cutting off fingers, threatening with vicious dogs an inch from your face, sodomy, its all good to you. You like it, it turns you on when you hear about prisoners getting sodomized doesn't it? It has the same effect on Rumsfeld.

Just remember though, you REAP what you SOW and you are sowing some really bad seed right now and so you should be prepared to see the terrorists doing the same thing to the troops.

Axis - I reject your definitions of torture. You are an ignorant child who does NOT understand what real torture is. And - you are laughing at the REAL torture and mutilation and deaths of two Americans. Again, go to hell.

axis,

Your pathetic posts actually make me sick!

RE: "You never did what? Torture? Of course you did. Abu Gharaib, Bagram, Guantanamo, torture is commonplace these days. Everyone knows it, they just don't want to admit it. Rumsfeld condones it by writing torture memos to the prison wardens, Gonzalez legalizes it. Torture is a good thing...to the Bush administration."

Of course the do, axis! You've told them that over and over. Of course people throughout the world -- especially terrorists and would be recruits "know that Americans torture people -- just like Saddam Hussein and his two sadistic and barbaric sons. Of course they believe that, axis, you and your anti-American liberals friends tell them so every time you get a chance, and the liberal media spread your brainwashing, hate filled, anti-American propaganda throughout the world.

From what the news reports are saying, the terrorists really did a JOB on our two kidnapped troops. Apparently it was so barbaric that even the liberal news hasn't reported the details -- yet! Some reports say their bodies were mutilated in an utterly barbaric -- and to most Americans an unimaginable manner -- while they were alive as well as after they finally died. Some reports said their bodies were burned, but didn't say how much of that was done while they were still alive.

Apparently their bodies were so mutilated and abused that it will require a DNA test to determine if those are in fact our two kidnapped soldiers. We may never know how much they were carved on, burned, mutilated, and abused our soldiers before they finally died. I can only imagine the horror and pain or two kidnapped soldiers suffered at the hands of the terrorists. And our troops are not alone. The terrorists do the same to Iraqi citizens every day.

Then, axis, you and your far left liberal friends have the unmitigated gall and nerve to compare the acts of some American troops with those of the terrorists. You want the world to equate the barbaric TORTURE performed on our troops and other Iraqis while they were still alive with what happened at Abu Ghraib. You want the terrorist to believe that and give our troops what they deserve -- the same torture you have convinced the rest of the world that Americans "perform" on our prisoners!

In your mind and the minds of the terrorists, the terrorists were only "giving our American troops and Iraqi people what they deserve"! You and your far left liberal nuts want and make the world believe Americans are carving up people alive, skinning them alive, chopping off their fingers and limbs and crushing their bones while they are alive, burning them alive, poking out their eyes and cutting out their tongues while they are alive, sexually mutilating them while they are alive, and we can only imagine what else -- while they are alive. You and your far left liberal friends tell the world over and over and over that Americans torture their prisoners... and the rest of the world knows what that means. They know what REAL TORTURE is and then they believe that is what Americans are doing. Why? Because you have told the world that, axis!!!

Even now, you express no outrage to the unthinkable torture our two soldiers endured before they finally died. Even now, you are equating the torture they endured with the actions of a few soldiers at Abu Ghraib. No, axis. Our troops did not have the pleasure enduring loud music, embarrassing photos, embarrassing positions, and barking dogs. Our troops would have been very happy if that was the torture they had endured before their pain and agony finally stopped with their deaths.

Just as your posts and those of your far left liberal kooks encourage terrorists to kill our American soldiers and Iraqi men, women, and children... your propaganda encourages terrorists to perform their barbaric acts of REAL TORTURE on our captured soldiers. Why? To repay them for the REAL TORTURE the liberals have convinced the world that Americans perform. And... to get more media attention and more anti-American propaganda from the pathetic liberal propaganda machine!

Just as the death of each American soldier and Iraqi family is a vote cast by terrorists for Democrats... the torture of our Americans troops is another vote by terrorists for Democrats! Wake up Americans! Think and understand what the liberal propaganda is doing to America. You will likely have many more opportunities to consider it too, because the terrorists will be casting many more ballots between now and November -- both in deaths and now capturing and torturing our troops!

Hopefully Americans will think about what our kidnapped soldiers endured and the effect the liberal propaganda had on them. Hopefully our readers will begin to understand what the liberal propaganda is doing. Hopefully they will tell their not so liberal friends. Hopefully they will send e-mails to their friends, family, and every one they know. Hopefully they will write letters to editors. Hopefully they will write their members of Congress. Hopefully -- the American people will begin to think and see the damage liberals like you are doing to America, our image, and our troops.

No, axis. I'm not through on this subject either.

AAR

Electrical shocks, waterboarding, pulling off peoples fingernails, cutting off fingers, threatening with vicious dogs an inch from your face, sodomy, its all good to you. You like it, it turns you on when you hear about prisoners getting sodomized doesn't it? It has the same effect on Rumsfeld.

Posted by: axis at June 21, 2006 10:42 AM

What kind of books do you read Axis? Maybe mommy needs to regulate your fantasy intake a little more(drug intake also), keep up the good work Axis! Your blithering is winning the hearts and minds(NOT)! If you weren't such a useless, gutless, prettyboy, I would probably take your posts more personally! But your actually helping our cause, thanks again! B-man!

NO! axis...

We are REAPING what the anti-American, lies, and propaganda you and your far left liberal Democrats are SOWING. It is YOU who are SOWING the rhetoric, propaganda, and lies that is resulting in the DEATH and TORTURE of American troops. It is YOU WHO ARE KILLING AND TORTURING Americans and Iraqis.

And yes YOU ARE SOWING some REALLY, REALLY BAD SEEDS. You are have been doing it for many years, but your hate filled propaganda is getting even worse -- if that is possible.

The entire WORLD is REAPING the results of the hate and lies people like YOU are SOWING!!!!!

If our troops were the torturing barbarians you tell and want the world to believe, the terrorist would all be dead by now, which is where they belong.

Go create another source for your liberal propaganda. Stop using the lives and bodies of American soldiers and Iraqi families to feed your slander, lies, hatred, and anti-American propaganda!!!

You do make an excellent case against some of the free speech that is damaging to our nation, our people, our security, and our way of life!!!

Perhaps your seeds will someday come back to haunt you......

AAR

axis,

Please provide me the links to the articles about our troops "pulling off people's finger nails and cutting off fingers"!

Don't give me a story -- if one even exists -- about a soldier who may have "snapped" after seeing his friends blown up and carved up alive... one by one... day after day. I want to see the stories that verify this is the ROUTINE way Americans treat prisoners... as you imply... as you want the world to believe!!!

Please provide me the links too about American soldiers burning people alive, cutting out their tongues, peeling off their skin, carving chunk, by chunk, by chunk from their bodies, sexually mutilating them, poking out their eyes, crushing and breaking their bones, sticking sticks in them, slowly burning them with hot irons -- and other REAL TORTURE -- as they slowly die in horror, agony, and unimaginable pain and suffering.

PLEASE PROVIDE THOSE LINKS...axis!!!

Have you missed all of the REAL TORTURING being done by your terrorist allies and friends? Did you miss those stories, or do they just not fit with your propaganda. Why don't you try to think about what those people went through. Right... you can't even begin to imagine that -- but you ignore it... you forget it... you dismiss it... YOU ENCOURAGE IT!!!

Oh, and axis, have you seen the news. Those soldiers who "embarrassed" the Iraqi terrorist prisoners, who allowed a dog to bark in their face, who took embarrassing photos... those soldiers are being tried and punished! Did you miss that news axis, or does that news just not suit your hate and anti-America campaign?

AAR

Warrior nation,

Read that second half of my first comment.

-- Blame the media again huh? Lets see ... Bush violates US law and International Law as well as the Geneva convention by torturing.

Reporters DO THEIR JOB and report on the illegal acts to the public.

In your eyes, the reporters are the ones responsible? Man, you people are truly, without a shadow of a dobt out of touch with reality.

Come November, you will be crying because you are going to see exactly how out of touch you really are and your silly wedge issues are not going to save you asses.

Less than 6 months until we say good riddance to you. I can't want to see you backbenching it in Congress for another 48 years or so, just like you were prior to 1994.

It took Republicans 5 decades to unseat the Democratic majority in Congress, you blew it in less than 12.

Hasta la Vista Baby :)

We are REAPING what the anti-American, lies, and propaganda you and your far left liberal Democrats are SOWING. It is YOU who are SOWING the rhetoric, propaganda, and lies that is resulting in the DEATH and TORTURE of American troops. It is YOU WHO ARE KILLING AND TORTURING Americans and Iraqis.

Oh dayyum Axis, I was just about to say WTF are you rambling on about (US Political History 101??) in the above post, and WHY didn't you address ANY of the big issues and questions raised.. but THEN I realised that you CAN'T do that AND mantain your position at the same time - so OF COURSE you're not going to answer them! So I just wanted to apologise for that SLIP-UP on MY part. By the way - I'm writing from New Zealand, and would comment here that even from my side of the globe, the issues are so obvious here (and I still lie awake at night trying to figure out how you liberals managed to get your heads so screwed up)...

Buenos Dias
Quinton