Mark, you need to put up some links to Murtha's challenger. That way, every time he says something stupid, we could make one easy click and put our money where our mouths are.

We should just redeploy the troops to Antarctica to fight global warming ;)

This young woman is Murtha's opponent:

http://www.dianairey.com/

Give often and as much as possible...

If this pantload's wife or kids cared about him, they would get the hook, pull him off the national stage, and get him evaulated!!
that being said..I really don't care..KEEP HIM OUT IN FRONT!!!!!!
and who is he to call someone Fat Ass?? have you looked at his.....ROFL!!!!!

Murtha is an American hero. Unlike Bush & his cronies, John Murtha cares what happens to those brave men & women who have served their country in this bogus war in Iraq.

Unlike Bush & his cronies, John Murtha knows what it is like to be in combat for your country. He is a true patroit who deserves our respect and appreciation for speaking out and telling the truth.

canadian...

Murtha did his duty and for that he is to be applauded... but having seen combat doesn't make him a miltary strategist or battlefield general.

He is a politician now...open to criticism and in this case well deserved criticism...

ps...Franklin Roosevelt nor Lincoln served in the military.. did that make them any less Presidential??

Canadian,

And Benedict Arnold gave excellent military service to America - before turning traitor. The lesson? Even military service to our country doesn't guaranty against treachery...and it also doesn't assure against folly. I'm actually beginning to soften on Murtha a bit - earlier on I just put him down as a traitor, but I'm starting to wonder if he's senile...he can't always have been this ignorant and out of touch with reality.

Also, I dispute the notion that he cares about the troops - if he really cared, he wouldn't be providing fodder for the terrorists propaganda effort, which makes the war go on longer, and thus means more dead Americans.

Thanks for pointing out the lunacy/dishonesty in trying to revamp cowardly retreats as mere "changes in direction". When you are moving forward and suddenly reverse yourself, losing all the ground you have won, yes, you ARE making a "change in direction".

Murtha is an excellent example of this. He served honorably in the Marines, and now he is serving dishonorably in the House of Representatives. A "change in direction"? Yes, but hardly anything to brag about.

And while the Dems like to pretend that serving in the military imparts some mystical gift for things military, clearly it does not. A man can do well taking orders, and fall apart completely once he has to make command decisions. Even those who have exhibited some degree of leadership can have opposing opinions on how things should be done, as witnessed by the recent spate of ex-generals criticizing the war effort.

CO can't point to anything Murtha did in the military that might qualify him as a "hero". He was just a good soldier. It is so funny that military service was not only not a requirement during the Clinton years, it was a detriment to those who idolized the president who bragged about "loathing the military". Only when the Dems singled out Kerry to take on Bush did a military background achieve so much importance to the Left---and even then, it was a trumped-up military record, and they still had to invent a passel of lies about Bush to elevate their guy to what they could pretend was a relatively higher stature.

The fact that CO is still beating that tired old drum about Bush is proof they have absolutely nothing new, and that the old stuff hasn't improved with age.

Aa a local talk show host and (real!) military man pointed out the other day, the real way to spell "redeploy" is R E T R E A T.

Excellent Almiranta!!! Have you been on vacation?

Murtha is an American hero. Unlike Bush & his cronies, John Murtha cares what happens to those brave men & women who have served their country in this bogus war in Iraq.

Unlike Bush & his cronies, John Murtha knows what it is like to be in combat for your country. He is a true patroit who deserves our respect and appreciation for speaking out and telling the truth.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at June 19, 2006 06:49 PM

Please CO, gives us a run down the list of reasons to claim Murtha as a hero! Is it because he served honorably in the U.S. Marine corp? If so then I guess I am a hero also, but I doubt that is the reason seeing as you libs just LOVE us military men! Must be, he's a hero cause he supports you narrowminded way of thinking! Yup, that must be it! Well I don't feel like wasting space telling you ALL OF THE MANY things that George Bush has done for this country, but he can truly be looked upon as a hero to people around the world & yet hated vitriolically by the other people with their backward way of thinking!

GEORGE BUSH TRULY IS AN AMERICAN HERO!

GEORGE BUSH TRULY IS AN AMERICAN HERO!

Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha!

Calling a chickenhawk coward that sends troops to die w/out justififcation, w/out the number of troops needed to stabalize the region and proper body armor, an American hero.

I love comedy.

Canadian...that's great. Murtha did his job but apparently he left his brains on the battlefield.

This is the same guy that believes Somalia was a victory for the USA. He actually said this.

The man is OUT TO LUNCH!!

Teenage...without justification? Nevermind...you were probably 3 years old when most of this stuff started and it hasn't ended since. Plenty of justification.

Calling a chickenhawk coward that sends troops to die w/out justififcation, w/out the number of troops needed to stabalize the region and proper body armor, an American hero.

I love comedy.

Posted by: teenage liberal at June 19, 2006 11:28 PM

Giving military advice from a barely wet behind the ears dumba.. liberal! Bwahahaaaahaaaaahaaaaa! Now that's funny! You know, it's bad enough being to stupid in your teenage years to see the folly of liberalism, but at least you have an excuse!

bearman,

I wasn't giving any military advice, but maybe Chimpy should have listened to the generals who told his administration that they needed more troops to stabalize Iraq, or maybe they should have armored their troops more.

Or maybe teenage you might want to learn more about how things work in the military before you go spouting off things you don't understand. Do you have any clue how it works? Step one?

How many people are involved in the process? How the process even works? I highly doubt it if you think it's all up to Bush to say yes or no or that he ignored a huge number of folks and decided to "forget the body armor" or send in "too few troops."

Heck folks are complaining about how many troops we have over there now, could you imagine if we sent more?! Sheesh, you're sounding as bad as Murtha.

teenaged,

Please go read "The World Crisis" and "War Through the Ages" before you again comment on matters military...you're just looking a fool right now.

Almiranta, bearman, warriornation

John Murtha is a true American hero, not only for his military service, but for his courage in fearlessly stating his convictions and putting himself in the firing line of those who would malign his good character with malicious lies & slanderous innuendo.

I salute John Murtha, American hero.

CO, thanks for being honest & keeping it short! I know you had about a million other things you could have said about Murtha. Especially since noone even knew who he was before he became anti-Iraq!

Now, according to your own stated pre-requisites, I here-by nominate George Bush to recieve the liberals herohood award! I mean, come on G.B. served honorably(regardless of your personal thoughts, he was discharged HONORABLY), and he has fearlessly if not defiantly stood by his convictions and put himself in the firing range of the media & the rest of the lib community(fortunately for him they don't believe in guns)! Shouldn't you be giving him honor also CO?

Hmmmmmm.........teenaged, Now I know your going to hate this but pretend your G.B. for ten seconds! Now you have let's say three generals on the ground in Iraq & 6 generals in the states advising you on the war. One general(one at home of course) stand up and threatens to resign if you don't send more troops. What are you going to do teen? Those are the most simplistic terms I could come up with. I hope they are adequate to get you to understand the complexity of his situation.

Canadian Observer is EXACTLY what Ann Coulter is talking about:

"Almiranta, bearman, warriornation

John Murtha is a true American hero, not only for his military service, but for his courage in fearlessly stating his convictions and putting himself in the firing line of those who would malign his good character with malicious lies & slanderous innuendo.

I salute John Murtha, American hero."

C.O.....thank you for proving Coulter's point. You put it out there that because he was on the battlefield 35 years ago that his word stands and you cannot challenge his word.

TOTAL B.S. We will not coward behind your personal shields. Just because he was in a war 35 years ago does not make him a total IDIOT today.

Ann Coulter is smiling right now.

Bearman

I would honor him also, only problem is, Bush has sent over 2,500 good American men & women to their maker and countless other innocent Iraqi men, women & children to their reward.

John Murtha is trying to save lives, not sacrifice them for illegitmate reasons. No, John Murtha, American hero; George W. Bush - Not.

um........nope wrong again! He is saving many lives here and abroad by extinguishing your pals in al-quada and other murderous dictators that think they are above mankind!

the men and women who have VOLUNTEERED for this mission(Americans & Iraqi's) do so with the knowledge that their lives are on the line! As does the other side! Go volunteer for something CO and maybe you'll get the point, tho I doubt it!

bearman

Those innocent Iraqi citizens caught in the cross-fire and considered by the warmongers to be collateral damage did not VOLUNTEER, I repeat, did not VOLUNTEER.

CO- Didn't Murtha send the troops to Iraq also? is he not a member of Congress that authorized force?

neither are those caught in the crossfire between cops and criminals.....but I guess the cops should just stay home then huh! You guys are more and more irrational as the days go by!

Rich

After the shock of 9-11, Murtha, like the majority of Americans, thought they could trust Bush & his administration. Unfortunately, that was a mistake, for him and for the others who fell for the bogus reasons given for invading & occupying a country with no ties to the tragic events in NYC, Washington & Pennsylvania.

Bearman

Crossfire between the police and criminals takes place in your own country, not in some foreign land you have bombed with shock & awe, killing untold numbers of totally innocent men, women & children. Not the same thing, at all.

CO.
The people of Iraq have suffered for years! I suggest you look at the number of citizens that S.H. murdered, I suggest you look at how many families HE left with out Fathers and Sons due to his war with Iran. I suggest you look at what Iraq did to Kuwait and the people that stayed there in 90 and 91 before you call Bush a murder. Have you ever looked into the genocide of the Kurds? Did you ever read the U.N. report naming S.H. the worlds worst environmental terrorist?
Get off your high horse (mouse) about us being murders, what the hell has Canada done to liberate ANY oppressed or genocide peoples in the last 20 years?
As far as our Brave men and woman. They are not just the young! We have people of all colors, gender and age in theater. And yes, they are our BRAVE men and woman! Volunteers , each and every one of them, knowing damned well that they had a better chance of being in harms way than winning the lotto! They understand the meaning of sacrifice, loss and selfless service. Yet they endure, they serve and they stand the challenge and yes, they even endure the crap from people like you, the haters. They fight there and they fight the emotional war from what they hear back here.
Yet, they, our BRAVE men and woman, not Bush, keep asking to go back, two, three and four tours. Why, because . They simply want to help give to someone else what they already have, Freedom. They hope that they do something with their life that is for the good of all, not just themselves.

CO, you can bow down to an American hero that puts Murtha to shame! His code name "BURR". Hey burr, good to hear you on the circuit! Hope the mend is going fine, still waiting for you to offer to help me and the business(J/K)! I'll drop another email to you soon. God Bless brother!

Bearman

Crossfire between the police and criminals takes place in your own country, not in some foreign land you have bombed with shock & awe, killing untold numbers of totally innocent men, women & children. Not the same thing, at all.

Posted by: Canadian Observer at June 20, 2006 10:19 PM

CO, weren't you lecturing me earlier on the global community and how that is why you stick your nose into our business! Sounds like your sporting a major double standard bro. Like burr said, it's time to come down from that high horse of yours! If you don't like it, keep it to yourself, some of us need to have the guts to care from somewhere other than an armchair!

"...We failed to do the thing we have a true genius for, compromise. Americans like to think of themselves as uncompromising but it’s the basis of our democracy, our government is founded on it; it failed.”
--Shelby Foote, Ken Burns's "The Civil War"

I am appalled by the mudslinging on this and on liberal websites. Each side demonizes the other and neither does this nation good service. If character assassination and slander continue to mark political dialogue in this nation, then terrorism has achieved its objective. We are a house divided, and the terrorists have won.