Get a grip. This is earth to Mark.

An honorable man? Hrumpfff. I'm guessing he made some kind of sleezy deal. You defend Ann Coulter and Karl Rove in the same evening.

Are you sane, man?

Ok Mark. I'll bite.
I'll appologise to Turd Blossom as soon as you aplpogise for defending Ms. Coulter's vile and mean-spirited comments aimed at the 9/11 widows.
Care to accept my challenge, hypocrite?

Mark, you should add ONCE AGAIN before 'you have dragged the name of an honorable man through the mud'. You DO know why they do it, don't you? They're scared of him.

Ash, shouldn't you be watching FOX right now? Admit it. It is a good news program. They're the only ones who have the guts to interview the interrogators at Gitmo to get the REAL truth and nothing but the truth.

That was suppposed to be 'appologise for defending Ms. Coulter's...'

Ash,

Defend Coulter? I don't think so...but Rove, that is another story. He's an honorable man - not a blot on his record, and you on the left have been slandering him for years.

TL,

You really need to learn some respect...keep on like that and no one will ever pay you any mind.

"You really need to learn some respect...keep on like that and no one will ever pay you any mind."

who you talking about?

TL: I am impressed you are taking an interest in politics at such a young age! Kudos.

Take heed at Mark's advice. If you call people names, no one will take you seriously.

Here's some more advice I'd like you to think about and that is to research both sides (Dem and Rep) on every issue so you can make an informed decision.

"You really need to learn some respect..."
LMAO..............sure thing pal, right after you show some respect to the 9/11 widows you smeared. on another post you've made.
Hypocrite.

Oh my goodness---after YEARS of the most vile, unsubstantiated, baseless, vicious, personal attacks imaginable against every member of the Bush administration and the President of the United States himself, AND his family, the Left is suddenly SENSITIVE about 'personal attacks'?

After all, Ann did not make fun of the widows' personal appearance, or physical characteristics. She did not attack their children. She did not accuse them of genocide or of being criminals. She was just offended by their use of their tragedies to promote their personal agendas.

You Lefties can call a man a cold-blooded murderer, worse than Hitler, corrupt and evil, a liar, and make similar efforts to slime all who are his side of the political aisle, and now suddenly you have developed a sense of JUSTICE?

Give me a break.

Yes, Ann is too hard on the widows. It is not, as I said, their fault that they have been treated like heroes when their husbands were just in the wrong place at the wrong time, while the widows of genuine heroes who voluntarily risked, and lost, their lives in active defense of our country get ignored. It is not their fault that the Lefty media lionize them and act as if losing a loved one conveys some mystical aura of political infallibility. Ann points out truths in a very unkind manner, and in this case I think she went too far.

Which has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with Karl Rove.

YOU (the Left) were the ones assigning the most base and vicious motives to the man, somehow KNOWING that the simple act of correcting a malicious rumor campaign was really an act of the most vile vengeance, spite, and retribution. YOU are the ones still trying to convict him, without benefit of judge, jury, or evidence, still spreading malicious rumors to the effect that he really was indicted, just in secret. YOU were the ones who went totally overboard, sparing nothing in your attempts to slime this man, just because you WANTED him to be guilty of something.

And now that he has been totally exonerated, you are so overcome with spite and malice, you just can't stand it. So you try to drag in Ann Coulter.

Hey, when Starr declined to indict Clinton, we didn't start trying to drag in James Carville or Paul Begala, the two nastiest pieces of work to ever comment on politics. The only reason they never got the attention Ann gets is because they were never funny, or even smart---they were just mean. But they were not relevant to the Clinton case, and Ann is not relevant to Rove.

(If I had a time machine, I would go back and plant stories about how Clinton had been secretly convicted, but his conviction had been sealed on the condition that he do whatever he could to drag the Clinton name through the mud and embarrass Hillary so badly she could never consider a run for the presidency. Come to think of it, that WOULD explain a lot......)

Not that relevance has any more meaning to you obsessed fanatical loathing-filled sneerers and snipers at all that is not radical Liberalism.

Just what is it that has gotten you all so frantic these days? I guess it is just more proof that what is good for the country is bad for the Libs, because nothing has happened to get you all so riled up except a long string of very positive news for the United States of America. It's just been too long, I guess, since you got to indulge in ghoulish glee over some tragedy or disaster.

But life being what it is, something terrible is bound to happen to cheer you up, and you can do your monkey dance of joy again.

"You really need to learn some respect..."
LMAO.................This coming from a guy who defended Coulter's hate speech aimed at 9/11 widows and makes cheap shots at Kerry, claiming that he never released his war records, when in fact he did release them a year ago?
Sure thing, hypocrite.

Honorable. Give me a break. He admitted to outting a classified CIA operative, in conservative eyes, this action makes him honorable? Please. It borders on treason.

vero, Mark was talking about TL--the self-described teenaged liberal. He was warning him that if he continued to act like he does, no one will ever respect him.

But that ship has sailed.......

They're baaaaack!!

Kerry released only a very small amount of his miliary records, with nearly 100 pages missing. Check it out.

Go to the Kerry thread, near the end of the posts, and answer the Kerry questions I posed. It's a challenge. You big bad tough lefties don't shy away from a challenge from a GIRL, do you??

And NO ONE ever "admitted to outing a classified CIA operative". Hell, the special prosecutor didn't even care enough to ASK if she was either a 'special operative' OR 'classified'. The Liberal spinners have put out quite a tear-jerking, elaborate, scenario of the Perils of Plame, but it is fantasy.

tal and axis are just prime examples of the kind of gross ignorance that enjoys parading itself.

google, boys. google. There is plenty of real information out there. You don't need to rely on Ranty and the Kos for all your "information". The problem with actually learning FACTS is that then you don't know what to do with all the garbage you've been believing for all these years. You're right---it's just easier to keep regurgiating the garbage. After all, you don't care what people think of you, do you? You have each other.......

Almiranta

That's too funny. I just said something similar on another thread but I meant to put it here.

I've never seen so many far left wing fringe kooks so afraid of a girl. I mean, one little girl is trying to sell some books and these "boys" are shaking in their shoes. What a bunch of spineless cowards.

Their actions are a hell of a lot worse than just dragging a man's name through the mud. They interfered deliberately with the prosecution of the war - they fouled up the intellegence community -they've bastarized the use of criminal indictments against those politicians they can't beat at the ballet box. They would do anything to beat Bush and Rove -ethics be damned - America be damned.

Almiranta--CJ--Mark,

We will see who ends up huggin' the tar-baby when Fitzgerald gets done rootin' in Scooter and Dick's bag-o-fun. LOL!!

--Peace out!

Rove will answer to a higher court, as we all will, some day.

Mark-In politics you always need to consider the source. Mark Corallo, spokesman for Rove, is paid the big bucks to disseminate positive PR, putting the best possible spin on his client's situation. In that case, I would hardly expect him to come out and admit that Rove made a deal with Fitzgerald to save his slimy hide! Its a shame,too, as America greatly anticipated the entertaining spectacle of him being frog-marched out of the White House.

Mark-you DID defend Coulter's appalling remarks about the 9/11 widows. We all read it, so don't damage your weak credibility on this site any further by denying it.

It isn't about what you know, it's about what you can prove. Rove is a dirtbag who's motto is: "Win at all costs, no matter who dies". Peace

not a blot on his record

Well, sure, if you ignore all those blots on his record.

"Rove's reputation for winning is eclipsed only by his reputation for ruthlessness, and examples abound of his apparent willingness to cross moral and ethical lines."

A partial list:

Printing flyers on his opponent's letterhead promoting a nonexistant party with "free beer and girls"

Creating fake flyers attacking his own candidate to make it seem as though his opponent is doing the attacking.

Bugging his own office and blaming it on his opponent. (Noticing a pattern here?)

The "John McCain has an illegitimate Black baby" push polls in South Carolina

And so on and so on and so on.

Really, Noonan, were you instructed at some point in your life to not think before you speak, or is that just your default setting? Either way, you should override it--you'll spend much less time with your foot in your mouth that way.

"Take heed at Mark's advice. If you call people names, no one will take you seriously."

Since TL and axis and a few others offer nothing substantive nor intelligent in their missives, I've not taken them seriously since first reading their comments.

Could it be any clearer that the boys WANT Rove to be found guilty of SOMETHING, ANYTHING?

Just as they are rooting for the economy to tank, hoping there will be bad news on the Iraqi front, cheering anything that might interfere with any progress anywhere, and congratulating each other on every new example of BDS.

What a life. I just can't imagine choosing to live like that.

Almiranta,

I can imagine emulating the Stepford Wives, taking anything this administration has to say at face-value; you will have to excuse our lack of trust, but they do tend to throw "curveballs"

LOL
XOXOXO

Rove is a sneaky bugger, you have to be to hold his position. Smear tactics and misdirection are very popular in both parties and Rove is a master at it. Just admit it already. He is so good it will be difficult to charge him with anything. You talk like he's a saint which he obviously isn't. Honorable? hardly.

They must be damn good curveballs because you guys can't even foul one off.

To this day, there has been ONE INDICTMENT in 5+ years and that one looks like it's thin.

Meanwhile, Clinton had what...50 indictments. Reagan had about 30.

For all of the hating and the "lying" accusations and the "they break laws at every turn" you sure don't have much to show for it.

Maybe you guys need better lawyers because you sure suck at hitting those curveballs.

And then when the Canadians chime in...wow, now there's some curveball hitting officiandos there.

LOL

Warriornation,

I guess it helps to have your family lawyer as the man in charge of bringing indictments.

by the way, there were three indictments:

Lewis "Scooter" Libby, October 28, 2005

Thomas Noe, October 27, 2005; Noe, Chairman of President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign in northwest Ohio, and a major fund-raiser for Bush's re-election campaign, was indicted by a federal grand jury on three counts for allegedly laundering money into President Bush’s re-election campaign.

David H. Safavian, October 2005; the top procurement official for President Bush, resigned. Three days later, he was arrested and indicted on five felony counts connected to criminal investigation of lobbyist Jack Abramoff. At the time the indictment covered, from May 2002 to January 2004, Safavian had been serving as the chief of staff at the General Services Administration

--sorry to split hairs...on second thought, no i'm not

They want to make clear that Rove was not used to get Alan Foley(Plame's old boss) a job running the CIA analysts moving over to NSA(DIA) under the new Director. THERE WERE NO DEALS when Fitzgerald, a criminal conspiracy investigator, passed on criminal conspiracy charges at CIA.

I'll tell you who HAS been convicted (on insider trading) and has his conviction upheld - George Soros.

So, we have accused Republicans. And cleared Republicans. But, CONVICTED Democrats. So next time you click on moveon.org or one of the other liberal sites he pays for remember that. Rich, billionaire, criminal. Your leaders.

I'll tell you who HAS been convicted (on insider trading) and has his conviction upheld - George Soros.

So, we have accused Republicans. And cleared Republicans. But, CONVICTED Democrats. So next time you click on moveon.org or one of the other liberal sites he pays for remember that. Rich, billionaire, criminal. Your leaders.

Well there are how many Republicans under investigation in the Abramoff scandal? There is also an ongoing investigation into other Republicans who were involved in the Cunningham bribery scandal. And whose office does justice decide to search? Why William Jefferson, a Democrat, of course! Gonzales is taking care not to make any moves that hurt Bush or the Republicans too much.

The word Rove and Honorable in the same sentence seems to be quite the oxymoron.

TEO,
The Grand Jury hands down the indictment, not the AG. The Fitzgerald handed down 1 (one) indictment. Have you no conscience about lying?

More inconvenient facts that don't fit your agenda.

Bane,

Can you read properly?

"To this day, there has been ONE INDICTMENT in 5+ years and that one looks like it's thin."

--This was the quote I was responding to. Now at this point there have been 3 (THREE), indictments of people associated or within the administration of Bush. I didn't mention ONCE "The Fitzgerald" as you put it, stop reading what you THINK I said.

TEO,
Your grasp of "facts" is amusing. Can you please explain how the Attorney General is involved with the indictments? I want to bookmark your answer for JPL; I'm sure he appreciates jail-house lawyer stories from the monumentally stupid.