I demand an apology from Steve. Peace.

It's clear that the leaking of Plame's name directly led to the end of her CIA career.

I have not seen anyone who leaked her name (Libby and Rove that we know of) apologize for intentionally or unintentially disclosing her employment as a CIA agent, and thus leading a dedicated and patriotic American to have to cease her life's work.

The apologizing starts there.

"It's clear that the leaking of Plame's name directly led to the end of her CIA career."

Is it?

I know how terribly inconvenient it is to acknowledge that her own husband had been trying to impress people by bragging about his CIA wife, but there it is.

Libby is supposedly planning to introduce five sworn witnesses (not to say there aren't plenty more) to the fact that Plame's CIA status was well-known long before Joe wrote his stupid lying NYT piece.

Andrea Mitchell is on record as saying that she, and the entire press corps who covered intelligence issues, had known for some time that Plame was with the CIA.

A DNC leader defended Wilson to Novak by saying "Joe's not so bad---and his wife is with the CIA, you know".

Has she left her job as an analyst for the CIA? Have her efforts to move over into the State Department been derailed because of this? Because if she turns out to be working for State, that can't be blamed on this---it was her angling for a lateral move into State that put her in touch with the people she approached to get the gig for Joe

".........thus leading a dedicated and patriotic American to have to cease her life's work."

Very poignant, Tom. The violins are throbbing in the background. Kleenes sales have spiked. Proof? Where did you get your information that poor Valerie's had to "cease her life's work"?

Sure, she had to change some aspects of it when she decided to openly date a State Department official, and then marry him. That's a matter of public record, as her boss discusssed how she agreed she could not be covert if she was married to a diplomat.

And there were some changes when Aldrich Ames revealed the names of covert agents abroad. That is why she had to return to the United States.

Now if the Left is going to continue claiming that she was still operating as a covert agent after having been 'outed' by Ames, and after agreeing with her boss that she couldn't very well be covert if she was married to a diplomat, you had better start coming up with some verification for those statements.

It sounds good, and it tugs at the heart strings, but what is there to back it all up?

Or do all covert agents have to face being confirmed as such to anyone who calls the CIA and asks?

Maybe the apologizing should start with Wilson, for lying about what he learned in Niger, and move on to those who were so eager to find something, ANYTHING, to hang on a top administration person that they gleefully piled on with no proof, no evidence, and just a zeal for sliming conservatives. Look at the invention of a "motive" for the supposed, alleged, "outing". It was not bad enough that someone's identity had been discussed, but they had to make it worse by 'explaining', in aggrieved voices, that it was all because of ---dumdedumdum---"REVENGE". Yes, it was SPITE and MALICE and REVENGE and all sorts of mean nasty things like that.

Yeah---except it was just a simple desire to correct a malignant lie, spread by those same righteously indignant people, that it was CHENEY who had sent Wilson, which meant he was CHECKING UP ON THE PRESIDENT, which meant he thought the PRESIDENT WAS LYING, which meant DIVISION IN THE WHITE HOUSE, which meant DISLOYALTY, which meant....well, you get the picture.

So the Libs had it both ways. They could spread these smears, and know that the only way to prove them false was to provide the truth, which could then be used against them.

I'd go after the guy who set this whole thing in motion and GUARANTEED that Plame would end up in the crosshairs---her sweet beloved, Joe.

It's clear that the leaking of Plame's name directly led to the end of her CIA career.

It's clear to whom? To you, Tommie? You're sooo full of sh*t, your eyes are dark brown. You're as full of sh*t as a constipated elephant. Valerie Plame resigned voluntarily; she wasn't forced out. Tommie, your are, plain and simple, the third-biggest dumbass on this blog, right behind Barney and Ash. And right ahead of Turd Eye and maf53. Now I'd better stop before you really get pissed off. Bwahahaha!!!

It's clear that the leaking of Plame's name directly led to the end of her CIA career.

It's clear to whom? To you, Tommie? You're sooo full of sh*t, your eyes are dark brown. You're as full of sh*t as a constipated elephant. Valerie Plame resigned voluntarily; she wasn't forced out. Tommie, your are, plain and simple, the third-biggest dumbass on this blog, right behind Barney and Ash. And right ahead of Turd Eye and maf53. Now I'd better stop before you really get pissed off. Bwahahaha!!!

keebler: Here's a tip: When you say something stupid only post it once.

Still getting server errors when I post.

Um, Tommie, you said "Libby and Rove that we know of." Once again, you're making more crap up. And you're making more crap up by calling her a dedicated and patriotic American. She's a leftist hack, as is her lying husband. Son, you're as foolish as the drive-by, biased media you idolize so. Putz...

Cheez! We have a huge shortage of apologies. I am prepared to apologize to anyone for anything for a small fee. This whole demand an apology business has gotten out of hand. But who am I to critize? The market place rules. Oh yes, one more thing. I apologize to everyone who feels that my comments are offensive. My actions are inexcusable. Though not worthy of it, I humbly ask your forgiveness. The last thing the world needs is another smartass.

"Um, Tommie, you said "Libby and Rove that we know of." Once again, you're making more crap up. And you're making more crap up by calling her a dedicated and patriotic American. She's a leftist hack, as is her lying husband. Son, you're as foolish as the drive-by, biased media you idolize so. Putz..."

Um, well, it's proven that both Libby and Rove told the press that Plame (or WIlson's wife) works for the CIA.

Always a pleasure reading your posts, Keef.

In terms of her job, it changed it. There's a good retelling of her intial reaction to reading the Novak column... can't find it on the net will keep looking. But she immediately started writing a list of things that would be or could be comprimised from her outing.

The revelation in Novak's article had a real impact on her career at the CIA:

After she was named in a syndicated column by Robert Novak, Plame had no chance of working again in her chosen field, her friends say, and the strain of remaining at the agency has taken its toll.

"For all intents and purposes out at the CIA, she's like a leper . . . she's radioactive," said Larry Johnson, a former CIA analyst and acquaintance of Plame's who was in her officer training class. "There are instances where some people at headquarters have shunned her. In other cases they don't know what to say. It's like someone whose child has died: What do you say to them?

"There are a variety of things she could have done at the agency. She could have become a station chief overseas and run espionage operations. It has destroyed her life on that front. What is she supposed to do now, wear a button saying, " 'Hi, I work for the CIA'?"

Keefer this woman worked for years on counterpoliferation issues, though it's not for certain, many people claim as a NOC agent, which is the deepest, least-protected cover. And now you attack simply because you don't like her husband? I see no reason not to believe she has been a dedicated and loyal servant of this country. Obviously you do.

Let's not also forget that a CIA cover agency was exposed in these leaks as well.

It's about time we start to demand some apologies! I could think of quite a few more apologies we should be demandign as a matter of fact.

Same here bearman!

Ash, here's a tip: When you recover from your mental illness, then you can give me advice. Until then, funk off.

Patuney? I'm still laughing my arse off over that one, Ash-wipe...

Tom, spin it any way you like. Her husband lied about who sent him; he lied in his op ed; he lied in his book. And now their lawyer says they may sue.

I feel no remorse over Valerie's "ruined" career. She and Joe are DemocRAT hacks, and they funked with the wrong people. You go on lovin' 'em, Tom. They're your people, not mine.

Always a pleasure? Yeah, right...

Tom, spin it any way you like. Her husband lied about who sent him; he lied in his op ed; he lied in his book. And now their lawyer says they may sue.

I feel no remorse over Valerie's "ruined" career. She and Joe are DemocRAT hacks, and they funked with the wrong people. You go on lovin' 'em, Tom. They're your people, not mine.

Always a pleasure? Yeah, right...

"Her husband lied about who sent him;"

Keefer, stop emberrassing yourself. I know that would entail you giving up blog writing, but take the free time to read a book or something (I suggest the Autobiography of Malcom X... good stuff).

Democrats should hang their heads in shame, if they had any self respect left. I am so glad I fled that pathetic party years ago.

Speaking of apologies, I demand an apology from George W. Bush, who stated that anyone that was found to have been involved in leaking Plame's name would no longer be forced to resign from the W.H. Guess that sounded good when we didn't know who leaked her name to the press.

I am also waiting for an apology from Scott McClellan who insisted that neither Rove nor Libby had anything to do with Valerie Plame.

While Bush is at it he can apologize for the sixteen words in his State of the Union in 2003, maintaining that Saddam was getting uranium from Niger. At the time of the speech, this had already been debunked.

While we are on the subject of apologies, I'm really expecting one from Mark Noonan, tho I should know better, for being an apologist for the Republican terrorist, Ann Coulter.

Well thats it for now, will update as needed.

Tom, I read that book right about the time you were poopin' yellow.

Speaking of embarrassing one's self; I suggest you learn to spell.

James, DemocRATs have no shame. They rely on their lemmings all being as stupid as Tom, Ash, and Barney...

Tom, are you saying that the CIA guy who confirmed Plame's employment there never even had the courtesy to call her? "Hey, Val, I just outed you by telling some guy on the phone that you work here. Didn't want me to do that? Ooops---my bad."

Are you saying that when Joe Blow introduced her as "my wife, the CIA agent" it never occurred to her that someone might catch on that she was a.....CIA agent?

Are you saying that after she was outed by Ames and brought home because her cover was blown, she was still given a position in "..deepest, least-protected cover.."? Wow...putting a known agent into a position like that. Is that like hiding in plain sight?

And are you really believing that any agent with two major strikes against her ever being covert again could possibly, as you claim, "...become a station chief overseas and run espionage operations"? Yeah, nothing like a high-profile spouse of a diplomat who has already been identified as a covert agent to run an espionage operation.

Are you saying that despite her efforts to move into a State Department job, her real intent was to continue "...working again in her chosen field"?

Are you calling her ex-boss a liar when he describes the talks they had when she started openly dating Wilson? Or do you simply not grasp that the wife of a diplomat can hardly be UNDERCOVER? Do you think people working undercover do so by wearing masks or disguises, so when they are later seen at embassy functions as Mrs. Diplomat no one will recognize them? Were you the one who really didn't recognize Superman when he put his Clark Kent glasses on?

Are you saying that she had no idea at all that the White House would look into, and counter, the lies told by her husband about who sent him to Niger?

And have you given any thought at all to the likelyhood that the real reason she became so "radioactive" at the CIA was because she violated the biggest rule of true undercover work, which is not to call attention, particularly investigative attention, to yourself? I'd say that merely being uncovered would have gotten her sympathy from her co-workers---it was being stupid and incompetent and the cause of all that trouble that made her a pariah.

kritter, kritter, kritter---you HAVE to try to keep up.

You claim "While Bush is at it he can apologize for the sixteen words in his State of the Union in 2003, maintaining that Saddam was getting uranium from Niger. At the time of the speech, this had already been debunked."

First, Bush NEVER "maintain(ed) that Saddam was getting uranium from Niger." In just seven words you are wrong twice. What are you trying to do, out-axis axis?

What Bush SAID was that the Brits BELIEVED that Iraq had been TRYING to get nuclear material from Niger. He never said, implied, hinted, or acted out in sign language the impression that Iraq had actually gotten anything. True, the Crystal Ball crowd may believe that he was really trying to send subliminal signals to indicate the opposite of what he was actually saying, but he is not responsible for the tinfoil hat group.

Then you go on to hit Lie Number Three in the next sentence, claiming that the Niger story had been "debunked". It had not been "debunked" at the time of the speech, it has not been "debunked" at any time since the speech, and it still stands as absolute undeniable fact. British Intelligence DID (and DO) believe that Iraq had made attempts to buy yellowcake in Niger.

As far as "debunking" goes, even your hero Joe Wilson reported back to the CIA after his trip that the officials in Niger had been approached by people trying to buy yellowcake, and THEY believed those people to be agents for Iraq.

To "debunk" does NOT mean to take away the top bed and the ladder. It means to disprove. And what Bush said has never been disproved. On the contrary, it has been PROVED, over and over again.

Almiranta- You really need to get out more. Try getting your information from other websites besides this one. We've suspected that Matt and Mark are secret moles for the administration for many mooons. Peace!

Keefer, let me ask you. What's the specific lie that Wilson told about who sent him to Iraq?

I don't pretend to speak for keefer, but I did look into this when it first came out in the media that there were serious problems in the White House, that Cheney was going behind Bush's back to the point of sending a known anti-Bush person to look into the situation in Niger, and that this represented a major blow to the unity of the administration.

Cheney has never struck me as being a sneak, or stupid, so this simply did not make sense.

As far as I can tell, Wilson made no public statements actually claiming that Cheney, personally, sent him to Niger. He did say that he went at the request of the office of the Vice President, implying that he, personally, had been chosen by that office.

But what I did find was repeated claims by various media outlets that Cheney had personally sent Wilson, which Wilson never denied. One in particular was an episode of Hardball, where Matthews and Mitchell talked about Cheney sending Wilson. Wilson was on that show, and did not correct anyone.

So the story was planted, by someone. It was carried, and repeated, by many in the media. And Wilson never stepped up to contradict it or set the story straight.

Lefties might find 'plausible deniability' in the fact that Wilson was never quoted as directly saying Cheney personally sent him. But lies of ommission can be as grieveous as lies of commission, and this was clearly an effort to mislead, without accountability.

When accountability was introduced by the Vice President's office, then the outrage was palpable. The general response of most was, hey, if you didn't want the White House to look into it and rebut it, you should have set the record straight yourself. Because the one person who had total control over the situation from the very beginning was Joe Wilson.

He had control over what he wrote in the NYT, and chose to lie. He had control over what the media dispersed about the alleged Cheney connection, and he chose to let the lies about that continue. Surely he knew about the articles that were being written about the Cheney connection, yet he corrected no one. All Wilson had to do was contact Libby, tell him he was willing to set the record straight, make the corrections to the media stories, and it would have ended there. But he did not. He made the decision to let it play out. To me, that implies a decision to live with the consequences.

And it is the height of chutzpah for an employee of an agency to participate in the dissemination of a harmful lie, and then expect to hide behind the agency itself to avoid being exposed. Something like that is like getting on a roller coaster---once you pass a certain point, you are on for the whole ride, like it or not. The Wilsons both had ample opportunity to head this thing off, but they were too focused on trying to influence the election to care about other issues.

keebler says: patuney? I'm still laughing my arse off over that one, Ash-wipe...

Thanks, man. I like to make people happy. And while you are laughing, you can't be on some highway overpass shooting at passing motorists!!!!

Have a cookie, keebler.

Almiranta... you crack me up! Keep knocking em down. They don't know how to see truth for what it is and as a result keep ending up on their back side.

We love ya!

"He had control over what he wrote in the NYT, and chose to lie."

Almiranta,

Here is the op-ed from the NYTimes. Please show me where the lies are.

http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0706-02.htm