Do no Democrats take responsibility for the damage that their operatives inflicted on Republican "get-out-the-vote" vehicles? Wouldn't slashing the tires of a van be considered tampering with the elction? What of the old and dis-abled people who couldn't vote because of VIOLENCE perpetrated by Democratic thugs? Well, the children of Democrat officials actually.

Their view is that attacks on us and damaged inflicted on us is OK. Because, well we just deserve it.

These server error double posts are pretty frustrating.....

The Dems would suffer greatly if we were to initiate comprehensive election reform, starting with a nationwide purge of all voter registration rolls. If we were to send out letters which could not be forwarded, and which had to be returned with completed forms (noted to be filled out accurately under penalty of perjury with stated severe penalties) then we would get rid of millions of non-existent or fraudulent registrants. We'd get rid of the dead voters, and the double-dippers who register in more than one precinct. Every letter returned as not delivered would be a registrant's name removed from the rolls.

If a legitimate voter moved, there would be enough publicity about the program so he would know about it, and could register in his new precinct.

The next step would be to eliminate Motor Voter and same-day registration. It is a popular claim that the more voters, the better. I could not disagree more. Voting is probably the most important task any of us has, regarding our citizenship as Americans. If we can't be bothered to get ourselves registered, then we shouldn't vote.

And after that, we would have to make it a requirement that every single properly executed ballot (otherwise known as a VOTE) would be counted. No matter if it could possibly affect the Electoral College commitment of that state, our the outcome of the race. If it's a vote, we count it. Period. We only count it once, but we count it.

Following all of that, we need to be able to verify identity at the voting booths. The only way to do that is to require a photo ID from a government agency.

No translators at voting areas. Naturalized citizens have to be able to pass an English proficiency exam, and all election material is printed in newspapers well in advance, so there is no excuse for not being able to understand the issues.

And finally, every voting booth and absentee ballot should be clearly marked with a warning:

"If this ballot is not executed in a manner to clearly indicate the intent of the voter, without any need for interpretation, it will not be considered to be a valid vote. It is your responsibility as a voter to correctly mark your ballot."

Election fraud and tampering should have very severe penalties. And it would not hurt to have penalties for filing false or fraudulent claims which interfere with the process and undermine the populace's confidence in their elections. Many places have penalties for filing frivolous lawsuits--why not the same for frivolous election claims?

Almiranta - wow.

I think you just outlined what should be the "voting Reform Act". Excellent. I'd also try to find a way to better accommodate military absentee voting. I did it (back in the day) and it was pretty had. Well, at least it seemed hard at the time.

I'd also fight the amendment that would surely be added to allow felons to vote.

Again...the error message said to try again later. If you remove a double post, will you remove the first one? I corrected a couple of typos in the second.

Also, can't post on the Coulter thread---just get a note that the page has expired, or some such thing.

I think you are under attack from hackers, trying to shut you down. We've seen the dramatic increase in Libs swamping the site, and this seems like too much of a coincidence to be a coincidence. Could be your fame as a significant influence has attracted too much attention from the Dark Side. But we'll stick with you, even if we have to wade through multiple posts.

Thanks for the feedback, Kahn. As with any reform, there are many corollary laws that would have to be passed, or included in the main one, to correct all the problems. I have not been in the military, so don't know that process. But yes, if there is any segment of our population which should be encouraged to vote, and which should be enabled to vote, it is the military.

The fact that so many military votes are routinely discarded just makes me furious. I don't see how that can possibly be allowed.

So----let's try to get this into the hands of people who can do something. It is too late for the midterms, but I can't imagine another national election under the same archaic and inefficient system we have now.

But what would the donks do with the dead vote? You know those pets vote 100% democrat. Oh and lets not forget the felon vote and those who vote in multiple districts.

The Voting Reform Act (Kahn, great name) is an excellent idea, Almiranta!! In AZ, we have to show ID with our home address on it. If you don't have an ID with your current address, you must show a photo ID, plus two pieces of mail with your name and current address (and it must be either your water bill, electric bill, mortgage bill). You should have heard the Dems hem and haw about this, but it is now law and I LOVE IT! I could send a copy to McCain?

And you're so right about military votes not being counted. How many did they throw out in 2004? EVERY legal vote needs to count, especially the votes of our men and women in the armed forces.

Not sure if the site is being hacked or not. If the neorads wanted to cause major problems, they wouldn't stop at multiple posts, they'd be changing the content of the posts! It is most likely the increase in traffic and/or amount of space allocated for this site on the server. I'm sure Matt and Mark will figure it out.

After the debacle of the Washington State Governors election in 2004, Democrats have nothing to complain about. Moving us too all mail-in ballots just gives them an easier chance at a repeat next election.

Endless recounts until their person finds enough "lost ballots" to give them the win, denying Military absentee ballots, skuldugery with "get out the vote" vehicles and endless other less than stellar actions, they have no room to complain about they were robbed.

Besides, hasn't sKerry been acting like he won the election anyways?

I've never seen so many left wing lunatics afraid of a girl in my life. Some girl trying to sell books and these kooks are shivering in their shoes. How sad and pathetic! What a bunch of spineless cowards

Ooops, that was meant for another thread

That's OK, CJ---you got it off your chest and made a good point. As I said on that thread, the sudden sensitivity to personal attacks seems odd. No, not odd. Hypocritical. Which, for Dems, is NOT odd.

*Shakes head*

Ohio was a trumpted up "foul" from the word go. There was far to big a gap in votes to even worry about any monkey buisness yet they went and started crying about it. Even after all the yelling they're still crying about it.

How many other states have had funny buisness with their elections and what are folks doing to fix it hmm? Voter ID's should be mandatory and absentee ballots should be counted first so they're not "thrown out."

Almiranta...

One problem with your voter reform idea is that (as I understand it, at least)voting laws are local, not federal, so the process has to be repeated in each state... and the ones that MOST need the reforms are the ones LEAST likely to pass them.

(A little off topic. but... ) it's nearly the same problem that there is with the electoral college. Any useful reform is unlikely to happen, because one side of the political spectrum or the other will likely lose chunks of EC votes, depending on which state(s) enacted the changes (ie. if the red states make changes, the dems gain a bunch of votes, and if the blue states make changes, the Republicans gain a bunch of votes). Neither side is (or should be) willing to cede their advantage if the other side does not, and so the only fair way to address the issue is nationally, but that can't be because of states rights issues.

Liberals still bitching about Ohio yet they won't support voter ID at the polls.

What an amazingly hypocritical bunch.

Not a mention about New Hampshire, Wisconsin, etc on the liberal side....oh wait, they won those states by less than 1% but apparently getting clobbered in Ohio by more than 3 points is worth a thorough examination.

It's interesting to see that not ONE neorad has decided to make a comment on this thread.

LNC, when I mentioned that any comprehensive reform would have to include several corollary laws, I was thinking about states' rights regarding voting.

But it seems sensible to me to have a federal standard for federal voting.

If local governments want to use matchsticks, that's their business. But I don't see a problem in establishing a federal standard.

In a way, that's what the U.S. Supreme Court did in the Florida case, when they ruled that it was unconstitutional to treat some votes differently than others. They imposed a national, federal, standard based on the Constitution on a state, because it involved a national election.

Personally, I think that allowing individual states to have wildly different rules on national elections is a Constitutional issue, and I expect it to be brought up one of these days. Why not head it off by taking care of the problem now?