The other 32% are trolls who post on this site

Who the hell is going to tell someone who calls them on the phone, "My life sucks, i'm the only loser who can't cash in on this apparent economic boom"?

That is like asking someone, "Are you less intelligent than your neighbor?"; While the answer may be yes, who the hell is going to admit to that? I would surmise that atleast 70% of the respondents are going to answer negatively to that one.

Get a grip folks, you're sounding desperate for good news.

CJ,

You're probably more right than you think. 32% is estimated to be the hardcore base of the Dums. With all the gloom and pessimism they post here no matter what the news the numbers stand to reason.

And this coming from a far left wing radical kook who quotes each and every poll that is negative to Bush or Republicans. You see, to this lunatic the results don't fit it's agenda so the results are to be ignored.

CJ,

Go back to sleep...

The premise of the poll is so obviously skewed, that is why I attacked it.

Can you find ONE poll i've quoted my entire time here...nope, didn't think so, infact you can read back through the posts from last week and see where I said that I don't much buy into polls, since I don't much buy into "Social Sciences"

But thanks for playing

Don't give Turd Eye Moron the time of day; he wears pink thongs and isn't even old enough to vote...

Keebler,

You said you liked my thong, that's it, no lube for you next time.

xoxoxo

I tell people, "If I wake up in the morning, the rest of the day is a bonus." They don't get it. I have a good life and am happy - it's not that amount of what I have, it's my outlook on it.

Jo,

If a majority of people in this country saw life the way you see it, we wouldn't have trillions of dollars in personal debt.

'Success' in this country is still measured by material status, and until we can start teaching our kids that working less to spend more time with your family and giving up on some creature comforts, is just as worthwhile as owning your Jaguar and the condo in Aspen, then maybe we can reverse the suicidal cycle of borrow-spend-debt. Perhaps that's why a vast majority of marriages end because of "money issues"

Jo, you can safely ignore TEO's latest effort to 'splain our country to us. Evidently when he came to America it had nothing to do with material things, or economic opportunities. He is much purer than that, you see. (I'll bet he built his ultralight out of old discarded Che and Fidel and Bolivar T-shirts. Oh, no,that's right---he WEARS those!)

TEO came to America for, I would guess, two very good reasons. One was that his home country is very dangerous and offers little or no freedom of speech. The other is that it offered no possibility for advancement--that is, to acquire material things.

So he had to find a country which is strong militarily, though he has refused to serve, himself. He had to find a country which was strong economically, so he could prosper and have the time and money to fly around in motorized kites (which he pretends makes him braver than those who fly supersonic fighter jets). And he had to find a country where he could spout his leftist drivel without fear of arrest or being 'disappeared'. There is really only one country that meets those criteria, so he has settled in here, much like a parasitic bug burrowed into its host, and from the safety of his new country, his economic status, and his political freedom he lectures us on our shortcomings.

It is funny to have TEO lecture is on how the only reason for debt in this country is the determination that happiness lies in material possessions. After all, he is so happy to express his hatred of this country itself and its poltical system and its leadership, it is clear that the only thing keeping him here is the opportunity to have a lot of those material possessions himself. (That and he might have to actually serve his own country if he were to go back.) But maybe it's that people feel so much confidence in the country's economy, and in their futures, that they are not afraid to incur some debt. Nah...TEO needs to invent a reason that he can use to make himself feel superior.

Jo, you can safely ignore TEO's latest effort to 'splain our country to us. Evidently when he came to America it had nothing to do with material things, or economic opportunities. He is much purer than that, you see. (I'll bet he built his ultralight out of old discarded Che and Fidel and Bolivar T-shirts. Oh, no,that's right---he WEARS those!)

TEO came to America for, I would guess, two very good reasons. One was that his home country is very dangerous and offers little or no freedom of speech. The other is that it offered no possibility for advancement--that is, to acquire material things.

So he had to find a country which is strong militarily, though he has refused to serve, himself. He had to find a country which was strong economically, so he could prosper and have the time and money to fly around in motorized kites (which he pretends makes him braver than those who fly supersonic fighter jets). And he had to find a country where he could spout his leftist drivel without fear of arrest or being 'disappeared'. There is really only one country that meets those criteria, so he has settled in here, much like a parasitic bug burrowed into its host, and from the safety of his new country, his economic status, and his political freedom he lectures us on our shortcomings.

It is funny to have TEO lecture is on how the only reason for debt in this country is the determination that happiness lies in material possessions. After all, he is so happy to express his hatred of this country itself and its poltical system and its leadership, it is clear that the only thing keeping him here is the opportunity to have a lot of those material possessions himself. (That and he might have to actually serve his own country if he were to go back.) But maybe it's that people feel so much confidence in the country's economy, and in their futures, that they are not afraid to incur some debt. Nah...TEO needs to invent a reason that he can use to make himself feel superior.

I'm not usually a fan of crudity, but after reading a lot of what TEO posts, it has become evident to me that what he so delicately refers to as his "Third Eye"--the one that is always open---is located squarely between his cheeks.

Based on what comes out of it, that is.......

I'm very suspicious of polls, but it makes sense to me that the American people are an optimistic people. It also makes sense to me that since we're relatively wealthy, we're content.

That doesn't mean things are ideal, though. There's not some amazing wave of properity we're going through that makes life easier. I'm not a liberal, so let me explain:

The biggest problem we've had as conservatives is to bring back the concept of economics from a "science" which studies supply/demand/markets in the abstract to the notion economics is derived from, that of household management. There's a big difference between the two: one is about wealth generation purely, the other is about creating a home, having values, and knowing what you want out of life.

Americans saying life is good is meaningless to me. What will be meaningful is when we can have college degrees that are worth the paper they're printed on, when we have tons of good jobs that offer stability and benefits, and when we understand freedom well-enough to know that it is about what we give more than what makes us happy at a given point.

As long as the deeper problem isn't taken care of, we will have a wishy-washy people, that can say "life is good" and say "the President sucks" - two trends coming from polls, and not recognize they're contradicting themselves.

"have a good life and am happy - it's not that amount of what I have, it's my outlook on it."

Wow Jo, I couldn't agree more. When I reached my 50's I decided to "drop out" of the material rat race and live the way I want to. I no longer drive a new car and eat out all the time, but I live in the mountains and hike nearly every day. I eat apples instead of steaks and am healthier than I have ever been. I don't go the the movies very often, but can look out my balcony and see Long's Peak and listen to the birds sing.

I couldn't be happier and reccomend everyone stop thinking more stuff makes you more happy.

"Third Eye"--the one that is always open---is located squarely between his cheeks.

Based on what comes out of it, that is.......

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

Almiranta said: "I'm not usually a fan of crudity, but after reading a lot of what TEO posts, it has become evident to me that what he so delicately refers to as his "Third Eye"--the one that is always open---is located squarely between his cheeks."

I'm usually inclined to pay attention to the message apart from the messenger, and I actually pay attention to what TEO says. But I also appreciate humor. And Al, that was funny! LOL!

Almiranta,

I was born here, Ft. Benning, Columbus Georgia.

I don't care what personal belief you buy into, but I don't believe that material wealth makes you any happier. If the fruits of your labor in this life are shiny with lots of buttons and 500 channels of crap, then so be it, but mine include an ideal that working 60 hours to afford those things will never buy me back time i've missed with my family, or the simple pleasure of an afternoon at the dog-park.

The thing keeping me here is that I don't like the world you and Bush have presented, and I will raise my voice for the voiceless to stop you from advancing a world-view of perpetual war and suffering for some abstract ideal of freedom pushed at the barrel of a gun.

If you are truly so blind as to say that we incur a 'little' debt, then I pity your view of reality. We are up to our necks in personal debt, that is why bankruptcy is at an all time high, with savings at an all time low, that isn't the hallmark of a balanced or sustainable society.

TEO,

That is an absurd statement of yours - who wouldn't tell the truth to an anonymous phone caller taking a poll?

At any event, most people I know are quite happy, so the poll bears out what I see and hear every day.

There ya go TEO. You are miserable. As ALL true liberals are. You are angry! We need to change things! You conservatives are EVIL! Evil I say!!!! America is evil! Ohhhhh (wringing of hands) No wonder people hate us?!?!?!?!?!

Yep. Drink deeply your liberal misery. It is who you are.

Mark,

People lie to themselves all the time, what makes you think if they are completely capable of that, that they aren't going to lie to someone on the phone they have no social responsibility to.

here is a perfect example: Why are straw polls the most unreliable political poll? Because it's wishful thinking or plain out lying for an agenda...don't play stupid Mark, its beneath you.

Yep, americans are mostly happy with their lives, they have their ford expedition, their 2 family wagons, their 2.3 kids, their nice home in the suburbs, their weekend cottage at the lake,

Then they have their car payments, SUV, payments, mortgage payments, second mortgage payments, third mortgage payments, college payments, alimony payment, bills, lots of stress and more grey hairs that they had last year.

Thank god material possessions is the most important thing huh?

Axis,

Nah, only leftists are concerned with materialism...we Christians know that where our treasure is, so is our heart...we value money as little as dust, because that is what it is.

While you on the left are using envy and hatred to advance your cause, we on the right are just having a good time.

Mark,

if money is dust why the need for mega-churches? Shouldn't you just gather in a back yard somewhere, isn't God always there?

If money is dust, why is it that christian televangelists are always asking for some?

If money is dust, why do we need to hold fast to the idea that 3% groeth is manageable forever?

If money is dust, why do we even have it, why aren't churches preaching a return to a barter system?

Hahahahaha. Attacking "mega-churches"? Then on to growth rates. Then back to churches. Step away from the keyboard man - you are embarassing yourself. You miserable liberal you.

I'm ANGRT about "mega-churches"!!!! OOOOhhhh they make me so ANGRY!!!! hahahahahahaha great.

Oh and axis. Glad to see your socialist roots. Thanks for translating "eh?" into "huh?" for your southern neighbors. Too funny.

Nah, only leftists are concerned with materialism...we Christians know

So Mark are you saying no leftists are Christians? Mmmm...it keeps getting nuttier and nuttier the lower Bush's approval rating gets!

And it might be noted that the largest, most ornate edifices in my community are.....churches. Guess someone values riches, eh Marker?

That is an absurd statement of yours - who wouldn't tell the truth to an anonymous phone caller taking a poll?

NSA wiretaps, but of course!

-- Thats rich, its you on the right that are always getting your hand caught in the cookie jar, lying, cheating and stealing. Its also the right that always wants to rape, pillage and steal to make a buck.

Not to mention your "Christian" Catholic corporation is the biggest and richest in the entire world.

No Mark, sorry but the story that conservatives are going around with tin cups selling pencils is not credible one eyeota

Nah, only leftists are concerned with materialism...we Christians know that where our treasure is, so is our heart...we value money as little as dust, because that is what it is.

While you on the left are using envy and hatred to advance your cause, we on the right are just having a good time.

New housing starts here in Butler county Ohio is huge. go to Liberty Township, Westchester, west side of Hamilton and look at all the new business and new homes. The last 3 years has seen unbelievable growth. They had to put in a new expressway to connect Hamilton with I-75, add 3 new Super Wal-Mart's, well 4 if you include the one over by the Cincinnati Mills Mall, a brand new shopping Center at Rt 129 and 747 that has a JC Penny, Kohl's, Best Buy, Target etc etc etc that just opened up They are also adding brand new shopping at I-75 and the new connectors from all the new homes. There is dozens and dozens of new resaurants in the area that are national chains coming in, along with the ones with a local flair. We love the Red Robin, Don Pablos, and Smokey Bones, Champs, and looking forward to trying all the rest.

Bottom line, these are people who are part of that 68% I put the road names and city names in so you can go look for yourself. TEO cannot dispute the results well he can, but that would be just chatter.

Rico, etc., I have come to dismiss all, or nearly all, of what TEO says because of his track record of spouting knee-jerk radical leftist cant. I simply get tired of the Left explaining to us, from their positions of what they clearly regard as the Moral High Ground, all that is wrong with America.

I'm tired of hearing Christianity bashed and ridiculed, not to mention totally mischaracterized. I don't see sneering comments on Islam, or Judaism, much less analyses of the religion of the new political liberalism, which depends as much as any traditional religion on simple belief in the unproven.

I'm tired of the old trick of pulling out one or two of the worst examples of Christianity or conservatism and then holding them up as examples of the entire mass of those who really represent the whole. That is like us going to TEO's house and dragging poor crazy Uncle Arthur out of the attic and then saying "well, now we know all we need to know about TEO".

We want honest debate. That is, discussion on ISSUES. We have had some, such as exchange of ideas on ways to improve the voting procedure, or how to approach the illegal immigration problem. But the path is cluttered by the inanaties of the radicals who have come, uninvited, to the site to spew worn-out radical talking points and attacks on all that is not them, while making no contribution whatsoever to the debate.

We get it, guys. We get it that you hate Bush, think Americans are shallow silly materialists, hate Bush, think the war is immoral/illegal, hate Bush, think every other country is better than this one, hate Bush, think Fox (because it has viewpoints from more than one side) is a conservative mouthpiece, hate Bush, despise Christianity and Christians, hate Bush, think the "rich" should be slammed for being more productive than you are, hate Bush.....we get it.

But you are in a small minority. Even most Democrats don't agree with you. While we understand that that is why your tantrums are so strident, we also understand that you have nothing of value to bring to the table. Not a single idea, not a single perspective, not a single thing of value. You are the negativists. You hate. You snipe. You sneer. But you do not contribute.

So continue polluting this blog, if you must. After all, when that's all you are capable of doing, I guess that's all you can/will do. But just do it knowing that you are no more than gnat-like annoyances, yip-yapping ankle biters. When and if you ever have something of value to say, go ahead. I won't be holding my breath.

Paul,

Ofcourse building has been at an all time high, interest rates are at an all time low. What does the correlation of all-time high personal debt and all-time low savings say about the spending habits of Americans?

Only in America can you find a special interest group like the credit card companies get a bill so obviously made for them, because they take stupid risks and loan money to people they know can't pay it back, then they get their pound of flesh over the course of 10-20 in garnished wages...yeah that has got to be healthy, bankruptcies and foreclosures at all time highes, who exactly is cashing in on this economic boom?

Almiranta,

For being such gnat-like annoyances and yippy ankle biters, you sure do break out the big rhetoric guns for us. It seems if you would spend less time having to justify your silly positions, you could spend more time in your positive feedback circle-jerks.

I don't rally care what you think about me, you have no clue what my story is, nor do you care I assume. But the more you bitch and moan, the more we will be here to slap you around with facts you ignore.

In reference to your diatribe on religions I don't care what or who you believe in, but I won't accept your belief in myth to overrule reality; so go transubstantiate some wine and chill the hell out. Americans are not going to fight anymore of your stupid wars for resources, we are not going to allow you to enrich the upper 10 percent on the backs of everyone else, and we will not stand by and let you re-write history. Bush and his ilk will be looked at with distaste from now until the world ends, because barbarians always have the same fate...failure.

Peace!

Ofcourse building has been at an all time high, interest rates are at an all time low.

OMG he gets it Bet you was a huggggggggggge fan of Jimmy Carter, when interest rates was at an all time high - my first home in 1979 was at 15.75% 10 points higher than it is now. Interest rates on homes is the lowest EVER on Bush's watch. lower rates = lower mortgage payments = more money in your pocket every month.

I will give you one thing, there are people who are hurting out there, but the one thing they have in common ( for the most part ) is that they depend on the Goverment to take care of their every need, where the rest of all, depend on ourselves.

P.S. Jimmy Carter was the sole reason I left the Democrat party back in 1980 That President was a total and complete idiot, and he hasn't change one iota from that in 25 years. Jimmy got a lot of us to switch here in Ohio, Ohio used to be 100% Democrat controlled when I was in that party, we are now 100% Republican. Well maybe 80% as Taft is a RINO

Paul, if you switched from democrattically minded to conservative minded because of one dumb democratic president that served for a single term, you weren't very committed.

Polital flavor in states are always changing. Many republican red states were once blue states and then before that they were red.

Beyond the die-hard partisan voters that always vote either red or blue no matter what, most people will commit to voting for the party that they believe will best serve their interests.

At the moment and for the past 5 years, the Republicans have NOT been looking after the interests of their voters, aside from the richest 1% in America. Because of this, a good percentage of Republican have become dis-illusioned with their party as it has been infected with Neo-Conservative elements now controlling the White House and most of congress. Neo-Conservatives and traditional conservatives have VERY different ideals and most traditionals are unhappy to see this BIG government party, allowing government to intrude on their lives, allowing out of control debt and spending.

At the moment, many have lost confidence in their party and it is ripe for democrats to make a big showing in red states by showing that they are there to serve the PEOPLE, not the billion $$$ corporations and the richest 1%

The democrats really need to speak up and get their message out so people know that they are a better alternative to "2 more years of the same", and they will very shortly which will have a definite effect on the political climate.

Make no mistake about it, the Neo-Cons are doing a great dis-service to the GOP and it will leave a bad taste in many voters mouths for years to come after Bush leaves office