Could we please stop pretending that the Democrats are a legitimate political faction and start treating them as the criminal gang that they really are?

If they have no jobs, they will not come. The system is corrupt and controlled by the corportists for their own wealth accumulation. Peace

Leslie, I already have. The only problem is that the drive-by media and academia treat the donks as royalty. We have an uphill climb...

Pleazzzzze...

Can we get a little more obvious with the Republican attempts to screw with peoples right to vote?

You schmucks know you are going to lose and that you can't win an election fairly so you are pulling out the stops to keep democrats from the polls.

We all know this has nothing to do with ID'ing voters at the polls, that is regularly done anyways, this is about requiring a new special voter ID card be purchased knowing that many people wont be able to get it or wont know about it on time.

Its not going to work, voters on onto your crooked and stolen elections and you might scare a few away, but not us all.

tick..tock...tick...tock -- 6 months until a democrat house majority begins investigations and begins articles of impeachment against the EX-CON President Bush and EX-CON VP Dick Cheney...

Axis you are a political moron. 67 votes in the Senate dimwit, never get it. You think southern Democrats will vote for Impeachment. You are a fool.

Of course they are against it. They accuse Republicans of voter fraud with absolutely no proof whatsoever. Then a bill like this comes up and Democrats are absolutely against it.

Remember one vote one person. Everyone knows why they are against it. As a 8 year citizen of Milwaukee (until recently) I can tell you why. Because same day registration with NO PROOF is all about the Democrat way to cheat their ass off.

All their other excuses are 100% garbage.

Even their own abortion bills require the girls/women to prove their age.

They are scared deeply that this will pass. State by state it will.

We all know this has nothing to do with ID'ing voters at the polls, that is regularly done anyways, this is about requiring a new special voter ID card be purchased knowing that many people wont be able to get it or wont know about it on time.

axis,

My wife is our elected Township Clerk. One of her duties is to run the elections within the Township (population about 9,000). I often work the elections for her when she need an additional election worker (but I can't work when she's on the ballot). As a Cadanian, what the hell do you know about how our elections are run, except from what you hear from the left-leaning MSM? I know how they are run, as I frequently work the elections.

A voter ID has absolutely nothing to do with "screwing with the right to vote". It has everything to do with preventing fraud. Many of the voters in our Township are willing to provide an ID when they vote, but currently they do not have to. We just compare their application to vote with the voter registration files. We don't have their signatures readily available, so we don't even check that.

A new voter has to prove residency and their identity when they register to vote, so why is it a big deal to prove their identity when they vote. They could use a driver's license, military ID, college student ID, or a specifically issued voter ID. Proof of citizenship could easily be added to driver's licenses upon renewal and within 3-4 years, everyone with a driver's license would also have the eligibility to vote indicated. With a majority of the population with driver's licenses, this would take care of most of the voters. The rest could be issued a voter ID from their municipal clerk. Its not a big deal. It wouldn't cost much. And it could be phased in over several years.

What the Dems are worried about is losing the dead voters, the felony voters, the multiple voters, and the illegal alien voters. Without them, they stand to lose millions of votes nation-wide.

axis...

I live in the San Diego area.....and sincerely hope this shows the Busby supporters..the women is a flaming idiot.. when the man stated he had no docs she should have immediately stated "well then you shouldn't really be in this country should you" then again that would be asking too much..

Lastly axis... In California it is against the law to ask for ID... in one election not too long ago I went to vote... they have a list... you sign by your name.....but again no ID...

When the woman was thumbing through the list I happened to see my middle step daughter had voted.. That was a problem... she was in Italy..

I recognized the signature..it was her sister's signature..who wasn't 18...

When she got home that evening I informed (actually ripped her a new a$$hole) her, she is lucky I don't report both her and her sister for voter fraud............

and by the way ..you've made allegations of republicans stealing elections..please provide verifiable proof of such..please provide verifiable links to said cedible data...

or are you speaking out the ol' backside as usual.

This election is over. The Demorat candidate will lose. Wait till talk radio pounces on this one. I think the Demorats are in trouble for advocating voter fraud and illegal votes. This coupled with the marriage amendment, the Se-(nut) immigration bill, the break up of a terror cell in Canada (with possible U.S. ties to 2 terrorists in Georgia) and the lack of a positive agenda will hurt the Demorats come November.

Finally, the unemployment rate is very low.

Please cite proof of actual voter fraud conducted by Republicans, or President Bush. Several posters have requested this, and I see none of the smarty pants who post here can cite anything.

17 Terror Suspects just arrested in Toronto.

I guess we won't be hearing from Axis for awhile. Either that or he is just plain sad on these arrests.

http://www.breitbart.com/news/2006/06/03/D8I0QCG80.html

Axis must be in mourning. Canada nabbed 12 of his fellow jihadists. What were your terrorist buddies gonna do with that 3 tons of ammonium nitrate?

Warriornation, CJ

The mounties got their men. Nice work!! Canadian Mounted Police rock. Hope we do not hear anymore anti-Mountie rants.

Never said a word about the "Mounties."

Congrats to the Mounties. I'm a pro law-enforcement guy.

I just don't care for ignorant canucks.

Guys, stop feeding axis of dumbassery; he's just repeating the latest talking points he heard on (DN)C-Span. Nothing he posts is ever original; he's a girly-man parrot who would look absolutely devine in a hemp necktie...

Warriornation

The thing is, Mounties are canucks. So if you want to call canucks ignorant you have to make exceptions, eh?

Tina, talk radio already pounced on Busby. I heard the, "You don't need papers for voting.” yesterday. What a fraud! Unbelievable.

You don't need to be alive to vote for the Democratic ticket, being a convected felon is fine, and being illegal is ok too. Just can't have you vote if you are in the military.

Good work north of the BOARDER.

Axis,

You were saying earlier that Canadians are loved and are welcomed anywhere in the world. Well, even with all of Canada's constant anti-war tripe, the jihadis still want you dead. Osama bin Laden labeled Canada as a "Christian nation". Wake up before some jihadis actually succeed in blowing up Canadians.

17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto

"Seventeen Canadian residents were in custody Saturday on terrorism- related charges, including plots to use explosives in attacks on Canadian soil, authorities said. [..]

"This group took steps to acquire three tons of ammonium nitrate and other components necessary to create explosive devices," said assistant Royal Canadian Mounted Police commissioner Mike McDonell said. [..]

The newspaper said they had trained at a camp north of Toronto and had plotted to attack CSIS's downtown office near the CN Tower, among other targets. [..]

The Canadian anti-terrorism law was passed swiftly following the Sept. 11 assaults, particularly after Osama bin-Laden's named Canada one of five so-called Christian nations that should be targeted for acts of terror. The others, reaffirmed in 2004 by his al-Qaida network, were the United States, Britain, Spain and Australian, all of which have been victims of terrorist attacks. [..]

Intelligence officials believe at least 50 terror groups now have some presence in the North American nation and have long complained that the country's immigration laws and border security are too weak to weed out potential terrorists.

I think we should just shoot all the Democraps, then we'd be safe from terrorists

No C.O., I don't consider Mounties ignorant. I consider liberal mounties ignorant just as I consider liberal canucks ignorant.

Hopefully that clarifies things.

Ayaan Hirsi Ali: Freedom Fighter
Philadelphia Inquirer: (6/01/06)

"You need talk only briefly with Hirsi Ali, or read The Caged Virgin - a crisp, very clear indictment of Islamic misogyny mixed with autobiographical scenes and reflections about her own liberation - to understand that the lady pulls no punches. This is not Rodney King and “Can’t we all just get along?” Not “We respect Islam and, hey, everyone has a few bad apples.”

Hirsi Ali aims at Islam’s heart. She insists that the beliefs and life of Islam’s prophet, Muhammad, must be confronted, analyzed, and, in many respects, rejected.

“If 1.2 billion to 1.5 billion abide by, follow his rules,” Hirsi Ali observes, “and say we want to be like him, then I think it’s urgent, it’s necessary.”[..] “He borrowed a little bit from Judaism,” she says, “he borrowed a little bit from Christianity, and he invented some things, especially the fierceness with which he dealt with his enemies, the killing, the way he violated special tribal rules.” [..]

Her own view, however, is that “following this man [Muhammad] can lead to only one thing, fascism... .”

Hirsi Ali says she decided to confront Muhammad’s history after Nigerian Muslims rioted over the planned 2002 Miss World contest there. A British-educated Nigerian journalist poured fuel on the fire by writing that Muhammad himself would have married one of the contestants. The rioting killed 200 people. [..]

True to her gloves-off approach, Hirsi Ali talked about how Muhammad, who had nine wives, fell in love with his wife Aisha when she was 6 and married her when she was 9. Hirsi Ali outraged Dutch Muslims by accusing Muhammad of pedophilia.
*******

Note: The reporter should have said that Muhammad married Aisha when she was 6 and had sex with her at age 9. Muhammad was then 54 years old.

Sahih Bukhari Volume 7, Book 62, Number 64
Narrated 'Aisha:
that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death).

Canadian Terror Suspects Demand Korans

PIX: Canadian women dressed in burkas. (No folks, this isn't the Middle East, it is indeed Canada.)

Hey..axis.
Let's make a deal!!!
After the butt whipping that the Democraps are going to get in Nov.,you have to promise never to post on this site again..Deal????
Rofl!! Actually, I take that back..we like having you around..for amusement..

LOL, I never said we were free of religious kooks, only that we don't go around poking the bear in the face with a stick then whining when it mauls you.

That fact that 17 people were picked up by CSIS only shows that they are on the ball. Whens the last time you picked up some suspects in the USA, since the FBI said there are "thousands" of sleeper cells in there...

Wheres osama freedom1 and warrior? How about the anthrax killer? Where he? Wheres abu al-zarqawi? Why has none of these jokers been captured by your tough on terror EX-CON president?

Now, as to this topic, the reason is is designed to prevent people from voting is that the will require them to take an action in order to be able to continue to vote.

This is basically the same as saying that you must have a US passport in order to vote, since they know only 20% of americans actually have one and that would mean that a lot of people would not get to vote.

That aside, we also do not trust those in government. There has been documented vote fraud in past elections by Republicans, so there is no guarantee that voter ID applications would be any different. Nothing preventing government from say, delaying or misplacing applications from a certain state or certain people, say blacks who vote 88% democratic.

Now, say you work on a bill requiring that one needs to show photo ID at voting time, that would be a different story.

This is like florida stopping the wonams league of voters from registering voters like they have for the past 67 years by passing a law fining them 5000 for every voter application not filed within 10 days of being filled out.

As for jacks comments re: impeachment, after house impeaches with full evidence of serious wrongdoing, it will likely be up to republicans to do the tiebreaking. If bush does not resign first, which he would likely do rather than risk being convicted and then indicted once out of office. But if not, they would need to choose because if they refused to oust a corrupt and proven lawbreaking president, it will cost them big time in the next election, so they would likely choose to err on the side of caution and vote yes and hope the next republican leader could restore the party's good name before the next election.

17 Terror Suspects Arrested in Toronto

Thank god for domestic spying, eh guys!!!

Busby spilled the REAL game plan for her campaign:

get out the vote, the ILLEGAL VOTE.

Remeber those signs in LA?

"Today we march tomorrow we VOTE"

They weren't just symbolic, and they're not waiting to be legalized. With the aid of Democrats why bother?

Axis Powers,

"Whens the last time you picked up some suspects in the USA, since the FBI said there are "thousands" of sleeper cells in there..."

March. I guess you didn't read the Canadian terrorism article.

Speaking of sleeper cells, Germany’s domestic security agency, the Verfassungsschutz, estimates that there are more than 32,000 Islamist Extremists in Germany.

"Today we march tomorrow we VOTE"- phnxbmed

I wondered at the time if Democrats wrote those signs for the demonstrations. It'd fit their M.O.

Axis...step away from the bong. By the way, folks, I just read Kennedy's "election fraud" article in Rolling Stone. Hahahaha! What a weak-ass pile of garbage. Nothing but a re-hashing of all the previous conspiracies, which have all been thoroughly discredited. I sure hope he campaigns for Dems all over the country. Please, Robert, do that for us, will ya?

March. I guess you didn't read the Canadian terrorism article.

-- Wow, that was six months ago. How about all the other "thousands" of sleeper cells you have in the USA right now.

Actually, CSIS did things legally and obtaining warrants for the surveillance, which is what you should have done.

We do it like that so we can actually prosecute people, something illegal wiretaps can't be used for. Illegally obtained evidence is not admissable in trials.

Axis

You're kidding right? You're jihadist buddies were caught using "illegal" means, at least in the far left wing kook fringe minds. Check out all the "illegal" ways they were spied on. Maybe now you can get your friends out of jail.

CJ, I think you've been sucking on a little of keefers left over mustard gas.

Theres no mention of any illegal means or surveillance in that article at all and theres no indication of anything of the kind.

Everything was done legally and within the laws, which is why it is possible to lay charges against them.

Your government on the other hand, uses ILLEGAL means to uncover suspects and then must send them to secret prisons with no due process because they can't prosecute them in court. If the courts rule on their ability to lock people away without charge or due process and rule it unconstitutional, you are hooped and you will have to let these terrorists go free because you have nothing legal to prosecute them in court with.

So your tough on terror ways is going to result in many going free because you sent about it in the wrong way

Axis,

The Mounties did a great job. But now its up to the Canadian legal system. My bet is that the majority will be freed, and some will end up suing the government and winning. Seems like your judges are to the left of ours socialist activists on the bench.

BTW: Your intelligence serivces use our government to spy on you. So don't be so self righteous.

Uh, whoever posted the comment about shooting all the DemocRATs? Nice try, but it wasn't me. The capital "K" in "keefer," along with your IP address, gives you away.

Mark, I hope you realize that someone is spoofing me. I'd accuse axis of dumbassery, but he's too stupid to write two sentences without totally raping the king's English, so I doubt his dumb arse is capable of spoofing.

Yeah, axis of dumbassery, it's funny how some dumbassed Canadian can come here, post talking points, and write as yourself, and claim that I sniffed mustard gas. You must frequent the same shooting gallery as your fellow Canuck, CO...

keefer

I didn't think you would condone killing all Democrats. It just didn't sound like something you would say. Thanks for clearing that up. You seem like a level-headed, fair-minded individual, open to differing opinions. Not one to jump to conclusions or resort to name-calling.

All of us kookie lefties are enthralled by your intelligent, well thought out posts. Keep up the good work.

The Mounties did a great job. But now its up to the Canadian legal system. My bet is that the majority will be freed, and some will end up suing the government and winning. Seems like your judges are to the left of ours socialist activists on the bench.

-- phnxbmed, actually its been a failing in the legislation that has been a part of the problem. The previous liberal government passed legislation to lessen the sentence that a judge could impose, thus tying their hands in many cases. This was a left over from the Cretien years as he did not want overpopulated prisons so they also brought in conditional sentences where the prisoner could serve his time at home with one of those radio anklets.

The new conservative government has a tougher policy on crime, which is a good thing but it makes up for a failing of the liberal one.

Good heavens. Someone impersonating keefer. Just when you thought you had seen it all...

The only thing you're enthralled by, CO, comes in a baggie...

keefer

You need to stop this obsession with drugs. It reflects badly on your upstanding character. If you need help, I am sure the US has many facilities in that category that would be more than happy to accomodate you. I'm sure you can lick this problem. Good luck.

I agree with author that every effort should be made make sure elections are fair and open. Those that try to subvert them directly or indirectly should be given the harshest treatment including jail time and automatic forfeiture of their elected posts. We should make sure that scoundrels that would do so are given no quarter. Our efforts to find these miscreants should be relentless and vigilant. In a democracy this cannot be a partisan issue.

Seems that the Toronto arrests resulted from the April arrest of two Muslims from Atlanta that attended the training camp in Toronto. The FBI (rember them?) tipped off the Canadians to the connection:

"The Canadian roundup resulted from an investigation that came to light in late April when two Georgians were arrested (by the FBI) on terrorism-related charges. The two were accused of traveling to Toronto in 2005 to meet "like-minded extremists" and plot possible terror attacks."

Stuff that in your pipe axis of stupidity.

What a mess the CA 50th District is. First, Duke Cunningham resigns in disgrace and ends up in jail. Then the former front runner, Howard Kaloogian, gets nailed for running pictures of Baghdad on his web site (intending to show how peaceful and bucolic a place it is) that turn out to be Istanbul. And now it appears Brian Bilbray, the Republican candidate, may not actually live in the District! Virginia tax records show he claims two homes there -- one in Alexandia and one in Imperial Beach -- as his primary residence. If that's true, then it's a very clear, very serious case of vote fraud. And if it's not true, and he really is a CA resident (he claims he's living with his mom, despite the fact that he owns two houses in VA), then I wonder if he paid CA incoome taxes last year. I don't know if anyone's asked the tax question yet (the residency question just broke a few days ago). But either way, this guy sounds like another scandal waiting to happen.

axis says, with a typical lack of fact,
"this is about requiring a new special voter ID card be purchased knowing that many people wont be able to get it or wont know about it on time."

Except no ID has to be purchased, and no one can be taken by surprise if it is part of the registration process. And only axis can "know" something that is not true.

So yes, your voter fraud folks might not know about it if they never registered. Which is kind of the idea.

Remember, Hillary whined and shrieked and shouted about "DISENFRANCHISEMENT !!!!!!!!!!!" after the 2004 election, because THERE WERE NOT ENOUGH TRANSLATORS AT THE POLLS. Think that over for a sec. Not enough translators? To be naturalized, you have to pass an English proficiency exam. So why, exactly, are non-English-speakers voting? No, Hill was speaking DemCode for letting illegals vote.

I live in a small community. The woman who checks me in when I vote lives four houses down from me. She greets me by name. But I have to show a legal ID to vote.

I suggest that in the next election, legitimate voters sue the voting commission for DISENFRANCHISEMENT if there is a hint that anyone voted illegally. Because an illegal voter is probably a Democrat, which means my vote was cancelled out, or stolen, which means I was DISENFRANCHISED. No, the word does not apply just to minorities.

Get some court cases going, and the voting precincts will start to play CYA, which in this case means demanding proof of identity and registration before allowing anyone to vote.

"The Canadian roundup resulted from an investigation that came to light in late April when two Georgians were arrested (by the FBI) on terrorism-related charges. The two were accused of traveling to Toronto in 2005 to meet "like-minded extremists" and plot possible terror attacks."

Stuff that in your pipe axis of stupidity.

-- Gee, sounds like its YOUR terrorists from the USA that you have loose and free that are coming over here to mess with young peoples heads. Fancy that, an american problem spilling over into canada.

Except no ID has to be purchased, and no one can be taken by surprise if it is part of the registration process. And only axis can "know" something that is not true.

And what of the already registered voters? They would need to fill out special paperwork to get the ID cards.

Have a look here at a state that has moved in this direction:

Quote: "Secretary of State Rebecca Vigil-Giron said last week that her office has been flooded with phone calls from voters complaining about mistakes on the new, plastic voter ID cards."

Quote: "Vigil-Giron said the most common mistakes were things such as a wrong address or birth date. She said in some cases, ID cards were mailed to people who have died."

Quote: "And, as is usually the case, government officials engaged in cross-jurisdictional finger-pointing as to the cause of the problem. The Secretary of State's office blames the county clerks, the clerks blame the state."

Sounds like a major boondoggle, something that should be decided LONG before elections come to allow sorting of problems.

Rico,

Using the old Democrat tactic of switching the focus to confuse the issue? Nice try but no sale.

According to California law, anyone who is eligible to vote in California may run for office. In order to be eligible to vote you can register anytime up to 14 days prior to the election. The residency requirement amounts to at least one day prior to registration.

So once again, nice try but you and the Koskids fall short of creating controversy where there is none.

But apparently you have no problem with Busby encouraging illegals to vote and help in the campaign, both of which are FELONIES.

"'March. I guess you didn't read the Canadian terrorism article.' -- Wow, that was six months ago."

No, jerk-off, March was only 3 months ago.

My God, Axis, you may well be the stupidest poster on the entire Internet.

"-- Gee, sounds like its YOUR terrorists from the USA that you have loose and free that are coming over here to mess with young peoples heads. Fancy that, an american problem spilling over into canada" axis

Let's review:

1. Muslim fanatic terrorist wannabees living in Atlanta travel to Canada to get TRAINING from Canadian terrorists.

2. The FBI gets wind of this, arrests the Atlanta based fanatic terrorist wannabees in April 2006. Note that the FBI and the Bush administration didn't make a big press release to score points in the press, because they wanted to take down the WHOLE gang not just a few wannabees.

3. The FBI tips off the Canadian Mounties to the training camps in April of this year, causing the Mounties to set up survailance on the group.

4. The information providfed by the FBI, an agency of the US government, leads to the arrest of 17 home grown CANADIAN terrorist with 3 tons of explosives destined to destroy public sites in Toronto.

Can that be any more clear for you?

You can thank us (That's the USA) anytime now for saving your smarmy arses, but we won't hold our breath.

"Gee, sounds like its YOUR terrorists from the USA that you have loose and free that are coming over here to mess with young peoples heads. Fancy that, an american problem spilling over into canada."

No, Axis, sounds more like you'll tell ANY lie, no matter how big, as long as it defames the U.S. Truth is that Canada has a home grown Islamo-fascist problem that won't be defeated by appeasement:

"They are young, militant and Canadian. And according to senior counterterrorism authorities, they have been plotting large-scale terrorist attacks on Canadian soil.

"The Canadian Security Intelligence Service acknowledged this week it has been investigating groups of 'homegrown' extremists. In candid testimony to the Senate national security committee, [Jack Hooper, the CSIS Deputy Director of Operations] went on to say that these young followers of the 'al-Qaeda ideology' have been plotting against targets within Canada….

"The exact targets of these young terrorists were not revealed, but it is their profile that is most shocking: young Canadian Muslims who have somehow become radicalized while growing up in Canada.

"They are 'homegrown.' In other words, they have emerged from within Canada, rather than infiltrating it from abroad. They are insiders, not outsiders like Millennium Bomber Ahmed Ressam, who was behind Canada's last major terrorism scare in 1999.

"'Increasingly, we are learning of more and more extremists that are homegrown,' says a declassified CSIS report obtained by the National Post. 'The implications of this shift are important….'

"A Canadian Jihad is apparently underway…."

Source: http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/story.html?id=8ef8514e-3fa2-44e2-83ee-6073a8e6ea19&p=1

No, Axis, sounds more like you'll tell ANY lie, no matter how big, as long as it defames the U.S. Truth is that Canada has a home grown Islamo-fascist problem that won't be defeated by appeasement

Doesn't sound like a lie, read the passage again and again and again until you understand it. For your convenience, I have boldfaced the relevent portions. The article is clearly stating that AMERICANS crossed into Canada to spread their radicalism.

"The Canadian roundup resulted from an investigation that came to light in late April when two Georgians were arrested (by the FBI) on terrorism-related charges. The two were accused of traveling to Toronto in 2005 to meet "like-minded extremists" and plot possible terror attacks."

"They are young, militant and Canadian. And according to senior counterterrorism authorities, they have been plotting large-scale terrorist attacks on Canadian soil.

-- Indeed, Americans crossing into canada to corrupt canadians with their radicalism. Exactly what I stated above. The problem in this article STARTED and was only made possible because of AMERICANS coming into canada to spread their radicalism.

If you had caught them earlier, like you should have, then that would not even be possible. This problem was an FBI failing that we now have helped to clean up. We don't mind cleaning up your messes, you make so many, its hard to clean them all up yourselves.

"read the passage again and again and again until you understand it."

Re-read the passage yourself, you lying idiot. It expressly states that the 2 Americans traveled to Toronto in 2005 "to meet 'like-minded extremists.'" Are you saying that there are no Canadians in Toronto? And that none of these "like-minded extremists" in Toronto were Canadians? To the contrary, the article I cited expressly states that the Canadian terrorists are "home-grown."

Your idiocy is tiresome.

"Your idiocy is tiresome." Posted by: JPL

Tell me about! Dealing with Axis who makes up BS all day long is getting ridiculous.

I am saying that Americans came to canada and TAUGHT canadians moron.

You allow your terrorists to run free, teaching their radicalism and hate to impressionable muslims. Your real war on terror begins by rooting it from your homeland, something you have totally ignored since being in Iraq.

Axis

Sounds to me more like horrible American terrorists that want to get out of the USA because they know they are being watched. So why not go to Canada where they will be left alone and appeased until they strike.

You liberals are so naive. History has shown it throughout, but you just coming back for more.

Neville Chamberlain would be proud.

History has also shown that those that take freedom and democracy for granted and cease remaining vigilant against those that seek to take it away are always the first to go.

Soon, you won't have to worry, Bush is taking all your freedoms and democracy away so you don't have to worry about it getting lost.

Selective quoting...

There should be a factcheck article on this really soon. I believe that she misspoke about not needing papers to vote because of the sheer stupidity to say that where it could be recorded.

You missed the full quote, where she added: "...you don't need to be a registered voter to help.”

Which is entirely true. Back in 2004, I had just turned 18 by the time of the election, and a friend of mine was only 17, and thusly could not vote. She still wanted to help out with George W. Bush's campaign (no she doesn't see him as a good president, but better than Kerry would have been), so she actively campaigned.

You guys seem to forget that people under the age of 18 still want to help out with political campaigns and are actually an indispensible asset to grassroots campaigns.

Though they will never say it, all politicians support voter fraud when it benefits them. That's why most accusations aren't followed up on (except crazy instances like the slashing of tires). It's sad, but politicians aren't the most honorable of people.

Frawg,

As long as your 17 year old friend was not an illegal alien it was OK for her to help in a campaign, but not vote. It is a felony for ALIENS illegal or otherwise to help or contribute to political campaigns in the US. Remember Johnny Tre, the Budhist temple fund raiser, the Chinese and Indonesian connection of Slick Willie?

I think it was Charlie Trie and Johnny Chung.

Axis

Yeah, I just feel my freedoms shooting out the door. Last I checked, I can no longer plot to blow up people here or talk to my Al Queda friends in Iraq.

Exactly what else am I missing out on my freedoms? I don't notice a damn thing of difference.

phnxbmed said: "According to California law, anyone who is eligible to vote in California may run for office. In order to be eligible to vote you can register anytime up to 14 days prior to the election. The residency requirement amounts to at least one day prior to registration."

Prompted by your comment I looked it up. It turns out the requirements for candidacy are even more lax than you describe them -- and certainly more so than I thought they were. It appears that no state has the ability to preclude a candidate for the federal House of Representatives on the basis of prior residency. The only stipulation is that they inhabit the state at the time of the election. In fact, as far as residency requirements go (which turns out to be 39 days in CA, not 14), voter registration requirements are constitutionally allowed to be more stringent than the residency required of a candidate -- apparently, you can be a candidate in a state even if you fail to fulfill their voter registration requirements!

Anyway, I withdraw my statement.

Rico,

Withdrawl accepted.
Very noble jesture BTW.

Random assortment of letters-

She was a citizen... actually, though it is illegal (in Cali.) for aliens to give or solicit monies for political purposes, they can help out in non-monetary ways.

They were talking about it on TV (FOX NEWS I think).