Would that be the heroin addict Robert Kennedy Junior?

Matt-

Is it safe to assume that you won't cry "Foul!" if the Republicans lose that house and/or the senate?

I think that it is safe to say that the election is still very much a toss-up.

Matt,

I think the Democrats are way off base on this issue. Everyone I've ever met from Ohio has been a moron. It only stands to reason that they would vote for Dubya.
"People get the government they deserve."

I don't know about the DNC or Kennedy's ideas about election fraud, but i would be happy with more basic concessions, such as a system with FULLY tracked and paper-backed voting records, seems like a pretty basic question, one that Diebold (a republican run company) seems to think are just too much of a hassle, atleast here in florida, to take care of. Do you think its too much to ask for some basic semblance of record keeping that is verifiable and tamper-proof?

On your second comment regarding IDs, I don't know how i feel about that idea, it has the stink of "National ID" all over it, i'd hate to wake up one day and find out for "convenience" my medical records, SS information, and any number of other "vitals" are stored on a single smart-chip card, how far before we are being RFid for our own good? But we can't ignore the problem that many people are wrongly turned away, and many are illegally voting aswell, But when you start requiring information from people who can't provide it, such as people who are still trying to put lives back together after Katrina or the poor who dont have any access to federally mandated forms of ID are at an unfair advantage when trying to exercise their right to vote, basically a 21st century poll tax, so how do we find a way to make sure that people can retain their right to vote, without being unduly weighted with federal expectations and requirements.

This was actually an excellent article and was extremely well documented and investigated showing a great many, many irregularities and widespread malfeasance.

I might add that there have been a number of convictions so far of crooked voting officials in numerous states connected to the 2004 election.

2000 was stolen by a crooked Kathy Harris in Florida stopping the recounts. But 2004 was even worse.

Not to worry though, we are slower on the uptake to your crooked Republicans that can only win by rigging elections with crooked voting machines and corrupt voting officials, but we are catching on and you won't be able to get away with it for much longer.

lefties intentionally ignore the fact that, here in Ohio, the BI-PARTISAN county election boards control the elections.

not Darth Blackwell, nor Evil Genius/Felon Rove, nor Gov Barney Fife Taft.

so if minorities were "disenfranchized", the dems were in on the fix...for W.

did I mention my 4th grader sucessfully voted using my punch-card ballot. all she did was...

...(drumroll, please)...FOLLOW THE POSTED DIRECTIONS which even had PICTURES!!!

good job sweetie (:>))

I Still Can't Get Over The Fact That We can't Govern Like We Won in 2004...

Hey Orrin,

Cuyahoga County has an inverse relationship between voter turnout and support for Kerry. In Parma, precint 6450 the turnout was 94%. 40% of the voters left the presidential candidate blank, according to county records.

"There are 92,000 spoiled punchcards, because voters were given the wrong type of pen to mark the optiscan ballots, and some precincts were given a different weight of punchcard which did not read as well as recommended weight."

Source: Counselor Petroikas (sp) Election Protection Attorney in Ohio on Election day as he told Cliff Kelley on public affairs program in Chicago WVAZ-FM 6-8 CST Sunday, November 14, 2004.

"Franklin County's unofficial results had Bush receiving 4,258 votes to Democrat John Kerry's 260 votes in a precinct in Gahanna. Records show only 638 voters cast ballots in that precinct. If there was malicious code inserted to take every 10th vote for Kerry and give it to Bush, and the programmer accidentally added Kerry's running total instead of 1 vote (B=B+K instead of B=B+1) to Bush, it would have produced exactly these results"

http://www.ideamouth.com/voterfraud.htm#OH

so, while we are very proud that you are raising a young lady who will no doubt use her voice in the discourse of America, her fellow citizens were denied theirs through fraud and outright theft...numbers don't lie, but politicians do!

axis, you lose yet again when you wrote: "2000 was stolen by a crooked Kathy Harris in Florida stopping the recounts. But 2004 was even worse."

Katherine Harris followed the letter of the law and the Supreme Court upheld it. So by your logic, the Supreme Court stole the election and are "crooked." Once again you show your complete and utter ignorance. Please do some research before you make any more assinine comments. Otherwise you are wasting our time and bandwidth.

so if minorities were "disenfranchized", the dems were in on the fix...for W.

yeah he sort of forgot that part, didnt he. Dems have become losers in more than one way. Ohio used to be 100% controlled by the Democrats, back when Democrats were not moonbats. Now Buckeye land is 100% Republican, hell, even our cows are smart enough not to go with a anti-american leftist as leadership.

Thank God for Butler and Hamilton country, we seen to it that Cleveland is a non-issue in Ohio politics

I know what I speak of I used to be a registared Democrat. I supported Celeste, Glenn and Metzenbaun back in the 80's Current crop of Democrat moonbat wanna be's is just that- moonbats

well 3d eye, then u'd agree that we're throwing taxpayer $$$ at "solutions" which r diff from the actual problems.

programmer errors, or fools in florida who can't be bothered to follow posted directions which my 4th grader could, require diff solutions.

perhaps we could agree that at some point each voter bears some responsibility to correctly fill-out the ballot.

after all, if the voter can't even vote on a 4th grade level, well...how does one solve "stupid"?

what is pathetic, matt, is that you did not address a SINGLE citation of evidence as presented in the article, not one single shred of evidence was challenged. let me repeat that - NOT ONE SINGLE SHRED.

its easy to lob partisan attacks over the fence, but it does nothing to undermine the facts as presented.

You know, maybe Robert Kennedy knows something the rest of us don't.

After all, his family has an intimate knowledge of stealing Presidential elections.

Maybe, while he is trying to stop use of alternate energy off in his backyard, Jimmy Hoffa gave him the heads-up about Ohio.

The possibilities are mind-boggling, moonbats.

Axis,

Cha-ching, another post; another few bucks.

SORE LOSERS, nothing more.

Yeah, I want a bunch of sore losers running this country that cannot except reality. No thanks.

Would that be the heroin addict Robert Kennedy Junior?
Posted by: CJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 2, 2006 10:01 AM

Or the cocaine addict and recovering alcoholic (though likely relapsed), George Bush....

"I Still Can't Get Over The Fact That We can't Govern Like We Won in 2004..."

Amen to that. This is number 12342302493 why I'm not a Republican. I'm conservative, but the GOP party drives me nuts.

Bloviator...do you have proof that Bush was a Cocaine addict? Can you share that PROOF with us?

Thanks, we will be waiting.

Orrin,

No you cant fix stupid, but you can mitigate the issues, what is so wrong with centralizing felon lists, making them purge automatically, nationwide, no guessing, no hold-ups?

We need to come together, get companies like Diebold out of the political process, we should not be "privatizing" things as important as the right to vote. I would argue we are the most crafty country in the world, we can come up with a nationally approved voting standard, something that doesn't include too much extra technology outside of pencil and paper.

For the rest of you guys, if you're so sure about your predictions that nothing happened in Ohio or Florida or utah, or any number of other states in 2004, wait till the Demopublicans have control of the house, and they start investigating your boys, im sure they will raise a whole bunch of interesting facts and figures...and make pie charts to boot!

noticed that third -eye didn't meantion any States like Michigan and Wisconsin for voter fraud

mucho interesting - loser

"slower on the uptake..."

This from AXIS. What a collossal idiot Axis is.

Hey canuck, why don't you read about the 1960 election. The 2000 election in New Mexico, Wisconsin, etc. 2004 in Wisconsin

Tammeny Hall

Daly Machine in Chicago

Please, you can't be this stupid...oh wait, yes you can.

And again, why are you clowns against VOTER ID's at the polls. Make it ONE vote per person. Last I checked it was the GOP that wants this, but you guys scream to high heaven about it because you know it will cut into your cheating ways.

1 person, 1 vote. If that ever is enforced in this country it's all over for you idiots.

well, he was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972, so there's that. and then of course, he's never denied it, and under persisent questioning resorted to saying he had not used it in the PAST SEVEN YEARS.

don't you think you should make the same evidentiary request of CJ based on his salacious accusations ?

Oh really....bloviator why is it that no documentation of this arrest can be found anywhere. Not by the respected press, etc, etc.

Why, pray tell, would Al Gore's campaign use the Drunk Driving issue 4 days before the election but wouldn't use this so called "KNOWN COCAINE ARREST".

Please, we would all love to hear this.

He was arrested for cocaine possession in '72? I thought he was AWOL in 1972. Now I'm confused, blomeator. Please clear this up for me...

These guys are now making stuff about Cocaine Arrests. They never stop, they simply never stop. It's the Clintoooon school of lying.

If Bush was arrested on cocaine charges it would have KILLED his Governor campaign, let alone his presidential campaign. Gore would have used. Kerry would have used it.

It simply didn't happen, but that doesn't stop these guys from lying their asses off anyway. Amazing and disgusting as usual.

yeah - apparently he was AWOL AND doing cocaine. don't see how the two are mutually exclusive actually. only seems to bolster the idea that he would have failed his drug tests miserably - better to jump ship (or plane)...

apparently - it was karl rove who tipped off hatfield about bush's arrest. but don't take my word for it:
http://www.spitfirelist.com/f319.html
starting at paragraph 8

Vero,

Nice to meet ya buddy, I look foward to making you look more ignorant that you've already made yourself out to be, cheers!

Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt; this especially applies to you, Third eye Blind. You've left quite a trail of stupid remarks in the past week.

Better to keep your mouth closed and be thought a fool than to open it and remove all doubt; this especially applies to you, Third eye Blind. You've left quite a trail of stupid remarks in the past week.

Glad to see I am not the only one thinking along those lines.

Kahn,

The only fools around here are the ditto-heads you invite to your little rhetorical circle-jerks.

It's Friday, drink a beer, relax, and let Vero stand up for himself, i'm sure he's quite capable.

Pathetic is an excellent discription Matt! As a matter of fact, I was so taken with such a thurough description that I didn't read the rest of the blog, SORRY! These guys here are just proving this description & I'm enjoying it! Keep it up blind eye, and blomilator, tis quite entertaining!

Bear,

I love it when you get fiesty, keep the champagne on ice, your Papa-Bear is comin' home and he needs his honey.

xoxoxo

What do you mean blind? You aint leavin me, I'm your papa errr....daddy(hope your female, I just can't stomach......well nevermind!)

Bloviator....your source is Spitfire.

Let us know when your source is CNN, FOX, ABC, Reuters, etc. Please, you cannot be this stupid. I'll pray for you

Bear,

I'm the hottest piece of Cuban-Italian beefcake you've ever seen, and ill rock you like Shaq in the paint, all elbows and sore feelings. *smooch*

This is one of my favorite pet theories because I can so convincingly blow the quivering bat**** out of it.

I was an election worker in Ohio in 2004. Every single polling place in Ohio is and was manned by an equal number of Democrats and Republicans that opened, validated, and closed every single voting machine.

I worked a district that went 60/40 for Bush and guess what...we had lines and delays too. Almost all day. People came back 2 and 3 times to vote and stood in line for sometimes almost two hours. Was it worse in some urban "black" districts? Yes. But those locations were kept open longer, and nearly everyone had to wait at some point or another.

As far as the exit polls, they were a complete joke. Our poller was a young college girl who literally had her face buried in a math book all day. She didn't approach a single person on her own all day, or really make any effort to go out of her way to talk to anyone. She might have polled a dozen people all day long...out of a voting location the combined three precincts in which thousands of people voted all day.

The RFK Jr. article is filled with fantasy and BS (most of its "sources" are liberal papers and opinion columns). They claim that urban precincts were stripped of voting machines and shipped to the Bush-friendly suburbs. Wrong. The precinct I worked was probably 90% white and we were slammed with more than an hour wait for nearly the entire day, closer to two for most of the late morning.

It even resorts to using Dennis Kucinich as a source, and throwing precious judicial rulings under the bus to try and make its point. Even more bizzarely, it points to differences in vote margins between the Presidential race and other statewide offices in rural areas as "proof" of fraud...completely disregarding any analysis of those races and candidates. Especially juicy is the comparison to the gay-marriage ban ballot measure. Do they even consider that socially conservative urban blacks may have voted hard for the ban, making the margin seem smaller in rural areas? No. Oops.

The article is just more evidence of the desperation and utter blindness of the Democrats in explaining their failure in 2004. They misunderstood the election, misunderstand Ohio politics, and woefully misunderstand even their own voters. And I have no problem whatsoever calling RFK Jr. the fraud and pretender that he is. I was there. He wasn't. End of story.

And what ironic is that all the voter fraud in the 2004 election was from the democrats. You know, the normal dem fraud stuff like dead people registered and voting, slashing tires of GOP get out the vote vehicles. The reality is that President Bush probably won the state of Wisconsin, where the difference was only like 11,000 votes.

I have a suggestion: Does anybody remember that guy who showed in a study how the Democrats were far guiltier of electoral shenanigans? I think he (or somebody else of equal caliber) should write a point-by-point debunking of Kennedy's insanity. But don't just post it on the blogs. He should then send a copy to Rolling Stone and scream at them, "We demand equal time. Print this in its entirety in your next issue, please." And if they don't, then Rolling Stone is finished. (It's a worthless rag, anyway, but this will illustrate that point so well.)

Bear,

I'm the hottest piece of Cuban-Italian beefcake you've ever seen, and ill rock you like Shaq in the paint, all elbows and sore feelings. *smooch*

Posted by: Third Eye Open at June 2, 2006 09:22 PM

Yikes!!! I think I'll stick with fraulien Heidi!

If Bush was arrested on cocaine charges it would have KILLED his Governor campaign, let alone his presidential campaign. Gore would have used. Kerry would have used it.

-- Nope, he was arrested, but not convicted. Daddy Bush used his CIA pull to hush it up and arrange Dubya to do community service.

He was however convicted of DWI and Cheney was also convicted of DWI twice.

Dubya is the first president to be convicted of a felony to be elected president. Theres something for you Republicans to be proud of huh? Your illustrious president is an EX-CON

axis, another intelligent statement! Bush was convicted of DUI, that was a misdemeanor, NOT a felony, why can't you get your shit right? Just like your ilk, take a story and stretch it as far as you can, and if that doesn't work just lie about it!

Axis

You better tweak your tinfoil hat because it seems to becoming off it's hinges.

I'll bet in your world they murdered people too and that was covered up.

Please, keep up this line of thought as it just seals every normal person's interpretation of how absolutely stupid and idiotic you people really are.

Axis, I find it extremely hard to believe that you have never broken the law in your partying years, maybe you just didn't get caught! That would be quite unrealistic seeing as everyone I know Including myself have our wild day stories! At least he didn't stab our troops in the back and had more than likely gotten some of them killed as well!

"Dubya is the first president to be convicted of a felony to be elected president."

Axis, you can't even get rudimentary facts straight. In fact, you just flat out lie. Time to grow up.

Dubya is the first president to be convicted of a felony to be elected president.

Axis... do you know how stupid you sound? If you are ever convicted of a felony you can't run for President.

Axis... do you know how stupid you sound? If you are ever convicted of a felony you can't run for President.

-- Actually, no, theres no such barrier for presidency. Its mostly a moral issue. Dick Cheney has TWO DWI convictions, so you have an EX-
Con President and an EX-CON Vice President. Is it any wonder whay they have no respect for the law.

Sounds like you are a non-believer, so here you go Check out President Bush's DWI Conviction here

Warrior, Carl and KCJ can click on the link above and see the ugly truth about your EX-CON President and also your EX-CON Vice President

At least Bearman has the balls to step up and admit it. Bearman, yes people make mistakes, however it is is new low in politics to have convicts in the white house. Never been done before.

Bush pleaded guilty to the misdemeanor DUI charge, paid a $150 fine, and had his driving privileges briefly revoked in the state of Maine.

I plead guilty to a misdemeanor "Minor in possession" charge when I was 20 yrs. of age! It didn't stop me from serving my country in the marine corp, it didn't stop me from going to college, raising a family, being a youth leader in the community, and If i wanted to I could actually run for president! No new lows here axis, except in your mind!

It's good to know that wacko liberals like yourself don't stop your law enforcement from doing their job up there! OORAH for the mounties!!!

Bearman, still, an american first. Not other presidents have had criminal records. A new low in American politics and a new low in the Republican party.

Let us also not forget about Bush's Felony Drug Arrest for Cocaine Possession where daddy bush saved his bacon by using his CIA pull to keep George from getting convicted on felony drug possession as it would seriously embarass the family.

"Let us also not forget about Bush's Felony Drug Arrest for Cocaine Possession where daddy bush saved his bacon by using his CIA pull to keep George from getting convicted on felony drug possession as it would seriously embarass the family"
_________________________________________________

Yet again IMHO hypocracy involved!!!!!!!!!

let's have it for the mounties!!!!!!

A new book by Texas author J.H. Hatfield claims that George W. Bush was arrested for cocaine possession in 1972, but had his record expunged with help from his family's political connections.

You are out of your damn mind Axis! This is your source? Holy sh.., you are one ignorant liberal! Ah, what's new about that! Get some real sources & some real stories! A book like that is like 1/10, you know the 10 being all the books written on what a class act G.B. turned out to be, what a good christian man he had become! Man, my stories are a dime a dozen and cooberated by real live people, not some heartless prick author with a political agenda!

Yet again IMHO hypocracy involved!!!!!!!!!

let's have it for the mounties!!!!!!

-- Is this the best you can do now Jeremiah, talk in circles? Not that I blame you. You know exactly what wolves and serpents you have surrounded yourself with and can expect to have your feet put to the fire one day for sharing in their evils.

You'll burn Jeremiah, Burn.

A book like that is like 1/10, you know the 10 being all the books written on what a class act G.B. turned out to be, what a good christian man he had become!

-- LOL, thats a good one. Books by self-professed preachers spouting proverbs and warning of end times coming is your idea of a legitimate source

Bush was questioned about his drug arrest and use and he refused to answer. If not true, he would have denied it. But he couldn't because it was true and knew it could be proved.

doesn't matter if it's true or not knucklehead, that's the point! We judge the man on the here & now not the past, and he passed the test twice. You ignorant types just can't find any here & now to play with unless your spinning lies so you go to the past, which really doesn't mean crap to us!!!

Oh and some of the authors which have written about G.B. are not christians or pastors. They write about a number of people past and present, ex. Thomas jefferson, Booker T. Washington, John F. Kennedy etc. etc. etc. Do you recognize any of these names Axis?

We judge the man on the here & now not the past, and he passed the test twice. You ignorant types just can't find any here & now to play with unless your spinning lies so you go to the past, which really doesn't mean crap to us!!!

-- I see. So its ok to have Charles Manson for your next republican presidential candidate because we should forgive his past indicretions and focus only on what he is like now. Amazing. No wonder you have so many killers and genocidal maniacs in the administration today. The bigger the criminal they are, the better you like them.

Are you a serial killer groupie too bearman? Penpals with the worst killers in american history?

So if I get this straight, Axis is foaming at the mouth about Bush's DWI misdemeanor charge and a supposed cocaine charge that no one knows about at all in recorded time.

Meanwhile, his boy is out raping women (three women accused him of such), sexually assaulting women (paid off two of them with a settlement), lying under oath, etc, etc.

I'm sorry....who was the criminal again?

I assume you speak of Kerry. If hes guilty, he should be held accountable, things look like a conservative conspiracy to discredit him at this point however.

My point is your hypocricy, you want to overlook your peoples criminal pasts and yet also jump on others.

Good to see you finally admit that Bush is a criminal and an ex-con though instead of trying to deny it and pretend it doesnt exist. I say theres still some hope for you. Many others here however are too far gone and have no hope for rehibilitation

Your just a dumb.ss axis. That conclusion has been drawn! To even remotely relate DWI's to Charlie Mnason is....well insane! I'll be praying for your mind(that the hatred doesn't eat you up)!

Oh yah, If Bush is a criminal for being caught for a DWI, than we are all uncaught criminals for one thing or another(including you Axis, if you have ever remotely broke the law, then it would be hypocrisy for you not to include yourself in G.B. category, woe is you, woe is you)!

personally, I'm beginning to think your a dumb.ss kid or a kid in an adult body!

Your just a dumb.ss axis. That conclusion has been drawn! To even remotely relate DWI's to Charlie Mnason is....well insane! I'll be praying for your mind(that the hatred doesn't eat you up)!

-- I see, so only certain crimes are not acceptable. What is your bar on acceptable crimes? What is the worst crime that a person could commit and still be fit to run for office in your books?

Oh yah, If Bush is a criminal for being caught for a DWI, than we are all uncaught criminals for one thing or another(including you Axis, if you have ever remotely broke the law, then it would be hypocrisy for you not to include yourself in G.B. category, woe is you, woe is you)!

-- True, but you miss my point. Its my belief that a PRESIDENT should be held to a higher standard than an ordinary person. Don't you agree?

I'm willing to bet that you were ashamed of Bill Clintons conduct with Monica and I am willing to bet that you felt that he should have been held to a higher standard than you or I.

It might also interest you to learn that in his college days, Bush would brand fraternity pledges with red hot coat hangers and lit cigarettes and thought it was jolly fun to do these things.

Personally, I think that a president like that is a disgrace being in the white house. Hes lowered the bar, but in your eyes any scumbag, even a drug dealer off the street is fit to run for President.

Your just a dumb.ss axis. That conclusion has been drawn! To even remotely relate DWI's to Charlie Mnason is....well insane! I'll be praying for your mind(that the hatred doesn't eat you up)!

-- I see, so only certain crimes are not acceptable. What is your bar on acceptable crimes? What is the worst crime that a person could commit and still be fit to run for office in your books?

Oh yah, If Bush is a criminal for being caught for a DWI, than we are all uncaught criminals for one thing or another(including you Axis, if you have ever remotely broke the law, then it would be hypocrisy for you not to include yourself in G.B. category, woe is you, woe is you)!

-- True, but you miss my point. Its my belief that a PRESIDENT should be held to a higher standard than an ordinary person. Don't you agree?

I'm willing to bet that you were ashamed of Bill Clintons conduct with Monica and I am willing to bet that you felt that he should have been held to a higher standard than you or I.

It might also interest you to learn that in his college days, Bush would brand fraternity pledges with red hot coat hangers and lit cigarettes and thought it was jolly fun to do these things.

Personally, I think that a president like that is a disgrace being in the white house. Hes lowered the bar, but in your eyes any scumbag, even a drug dealer off the street is fit to run for President.

Does axis has a life? He is the most prolific poster I have ever seen. This must be his day job from the DNC.

BTW: The only reason the Dems didn't win Ohio is that they are not as organized there as they are in Pennsylvania. Here the machine controls:

Where else is there a polling place in the office of a Dem State Senator?

Where else but in Philadelphia do they allow a polling place in a public bar? (patrons get a free drink after voting)

Where else did the Governor try to ban the acceptance of Military absentee ballots.

Where else were the convicted felons, still serving in Prison, allowed to handle ballots? (Graterford Prison if you want to look it up)

Where else do the unions regularly intimidate Republican voters. (sorry that's pretty much every big city).

Where else but in Philiadelphia are Republican poll watchers run off and prevented from observing the election fraud.

Where else do the dead rise on election day to vote straight Dem tickets? (Oh sorry again, that's alomost every big city again.)

Vote fraud??? Its a Democrat tradition, dating back to Boss Tweed (from NYC at the turn of the 19th Century).

Phnxbmed,

care to provide a few examples that perhaps date to sometime past 1968...i mean if you can.

3 eyes:

Want proof moron? I was talking baout the LAST ELECTION, pinnhead.

Where else is there a polling place in the office of a Dem State Senator? The 2004 election, Office of Senator Vince Fumo, infamous leader of the Dem party in Philly, and now under investigation by the FBI for nefarious corrupt practises.

Where else but in Philadelphia do they allow a polling place in a public bar? (patrons get a free drink after voting) The LAST ELECTION dumo.

Where else did the Governor try to ban the acceptance of Military absentee ballots. The Last election, Democrat Governor Ed "Fast Eddie" Rendel tried to block military absentee ballots from being counted. After the uproar in the state, he relented, and said it was a mistake. The only mistake being that he was caught trying to influence the outcome.

Where else were the convicted felons, still serving in Prison, allowed to handle ballots? (Graterford Prison if you want to look it up)The Last Election, Democrat Governor Ed "Fatr Eddie" Rendel, used the prisoners at Graterford Prison to "sort" absentee ballots. One of his officials was photographed coming out of the prison withthe ballots and gave that lame excuse.

Where else do the unions regularly intimidate Republican voters. (sorry that's pretty much every big city). During the last election he Teamsters in Philly beat-up two Rpublicans (husband and wife) who were holding signs in favor of Bush. The Bush campaign headquarters in Orlando where ransacked. Another one had shots fired into it. The there was the tire slashing incident in Milwaukee. Need I go on?

Where else but in Philiadelphia are Republican poll watchers run off and prevented from observing the election fraud. This is a regular occurance in Philadelphia. Union goons are called out to intimidate poll workers to leave. Its come to such a state that there are many polling places that have no Republican observers because they wont venture there.

Where else do the dead rise on election day to vote straight Dem tickets? (Oh sorry again, that's alomost every big city again.) This is history and current fact in every big city.

Vote fraud??? Its a Democrat tradition, dating back to Boss Tweed (from NYC at the turn of the 19th Century).

Need more proof moron? Do your own research you'll find it all documented in the Philly Enquirer.

BTW 3 eyes,

The Philly Enquirer is a well known left wing rag, so when they report Democrat vote fraud and corruption it must be true right?

BTW 3 eyes,

The Philly Enquirer is a well known left wing rag, so when they report Democrat vote fraud and corruption it must be true right?

Definition of convict (as in "ex-con"): "someone who has served time in jail or prison".

Pleading guilty to DUI and paying a $150.00 fine, with no jail time, does not make one an "ex-con". Unless of course you have BDS and live in a liberal, virtual world.

Actually, it can also include serving community time instead of going to jail like Bush did in 72 when popped for drug possession.

Phnxbmed,

So you're saying there is a huge democratic conspiracy, where by they lose elections, after commiting HUGE voter fraud...well gosh darn-it, sounds reasonable to me!

OBTW 3 eyes,

I almost forgot two other egregious examples of democrat election corruption:

1. "Walking around money" This was put into place by a democrat legislature. It is money that each PA state legistlator can spend in his disctrict as he chooses with NO accountablity. It is typically used to buy votes. Senator Fumo has taken this to a new level:

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/8734731.htm

2. During the last election, there was a drive by democrat grass roots organiszations to register more voters, remember. One of our business associates was in Philadelphia over one weekend and he was approached to register for the election. When he pointed out that he was a foreigner, the young dumocrat activist told him it didn't matter, he could still register and VOTE!!!against BUSH!!!

3 eyes,

Want some more?

http://www.grassrootspa.com/2004/10/grassrootspa-exclusive-registration_31.html

All of the vote fraud in Pennsylvania paid off for the dems who won the state. Aren't you proud of your party???

BTW:

The vote fraud in Wisconsin, New Mexico also worked for the Dems in 2004. Never the less you still lost.

Getting back to the original point of this discussion Busby is following the typical get out the illegal vote strategy. Only this time she was caught with her foot in her mouth.

axis, you're still lying and your source doesn't support your fraudulent claims. You lose again.

Axis...care to provide proof of that from 1972 or is that another one of your "the proof exists just it's been hidden"

It's amazing how often you come up with that line. Or daddy hid it, etc, etc.

At some point don't you actually have to back up your crap?

The Right stole the election!!

The Left was in on the fix!!

Great, as long as we point fingers and ignore the problems associated with the most basic right of adult citizens of this country, I'm sure everything will work its way out on its own.

Nice country you HAD, morons!

"yeah - apparently he was AWOL AND doing cocaine. don't see how the two are mutually exclusive actually. only seems to bolster the idea that he would have failed his drug tests miserably - better to jump ship (or plane)..."

You people (???) are amazing. You just invent stuff and keep repeating it.

There is absolutely no documentation of any arrest of Bush for any drug possession. Period. You can't even come up with a so-called witness to this. It is invention, pure and simple. And as a negative cannot be proved, it just hangs there, convincing only the ignorant and those totally committed to All That Is Not Bush.

An anonymous person once claimed he saw Bush use cocaine. Once. No name. No date. No corroboration. Evidently being young and well-off in the 70's is enough to prove drug use.

What is so funny is that it is clear that the lib posters who keep repeating this invention are dopers themselves. No rational sober person could possibly invest so much in fantasy and invention.

However, if you truly ARE offended by drug use, I suggest you go to the records of Roger Clinton, brother of Bill and convicted drug dealer, on tape telling a drug seller that he needed to get some blow for his brother, who "has a nose like a Hoover" when it comes to cocaine. No, not like Herbert.

As for the AWOL canard, the records are there for anyone to look at. Bush served more than twice the amount of time he was required to serve to satisfy his ANG requirements. Starting with his training, he served nearly two full years---that is, full time---under the Air Force, learning to fly. He did not just fly weekends, he flew intercept missions for three years. He only stopped doing that when returning Viet Nam career pilots needed the planes to keep up their hours. At that time, ANG offices around the country routinely encouraged short-timers to take early outs, to free up the planes and because they were no longer needed for those intercept missions as the regular Air Force could handle them.

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no, axis does not have to look up anything. He does not have to know anything. He is a liberal. He just has to listen to his masters and then regurgitate what he is told, mindless little puppet that he is. And of course he is not gainfully employed. If he has a job at all, it is obviously a low-paid dummy job, as it is clear he has never operated a business, made a payroll, made a business decision, had any responsibility, or been in the real world. I'm guessing that when he is not posting his bizarre rantings, the longest coherent sentence he ever says is "Do you want fries with that?"

Almiranta,

Didn't you know that a couple of years ago, "axis" was making $800,000 per year? At least that's what he was claiming over on the "108-Year Old "Temporary" Tax" thread.

Thanks for the update, A-10. Are you sure he didn't mean he was making $800,000 a year Canadian? That would be what, about $12,450 U.S.? Gotta love those liberal Canadian PMs and their contribututions to the economy of the country. Fortunately, there's a conservative in charge now, and the Canadian dollar is rising.

Seriously, though, he is a delusional little twit, isn't he? Proof, I guess, that if you never remove your head from your....nether regions...the view never changes.

axis thinks (??) that Kerry was the one accused of mulitiple rapes and other sexual offenses? Oh, my, I guess the news doesn't get to Planet Axis---you know,the imaginary place where what he says makes sense.

No, DumbAxis, Kerry is the guy who faked wounds and wrote false reports to get unearned Purple Hearts so he could go home after only 3 months in Viet Nam. Kerry is the nerd who took an 8mm camera to Nam with him so he and his buddies could "re-create" real and fictional combat so he'd have a record of his "heroics". Kerry is the liar who testified under oath to Congress about imagined and invented "atrocities" he claimed were "routinely" committed by American military, including his own sweet self, while representing what he called "Viet Nam Veterans Against the War"---though most of those involved had never fought in Viet Nam, or even served in the military. Kerry's the doofus who sent his guys out to pawn shops and thrift stores to buy up old war medals he and his lying cronies could throw over the fence at the White House so they could claim they were actually war heroes throwing back their earned medals in protest. Kerry's the guy who, while on active duty as a Navy officer, illegally slipped away twice to visit North Viet Nam, our enemy, to give them advice on how to win the war and to offer them his support, thereby earning himself a slot in their own war museum---the only time he actually EARNED hero status, just for the wrong side.

Kennedy's the guy who really drove really drunk and then left a woman to die, hoping no one would find out he killed her.

Clinton's the rapist and serial adulterer, and disbarred perjurer, with a "nose like a Hoover" when it comes to cocaine, according to his own brother, the convicted drug dealer who ought to know.