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May 30, 2006
The Democrats' Worst Nightmare

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Posted by Mark Noonan at May 30, 2006 06:58 AM



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Democrats are trembling in their boots when Republican Michael Steele (he's a black guy - did I mention he's black? Just wanted to be sure you knew he was black) does this:

"But at Prince George's Community College with Principal Myrick at his side, Steele whacked President Bush's educational policies (especially defunding support for low-income college students). In his brief remarks, he could not find anything favorable to say about the president.

He was even tougher on Bush in talking to me: "In the eyes of blacks, [Hurricane] Katrina was a 9/11 event. You didn't fly over 9/11. You got on the ground in the rubble. You should have been on the ground for Katrina."

Hey, Democrats HATE it when Republicans HATE GW, right? They're stealing our "we hate Bush" platform.

Amazing that a Republican (he's black, too. Did I mention he's a black guy?) might actually win an election by hating Bush. Next thing you know he'll be bad mouthing Cheney and Rumsfeld, too. That'll have those Democrats crying "UNCLE TOM"!

Posted by: congressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 08:33 AM

He's running in Maryland, which is my home state, and which is staunchly a blue state. Steele is trying to win by playing the race card-Maryland has a huge African-American population, and by distancing himself from Bush-who only 3% of blacks support.

Of course, if you look a little closer you find that none other than Karl Rove approached Steele about running for the Senate two years ago, and that he, Bush and Cheney have run large fundraisers for Steele.

So, Steele, who never came out against any Bush
policies before, is suddenly anti-Bush, but financed by the Bush machine. Many Republicans, who fear losing their seats (and justifiably so for what they have wrought on our country) have taken this tactic. They won't appear sometimes at their own fundraisers if Bush is also there, but have no problem accepting all that campaign cash.

Coming back to Steele-don't you just love a true independent???????

Posted by: kritter at May 30, 2006 09:10 AM

You miss the point, congressive: The idea of a Black person not being sucked in by the racial propaganda and demographic crutch of Democrats. Withour their banner of "affirmative action", where would they be, the poor darlings?

Actual ideals and beliefs to create? Never I say! Never if the world is just!

Posted by: jdhenshall [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 09:32 AM

Wha, huh, wha? A guy who begins a sentence with "In the eyes of blacks" isn't being sucked in by racial propaganda? Barry Cowsill of "The Cowsills" singing group was A) killed by Katrina, and B) white. Very white. Is he saying that white person didn't see Katrina as a 9-11 event? Or is Steele saying he doesn't know/care what white people think?

More likely, I think what this black person is saying is that BUSH didn't see Katrina as a 9-11 event because there was such a high percentage of black people involved. I LOVE the fact that Republicans are cheering this guy on. Bashes Bush and implies he's racist, wants to spend MORE on low-income college education... who DOESN'T love this guy?!?!

Posted by: congressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 10:04 AM

Holy Shmoley all this time I thought them was like Unicorns and the loch ness monster. Black Republicans are something I only thought were mythological!

Makes me kinda think that all this time that penguin which appears after too much sippin of the 'shine twernt a figment of my imagination after all.

Now if we can only get the rest of the black community out thar to forget about the GOP Southern Strategy, George Allen and Katrina and we're all set.

Posted by: HugeWangUSAF [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 10:35 AM

Mark, the democrats don't mind showing their racism by throwing oreo cookies at Steele. They know they still have the African American vote.

Posted by: CJ [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 10:44 AM

These guys get more delusional by the day.

Do black Republicans exist?
Of course -- and they may come out and support a Republican candidate from time to time.

Does that add up to some sort of "groundswell" of black Republicanism -- get a clue folks!

I'm no expert on Maryland -- but around these parts, the only political division between about 99 percent of black people is whether they dislike Bush (and Republicans in general) a lot or a ton. Even our black Republican senatorial canidate can't gain any traction with black voters -- because they DO understand the Southern Strategy and what it is really all about.

I'll be surprised if Republicans in Michigan get 2 percent of the so-called "black vote." A vote that is really an expression of the economically disenfranchised -- black, white, latino -- we're coming back and we are going to take the goofballs down!

Posted by: Salvelinus [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 11:04 AM

Mark, GOP isn’t going to do much if they do not get the illegal immigration under control. I have never seen such anger among my conservative friends. I know of no one here in Butler County that supports the President and the Senate’s side of amnesty, including me. Butler County Ohio is a dye-n-the-wool home of John Boehner - 8th District of Ohio and if those folks are that upset, and they are, then the GOP is in trouble. At least here in Ohio

Mike DeWine is now in trouble and his Ohio Senate seat can go to the DNC, thanks to his boneheaded amnesty plans.

Posted by: paul at May 30, 2006 11:14 AM

paul,

I can't disagree with you. I have stated my frustration with the Republicans many times before. They are acting more and more like Democrats all the time.

But, are we better off with some Republicans who behave like Democrats some of the time or with Democrats who are Democrats all of the time?

As much as I would like to vote some of the Republicans out of office, now is not the right time to do that.

The only option we have for now it to convince all Republicans to consider the alternative, bite their lip, do not stay home, get out and vote to put more Republicans in office, and then start working to thin their ranks of the RINOs. Anything less is suicide.

On the other hand, if we could get a third party started -- a real Conservative Party which could keep the Republicans in line and vote with them on most national issues -- they would get my vote.

If and when Republicans do finally throw away the House and Senate, then I am for some real and memorable house cleaning that they will remember for years!

AAR


Posted by: AAR [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 11:43 AM

Congressive...do you have your Oreo Cookies and "Uncle Tom" sayings ready to go?

Does Byrd have his white sheet?

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 01:54 PM

This is an interesting fact, that the democrats take black voters for granted. It's assumed that blacks are block voters: democrat. I've said it and you've said it: that is all changing. Things are changing in America. The democrats can no longer use blacks as a tool for their benefit. More and more blacks are seeing that Republicans embody their values.

At the same time, I have been chuckling about the "one-sided liberal" media posts here. Guess what? I heard some great stories about the troops yesterday on the MSM: oh my! They actually said things are looking good in Iraq. I thought that too!!!!

I heard about--in liberal circles, they're talking about--some people from CBS who were hurt in Iraq at their hotel balconies, that's where it was, right? Mark or Matt: you can post something about that, even though it may discredit the cheap "it's always their fault" argument.

Posted by: Nick Edmunds at May 30, 2006 02:35 PM

Salve,

You just don't get it, do you?

The majority of black Americans are just like the majority of all Americans - committed believers (mostly Christian) who hold to traditional values and can't stand most of what the Democratic Party stands for.

The GOP has failed them up to this point - we wrote them off and thus allowed the Democrats free reign to engage in race-baiting in the black community. Well, times change - and all we're really doing is pointing out to black voters that they are (a) taken for granted and (b) aren't having their issues addressed by the Democratic Party.

In Steele, Blackwell and Swann we have the ability to break in to the black vote...and even 25% of black Americans voting GOP spells complete destruction for the Democratic Party.

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 02:53 PM

Black Republicans. You already have one. Condie Rice. Ask an average black fellow what he thinks of here and if he thinks she is respresenting him well.

Some voters might be swayed for a term, but after that, they would see the light and see that he does not care or represent their interests at all, but rather is a colored bish clone.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 03:41 PM

The majority of black Americans are just like the majority of all Americans - committed believers (mostly Christian) who hold to traditional values and can't stand most of what the Democratic Party stands for.

-- Right, thats why 88% of all blacks vote democratic and have been for 40 years ... because they can't stand the democrats. LOL

They vote democratic because they remember being persecuted, black water fountains, black washrooms, sitting in the back of the bus. They remember republicans opposing establishing civil rights just some 50 years ago.

But most impportantly, they also vote that way because democrats are the lesser of 2 evils and the least likely to impose or persecute those who are different.

They see you attacking the mexicans, the gay, abortion rights and they say never again.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 03:46 PM

Nick

You heard some great stories about the troops on the media on Memorial Day? Do tell.


Check out this cartoon link, says it ALL!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v138/stm58/mallard.jpg


Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 04:59 PM

Axis, they've been sold a bill of goods by their liberal leaders and have been failed upon time and time again.

Sort of like Canada as a whole. Irrelevent.

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 05:00 PM

Axis, they've been sold a bill of goods by their liberal leaders and have been failed upon time and time again.

-- One thing is certain, they are not gonna sell their principles off for $20 bucks more back on their tax returns...

Last time I checked, the GOP was not doing anything whatsoever for them, so why should they vote for you just because you found a black puppet candidate.?

Maybe if you start passing legislation that favors them for a change instead of the 10% richest people in america, then a few more would vote for you.

As I said, you may get a few votes, however it will be short lived. Blacks are not stupid, they will be able to see the wolf in sheeps clothing really quick.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 05:11 PM

axis,

RE: "They vote democratic because they remember ... some 50 years ago."

And we sure wouldn't want them to forget 50 years ago, would we? We sure wouldn't want them to begin to look to the future and what might be rather than living in the past and what was!

And just to make sure, the Democrats will raise the race issue anytime and every time they can. It doesn't matter what the issue is, or the fact that race has absolutely no bearing on the issue, it is all racism to the Democrats... well, not really... but that's their line and they are sticking to it!

These day's it's Democrats who want to make everything a race issue!

AAR

Posted by: AAR [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 05:36 PM

axis

It must be really hard to be as dumb as you are. You want blacks to remember how Democrats treated them?

The Republican Party was formed specifically to defeat the Democrats on the slavery issue.

The Dixie-crats were the creators of Jim Crow laws.

I mean, really, if you wanted to make an argument of why blacks prefer Democrats, talk about how a Democrat President steered the Civil Rights Act through Congress, or how Democrats fight for the working man, or how Republicans are for the rich.

But really, you should hope blacks DON'T vote based on how the Democrats have historically treated them.

Posted by: Conservative to the Core [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 05:53 PM

Once again I find myself in awe of Conservative to teh core. His knowledge of History makes me a little proud to read what he writes.

Civil Rights activists like Strom Thurmond and Jessie Helms, surely switched parties due to the odious treatemnt of their fellow man. They swicthed because the new Republican party better served their views on civil rights.

Posted by: HugeWangUSAF [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 06:17 PM

The real issue is that Steele, a Conservative Republican sponsored by Karl Rove and George Bush, now is going around to black churches and putting as much distance between himself and Bush as possible. By criticizing the policies that have hurt black Marylanders -ie cuts in college loans for low income applicants, he makes it look like he is running as an independent. Most of his campaign cash was raised by Bush and Rove, so how independent could he be? Black Marylanders loathe Bush. I don't think the black voters here realize he is the GOP's secret weapon for '06.

Posted by: kritter at May 30, 2006 06:19 PM

And we sure wouldn't want them to forget 50 years ago, would we? We sure wouldn't want them to begin to look to the future and what might be rather than living in the past and what was!

-- AAR, I said they remember, never did I say that the democrats are reminding them of it. Blacks know how they were treated in the past by conservatives and narrow minded people and never want to see that happen again. This is in their culture, you mistreated them from the day they won their emancipation and now you might live with the lasting effects of that mistreatment, being that they will always overwhelmingly vote democraticm regardless of the black puppets you dream up to woo them.

As I said, you might be able to fool some of them once , but they will see the puppet for who he is and turf him out the very next election.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 06:45 PM

Warrior,

We already know that much in Iraq is going much better than many Americans think. You challenge the MSM as one sided. But I challenge you to take the other side.

List 7 things about the American occupation of Iraq that you can criticize (I want you to list for me 7 current failures and none of them should have anything to do with liberals). Do you know enough to CHALLENGE and CRITIQUE the war in Iraq?

Here, I will provide seven successes: 1) Hussein deposed and on trial 2) Emerging democratic state 3) right to vote for leaders 4) reconstruction of schools, offices, infrustructure 5) elimination of terrorist threat 6) human rights, rights to property, right to free speech and press, 7)parternship between other free countries and educational opportunities.

Posted by: Nick Edmunds at May 30, 2006 06:50 PM

It must be really hard to be as dumb as you are. You want blacks to remember how Democrats treated them?

The Republican Party was formed specifically to defeat the Democrats on the slavery issue.

-- Yes they did, which is not a proud issue, but as someone else pointed out in another topic, both parties have come full circle since then and it is modern times that concern people.

Blacks remember 50 years ago because they are still being percecuted and there is still wide spread racism and hate against them to this day, and it is conservatives that always fuel that hate and racism with white power groups and hate organizations and militant groups.

You don't see any liberals walking around telling the blacks that they should be in the fields picking cotton. Thats because we as progressives moved forward and you conservatives have not and still clutch to your hatred and racism just as must as 50 years ago. Only now, its a little more hidden. Now you quietly turn them away from jobs you feel should go to the whites rather than turning them away publically from the white water fountain.

I am glad you brought up that point Conservative to the core, it just shows how far we liberals have come since then and how little you conservatives have come in the same amount of time.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 06:56 PM

axis

I never said that blacks should be picking cotton. That is another job Americans won't do and should be left to the mexicans.

The truth is, moonbats just love to ignore history. "Uh, sorry about that whole slavery thing but how's about that affirmative action, eh?" I can imagine Hitler saying, "Well, yes, we did kill six million jews, but I only hire jewish lawyers and accountants."

And where do you come up with the idea that conservatives are racists? At the club we have at LEAST five black member, two jews and some sort of asian chinky guy (but oh, my Lord, don't play behind him or you'll be on the course all day, lol). My maid is mexican. I talk to the black guy in our office same as I'd talk to anyone.

Don't paint us all with your lying brush.

Posted by: Conservative to the Core [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 07:06 PM

And where do you come up with the idea that conservatives are racists? At the club we have at LEAST five black member, two jews and some sort of asian chinky guy (but oh, my Lord, don't play behind him or you'll be on the course all day, lol). My maid is mexican. I talk to the black guy in our office same as I'd talk to anyone.

Boy, I have no idea where he came up with that idea.

lol, indeed.

Posted by: congressive [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 07:14 PM

Conservative, I am not painting you with all the same brush. I didnt say that conservatives are racists, I said that racists are overwhelmingly conservatives. Theres a big distinction in there if you look.

The point is that all parties have pasts that they are not proud of. Conservatives had pushed eugenics and forced sterilizations in the past, liberals had pushed slavery in the past.

Both are big black marks, but neither are being practiced anymore.

Racism, hate and bigotry are however and in a big way. Blacks are still getting lynched in southern states for crying out loud. You know, those RED, god-fearing, Christian southern states?

This is what is alive to blacks these days.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 07:20 PM

And where do you come up with the idea that conservatives are racists? At the club we have at LEAST five black member, two jews and some sort of asian chinky guy (but oh, my Lord, don't play behind him or you'll be on the course all day, lol). My maid is mexican. I talk to the black guy in our office same as I'd talk to anyone.

-- No, you are definately not racist, you just believe that there should be a black, a mexican or a chinky guy in every home. LOL

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 07:24 PM

I'm sure the GOP put Swannie up for office in PA for his vast knowledge of government and public policy - not just because he is a well know black sports star and broadcaster who can con blacks into voting for republicans.

Let's see - when he appeared on This Week with George Stephanopoulos, George asked him if he would propose outlawing abortion if Roe vs. Wade were overturned by the Supreme Court. His answer - "Well, if the Supreme Court overturns Roe v Wade, it's over, abortion is illegal".

Fantastic - he doesn't even know what Roe vs. Wade is! Good luck Pennsylvania - the GOP has put forth their finest candidate for you!

Should we talk about the impressive experience of Michael Steele now?

By the way - liberals don't throw oreos and shout "Uncle Tom"...BLACK liberals do!

Posted by: extramedium [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 08:40 PM

Well, all other issues aside, any candidate picked by BUSH is a loser for sure.

See bush the other day trying to warm the people into letting Jeb steak in there and continue the Neo-con fascist parade for another term or 2 like that will happen.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 09:28 PM

Nick

7 criticisms. Difficult for me to say because I'm not a military expert nor a nation building expert, this is why I get crazy when other non-experts trumpet their wares as if they are gospel. I'll give you 5 off the top of my head below


Having said that and in "hind-sight" (Monday Morning Quarterbacking is hogwash when it comes to wars in my opinion). Furthermore, what we believe are "failures" today may prove to be successes in a year, two years, 10 years. I don't like the scorecard mentality. That being said, I'll play the game:

1) More troops needed at the outset (subject to speculation...Tommy Franks said he had enough and others said he needed more. The President listened to a General with great successes in the past. Certainly enough troops to win the war, but for the post gov't toppling?)

2) The Baathification of the army (some military people were for this and others not). Short term is created a vaccum of safety, but long term it might have been the right decision. Time will tell.

3) Paul Bremer

4) The messaging of the administration is horrible. There have been so many good things but their inability to articulate them has been costly.

5) Syria and Iran. Did not prevent their pourous borders from allowing more insurgents into the area

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 09:34 PM

axis,

RE: "...I said they remember, never did I say that the democrats are reminding them of it..."

A rose by any other name... or a good fresh cow pattie!

Just watch the news. Read your's and other liberal posts. Everything eventually comes back to an allegation or charge of racism or racial bias.

It's part of the liberal play book. Why would we expect anything else?

AAR

Posted by: AAR [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 10:34 PM

axis: "No, you are definately not racist, you just believe that there should be a black, a mexican or a chinky guy in every home. LOL"

I'm glad you concede I'm not a racist, but to require a black, a mexican and a chinky guy in EVERY home would be affirative action at its worst. I'm just saying we've got all sorts of "diversity" at the club.

But look to you guys for diversity. extramedium derides Lynn Swann with the name "Swanny" and suggests he's a Republican hack. Well, now I cried in "Brian's Song" when the white guy died and that movie shows friendship knows no color. Unlike in your backwards world, where color is all you see.

Especially the color of money!

Posted by: Conservative to the Core [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 10:42 PM

axis.....re Condi Rice...pray tell us how she is supposed to "represent" the "average black fellow"...your words..
I was not aware she was a member of Congress!!!
such a pantload of crap!!!!

Posted by: Xango Annie at May 30, 2006 10:58 PM

axis,

You are full of it as usual!

I see you are making good use of your "short hand" and a good mix of your usual liberal topics including: progressive... persecuted... gay... mexican... black... rich... hate... hatred... racism... racists... bigotry... eugenics... sterilizations... Neo-con...

RE: "You don't see any liberals walking around telling the blacks that they should be in the fields picking cotton. Thats because we as progressives..."

No, you go around working to keep them on welfare so they don't work to better themselves and so the remain a slave to your promises of even more welfare and if only they will vote Democratic!

RE: "...they are not gonna sell their principles off for $20 bucks more back on their tax returns..."

No, axis, liberals would never promise something like that. That implies liberals would actually want blacks to get jobs, earn a good living, and actually have the ability to pay taxes. No, liberals would never dream of something like that.

Liberals would promise another $20 (bucks) a month in welfare payments. Of course to have a guarantee of getting that $20 they must sell their soul to the Democrats and continue voting for Democrats. Otherwise those heartless Republicans may help them find jobs and break the endless Democratic welfare bond that holds them down in poverty.

Yes, axis. It is the Democrats who really want to keep blacks on welfare and under the bonds of poverty. Now what would be a good term for that? Think hard and you can come up with the word!

AAR

Posted by: AAR at May 30, 2006 11:10 PM

axis claims:
"Blacks remember 50 years ago because they are still being percecuted and there is still wide spread racism and hate against them to this day, and it is conservatives that always fuel that hate and racism with white power groups and hate organizations and militant groups."

Which is, of course, the rallying cry of the Democrats, to try to call the minorities to their cause. Of course, the KKK (and Bobbie Byrd) had their heydey in the day of the old Southern Democrat, and has faded considerably since conservatism raised its rational head in Dixie. You can claim all you want to that the few "white power groups" and "hate organizations" and "militant groups" are Republican, but you would be sorely mistaken---not that that has ever bothered you.

Blacks remember 50 years ago because they are never allowed to forget one single thing that has ever happened that might possibly be spun as racist. Why? Because the black vote is the only thing that gets Dems into power, the only thing that keeps them in power, and the single thing they are most terrified of losing. So they have to keep trying to convince blacks that every single thing done by every single white Republican is based on hatred of them, the poor black victims.

Katrina got thousansds or terrified black people out of the plantation mentality they had had shoved down their throars for so long by cynical, conniving, liberals who were only too eager to keep them penned up in invisible but unbreakable bonds of fear, suspicion, hatred, and paranoia. These people got to "white" areas of the country where they were accepted, helped, and encouraged to stay, and they learned---finally---that they had been fed a line of bull for the express purpose of keeping them in line and under control. That's why so many swore never to return, and why that scared the Louisiana libs so much.

I once read a story of a poor, put-upon, black college student who was on the receiving end of vicious racism every single day----her best example was that people would put her change on the counter instead of in her hand, or if they had to put it in her hand, they would try not to touch her. Yep, that's the agony she had to go through. Of course, I, the whitest person in the world with my Slavic/Irish heritage, experience exactly the same thing. I have just not been programmed to find "RACISM" in every rude clerk, every bad driver, every natural disaster, every mistake made by every person in the world. As I white person, I have had to see such things as normal occurrances of everyday life.

Republicans think that affirmative action is demeaning---it is saying that some races just don't have what it takes to make it without the paternal and condescending hand of Whitey to help them along. They think that ever person should be judged on his or her merits. And THEY are called racist!

When the Bush Administration has the highest number of minorities in history in the highest positions in history, these people, black and Hispanic, are derided by the supposedly non-racist liberals as "not being black/brown enough". How racist can you get? The only racist cartoons about these people have been done by liberals.

Look at this statement by axis, abaout Condi Rice:
"Ask an average black fellow what he thinks of here and if he thinks she is respresenting him well." Representing a 'black man' any differently than she represents any man would be racist. How do you think she SHOULD "represent" black people, axis? Pretend she is not highly educated, with advanced degrees from top colleges? Pretend she is not a skilled classical pianist, or can speak several languages fluently? In other words, 'talk down'? Jive a little? Offer handouts? Just how DO you "represent" BLACK people when you are the Secretary of State? Come on, you great fount of political knowledge---HOW?

You seem to think that black people cannot or will not relate to a successful black person who does not achieve success on the backs of the poorer of his race, like the "Reverend" Jesseh.

Your inherent and I must say vile racism is prevalent in your posts, and is extremely distasteful, though accurately representing that of most liberals.

The hypocisy of liberalisms often rears its ugly head, but it is seldom as visible and recognizable as when it involves race.

Posted by: Almiranta [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 11:16 PM

Michael Steele knows, as you evidently do not, that George Bush is nor running for election next year. As a matter of fact, several of us have decided not to vote for him.

He also reads his potential constituency well, and understands that he must prove himself to be an independent Republican and not too close to Bush to have a chance.

He also understands the old but very true saying that the Republican Party is a big tent, with lots of room for different people. It is not, as you like to portray, a lockstep party of kool-aid drinkers.

Posted by: Almiranta [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 30, 2006 11:21 PM

Hey - Lynn Swann is a hack as a politician, but he was a great player and broadcaster for ABC sports. And his nickname was Swannie - no derision here. Jeez - don't they have Monday Night Football in them red states???

Posted by: extramedium [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 12:03 AM

Which is, of course, the rallying cry of the Democrats, to try to call the minorities to their cause. Of course, the KKK (and Bobbie Byrd) had their heydey in the day of the old Southern Democrat, and has faded considerably since conservatism raised its rational head in Dixie.

-- Oh please. The KKK faded for reasons of being an outdated principle and as people grew and PROGRESSED, the appeal fell away. It also was attaching big time attention from the feds as hate crimes made it onto the law books. It certainly wasn't you conservatives that rode in and saved the day, despite what you think. Instead of one big organization, nows theres hundreds of them. If what you said had ANY truth to it, then RED states would be the last places you will find these types of groups, instead, it is nearly the ONLY place you do. Red states are still the hot beds of hate groups and racism in the US.


Why? Because the black vote is the only thing that gets Dems into power, the only thing that keeps them in power, and the single thing they are most terrified of losing.

-- Whites are rapidly becoming the minority in the USA, time you stood up and smelled the coffee. Actually, most minorities tend to vote democratic, including mexican, chinese, hindu, etc. We're not afraid of losing them, only vigilant of the lies you are telling them to try and fool them for voting for you.


Katrina got thousansds or terrified black people out of the plantation mentality they had had shoved down their throars for so long by cynical, conniving, liberals who were only too eager to keep them penned up in invisible but unbreakable bonds of fear, suspicion, hatred, and paranoia.

-- Nice. You sound like Barbara Bush stating that katrina was good for the poor, blowing away all their shacks to leave fresh new earth and drowning those unable to properly support themselves. Don't hold your breath waiting for them to repay your kindness with a vote at the polls. Most blacks there feel that they were purposely ignored, which they were. Thats going to cost you even more in November.

These people got to "white" areas of the country where they were accepted, helped, and encouraged to stay, and they learned---finally---that they had been fed a line of bull for the express purpose of keeping them in line and under control. That's why so many swore never to return, and why that scared the Louisiana libs so much.

-- What planet are you living on? FEMA shacked them up in prison sized trailers, which they are not taking away from them. I seem to remember many texas state and local officials telling FEMA to send them elsewhere, they didn't want any more of the poor there. Those that arent returning are doing so because they have nothing left and are going to try setting down roots elsewhere. Also they don't ever want to go thru that again. Lots of people in Florida lose everything they own in a hurricane and leave and never return either.


I once read a story of a poor, put-upon, black college student who was on the receiving end of vicious racism every single day----her best example was that people would put her change on the counter instead of in her hand, or if they had to put it in her hand, they would try not to touch her. Yep, that's the agony she had to go through. Of course, I, the whitest person in the world with my Slavic/Irish heritage, experience exactly the same thing. I have just not been programmed to find "RACISM" in every rude clerk, every bad driver, every natural disaster, every mistake made by every person in the world. As I white person, I have had to see such things as normal occurrances of everyday life.

-- Also as a "white person" of an invisible minority, its fair to say that you experienced a teeny, tiny fraction of the racism that a black person experiences. You trying to equate someone making fun of your accent as being the same as a black person shows you are truly confused.


When the Bush Administration has the highest number of minorities in history in the highest positions in history, these people, black and Hispanic, are derided by the supposedly non-racist liberals as "not being black/brown enough". How racist can you get? The only racist cartoons about these people have been done by liberals.

-- Agreed and every, single one is a talking head that represents the same things as the rest of the administration, not someone that is trying to improve things for their own. Condi Rice says she grew up in Alabama and never experienced a day of racism in her life and can't figure out how blacks think there is still racism left in America. Blacks see here for the sell out that she is, selling out her heritage for money in her purse.

You seem to think that black people cannot or will not relate to a successful black person who does not achieve success on the backs of the poorer of his race, like the "Reverend" Jesseh.

-- trying to equate Jesse Jackson with this hand picked puppet is quite funny. Jesse Jackson has achieved great things for his own. This puppet is just a black bush clone.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 01:15 AM

You lost me at Jesse Jackson has achieved great things for his own.

Nothing like the SHAKEDOWN by holding companies for hostage while knocking up his girlfriends left and right.

Yeah, what a guy.

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 01:52 AM

Well, we struck a nerve on this one - as we can see from the lefty posters here, the concept of black Republicans gets them all upset.

Just 25% of the black vote, that is all we need to destroy the Democratic Party...

Posted by: Mark Noonan [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 01:54 AM

Just 25% of the black vote, that is all we need to destroy the Democratic Party...

-- Not if 25% of Republicans stay home in November as is expected to happen it wont.

And you'll need a lot more than a couple black puppet republicans to pull something like off.

Black voters are not as dumb as you think they are. They are not going to just overwhelmingly vote for a republican just because hes black.

A for effort, but a C- for results as you will see come november.

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 02:39 AM

Warrior,

Good points.

Posted by: Nick Edmunds at May 31, 2006 10:32 AM

"They remember republicans opposing establishing civil rights just some 50 years ago." Axis

Check your history doofus, it was the southern DEMOCRATS that opposed it, led by non other than Sheets Byrd and ALgore's father.


Posted by: phnxbmed at May 31, 2006 11:08 AM

Almiranta- Steele can try to run as an independent, but if he wins he will be beholden to Bush and Rove, as they have held fundraisers for him. He is smart enough not to want to identify himself with them in public, but I don't see him as significantly independent from them.

A lot of voters thought that as Lt Gov. he would try to investigate whether the death penalty is applied disproportionately to black offenders in Maryland, a campaign promise he made in 2002(it is). But Steele did nothing, because Gov Ehrlich, a white Republican, favors the death penalty. Just as he was beholden to Ehrlich, Steele will also be beholden to Bush and Rove. Its a scam-as only 1% of black voters in Maryland approve of Bush and Cheney.

Posted by: kritter at May 31, 2006 12:40 PM

"Black voters are not as dumb as you think they are. They are not going to just overwhelmingly vote for a republican just because hes black."


Yet Democrats think they are dumb enough to vote for Democrats just because they are Democrats?

Uhm, ok Axis. That artic air can be a bitch on those brain cells.

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 12:42 PM

-- That was called slavery, not civil rights dumb dumb. You are the one needing to check the history books.

Check your history doofus, it was the southern DEMOCRATS that opposed it, led by non other than Sheets Byrd and ALgore's father.

Posted by: phnxbmed at May 31, 2006 11:08 AM

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 06:26 PM

No axis, actually you are wrong and phnxbmed is right. Civil rights legislation would not have passed without the Republican support. In fact Byrd himself admitted recently that he is ashamed the way he acted then.

Really, facts do elude you often.

Posted by: Warriornation [TypeKey Profile Page] at May 31, 2006 10:58 PM

warrior, the point is the it was a democratic initiative, the fact that a handful of republicans also supported it and that a handful of democrats didnt is moot

Posted by: axis [TypeKey Profile Page] at June 1, 2006 01:12 AM

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