Mark, get to bed! I can't keep up with you.
I don't believe this either, but I wish the President had stayed out of this matter. The DOJ had every right to do what they did, and Hastert got burned over it. Sometimes, it appears as if 535 men and women in WDC feel as if they're above the law...
Posted by: keefer at May 28, 2006 02:05 AM
Keefer,
Hehe - and I'm actually headed that way; got Church in the AM, party at a friends in the evening...then out to see the in-laws on Monday.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at May 28, 2006 02:14 AM
I've got two words on Gonzales leaving(hopefully): good ridence.
Posted by:
teenage liberal at May 28, 2006 02:24 AM
Gonzalez should go, but he won't because hes just another Bush crony.
He was George Bush's PERSONAL lawyer and was appointed to a position that was intended to be independant of the white house. Hello? Anyone say HUGE conflict of interest?
So instead of doing what he was hired to do, he spends his days protecting the white houses corruption and scandals and secrets and covering up their illegal activities.
Gonzalez is complicit in many of the Bush crime family's illegal acts and if an investigation into him is done, he will be the one headed to prison as he is dirty.
Posted by: axis at May 28, 2006 03:31 AM
Interesting how many stories these days are about Republicans turning on Bush, either opposing his policies or ordering him around.
Is this the new meme?
Posted by: The Small Town hick at May 28, 2006 03:56 AM
Interesting how many stories these days are about Republicans turning on Bush, either opposing his policies or ordering him around.
Is this the new meme?
-- Nope, just pre-election hijinks. The GOP is hoping that by seperating themselves a bit from the white house that they will fool people in November into thinking they have changed their stripes. They fear that the deciders 29% approval and dead eye dicks 15% approval will drag them right down the sewers in the midterms
Posted by: axis at May 28, 2006 04:47 AM
Is this the new meme?
Basically, yes it is, Hick. The DBM is vested in the failure of President Bush, as are the DemocRATs in Washington. It's what they're running on, having no aenda of their own. So, despite what axis of stupidity may cut-and-paste from the DNC talking points, this is the plan.
Actually, axis of stupidity didn't cut-and-paste, unless there's someone out there who's as stupid as he. Two posts by axis, at least 20 writing errors. It's clearly evident that axis never made it past primary school--he probably still uses those fat pencils and crayons.
Speaking of poor writing skills: Hey, teenaged window-licker, what's ridence mean? Are you tweaking again?
Posted by: keefer at May 28, 2006 08:09 AM
Careful keefer, your mommy and daddy might find out you're nearly cussing and take your computer privliges away and send you to your room.
Posted by: axis at May 28, 2006 08:15 AM
"There's an old saying . . . 'Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. [Pause.] Fool me -- you can't get fooled again.' "
Posted by: raker13 at May 28, 2006 11:45 AM
Axis,
How much? You avoid the question. Why?
Is it just spending money? Enough to supplement a job? More???
Posted by: LaMano at May 28, 2006 01:07 PM
Threatens resignation? How about offers? Twice.
Your good ol' boy Rummie.
Posted by: raker13 at May 28, 2006 01:29 PM
Axis, I actually have to disagree with you on your earlier point. Presidents can appoint their friends and personal lawyers to any position they want. It's a matter of qualifications and history will judge how he did his job. It would only be a conflict of interest if he was CURRENTLY the President's lawyer and the Attorney General at the same time.
Teenage, you beat me to it...Good Riddance!!!! You know as well as I we couldn't be that lucky. I have learned that Hastert conceded that what the FBI did was legal. Speaking of legal, how long before Bush pardons DeLay??? The culture of corruption is only just beginning to rear it's ugly head.
Posted by:
Captain Ron at May 28, 2006 01:45 PM
It's not a "Culture of Corruption."
It's a "Culture of Arrogant Elitism and Untouchability."
It spans BOTH political parties on BOTH ends of the spectrum. WE are the ones getting screwed every which way by BOTH parties and BOTH ends of the spectrum. And they're laughing all the way to the bank, even as we continue to subdize their mendacious and corrupt lifestyles.
VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY - ANY THIRD PARTY - COME ELECTION TIME! It's the only option that we have left.
Posted by: dbogdan at May 28, 2006 02:53 PM
Actually, dbogdan, I usually never agree with you. But, on this point I do.
Our elected officials on both sides of the aisle
are pretty much bought and paid for by special interests. What the average voter thinks no longer interests them. Voters don't usually host fundraisers-lobbyists do.
Congress is no longer made up of public servants, but of egotists who would do just about anything to maintain their power. They gerrymander their districts, cater to special interests and become power brokers for those special interests after they leave office. They are well aware that third party candidates lack the financial backing and organization necessary to pose a big threat. I'm tired of voting for people who only want to protect their own hides!
Posted by: kritter at May 28, 2006 04:34 PM
JFK named his little brother as atty. general.
Posted by: Kahn at May 28, 2006 06:08 PM
Yes, he did, and RFK was approved by Congress. Wonder what they were thinking! The A.G. is supposed to represent American citizens, not the executive branch. How many of them actually maintain their independence, and are not subject to pressure by the Prez?
Posted by: kritter at May 28, 2006 08:50 PM
It would only be a conflict of interest if he was CURRENTLY the President's lawyer and the Attorney General at the same time.
-- Isn't that what he is right now, only unofficially being bush's lawyer. He is protecting the administration and bush , covering up their misdeeds and corruption and trying to prevent the press from reporting on anything that will further damage bush or the administration. He is a member of the cabinet, however his chief duties are to act as head of the justice department. He should be cracking down on government corruption and sleeze, not protecting it. This is chiefly why it is a conflict of interest.
Posted by: axis at May 28, 2006 10:47 PM
I don't get it. The Attorney General works for the President who is a Republican. Why would he care about anything that happens to a Democrat? Aren't Democrats the enemy? I think he needs to get his priorities in order or maybe the President will take him up on that & fire him for his disloyalty to his country.
Posted by: scalefree at May 29, 2006 12:40 AM
Axis,
Tell us how much you make from posting. Are you ashamed?
Posted by: LaMano at May 29, 2006 01:03 AM
scalefree, the Attorney General works for the American people, as does the president. He is the head of the justice department, intended to be an independant body from the executive branch to avoid conflicts of interest in the case of crooked members of the administration.
If you think his job is to go around busting democrats, you are delusional. The justice department was designed to be non-partisan, meaning that if you were crooked or corrupt, they would nail you regardless of if you were a democrat or republican.
It is a perversion of justice to use it to protect or shield republicans from justice.
Gonzalez is the one that needs investigating.
Posted by: axis at May 29, 2006 02:02 AM
This kind of posturing is usually reserved for mob turf wars.
I won't be redundant.
Posted by: congressive at May 29, 2006 02:34 AM
Speaking of legal, how long before Bush pardons DeLay??? The culture of corruption is only just beginning to rear it's ugly head.
Yes, but the culture of stupidity rears its ugly head every time you show up, Captain (mo)Ronda. As of this post, Tom Delay hasn't been convicted of any pardonable offences, so why should Bush pardon him? Hmmm?
Posted by: keefer at May 29, 2006 11:35 AM
Regarding the substantial quote taken directly from the NY Times (re: abortions) and how it relates to what I have just read: how does it help to discredit your own source? (The NY Times is "only slightly more reliable than the National Enquirer.") Is that another Rove-style manuever, or are you just a dunderheaded ninny?
Posted by: seth at May 29, 2006 04:18 PM
keefer, you are the one that is uninformed. Do some research into the pardoning process and you will find that a pardon can be given at any time and one needs not be convicted in order to be pardoned.
The Republican Govenor od Kentucky that was just indicted for corruption, pardoned his entire staff that participated in the corruption and did so long before they were even considering indictment.
Read about the Kentucky Republican Culture of Corruption Here
Posted by: axis at May 30, 2006 04:10 AM
Mark, get to bed! I can't keep up with you.
I don't believe this either, but I wish the President had stayed out of this matter. The DOJ had every right to do what they did, and Hastert got burned over it. Sometimes, it appears as if 535 men and women in WDC feel as if they're above the law...
Keefer,
Hehe - and I'm actually headed that way; got Church in the AM, party at a friends in the evening...then out to see the in-laws on Monday.
I've got two words on Gonzales leaving(hopefully): good ridence.
Gonzalez should go, but he won't because hes just another Bush crony.
He was George Bush's PERSONAL lawyer and was appointed to a position that was intended to be independant of the white house. Hello? Anyone say HUGE conflict of interest?
So instead of doing what he was hired to do, he spends his days protecting the white houses corruption and scandals and secrets and covering up their illegal activities.
Gonzalez is complicit in many of the Bush crime family's illegal acts and if an investigation into him is done, he will be the one headed to prison as he is dirty.
Interesting how many stories these days are about Republicans turning on Bush, either opposing his policies or ordering him around.
Is this the new meme?
Interesting how many stories these days are about Republicans turning on Bush, either opposing his policies or ordering him around.
Is this the new meme?
-- Nope, just pre-election hijinks. The GOP is hoping that by seperating themselves a bit from the white house that they will fool people in November into thinking they have changed their stripes. They fear that the deciders 29% approval and dead eye dicks 15% approval will drag them right down the sewers in the midterms
Is this the new meme?
Basically, yes it is, Hick. The DBM is vested in the failure of President Bush, as are the DemocRATs in Washington. It's what they're running on, having no aenda of their own. So, despite what axis of stupidity may cut-and-paste from the DNC talking points, this is the plan.
Actually, axis of stupidity didn't cut-and-paste, unless there's someone out there who's as stupid as he. Two posts by axis, at least 20 writing errors. It's clearly evident that axis never made it past primary school--he probably still uses those fat pencils and crayons.
Speaking of poor writing skills: Hey, teenaged window-licker, what's ridence mean? Are you tweaking again?
Careful keefer, your mommy and daddy might find out you're nearly cussing and take your computer privliges away and send you to your room.
"There's an old saying . . . 'Fool me once, shame on -- shame on you. [Pause.] Fool me -- you can't get fooled again.' "
Axis,
How much? You avoid the question. Why?
Is it just spending money? Enough to supplement a job? More???
Threatens resignation? How about offers? Twice.
Your good ol' boy Rummie.
Axis, I actually have to disagree with you on your earlier point. Presidents can appoint their friends and personal lawyers to any position they want. It's a matter of qualifications and history will judge how he did his job. It would only be a conflict of interest if he was CURRENTLY the President's lawyer and the Attorney General at the same time.
Teenage, you beat me to it...Good Riddance!!!! You know as well as I we couldn't be that lucky. I have learned that Hastert conceded that what the FBI did was legal. Speaking of legal, how long before Bush pardons DeLay??? The culture of corruption is only just beginning to rear it's ugly head.
It's not a "Culture of Corruption."
It's a "Culture of Arrogant Elitism and Untouchability."
It spans BOTH political parties on BOTH ends of the spectrum. WE are the ones getting screwed every which way by BOTH parties and BOTH ends of the spectrum. And they're laughing all the way to the bank, even as we continue to subdize their mendacious and corrupt lifestyles.
VOTE FOR A THIRD PARTY - ANY THIRD PARTY - COME ELECTION TIME! It's the only option that we have left.
Actually, dbogdan, I usually never agree with you. But, on this point I do.
Our elected officials on both sides of the aisle
are pretty much bought and paid for by special interests. What the average voter thinks no longer interests them. Voters don't usually host fundraisers-lobbyists do.
Congress is no longer made up of public servants, but of egotists who would do just about anything to maintain their power. They gerrymander their districts, cater to special interests and become power brokers for those special interests after they leave office. They are well aware that third party candidates lack the financial backing and organization necessary to pose a big threat. I'm tired of voting for people who only want to protect their own hides!
JFK named his little brother as atty. general.
Yes, he did, and RFK was approved by Congress. Wonder what they were thinking! The A.G. is supposed to represent American citizens, not the executive branch. How many of them actually maintain their independence, and are not subject to pressure by the Prez?
It would only be a conflict of interest if he was CURRENTLY the President's lawyer and the Attorney General at the same time.
-- Isn't that what he is right now, only unofficially being bush's lawyer. He is protecting the administration and bush , covering up their misdeeds and corruption and trying to prevent the press from reporting on anything that will further damage bush or the administration. He is a member of the cabinet, however his chief duties are to act as head of the justice department. He should be cracking down on government corruption and sleeze, not protecting it. This is chiefly why it is a conflict of interest.
I don't get it. The Attorney General works for the President who is a Republican. Why would he care about anything that happens to a Democrat? Aren't Democrats the enemy? I think he needs to get his priorities in order or maybe the President will take him up on that & fire him for his disloyalty to his country.
Axis,
Tell us how much you make from posting. Are you ashamed?
scalefree, the Attorney General works for the American people, as does the president. He is the head of the justice department, intended to be an independant body from the executive branch to avoid conflicts of interest in the case of crooked members of the administration.
If you think his job is to go around busting democrats, you are delusional. The justice department was designed to be non-partisan, meaning that if you were crooked or corrupt, they would nail you regardless of if you were a democrat or republican.
It is a perversion of justice to use it to protect or shield republicans from justice.
Gonzalez is the one that needs investigating.
This kind of posturing is usually reserved for mob turf wars.
I won't be redundant.
Speaking of legal, how long before Bush pardons DeLay??? The culture of corruption is only just beginning to rear it's ugly head.
Yes, but the culture of stupidity rears its ugly head every time you show up, Captain (mo)Ronda. As of this post, Tom Delay hasn't been convicted of any pardonable offences, so why should Bush pardon him? Hmmm?
Regarding the substantial quote taken directly from the NY Times (re: abortions) and how it relates to what I have just read: how does it help to discredit your own source? (The NY Times is "only slightly more reliable than the National Enquirer.") Is that another Rove-style manuever, or are you just a dunderheaded ninny?
keefer, you are the one that is uninformed. Do some research into the pardoning process and you will find that a pardon can be given at any time and one needs not be convicted in order to be pardoned.
The Republican Govenor od Kentucky that was just indicted for corruption, pardoned his entire staff that participated in the corruption and did so long before they were even considering indictment.
Read about the Kentucky Republican Culture of Corruption Here