Mark,

You reference an interview on CNN's "Late Edition" to make a point, then immediately turn on the American MSM.
CNN, (Or Communist Network News) as you rightists refer to it is about as MSM as you can get.
Be careful, you don’t want to loose credibility.

Mike

There is a fair bit of difference between aquiring the "know-how" of something and actually doing it or aquiring the technology to do it.

I could aquire the "know how" on how to send a man to the moon, but its doubtful that I would be able to achieve it.

we can't afford another N. Korean "food n fuel" payoff, er...treaty fiasco like Clinton pulled.

which is another way of saying any treaty isn't worth the paper it's written on without comprehensive verification.

Ask anyone who is at all familiar with fissile enrichment, and you come up with one piece of information that even the newbiest of intelligence officers knows, we can spot a full sledged enrichment process from a mile away, how you may ask...electric outputs, the HUGE amount of upsurge needed to run the 15,000 strong cascade system tips anyone who is caring to watch, pretty much immediately...or they can take the 10 years it would require to enrich the uranium at the current cascade system...thank for playing sabre-rattlers, here is your door-prize...200,000 dead brown people and a bankrupt (morally/economically) county

3rd Eye "Open"

You mean 200,000 dead people that wouldn't hesitate blowing up your entire family with and IED or bomb belt, don't you?

Third eye open, if what you say is true, how did Clinton get tricked into allowing North korea to get nukes? Did they notice this obvious signature or did they miss it somehow?

Things oft repeated run the risk of becoming banal and trite, regardless of how much we may need to hear them. Philosopher George Santayana said in 1905: “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”

More than ever, we need to heed that warning, review and understand the history of war and atrocities in the past century and project forward what we learn to fully apprehend the peril the world faces should Iran obtain nuclear weapons.

Matthew White estimates nearly 170 million lives lost to war and major atrocities in the 20th century. Of these, approximately 125 million were attributable to the totalitarian regimes of Hitler’s Nazi Germany, militarist Japan, Stalin’s communist Russia and Mao Zedong’s communist China.

Iran today shares critical characteristics of these deadly regimes:
* the lethal concentration of unchecked power;
* the ability to sell dangerous rationalizations and justifications to its citizens;
* a dangerous and unrestrained government, in a vulnerable culture with limited tolerance for individuation and the emergence of moral conscience;
* dangerous historical and political times;
* tribal, nearly genetic hatred of outsiders.

Absent democratic checks and balances, and without the consolidated political and military will of the United States and Europe, it should be obvious to anyone with any sense of history that the insane leaders of totalitarian Iran will not stop until they have unleashed destruction on Israel, its neighbors and whomever else in the world its by-then-developed technology can reach.

China historian Iris Chang said in the Epilogue to her landmark, sobering book, "The Rape of Nanking:" “Apparently some quirk in human nature allows even the most unspeakable acts of evil to become banal within minutes, provided only that they occur far enough away to pose no personal threat.”

By indifference or appeasement, we become accomplices to Iran’s nefarious intent, as did the liberal appeasers and pacifists in America and Europe unwittingly aid and abet Germany and Japan prior to World War II. So it was that we did nothing about German and Japanese aggression in the early 1930’s, until bombs fell on Pearl Harbor a decade later.

If 9/11 was not enough for us to gauge the malevolent evil of militant Islamic extremists, what will it take, and do we really want to find out?

Iran must be stopped.

There go the Zionists again. Peace

I think its about time the israelis took the gloves off........vocally at least. For months now, the president of iran has said time and time again he wants to destroy israel. The israelis for the most part havnt directly responded. I think its now time for israelis leaders to openly state that they would respond with devastating force should iran decide to attack them. There seems to be a double standered here. The president of iran seems to be getting a pass for all the threats hes been making to another country. Yet if it were the israelis that were threating iran on a week to week basis, we all know thr UN and most of the world would be condemming them. Thats right I forgot, the israelis arent allowed to defend themselves. Silly me!

Well, at least Iran doesn't have an Iranian student organization dedicated to the destruction of Israel. Oh, wait....

I think Christopher Hitchens said it best: don't talk to the mullahs, talk to the people. Let the Iranian President's talk go on long enough for it's credibility to expire and people will start to doubt one by one. There needs to be a bigger movement to remind the population of Iran just how far excessively hard-headed leaders can lead their people into danger.(Hitler and Barbarossa, anyone?) Of course, they'll likely pull the same card for Bush, which is why I think this issue isn't going to be solved until we get some new leadership here. Too bad it probably won't wait.

And I don't believe for a second that Iran's government isn't planning to make a bomb. Pakistan and India said that until they went nuclear and made the Kashmir region a little bit hotter.

Make no mistake about it, the minute that Israel sincerly believes that Iran poses a clear and present danger to it, they will act. They are the only ones with something to lose currently.

They have acted before and will again.

Eh, I think that Israel may be playing up the Iranian threat to goad is into acting...

Besides... all of their "awesome missiles" were just modifications on old soviet models.

Not that much of a threat...

In response to the question as to why Clinton didn't know what they were doing, we transferred the technology for a HEAVY WATER reactor, which hid very well the intentions, ill let you decide why and to what end that was done...Im not going to say Clinton was the brightest crayon in the box, but we can reserve judgement calls for people whos opinions actually matter...I will say that my dollar was going a whole lot farther, and "Dear Leader" was being kept in his box faily well.

on to more pressing issues, let me ask a silly question, what happens if Iran gets a nuke...i mean realistically, (please avoid spouting off about the sabre rattling regarding Iran and Israel, all this BS about "wiping them off the face of the map" doesnt go far with people who can actually speak Farsi) they become "big dog"...WOW...now they are atleast somewhat on par with Israel as far as capability, doesn't that serve to keep TWO countries in check...now we have a an effective counterbalance to regional israeli hegemony...now Iran has to play the game of being big-dog, they are now held to the same responsibility as ever other nuclear nation...and if you think they are going to give up their trump card to terrorists, youre smoking some primo stuff there, noone, even meglomaniacs (which the whole regime obviously is) will give up power, just like Sadaam didn't give up his weapons to terrorists, neither will they, youre not going to hold a totalitarian state together by giving away weapons to masked men who you have no say when and where they will use the weapons...Despot 101

now please don't take this as me advocating anyone proliferate weapons, but if we aren't going to accept that without STRICT fissile material controls FOR EVERYONE, we invite this same issue 5 or 10 years from now with another despot...how about we consider COMPLETE disarmament, or atleast a reduction of weapons instead of a ramping up of them...you dont carry alot of weight on the international stage when you advocate everyone else give up their wants for weapons while we are stockpiling even more of them...sounds reasonable?...

ps. feel free to rip aapart my assertations at will, ciao!