Republican spin to commence immediately.

He wasn't arrested. As part of a deal he went to the County Sherrif's office and was fingerprinted and had his picture taken. Their was the technical warrant for his appearance, but he cops didn't come and get him, nor was he handcuffed. He was in and out of the Police office in 60 minutes. Read the statement from his attorneys.

He wasn't arrested. As part of a deal he went to the County Sherrif's office and was fingerprinted and had his picture taken. Their was the technical warrant for his appearance, but he cops didn't come and get him, nor was he handcuffed. He was in and out of the Police office in 60 minutes. Read the statement from his attorneys.

Rush was not arrested. He went to the Country Sherriff's office was fingerprinted and had his picture taken. All part of a negotiated settlement with the State Attorney's Office. He wanted to put this behind him.

Friend

Will Rush be a little more humble now that he is just another person being fingerprinted and having his picture taken?

Went to his website, but even through there is suppose to be a link to look at the statement from his attorney, it's not a link yet. John Gibson on his radio show says its an agreement that the DA will stop pursuing this matter if he turned himself in, entered or participated in a diversion program and didn't get in trouble for 18 months.

Just posted on the Drudge Report:

Just posted on the Drudge Report:

Settlement Agreement Ends State Investigation of Rush Limbaugh
Fri Apr 28 2006 18:59:55 ET

Palm Beach, FL – April 28, 2006 – In response to media and other inquiries, Roy Black, Rush Limbaugh’s attorney, released the following statement today concerning a settlement agreement with the Palm Beach County State Attorney’s Office to end the investigation of Mr. Limbaugh:

"I am pleased to announce that the State Attorney’s Office and Mr. Limbaugh have reached an agreement whereby a single count charge of doctor shopping filed today by the State Attorney will be dismissed in 18 months. As a primary condition of the dismissal, Mr. Limbaugh must continue to seek treatment from the doctor he has seen for the past two and one half years. This is the same doctor under whose care Mr. Limbaugh has remained free of his addiction without relapse.

“Mr. Limbaugh and I have maintained from the start that there was no doctor shopping, and we continue to hold this position. Accordingly, we filed today with the Court a plea of ‘Not Guilty’ to the charge filed by the State.

“As part of this agreement, Mr. Limbaugh also has agreed to make a $30,000 payment to the State of Florida to defray the public cost of the investigation. The agreement also provides that he must refrain from violating the law during this 18 months, must pay $30 per month for the cost of “supervision” and comply with other similar provisions of the agreement.

“Mr. Limbaugh had intended to remain in treatment. Thus, we believe the outcome for him personally will be much as if he had fought the charge and won.”

The actions taken today are as follows:

The State Attorney has filed a single charge of doctor shopping with the Court. The charge is being held in abeyance under the terms of an agreement between the State and Mr. Limbaugh.

Mr. Limbaugh has filed a plea of “Not Guilty” with the Court.

The formal agreement between Mr. Limbaugh and the State Attorney will be filed with the Court on Monday. The terms of the agreement are substantively as follows:

Ø Mr. Limbaugh will continue in treatment with the doctor he has seen for the past two and one half years.

Ø After Mr. Limbaugh completes an additional 18 months of treatment, the State Attorney has agreed to drop the charge.

Ø Mr. Limbaugh has agreed to make a $30,000 payment to the State of Florida to defray the public cost of the investigation.

Good thing he's not black and it was Oxycontin instead of crack, or we wouldn't get to hear Rush's sweet voice everyday.

So Rush wont fight for his honor? He has agreed to one count of fraud, and will pay $30K fine? Keefer, how does it make you feel knowing that your hero is a felon?

My guess is that the MSM is behind this.

maf53 sez:
"Republican spin to commence immediately."

I reply:

Democratic desperation continues ad naseum...

Um....he is not being charged with a felony.

"He wasn't arrested." -DARSR

"Rush was not arrested." -Friend

Oh, you guys are priceless. I just love it. Can Ash come back for this one - these guys are giving Noonan a run for Iraqi Information Minister. Let's try a little something called reading. From your favorite "news" source, FOX:

"WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Rush Limbaugh was arrested Friday on prescription drug charges, law enforcement officials said."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193657,00.html

I mean, what does it take for you guys to admit that one of your idols has done something wrong? Really, why is it soooooooooooooooo hard for you guys? Is it the arrogance? The pride?

He was *ARRESTED*, okay? Admit it, and get over it.

dittos for the Democrat desporation.

Gets old when all they got is hate.

I thought it was all about personal choices with you progressives?

Besides, why would he care what a piss-ant like you thinks of his honor?

"So Rush wont fight for his honor? He has agreed to one count of fraud, and will pay $30K fine? Keefer, how does it make you feel knowing that your hero is a felon?"

Barneyg2000,

You might want to read the FACTS of this case, not your desperate attempt to falsely paint the outcome...

"...The State Attorney has filed a single charge of doctor shopping with the Court. The charge is being held in abeyance under the terms of an agreement between the State and Mr. Limbaugh.

Mr. Limbaugh has filed a plea of “Not Guilty” with the Court.

...Ø After Mr. Limbaugh completes an additional 18 months of treatment, the State Attorney has agreed to drop the charge."

I can’t wait Rush’s show on Monday.

Also, the NSA is really F’ing up the Internet tonight.

This is their whacked idol. Drug addict, felon, bigot, blow hard, liar, 4 to 5 marriages, no kids (fortunately) and a chicken hawk to boot.

With "hero's" like this no wonder they elect scum bags to run our country. Talk about a confused state of philosophical,logical,spiritual and ethical existence. This man alone is responsible for the current indoctrunated class of beings that still cling to George W as some kind of 5th head to be mounted onMt Rushmore.

Barneyg2000,

Is your tin hat a wee bit tight tonight?

It's not the NSA - it's a DOS attack emanating from the Mideast - possibly Saudi Arabia.

Have you bothered to fact-check yet, or is your mind already made up?

Sean Hannity's next. I just wish Rush would do some time. I'm sure he'd have a lot of buddies in the slammer.

Wasn't he the only person in Florida ever pursued this way? I mean, doesn't that sound civil liberty alarm bells for the liberal readers here? Are you OK with using selective law enforcement to silence political speech?

Her has admitted he had a problem and already done rehab. With not most, but every other person where this has come up the charges were dropped at that point. But, 18 months of treatment and keeping his nose clean seems reasonable to buy off a vindictive DA. And - Rush makes like $20 million a year. He can afford the back-handed $30K fine, er "investigation charges".

It is pretty pathetic for liberals to attack people like this. Rush never killed anyone like Teddy Kennedy - and that guy walks on water with the liberals.

Oh I almost forgot. Bwaha...bwahahahah....BAWHAHAHAHHAHAHAAH!!!!!

Kahn,

BS. Doctors like me can lose their license and be arrested for improper prescribing to jerks like this.

Oh what glorious day!!!! But I still want jail time.

I can’t wait Rush’s show on Monday.

Also, the NSA is really F’ing up the Internet tonight.

And on a personal note, I just open a new batch of home brew. It is a porter and it is delicious. I will enjoy a cigar and a fine brew in Rush’s honor later tonight.

You're a doctor and you think it's glorious that someone had a problem with prescription pain killers?

Is it normal for the patients to go to jail for this? You reference doctors (who would be pushers in a case like this - yes?). Have you ever (in your state) ever heard of a multi-year investigation like this against an individual for doctor shopping? Have you ever heard of the DA seizing personal medical records - to establish probable cause (instead of with a warrant and with probable cause already established)? Are't medical records privaledged?

Oh, I will be lighting up a doobie in Rush's honor tonite. This is too good.

Even better, though, is watching the Repubs on this site squirm. "But .. but .. but .." Classic.

Come on, Repubs - say it with me: "He .. was .. wrong. He .. made .. a .. mistake!"

Kahn queried,
"...Wasn't he the only person in Florida ever pursued this way? I mean, doesn't that sound civil liberty alarm bells for the liberal readers here? Are you OK with using selective law enforcement to silence political speech?"

As far as I know, he is the only one..

And no, liberals don't care about civil liberties unless you're a liberal or one of their lackies or dependent upon them and their largesse. Otherwise, they haul out the long knife of the persecuting District Attorney - err prosecuting District Attorney. They revel in the misfortunes of their opponents - whom they consider to be their evil nemesis. Just like with Tom DeLay, they're attempting to criminalize political participation with which they don't agree. Oh, they'll mask it under some vague and broad rubric of some infraction or another, but we all know what this is about. It's about silencing Rush because they fear him and his ideas. They fear him because he is eloquent and persuasive - the very opposite of how they come across. And they fear him most because people are responding enthusiastically to his message.

They're losing on every front: judicial appointments, at the ballot box, and in the arena of ideas. They'd hire a hit-man to snuff every conservative so long as it couldn't be traced back to them. It's clear from the tone in their posts in just this thread alone, that these are people with no morals, no ethics, and no sense of fair play.

And when in the arena of ideas, their half-baked, potty-mouthed assertions are conclusively and decisively refuted, they resort to turning on the attack - any attack. That way, they don't have to face up to the fact that they know their adolescent delusions are without merit. Or, like Ash, they pick up their keyboards and refuse to participate any more - as if they'll be missed...

They're losers, losers, losers. They know it and it makes them furious. So they take it out on everyone they can in whatever way they can. It's all they've got. Remember: Garbage In, Garbage Out."

Michael Savage hit the nail on the head when he coined the title of one of his books:

LIBERALISM IS A MENTAL DISEASE!

maf53. Yes exactly. But he has admitted that and already done rehab.

You guys accuse us of abusing power - yet you see no problem with this? OK, so you hate Rush. You are willing to set the precedent and destroy your own rights to get him? Is hate all you have?

maf53,

I agree. He was wrong. He made a mistake.

And your point was?

muirgeo,

I see you're back with your drivel.

I'm still waiting for your response to my questions posted on the Fighting a Two-Front War thread. Did you think that if you ignored them, I'd go away. No chance. I'm here to point out to the blogisphere how idiotic your rants and raves are.

You claim to be a former Air Force officer and a physician. You give my "Brothers in Blue" and the medical profession a bad reputation with your uncompassionate, vile, and foolish comments.

Your latest posts have prompted my to add some examples to my post on the Fighting a Two-Front War thread on the ultimate hypocracy that is today's Democrat Party:

You claim to be the party of compassion, yet you squeal with glee whenever any conservative is in legal trouble or have medical problems.

You claim to be patriotic, yet you push to have the words "Under God" struck from the Pledge of Allegiance. You burn the flag of the United States of display it upside down. Leaking classified information is not patriotic, regardless of the subject of the leak. There are several ways illegal activity can be addressed, through the Inspector General Office, or through Congress. Going to the press is not one of those.

You claim to be open to new ideas for progress and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others, yet you viciously attack anyone who doesn't agree with your point of view. They are instantly labeled Nazis, racists, homophobes, or worse.

You claim to represent the poor and middle class, yet your leaders are among the richest in Congress, the entertainment world, and throughout the business community.

I urge you to continue your postings so I have additional examples to use when pointing out your hypocracy.

Oh, and one more question beyond the one I asked yesterday (Did they teach you to disregard reason, logic, and documented facts when you went through medical school, or have you incurred a serious head injury that you're not telling us about?):

When you took the Hippocratic Oath, did you misunderstand them and thought they said "hypocritical" oath? Which you seem to have been doing an excellent job of upholding.

"maf53,

I agree. He was wrong. He made a mistake.

And your point was?"

Thank you, dbog. That's all I was asking - for you guys to admit that one of your idols made a mistake.

My point? Well, read my very first post here, which was the first of the entire thread.

Then read the two comments by DARSR and Friend that follow mine. They proved my point for me.

You know. I read the hate filled and mis-informed posts of liberals, and it just shocks me. To think that so many stupid people could be so convinced of their superiority. Every once in a while I'll see a liberal have his facts striaght and make a good argument. But that is very very rare.

maf53 - your posts were made on a false premise. We do admit our mistakes. It is liberals that don't.

NOW sticking up for Clinton rather than state and federal employees accusing him of sexual harassment.

Kerry, Kennedy, and the rest of the liberal crowd opposing windmills near their summer homes on the cape. Yet no-one calls them on it.

And liberals rejoicing in a real abuse of government power because it takes someone they hate down a peg.

I can make that list much longer, but you won't get it anyways.

Kahn,

Go read my list on the Fighting a Two-Front Warthread. I posted it at 10:28 pm.

Oops, forgot to close the html tag.

"maf53 - your posts were made on a false premise. We do admit our mistakes. It is liberals that don't." -Kahn

Then how do you explain the spinning displayed by DARSR & Friend. How do you explain A10 and Dbog's blatant attempts to change the subject; to make this an issue about Dems? Last time I checked, Matt posted this as a topic about Rush, one of your Repub idols ...

maf53,

We were pointing out how hypocritical you libs are.

Rush has admitted that he has a drug addiction, caused by a chronic back problem. He entered treatment and has, by all counts, been making progress to beat his addiction. At least he was honest about the issue.

Set aside your hatred for all things conservative for one second and look at the situation: If this was anyone else but Rush Limbaugh, the DA wouldn't have bothered with an investigation or criminal charge. This was the DA's chance to make a name for himself, at Rush's expense.

Now take a look at some of your fellow libs posts:

"He has agreed to one count of fraud, and will pay $30K fine? Keefer, how does it make you feel knowing that your hero is a felon?" Barneyg2000 - No, there wasn't a count of fraud, it was a charge of doctor shopping, which he plead not-guilty to (remember that "innocent, until proven guilty thing?). It wasn't a $30K fine, he agreed to pay investigation costs. He's not a felon, any more than President Clinton is a felon for committing sexual assault against.

Or your own post: "WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Rush Limbaugh was arrested Friday on prescription drug charges, law enforcement officials said."

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,193657,00.html

I mean, what does it take for you guys to admit that one of your idols has done something wrong?"

Funny, I followed your link, which was a AP story posted on the Fox News website (that will show Fox News to believe anything the AP put out), and didn't see the word "arrest" mentioned once in the story. You weren't making thing up where you?

Further, I'll be the first, or second, or third, to admit the Rush's dependance on a pain-killer was wrong. Are you happy. And he has been in treatment for 2 1/2 years to correct this wrong.

"This is their whacked idol. Drug addict, felon, bigot, blow hard, liar, 4 to 5 marriages, no kids (fortunately) and a chicken hawk to boot." "Oh what glorious day!!!! But I still want jail time." muirgeo - These were posted by one of your fellow libs who claims to be a doctor. I'm real sure I'd like him treating me. NOT. Sure shows a great deal of compassion. Did he intern with Dr. Mengele?

The original DA wanted jail time for Rush. Jeb Bush appointed the DA to a judgeship to get him out of the way, then appointed a new DA that gave Rush a slap on the wrist.
I hate the way these Republicans pervert the course of justice.

A-10 - yah, I thought of Mengele also.

Kahn,

Great minds work together. :-)

Canadian,

RE: "Will Rush be a little more humble now that he is just another person being fingerprinted and having his picture taken?"

Absolutely not! There's no reason for that! Rush has earned the right to be a little arrogant and boastful at times, and besides, it's part of his show. Oh, and Rush is not just another person, he has more than 20 million listeners. Lots of stars have their pictures taken!

maf53,

RE: "I mean, what does it take for you guys to admit that one of your idols has done something wrong? He was *ARRESTED*, okay? Admit it, and get over it."

Yes, Rush did something wrong. I admit it. I'm over it! Rush admitted it and voluntarily spent time in drug rehab. Rush is over it! I really am glad he won't miss any more time from his radio show defending himself in court on this issue. I'm sure other liberal prosecutors will continue to search and dig though.

Barneyg2000,

RE: "So Rush wont fight for his honor? He has agreed to one count of fraud, and will pay $30K fine?"

Rush pleaded "not guilty". He wasn't convicted of anything. What happened to your standard liberal reply for terrorists, killers, rapists, felons, or other criminals... "innocent until proven guilty"? Surely you would want the ACLU to defend Rush against the minor charge against him, right?

As I read the story, Rush isn't paying a fine, he is paying $30,000 to defray the costs of the investigation which has taken the prosecutor more than two years (and who knows how many taxpayer dollars) to get one charge -- not a conviction -- of committing fraud to obtain prescription drugs. Rush will also pay $30 a month for "supervision" and even the one charge will be dropped in 18 months.

The $30,000 is very cheap compared to what it would have cost in dollars, time, and distractions if Rush wanted to fight this in court. Rush will no longer be distracted by this case and can get back to fighting liberals!

muirgeo,

RE: "Sean Hannity's next..."

You wish! Did you hear the news?

Air America's flagship liberal radio station in New York City is being dumped this summer!

Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity had the highest-rated radio talk shows in the New York City market from January through March.

I thought New York City was more "liberal" than that. Let's hope the New York Times is next to go!

I would encourage all of you liberals to listen to Rush for a week or two and hear what the liberal callers have to say. Perhaps some of you would like to call in. I'll be listening. Be careful though, you might learn something.

AAR

"You claim to be the party of compassion, yet you squeal with glee whenever any conservative is in legal trouble or have medical problems."
A-10

Yes, I am a compassionate person....so much so that I squeal with glee when some one with so little compassion, so mean spirited so hypocritical, so self centered and on and on gets his comeuppance.

You claim to be patriotic, yet you push to have the words "Under God" struck from the Pledge of Allegiance. You burn the flag of the United States of display it upside down. Leaking classified information is not patriotic, regardless of the subject of the leak. There are several ways illegal activity can be addressed, through the Inspector General Office, or through Congress. Going to the press is not one of those.

A-10

Just a bunch of lies and made up stuff. I've never burnt the flag.

The president is a leaker himself and a liar at that. Sure you can claim he declassifeid the informattion before he leaked it. But what he did leak was not the full report that showed there was no truth to the plutonium from Africa story. He knowingly tried to desieve the public as well as discredit Joe Wilson with false information.

I'm a patriot....if you think the president is breaking the law and lying you would be unpatriotic not to speak out.

Rush went into rehab after he got busted. His mule, I mean housekeeper, squealed on Rush’s $10K per month habit. Keep spinning conservatives. It just kills you guys when one of your own turns out to be your average dirt-bag.

A-10,

I think it's important we support the poor. I have no problem with wealth as long as it is legally and ethically obtained. Actors and athletes IMO deserve the money the earn. No one HAS to go see them perform. CEO's fed by corrupt boards undermining their companies, stock holders..and who undermine democracy and the markets often do not deserve their wealth.

From bdogan, “liberals don't care about civil liberties unless you're a liberal or one of their lackies..”

I guess you forgot that the ACLU went to court on drugieRush’s behalf when the DA went after drugieRush’s medical records?

maf53 said,
"Oh, I will be lighting up a doobie in Rush's honor tonite. This is too good."

Barneyg2000 stated,
"And on a personal note, I just open a new batch of home brew. It is a porter and it is delicious. I will enjoy a cigar and a fine brew in Rush’s honor later tonight."

Pour that brew, lefties. Light that doobie, too! According to the standards that you've so clearly laid out by your own postings on this thread and others on this site, I can reasonably state without equivocation, that that makes you self-admitted alcoholics and drug addicts. So, essentially, you're just like Rush Limbaugh, right? That's probably why you loathe him, because in him, you've focused all of your inadequacies. You haven't got the courage to look yourself in the mirror and see what you really are.

Oh, I forgot! When it comes to your own actions and personal responsibility, you talk out of the OTHER side of your face!

For all your shadenfreude over this current phase of the Rush Limbaugh incident, come Monday, you'll still be boozing and drugging and Rush will be ... on the air again, making tons of money and changing hearts and minds across the fruited plains. And in eighteen months, assuming that all parties hold true to the plea agreement, Rush will have nothing on his record. The one singular charge will have been dropped. And you'll still be drug addicts and alcoholics, burning with hatred and self-loathing. He'll still be just a lovable little fuzzball.

Kick him when he's down, since that gives you such morose pleasure. Apparently, that's all you've got to revel in: in others' tribulations. But his fine - hell! He makes that in about 1 hour! Seems like he did a shrewd thing by paying off that partisan hack of a persecuting - err prosecuting District Attorney. He's just following one of the libs' most favorite methodologies - redistributing capital via kickbacks and bribes to keep people happy and going along with "the plan."

And by all means - please keep posting your half-baked, potty-mouthed, intellectually vapid and disingenuous thoughts. I want you to go on the record so we can look back at some point in the future when you and your failed political philosophy are only a distant memory. We'll pinch ourselves just to make sure this isn't all just a fitful dream - and remind ourselves of just how destructive you and your people are to our communities and our nation.

Just remember: What's good for the goose is good for the gander. If your chosen lowlifes ever get back into the seat of power, they can expect nothing less than our withering scorn and derision at every turn. You've chosen to express the politics of fear, anger, and hatred in this and pretty much every instance in which I've read your drivel.

Karma is a powerful thing. You'd better hope that one of your celebrated "leaders" doesn't get any dirt dug up on them, because there WILL be hell to pay!! You've set the standard here. Don't be surprised when it comes back to bite you in the ass!!

Rush Limbaugh rules!!!

Liberalism is a mental disorder.

Oh, and one more question beyond the one I asked yesterday (Did they teach you to disregard reason, logic, and documented facts when you went through medical school, or have you incurred a serious head injury that you're not telling us about?):

A-10

You wanna debate witn me paln on a logical bitch-slapping.

These threads do suck becaus people stop posting once they go off the first page. I asked the owners to do an open thread each day so ongoing debates and other issues could be discussed. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do so.

Anyway I'll meet you all you want at "Fighting a two front war". I'm really interested in deep political philosophical discussions but most people aren't up to it...rather just ad hom and name call.

It's unfortunate when anyone has a drug problem.

To say that I don't agree with the guy would be an understatement. If it's true, hopefully this will be the event that gets him on the track to being clean.

I wish him the best.

dbogdan,

So is it OK for money to influence the electoral and policy making process?

Is it possible that people with more money have more say in the political process?

Do you think the people who pay most of the taxes do so because they make most of the money which they do so in large part because they control the policy making with all the money they make. And thus control corporate welfare. Do you believe the top 1% of Americans do 20% of the work? Because they are paid 20% of the wages.

Bottom line is you seem to think corporate welfare is no big problem..where as I see as one of the biggest threats to our democracy...more of a threat then terrorism or global warming. And it's not because I'm a socialist or a communist. Its because I believe in a more democratic and fair system then we have....the democratic system is terribly corrupted by money from the wealthy which not only undermines democracy but also free markets. I believe I am more a supporter of Democracy and Free markets then you are.

Some one like you thinks he's supporting free markets but in fact you are supporting corporatism. Some one like you thinks he's for reducing the size of government but as the last 6 years show the republicans and the corporatist do well when they spend huge amounts of our money.

You support big government, corporatism and an undermining of democracy. I support democracy (uncorrupted by money influence and I support free and fair markets that do not whore out our government).

You think you are a supporter of business but you are a supporter of Multinational corporations and you are happy to give them preference over small home grown businesses.

I never used to believe that morongeo was a doc. the only thing that could convince me is..all of my doc friends..especially the trauma surgeons..think they are smarter than anyone re. anything...of course, they aren't ..but that's what makes them good surgeons...they have no fear...
now morongeo is another matter...a typical case of projection. he accuses others of what he does naturally and intentionally.

Barneyg2000 quoted me,
"From bdogan, “liberals don't care about civil liberties unless you're a liberal or one of their lackies..”

I guess you forgot that the ACLU went to court on drugieRush’s behalf when the DA went after drugieRush’s medical records?"

Wow! I did not know that! If, indeed that is true (and since you assert it, I am immediately suspicious as to its veracity) then someone over at the ACLU must have been really, really high on drugs or didn't realize that it was actually a - GASP! - CONSERVATIVE that they were defending.

Hmm... It took them since 1917 to finally find a case that they were willing to take on that actually had some validity. Will wonders never cease?

Even a broken clock is correct two times each day.

muirgeo,

I never said you did. I was using "you" as a reference to liberals in general. You are pretty touchy there. Maybe you did a little flag burning, way back when. Its OK to admit it. Your buddy Bill Clinton was involved in a little flag burning while in England in 1969.

Get your facts straight before posting. If the President authorizes the release of information to the press, IT IS NOT A LEAK. No matter how many times you call it a "leak", IT IS NOT A LEAK. A "leak" is when someone with information releases it to the press without authorization. Get it.

He declassified the parts of the October 2002 NIE which indicated the level to which Iraq was continuing its WMD program, to include its nuclear ambitions. The actual background briefing is here. As you can see, IT IS NOT A LEAK, but an actual briefing to reporters.

You are right about the plutonium, however. It is a fact that Saddam never procured plutonium from Africa. You see, plutonium is not found in nature, it is produced in a nuclear reactor. It was not plutonium he sought, it was yellowcake. Yellowcake is refined and enriched to make weapons-grade uranium. The Britich continue to stand by their intelligence that Iraq sought uranium (yellowcake). In fact, Iraq had in excess of 500 tons of yellowcake. Since uranium is not found in natural deposits in Iraq, where do you suppose they got it? I seriously doubt three of the leading producers of uranium (Ausralia, Canada, and the USA) sold it to them, I'm guessing the got it from African sources or Russia.

The President was not attempting to desieve [sic] anyone. He was countering the lies of Joe Wilson with the facts. I cannot believe you think that Joe Wilson was telling the truth. Everyone (except the koolaide brigade of the left) have seen the documented proof that he lied about his mission to Niger. Or are you in denial.

You can think that the President is breaking the law all you want. But you are delusional. Exactly what law are you accusing him of breaking?

muirgeo stated,

"So is it OK for money to influence the electoral and policy making process?

Is it possible that people with more money have more say in the political process?"

Ask Ted Kennedy. Ask Bill Clinton. Ask John Kerry. By the way, did you know that he served in Vietnam and got three purple hearts? Ask any of your Demublican leaders. They are the masters at such things. Funny thing, though - they always seem to find a way to make sure that it's SOMEONE ELSE'S MONEY!!!

dbogdan,

Can you enlighten me as to the sources of Ted Kennedy's and John Kerry's money? Did they earn it as captains of industry? As crafty wizards of Wall Street? Did they use their entrepreneurial spirit to start a business from scratch and build it into a shining example of what hard work and determination can do? Enquiring minds want to know.

A10, wrote: “In fact, Iraq had in excess of 500 tons of yellowcake.”

Hey you final wrote something that is correct. In fact, they purchased most of it from Niger, and the rest from their own production, but guess what, they got it all before the gulf war, and under the UN agreement, the yellow cake (500 metric tons) and 200 metric tons of low grade uranium was placed under UN seal, and A10, guess what else? After the UN inspectors were allowed back in to Iraq, guess what they found under UN seals? That is right, 500 tons of yellow cake and 200 tons of uranium.

It makes you wonder why Saddam would try to buy yellow-cake, when he already had 500 tons of it?

A10, could you please enlighten us on how George “W” made his fortune? Maybe by running a few oil companies into the ground, or was it from daddy?

A-10,

From you very own link;

"Finally, the claims of Iraqi pursuit of natural uranium in Africa are, in INR's assessment, highly dubious."

A-10,

When the president releases only part of the report that seems to go against Joe Wilsons claims but knowingly leaves out the summary that prooves Joe Wilsons claims that's a lie.

Hey don't worry W is gonna get a lot of time to talk about this stuff to congress and the Special prosecuter just after the elections.

Blarney,

"It makes you wonder why Saddam would try to buy yellow-cake, when he already had 500 tons of it?"

Duh, if I was him and I wanted to continue my nuclear ambitions and all of my yellowcake was under UN lock and key, I'd go back to the source and try to get some more. Not to hard to figure out.

"A10, could you please enlighten us on how George “W” made his fortune? Maybe by running a few oil companies into the ground, or was it from daddy?"

Posted by: Barneyg2000

According to Slate magazine, George W. Bush has a net worth of around $9 million to $26 million, most of it representing the value of him Crawford ranch. Pretty well off, but hardly a "fortune".

I hope they keep the druggy scum off the streets and off the airwaves.

Mu HA HA HA MU HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

"When the president releases only part of the report that seems to go against Joe Wilsons claims but knowingly leaves out the summary that prooves Joe Wilsons claims that's a lie."

Posted by: muirgeo

First of all, the oral report that Joe Wilson gave to the CIA strengthened the case that Iraq was attempting to procure additional uranium. It did not discredit those claims. It was in his NYT op-ed that he changed his story and claimed he debunked the claim, which he had not. The report of the Intelligence Committee documented Wilson's lies. Or were they all wrong?

Second, have you seen the rest of the October 2002 NIE that was not declassified? The part that confirms Wilson's claims? It would appear that if the entire NIE was not released, the rest is classified. It is quite a leap to conclude that if only part of the NIE was released, the part that was not released must confirm Wilson's claims. That's pure moonbat talk.

You guys have been drinking too much koolaide. I'm going to bed.

A10 queried,
"Can you enlighten me as to the sources of Ted Kennedy's and John Kerry's money? Did they earn it as captains of industry? As crafty wizards of Wall Street? Did they use their entrepreneurial spirit to start a business from scratch and build it into a shining example of what hard work and determination can do? Enquiring minds want to know."

Ted Kennedy inherited his money from his father, Joe Kennedy, who was a an illegal rum running thug during prohibition. So that classifies the whole clan's fortune as coming from illegal activity. Then Joe Kennedy parlayed his way into respectability with the Roosevelt Administration, so that h is sordid past was whitewashed into respectibility. When Ted wasn't busy being kicked out of his college for allegedly having someone else take his exams, and when he wasn't busy driving drunk and killing innocent women, he insinuated himself into the U.S. Senate by snookering the apparently gullible population of Massachusetts. He lives off of the interest of the money that his father earned illegally. As such, he's nothing more than a two-bit son of a gangster.

John Kerry came back from Vietnam, gathering up fake purple hearts to get him out early. Then he furthered his career as a gigolo, marrying into money. He's about as big of a scam artist as you'll find anywhere. But he was for being a gigolo... before being against it.

Bill Clinton conned his way into money while his wife invested in cattle futures, turning thousands of dollars into millions. Then they both engaged in dubious investment schemes (for which they escaped prosecution) until he landed the cush job of President and Fellatee-in Chief with Monica Lewinsky.

At least George W. Bush attempted to earn money the old fashioned way - by working for it. He was unsuccessful at times, but at least he didn't suck of the teat of someone else's labor.

Thanks for asking!

muirgeo commented (once the buzzing in the head receded),

"...Some one like you thinks he's supporting free markets but in fact you are supporting corporatism. Some one like you thinks he's for reducing the size of government but as the last 6 years show the republicans and the corporatist do well when they spend huge amounts of our money.

You support big government, corporatism and an undermining of democracy. I support democracy (uncorrupted by money influence and I support free and fair markets that do not whore out our government).

You think you are a supporter of business but you are a supporter of Multinational corporations and you are happy to give them preference over small home grown businesses."
_______________

And you know who I support and why I support them because...?

Is your tin hat picking up my brainwaves or are my dental fillings sending you these "facts"?

Do not attempt to adjust your TV set. We have control of the horizontal controls, and the vertical controls. All your thoughts belong to us. The truth is out there. Succumb to the dark force, for resistance is futile.

Put down the pipe, and walk away. Nobody will get hurt...

I guess that's about as philosophical as you can get uh dbogdan? Frickin ROM-brain.

muirgeo,

It makes as much sense as your ramblings - perhaps more...

I'm still waiting for documentation as to where you got the information about who I support and why... I don't recall entering into any such discussion with you at any point in the past in this post or any other.

You can continue to make up "stuff" about where I stand and why as long as you like. But clearly, you've pulled these assertions right out of your posterior sphincter muscle with no regard to any basis in fact.

That's why I chose to mock your assertions.

I wouldn't deign to enter into any philosophic discussion with an idiot such as you, since you are clearly willing to fabricate whatever you wish to further your agenda without any basis in reality.

You might want to adjust your tin hat now. I think I'm seeing a ghost pattern on your TV set. Oh, wait! It's a message from the great beyond. It's saying that George W. Bush is from an evil planet and is here to subjugate the population of earth for his evil ambitions...

Don't you have an innard to cut up or something? Stop wasting bandwith with this drivel...

Just so we don't all lose focus. This topic is SUPPOSED TO BE about Rush Limbaugh and the most recent legal maneuvers...

But what should that stop you? You're on a roll!

Oops!

I meant to say "WHY should that stop you?"

So spare me the correction...

WILL YOU PEOPLE JUST STOP FOR A SECOND!!!!!!

It sounds like a grade school playground in here, as it ALWAYS does. I have come to the conclusion that the only thing that is ever going to happen is that Conservatives and Liberals will do NOTHING but go back and forth, accusing each other of the EXACT same things.

GROW UP!!!!!

I am glad to see some Conservatives admit that Rush Limbaugh is not perfect. He is actually an ass, and not because he is Conservative. Bcause he is a rotten person. But then they go and accuse Liberals of being arrogant. It's pathetic.
Many Conservatives, like Mark and Matt here, refuse to admit that anyone they like can do anything wrong. I guess many Libs look at Ted Kennedy and do the same thing though.

The point is that all anyone here on B4B ever does is BABIFIED grade school crap, and it always come back to "I'm right, you're wrong, Ha ha."
It's pathetic! And guess what, it is MOST OFTEN Conservatives I see who are arrogant and insulting. And always blaming Liberals for anything they can.

STOP THE PROPAGANDA BS!!!

STOP THE BRAINWASHED LOYALTY!!!!

Christians preach about being humble, how about the Conservatives show some HUMILITY!!!!

Wow, leave it to George(I'm beginning to think the dumbest doctor alive) & Maf to take a non-issue and make it one! It's almost like talking about Britney Spears dropping her kid on his head!

Let me get this straight. A man that makes liberals shake in there boots cause he makes common sense an every day affair for the masses pleads " NOT GUILTY" to charges that really are a stretch in the first place! Now remember this later boyz, it may come in handy, he plead " NOT GUILTY" to charges that will be dropped in eighteen months if he continues to do what he volunteered to do and has continued to do for quite some time now! HMMMMMMMMMMMMM.......... sounds like a non-issue to me! But then on the other hand guys like George & Maf or so afraid of this rich republican druggy that they will make an issue out of anything! I wonder what they(George & Maf) think of that druggy boyfriend of Kate Moss injecting drugs into an unconscious girl on his dirty liberal kitchen floor! Probably doesn't bother Doc George much eh! Nor the doobie smoker!

You guys continue to entertain us.....nightly, thanks!

Hmmmmmmmm......... just a thought,
plame-dead-issue
libby-dead-issue
NSA-dead-issue
CIA-dead-issue
losing the war-dead-issue-very soon!
losing to Al-quaeda-bwaaahaahahaaaaaahahaaaaaa-has been dead issue since 9/11.
Bad Economy-dead issue

Real issues:
spending control!
oil drilling here!
border control!
Tax cuts permanent!
Iran/Nuclear!

I don't think I made my point to George & Maf in my last post! Guys, put it behind you, we have! The guy did not plead guilty & WILL NOT be charged with anything if he keeps his nose clean! So your claims of felon & of glee are unfounded and way beyond what you guys really can intellectually grasp! Am I wrong guys? I don't think so! Any lawyers out there that want to tell us if Limbaugh is a felon that's going to do time?

Thanks bearmancUSMC for steering us back to the actual topic under discussion... I got tired of trying, and admit that I veered off topic from time to time.

It's good to see you checking back and letting your opinion be known!

"Drug use, some might say, is destroying this country," Mr. Limbaugh said on his short-lived television program on Oct. 5, 1995. "And we have laws against selling drugs, pushing drugs, using drugs, importing drugs."

He added, "And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up."

On the same show, he commented that the statistics that show blacks go to prison more often than whites for the same drug offenses only illustrated that "too many whites are getting away with drug use."

How true.

Charges:
893.13-370 Fraud-Conceal Info to Obtain Prescription

All of the info is at the Palm Beach County Sheriff's Office. Click on booking blotter.

Passed without comment
-Joe

when I can dbog...... when I can! Some ones got to pay for all these "compassionate" liberals programs right? the current trolls are broken records anyways, we know how extreme and extremely absurd they are!

I love Rush Limbaugh. Anyone who listens to him for very long knows that he says much of what he says about himself in fun. He is the Godfather of Talk Radio. Anyone who wants to be anyone wants to be like Rush and have the audience he has (even those libs on Air America). Rush IS a rush. I'm a loyal fan. He is awesome in my book!

Highlander,

There is, however, a stunning difference between someone who gets hooked on painkillers because of an extraordinarily painful surgery and someone who, say, is selling drugs on the street to all comers...

Limbaugh has admitted breaking the law and is paying the penalty set via the law - this is right and just, but it is slander for anyone to compare Limbaugh's case with that of a run-of-the-mill drug addict or drug pusher.

I'm married to a lady who has a bad back condition...the pain is excruciating at times for her, and I can easily see how people in that situation get hooked on painkillers...thank God the Mrs hasn't had to go through that, but if she ever did, I wouldn't be advacting sending her up for five years because of it.

"I never used to believe that morongeo was a doc. the only thing that could convince me is..all of my doc friends..especially the trauma surgeons..think they are smarter than anyone re. anything...of course, they aren't..." xango annie

Do you know what they call the guy who graduates last in his med school class???

...Doctor (scary huh?)

Morongo has variously claimed to be a doctor and claimed to be raising his child while living off $70,000 per year in investments, (while at the same time condemning corporate america). Hmmmm not to successful for a doctor. I wonder if he's sitting on the sidelines due to malpractise.

I love Rush Limbaugh. Anyone who listens to him for very long knows that he says much of what he says about himself in fun. He is the Godfather of Talk Radio. Anyone who wants to be anyone wants to be like Rush and have the audience he has (even those libs on Air America). Rush IS a rush. I'm a loyal fan. He is awesome in my book!

Posted by: bethtopaz

Allow me to translate.

I'm a mindless ditto-head....I need help thinking. Rush helps my brain think. I want to be like Rush... a proven serial liar with 4 wives. Rush make me say GOOD things and I to want to be a convicted drug fellon too. Rush make my brain think...Rush help me to say things...I like Rush...I want to be Rush. Ditto ditto...I'm a happy little freakin ditto head....me like Rush.....he fills my brain full of mush with his thoughts.

I never thought I'd see the day that left wing fanatics would be cheering the fact Rush was found "not guilty"

"Highlander,

There is, however, a stunning difference between someone who gets hooked on painkillers because of an extraordinarily painful surgery and someone who, say, is selling drugs on the street to all comers...

Limbaugh has admitted breaking the law and is paying the penalty set via the law - this is right and just, but it is slander for anyone to compare Limbaugh's case with that of a run-of-the-mill drug addict or drug pusher."

Mark . OMG!!!!!!
While i may disagree with your political views I have always respected you for having the courage of your convictions. Today you have just lost ANY respect that I ever had for you with that post. How pathetic has this new conservative movement become that it's practiciners and prophets are now playing these justification games!!! OH He's not THAT bad cause he did his drugs in a mansion and not on the street corner? PAH-LEASEEEEEEEE!!!!!! Conservatives who think in this way have lost any moral authority they ever had to run this country. You have, like many in you movement, lost your way.
Shame on you!!
Finally Rush Limbaugh has shown American what a useless, two faced, cowardly loser he is . Don't go down like that by championing this pathetic scum bag.

bethtopaz,

I and millions of Americans wholeheartedly agree with you!

Encourage your friends to listen too. America needs more thinkers like you!

Talked about mush-brained. I wonder how many of Rush's entire broadcasts muirgeo (and our other liberal commenters) has actually heard recently and understood. If liberals would listen to Rush occasionally (many actually do), maybe they would have a better understanding of facts, or at least be better prepared in their arguments and diatribes.

Media accounting firms indicate that Rush Limbaugh has the highest factual-accuracy in the political radio talk arena with 98.5% accuracy, unlike muirgeo's ramblings which mindlessly repeat the same old liberal party line gibberish on this and every other topic day after day.

I think conservative blog sites (liberals ones too!) should be encouraging their readers to listen to shows like Rush Limbaugh's, Sean Hannity's, and of course Fox Network News (until we get a real conservative network anyway).

CJ, You're right. I'm glad to see that so many liberals are concerned about Rush!!!

AAR

There is, however, a stunning difference between someone who gets hooked on painkillers because of an extraordinarily painful surgery and someone who, say, is selling drugs on the street to all comers...

but it is slander for anyone to compare Limbaugh's case with that of a run-of-the-mill drug addict or drug pusher.

Noonan for Iraqi Information Minister!

Slander, really Mark? You don't think the run-of-the-mill drug addict has any pain in their life? Do you know anything about addictions? I know that you have to say this to be loyal to your team but it really is a load of crap.

But, I guess in a different way you may actually be correct. Rush's case is completely different because he will not serve any jail time, he is rich and white, and abused prescription pills which gets you a lesser punishment than crack or cocaine or herioin, etc. Oxycontin is every bit as powerful and potentially dangerous when abused as the drugs mentioned above, but since rich white people tend to be the ones abusing pills they carry a much lesser punishment in most areas.

Mark

Brokeback Mountain here actually proves your point. Of course he's far too stupid to realize it. As someone who is on both Vicodin and Methadone for Peripheral Neuropathy I understand the power of these pain killers. Since my condition is chronic I'll always be on them but if for some reason the doctor were to cut off my prescriptions I'm not sure what I'd do. It's not like I went out and tried to score some crank.

Thanks for proving Marks point Bareback

For all the Iraqi Information Ministers out there:

"Although Black urged reporters not to call it an arrest -- because Limbaugh turned himself in and was never handcuffed -- a sheriff's spokesman said technically he was under arrest during his booking."

http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/04/28/limbaugh.booked/index.html

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Thats all you got maf53? How sad and pathetic!

I'm back by popular demand (thanks maf53) for a limited engagement.

Rush was not arrested. He went to the Country Sherriff's office was fingerprinted and had his picture taken

You say po-tah-to, I say po-tay-to. Bottom line is he broke the law and admitted so by pleading a deal. Fortunately for him he had 30 grand to buy his way out. Fortunately for him his dealer was Purdue Pharma, not Snoop Pharma Doggie on the corner. Fortunately for him it was oxycontin, not marijuana.

Why the extra glee? It is always fun to catch a hypocrite get what he deserves. This is a man with "talent on loan from God" A man who professes to know all the answers and prescribe how we should live. And he uses his housekeeper as a drug mule! I felt the same way the first time I heard the story of David and Goliath. In this case it was the legal system that smote the fat head and extracted justice.

maf53, tonight I join you by lighting up a J blowing smoke rings ala Rush and laughing at the top of my lungs:

Bwahahahahaha!!!!

Will be back for cameos occasionally. Will be back at the end of October full time so I can laugh uncontrollably after the mid term elections!

Mark's point is that it is excusable for Rush to be an addict because he had back pain, but other addicts have no excuse. He believes Rush is different than the "run-of-the-mill" addicts. He believes there is a "stunning difference". What he does not understand is that almost every addict has pain in their life that is the base cause for their addiction. They find a drug that relieves that pain and everything is great. Then they begin to rely on that drug and need more and more of it until their life is consumed with the taking of the drug. In this regard Rush's case is no different than any "run-of-the-mill" drug addict which Rush is one of. I know Mark cannot admit to that because it might look bad for his team, but that is the reality of the situation. Mark tried to claim it would be slanderous for someone to say such a thing, but that is just his scare tactic to try and prevent anyone from recognizing what really has happened.

What is funny is that his lawyer claims he has not relapsed since he started treatment, but also admits that last year he spent 7 months taking prescribed hydrocodone. He was taking 8 of them a day! Hydrocodone is just another pain killer like oxycontin. Does this really count as not relapsing? I mean he was prescribed them, but if you take 8 hydrocodones in one day you will be stoned, extremely stoned.

Perjury, obstruction of justice, oral sex, intern, inhilation, grand jury and impeachment.

There is one thing in common with all of those. You may have guessed it. It’s Bill Clinton. Our 42nd President. You guys are attacking a pundit, and our 42nd President lied to a federal grand jury and obstructs justice and gets away with it? WOW.

“I want to say one thing to the American people. I’m going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie. Not a single time. Never. These allegations are false and I need to go back to work for the American people.”

– Bill Clinton

“If a President of the United States ever lied to the American people, he should resign.”

– Bill Clinton July, 1974

And you people talk about hypocracy!!

hahahaha.

Bareback

Once again you've proved Marks point and you don't even know it. What percentage of crank, heroin, crystal meth, etc....use those for pain? Are you starting to get it yet?

And by the way, it depends on what milligrams you're taking. In winter I have been prescribed as many as 10 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day. In the summer it's dropped to 4 a day. Even on 10 a day I put in 12 hour days at work. I see you've never been on hydrocodone for more than a week at a time.

Ok, it's official..morongeo is not a doc..at best, maybe he worked in a hospital..an orderly, perhaps...and he has/had access to mind altering drugs!!!!Nothing else but drugs could make him spew the insanity he does.
But, I'm telling him that all that bile is seriously going to damage his gut..but, of course, being a doc and all , he can fix that!!!

Once again you've proved Marks point and you don't even know it. What percentage of crank, heroin, crystal meth, etc....use those for pain?

As I previously stated, almost any drug addict you find is doing it because of pain. Rush is no different than them. Mark's point is that Rush is different than them, he is wrong. What percentage of street drug users do you think are doing it because of pain?

And by the way, it depends on what milligrams you're taking. In winter I have been prescribed as many as 10 7.5/500 hydrocodone per day. In the summer it's dropped to 4 a day. Even on 10 a day I put in 12 hour days at work.

I don't know what you are trying to prove with this? Of course you can work while high on drugs. People do it everyday all over this country. Throughout your day you will do business with stoned employees numerous times. The fact of the matter is that prescription drugs are still drugs that can get you high. That is the whole point of them. Can someone claim to be "clean" or "having not relapsed" when they are using the same type of drug they were addicted to? Can I be an alocholic who claims they are sober, but does drink 2 beers a day because it is good for my heart? I don't really care about arguing this point; I just thought it was funny.

I'm not a big Rush fan but I do listen to him sometimes, partly because he is carried by a very powerful radio station that comes in no matter where I happen to be driving.

I heard him talk very openly and candidly about his addiction, in the first few days affer he returned from rehab, and I was deeply moved and sincerely impressed.

He explained that he started taking medication for severe pain, got hooked---and then he took it to get high. He made no excuses, no apologies. He was very frank about the harm the addiction did to him and his life and relationships. He said he turned away from people becaue the only time he could get high was when he was alone, and that became the most important thing to him. He sounded sincere, humbled, chastened, and like a man who had just learned some very important things about life, and about himself.

I had expected some excuses, some justification. I was so impressed at his willingness to tell it like it was, pulling no punches. And because of that, I was confident that he would not go back to using drugs again.

The "arrest" was a big phony non-story. He has known all along there were legal ramifications for what he did. He's talked about that. Is it really a surprise that a drug addi