Probably written by an AP reporter no doubt? This is becoming the new big scandal.
Posted by: Tina at April 9, 2006 10:03 AM
Mark
Dishonesty comes in all shapes & sizes and in all political parties. To make the assumption that this was a Republican, goes to the fact that we have become saturated by the pervasive abuses of this administration.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 9, 2006 10:27 AM
I would expect you will hear nothing from the 'bat brigade that haunts (pollutes?) these parts on this obvious bias by an overtly left paper.
Posted by: GOP 4 ME at April 9, 2006 12:59 PM
Washington Post Editorial supports Bush in the non-story leak issue. They even state that it is Wilson who is the liar.
Posted by: Tina at April 9, 2006 02:00 PM
Funny, I seem to recall that the Rep. was identified as a Democrat in the cutline that accompanied the story. Maybe you just have to be a more careful reader.
Posted by: Salvelinus at April 9, 2006 02:35 PM
Funny, the cutline that accompanied the article identified the rep. as a, "the senior Democrat on the House ethics committee." Somehow you folks apparently missed that -- you need to pay more attention to your reading and a little less time barking at the moon.
Posted by: Salvelinus at April 9, 2006 02:42 PM
Personally I hope they put the bum in jail, you steal from us - go to jail and not the soft as a twinkie Club Fed for members of congress. Leavinworth, KS.
Continuing on with the media basis I came acroos this quote from Sen. Burns.
*The congressman has vowed to stay in the race, "even if I'm indicted."*
Could we be seeing the republican war cry of '06?
-Joe
Posted by: -Joe at April 9, 2006 05:01 PM
According to the AP Stylebook, you should let relevance be the guide here. I guess this tells you all you need to know about the AP.
However it does go on to explain, "Party affiliation is pointless in some stories, such as an account of a governor accepting a button from a poster child. It will occur naturally in many political stories. For stories between these extremes, include party affiliation if readers need it for understanding or are likely to be curious about what it is."
I would say, in this day and age of the culture of corruption, it is definitely NEEDED in the first reference of the actual story. Just to clarify, if for no other reason.
Posted by: cc at April 9, 2006 05:05 PM
Salvelinus is right, the headline under the photo for the story clearly states that Mollohan is a Democrat.
But I guess that's not what you guys WANT to see, so you ignore it. Just like your idol the beloved Pres. Cheney... er Bush.
There is no liberal bias at NYT just because they don't mention that Mollohan is a Dem, for the SECOND time, for 315 words. Also, the Dems aren't mired in a huge and disgusting ethics crisis like the Republicans, with dozens of leading conservative GOPers (including one trying to become my Senator, Katherine "Mitchell Wade" Harris) on the verge of jail time, so of course that's not going to be the first thing they mention.
It's pretty sick that conservatives are counting words in a newspaper article just to prove that ther's a liberal media bias. You must have quite a bit of time on your hands.
This guy is a greedy jerk, but he's no different from the myriad Republicans that have done things that are a heck of a lot worse than Mollohan.
And finally, I wouldn't mind seeing Tom DeLay and Bob Ney in Gitmo actually.
www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
www.sunstateactivist.org
Posted by:
LCL at April 9, 2006 05:16 PM
In the interest of intellectual integrity, I have to admit that the party affiliation was mentioned in the photo byline. And the UPI ran the story with his party affiliation in the first sentence. This was not the best example that might have been used after all.
A better example might perhaps be the overall coverage of William jefferson (D-La). He's currently under federal indictment after months of investigation by the FBI for some weird convoluted ties to a Nigerian official involving wire fraud and some sort of a telecommunications company. While the Dems are screaming and pounding their fists on the table about the Republicrats' "culture of corruption," and the antique media is trumpeting their message far and wide, very, very little is printed or reported about William Jefferson (D-La). When I just did a Google search for "William+Jefferson+scandal," I came up with about 2.5 million hits. Of the top 10, only three were about William Jefferson (D-La). Who do you suppose the others were all about? Hmmmm?
In any event, you don't see the antique media making a huge deal of the bribery and mail fraud charges for this Louisiana Democrat, do you? It's nowhere near the outcry like Duke Cunningham, Tom DeLay or any of their associates allegedly involved in the "Abramoff affair."
And what about everyone's favorite crazy black woman Congressman, Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga). Once she stopped making her daily vitriolic press conferences and "apologized" on the floor of Congress, it seems like, as far as the antique media is concerned, "all is forgiven." Forget the fact that she allegedly broke House rules in spending $1000 to fly Isaac Hayes to Atlanta to help open a district office and claimed that it was spent for "office supplies." Once there, he allegedly attended a fundraiser that night, and raised an unspecified amount of money for the Congressman, against Federal Election Commission statutes. So far, hardly a peep out of the mouths of the antique media. Had it been a white male Republicrat, you can bet that he'd have been tried, convicted and executed in the press by now..;.
Posted by: dbogdan at April 9, 2006 07:53 PM
dbogdan
I don't believe that Rep. William Jefferson was the third most powerful person the the U.S. government at the time of his alleged transgressions, was he?. Tom DeLay was.
Jefferson having "some weird convoluted ties to a Nigerian official involving wire fraud and some sort of a telecommunications company" is a far cry from what Duke Cunningham did, taking millions of dollars in bribes from MZM, a business that was given extensive military contracts that could have compromised national security. The travails of the GOP are a stroy for a reason. In fact, I don't think that the MSM has covered the corruption of the GOP enough.
www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
Posted by:
LCL at April 9, 2006 08:05 PM
Interesting that as I read the top three references to the William Jefferson (D-La) scandal, I found this article/blog by none other than our own Matt Margolis, founder and editor of this very blogsite!!!
http://www.noagenda.org/2006/03/more_jefferson_aides_subpoenae.php
So why didn't Mark use this as an example of "Media Bias, Part XLII?
If haven't read any of the previous blogs in the "Media Bias? What media bias?" series, so it may have appeared in previous iterations of this subject...
Nice going, Matt!!
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 08:13 PM
lcl,
So now parsing levels of illegality is on the board for the liberals?
It shouldn't matter whether Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga) misused $1000 of funds illegally, whether William Jefferson (D-La) extorted, bribed, or otherwise came illegally into an unspecified amout of money or whether Duke Cunningham ripped off the taxpayers for millions of dollars. Ask any policeman. A crime is a crime is a crime.
It seems to me that you're implying that these "small fish" should not be reported on or their alleged crimes discussed in the media in the same way as Duke Cunningham or Tom DeLay because, after all, they're not "the 3rd most powerful person in Congress." That's a crock, and you know it!
They are ALL Congressional Repesentatives, and their alleged transgressions should be reported on. Don't give me the apologist mantra that they should somehow or another not have the glare of the antique media pointed in their direction!
Oh, but you're quick to say you think the media ought to be reporting MORE on the alleged corruption on the part of the GOP... that's pretty lame. It shows how you've either been successfully brainwashed by the antique media, or that you're overtly partisan - willing to give a "pass" to those alleged "crimes" that are pointing at Demublicans (because they're such "small fish" compared to Tom DeLay), but want to completely (pardon my pun here) "Let the hammer down" on Tom Delay and any or all Republicrats...
Give me a break...
Tell it to the judge!
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 10:23 PM
LCL,
By The Way, William Jefferson (D-La)) is a senior member of the Ways & Means and Budget Commitees, two of the most influential in Congress...
But I guess that's not high enough in a position of authority for you. Plus, he's a Demublican, so just tell that editor to drop the story, because it doesn't point to Tom DeLay or any Republicrat...
Excuse me, but is that your hypocrisy showing?
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 10:28 PM
LCL,
And also, unlike Tom DeLay who was obligated to step down just because he was indicted, William Jefferson (D-La)) has refused to consider such a possibility, even though he's facing federal indictments...
Even though the FBI confiscated a trunkload of money in his freezer in New Orleans, that shouldn't count for anything, right?
After all - "Innocent Until Proven Guilty." That is, unless you're a Republicrat - then it's time for the media to tear them to shreds in the court of public opinion...
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 10:32 PM
To make the assumption that this was a Republican, goes to the fact that we have become saturated by the pervasive abuses of this administration.
CO, are you completely out of your mind, or is the horse that strong in Canada? The "pervasive abuses" of this administration are no more pervasive than that of the previous administration. Do some research, and take off the blinders. Or were you warning all those guys over at kos, during the Clinton years, of the wrong way our nation was headed back then?
Face it, son--you're preachin' to the choir. We're mature adults here, old enough to remember past yesterday. You, on the other hand, have no grasp of history. Why don't you go jump in Lake Champlain...
Posted by: keefer at April 9, 2006 10:46 PM
The party id of the person needs to be identified in the body of the story. Gee, now there are at least 3 Demorat Reps in trouble...at least potentially.
Posted by: Tina at April 9, 2006 10:48 PM
And finally, I wouldn't mind seeing Tom DeLay and Bob Ney in Gitmo actually.
And, in closing, I wouldn't mind seeing LCL in one of those al-Zarqawi videos...
Posted by: keefer at April 9, 2006 10:51 PM
Keefer,
Why do you want to pollute the water of Lake Champlain?
Otherwise, right on point!!
LOL!!
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 10:52 PM
Keefer!
OUCH!!
Now don't hold back on how you REALLY feel...
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 9, 2006 10:53 PM
If rescued from Lake Champlain the Canadian socialistic medical society would be required to give mouth to mouth resusitation. ''pervasive abuses of this administration'' are words that came thru those liberal lips...should only be a 20 day wait for rescue in that case. If we close the borders off, we should build a wall with Canada too....let them boo our National Anthem then...bet old Canadian Observer doesn't remember when their dollar was the equal to ours.
Now the relationship between the currencies is approximately equal to the righteousness of our opinions. Is there a regiment of gay mounties yet, or is that redundant?
Posted by: dickdee at April 10, 2006 12:33 AM
"If rescued from Lake Champlain the Canadian socialistic medical society would be required to give mouth to mouth resusitation"
Which is fortunate for him, because his insurance card for American treatment would have been soaked beyond recognition. Therefore he would not receive medical attention. No insurance! No treatment.
Posted by: Ash at April 10, 2006 03:50 PM
Come on folks;
It is not only Canada who finds your current administration repulsive. Ask around, and you'll find out what the rest of the world thinks of Bush and his buddies. Are you going to build a wall around your entire country? Don't you find you are isolated enough as it is?
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 10, 2006 04:58 PM
Ash,
You know that is nonsense - you show up at an American hospital, you get the best care possible, regardless of ability to pay.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 11, 2006 01:29 AM
Cool. I'll drop my insurance. The payments are outrageous any way. Let you 'pubs that worship the almighty (dollar) pay for me.
Many tanx
Sure they might not turn you away in an emergency, but will turn you away at a doctors office if you don't have insurance. Which is a good reason for universal health care. Preventative medicine is much cheaper than emergency care.
Posted by: Ash at April 12, 2006 04:08 PM
Probably written by an AP reporter no doubt? This is becoming the new big scandal.
Mark
Dishonesty comes in all shapes & sizes and in all political parties. To make the assumption that this was a Republican, goes to the fact that we have become saturated by the pervasive abuses of this administration.
I would expect you will hear nothing from the 'bat brigade that haunts (pollutes?) these parts on this obvious bias by an overtly left paper.
Washington Post Editorial supports Bush in the non-story leak issue. They even state that it is Wilson who is the liar.
Funny, I seem to recall that the Rep. was identified as a Democrat in the cutline that accompanied the story. Maybe you just have to be a more careful reader.
Funny, the cutline that accompanied the article identified the rep. as a, "the senior Democrat on the House ethics committee." Somehow you folks apparently missed that -- you need to pay more attention to your reading and a little less time barking at the moon.
Personally I hope they put the bum in jail, you steal from us - go to jail and not the soft as a twinkie Club Fed for members of congress. Leavinworth, KS.
Continuing on with the media basis I came acroos this quote from Sen. Burns.
*The congressman has vowed to stay in the race, "even if I'm indicted."*
Could we be seeing the republican war cry of '06?
-Joe
According to the AP Stylebook, you should let relevance be the guide here. I guess this tells you all you need to know about the AP.
However it does go on to explain, "Party affiliation is pointless in some stories, such as an account of a governor accepting a button from a poster child. It will occur naturally in many political stories. For stories between these extremes, include party affiliation if readers need it for understanding or are likely to be curious about what it is."
I would say, in this day and age of the culture of corruption, it is definitely NEEDED in the first reference of the actual story. Just to clarify, if for no other reason.
Salvelinus is right, the headline under the photo for the story clearly states that Mollohan is a Democrat.
But I guess that's not what you guys WANT to see, so you ignore it. Just like your idol the beloved Pres. Cheney... er Bush.
There is no liberal bias at NYT just because they don't mention that Mollohan is a Dem, for the SECOND time, for 315 words. Also, the Dems aren't mired in a huge and disgusting ethics crisis like the Republicans, with dozens of leading conservative GOPers (including one trying to become my Senator, Katherine "Mitchell Wade" Harris) on the verge of jail time, so of course that's not going to be the first thing they mention.
It's pretty sick that conservatives are counting words in a newspaper article just to prove that ther's a liberal media bias. You must have quite a bit of time on your hands.
This guy is a greedy jerk, but he's no different from the myriad Republicans that have done things that are a heck of a lot worse than Mollohan.
And finally, I wouldn't mind seeing Tom DeLay and Bob Ney in Gitmo actually.
www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
www.sunstateactivist.org
In the interest of intellectual integrity, I have to admit that the party affiliation was mentioned in the photo byline. And the UPI ran the story with his party affiliation in the first sentence. This was not the best example that might have been used after all.
A better example might perhaps be the overall coverage of William jefferson (D-La). He's currently under federal indictment after months of investigation by the FBI for some weird convoluted ties to a Nigerian official involving wire fraud and some sort of a telecommunications company. While the Dems are screaming and pounding their fists on the table about the Republicrats' "culture of corruption," and the antique media is trumpeting their message far and wide, very, very little is printed or reported about William Jefferson (D-La). When I just did a Google search for "William+Jefferson+scandal," I came up with about 2.5 million hits. Of the top 10, only three were about William Jefferson (D-La). Who do you suppose the others were all about? Hmmmm?
In any event, you don't see the antique media making a huge deal of the bribery and mail fraud charges for this Louisiana Democrat, do you? It's nowhere near the outcry like Duke Cunningham, Tom DeLay or any of their associates allegedly involved in the "Abramoff affair."
And what about everyone's favorite crazy black woman Congressman, Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga). Once she stopped making her daily vitriolic press conferences and "apologized" on the floor of Congress, it seems like, as far as the antique media is concerned, "all is forgiven." Forget the fact that she allegedly broke House rules in spending $1000 to fly Isaac Hayes to Atlanta to help open a district office and claimed that it was spent for "office supplies." Once there, he allegedly attended a fundraiser that night, and raised an unspecified amount of money for the Congressman, against Federal Election Commission statutes. So far, hardly a peep out of the mouths of the antique media. Had it been a white male Republicrat, you can bet that he'd have been tried, convicted and executed in the press by now..;.
dbogdan
I don't believe that Rep. William Jefferson was the third most powerful person the the U.S. government at the time of his alleged transgressions, was he?. Tom DeLay was.
Jefferson having "some weird convoluted ties to a Nigerian official involving wire fraud and some sort of a telecommunications company" is a far cry from what Duke Cunningham did, taking millions of dollars in bribes from MZM, a business that was given extensive military contracts that could have compromised national security. The travails of the GOP are a stroy for a reason. In fact, I don't think that the MSM has covered the corruption of the GOP enough.
www.lcoliberal.blogspot.com
Interesting that as I read the top three references to the William Jefferson (D-La) scandal, I found this article/blog by none other than our own Matt Margolis, founder and editor of this very blogsite!!!
http://www.noagenda.org/2006/03/more_jefferson_aides_subpoenae.php
So why didn't Mark use this as an example of "Media Bias, Part XLII?
If haven't read any of the previous blogs in the "Media Bias? What media bias?" series, so it may have appeared in previous iterations of this subject...
Nice going, Matt!!
lcl,
So now parsing levels of illegality is on the board for the liberals?
It shouldn't matter whether Cynthia McKinney (D-Ga) misused $1000 of funds illegally, whether William Jefferson (D-La) extorted, bribed, or otherwise came illegally into an unspecified amout of money or whether Duke Cunningham ripped off the taxpayers for millions of dollars. Ask any policeman. A crime is a crime is a crime.
It seems to me that you're implying that these "small fish" should not be reported on or their alleged crimes discussed in the media in the same way as Duke Cunningham or Tom DeLay because, after all, they're not "the 3rd most powerful person in Congress." That's a crock, and you know it!
They are ALL Congressional Repesentatives, and their alleged transgressions should be reported on. Don't give me the apologist mantra that they should somehow or another not have the glare of the antique media pointed in their direction!
Oh, but you're quick to say you think the media ought to be reporting MORE on the alleged corruption on the part of the GOP... that's pretty lame. It shows how you've either been successfully brainwashed by the antique media, or that you're overtly partisan - willing to give a "pass" to those alleged "crimes" that are pointing at Demublicans (because they're such "small fish" compared to Tom DeLay), but want to completely (pardon my pun here) "Let the hammer down" on Tom Delay and any or all Republicrats...
Give me a break...
Tell it to the judge!
LCL,
By The Way, William Jefferson (D-La)) is a senior member of the Ways & Means and Budget Commitees, two of the most influential in Congress...
But I guess that's not high enough in a position of authority for you. Plus, he's a Demublican, so just tell that editor to drop the story, because it doesn't point to Tom DeLay or any Republicrat...
Excuse me, but is that your hypocrisy showing?
LCL,
And also, unlike Tom DeLay who was obligated to step down just because he was indicted, William Jefferson (D-La)) has refused to consider such a possibility, even though he's facing federal indictments...
Even though the FBI confiscated a trunkload of money in his freezer in New Orleans, that shouldn't count for anything, right?
After all - "Innocent Until Proven Guilty." That is, unless you're a Republicrat - then it's time for the media to tear them to shreds in the court of public opinion...
To make the assumption that this was a Republican, goes to the fact that we have become saturated by the pervasive abuses of this administration.
CO, are you completely out of your mind, or is the horse that strong in Canada? The "pervasive abuses" of this administration are no more pervasive than that of the previous administration. Do some research, and take off the blinders. Or were you warning all those guys over at kos, during the Clinton years, of the wrong way our nation was headed back then?
Face it, son--you're preachin' to the choir. We're mature adults here, old enough to remember past yesterday. You, on the other hand, have no grasp of history. Why don't you go jump in Lake Champlain...
The party id of the person needs to be identified in the body of the story. Gee, now there are at least 3 Demorat Reps in trouble...at least potentially.
And finally, I wouldn't mind seeing Tom DeLay and Bob Ney in Gitmo actually.
And, in closing, I wouldn't mind seeing LCL in one of those al-Zarqawi videos...
Keefer,
Why do you want to pollute the water of Lake Champlain?
Otherwise, right on point!!
LOL!!
Keefer!
OUCH!!
Now don't hold back on how you REALLY feel...
If rescued from Lake Champlain the Canadian socialistic medical society would be required to give mouth to mouth resusitation. ''pervasive abuses of this administration'' are words that came thru those liberal lips...should only be a 20 day wait for rescue in that case. If we close the borders off, we should build a wall with Canada too....let them boo our National Anthem then...bet old Canadian Observer doesn't remember when their dollar was the equal to ours.
Now the relationship between the currencies is approximately equal to the righteousness of our opinions. Is there a regiment of gay mounties yet, or is that redundant?
"If rescued from Lake Champlain the Canadian socialistic medical society would be required to give mouth to mouth resusitation"
Which is fortunate for him, because his insurance card for American treatment would have been soaked beyond recognition. Therefore he would not receive medical attention. No insurance! No treatment.
Come on folks;
It is not only Canada who finds your current administration repulsive. Ask around, and you'll find out what the rest of the world thinks of Bush and his buddies. Are you going to build a wall around your entire country? Don't you find you are isolated enough as it is?
Ash,
You know that is nonsense - you show up at an American hospital, you get the best care possible, regardless of ability to pay.
Cool. I'll drop my insurance. The payments are outrageous any way. Let you 'pubs that worship the almighty (dollar) pay for me.
Many tanx
Sure they might not turn you away in an emergency, but will turn you away at a doctors office if you don't have insurance. Which is a good reason for universal health care. Preventative medicine is much cheaper than emergency care.