I was at the race. Flew in from Los Angeles with my wife because of a connection to the sponsors.

The NASCAR fans were outstanding. Black, white, Asian, you name it.

This is classic left wing news thinking where they were trying to manufacture news. They thought those "evil" conservatives and Southerners would take a swipe at a muslim and they would then plaster it all over the news and say "see, look at these evil racists".

It's an insult.

The great irony in this is that it backfired and probably now shows the absolute reverse.

The great hypocrisy is that I encounter more racism here in left wing Los Angeles from liberals than anything at a NASCAR event.

The media doesn't get it, never have. At least they didn't attach explosives to these "muslims" like they did the GM truck gas tanks back in the 1990's when they tried to manufacture that news too.

Begs the question how many other things the news makes up and have yet to be caught on.

Disgusting!

Way to go liberals. Way to go news media!!

"This is outrageous for a news organization with the reputation of NBC to stoop to the level of attempting to create news instead of reporting it. Any legitimate journalist should be ashamed."

It's called investigative journalism.

This is basically the same idea that was behind "Black Like Me."

But other pieces of investigative journalism have uncovered the Watergate scandal and public exposure to Thalidomide.

Nelly Bly was one of the first to employ this practice when she feigned insanity to uncover abuses at a mental health hospital in the 1880s.

It most definitely is journalism.

"Investigative Journalism"?

Please. It's called trying to CREATE NEWS. They were trying to provocate an action.

Please, tell me why the liberal media doesn't send Muslim looking people into San Francisco or Boston for crying out loud?

Investigative journalims my tucas! It was an attempted smear to find one drunk yahoo to do something stupid and then plaster it all over the news and say "see".

It's a crock. Glad it blew up in their faces.

I'm just surprised they didn't put out a memo on this from the 1960's era typewriter...err word processor.

Oh wait, that's cB.S. I get them so confused.

"Investigative Journalism"?

Yep.

Tom

If you were from the south and were a NASCAR fan, would you feel more than a bit ticked off at NBC today?

Just curious

I don't know. Maybe. I don't deny you the right to be pissed. They were playing off a stereotype. I was just commenting on the quote that said journalism should only cover the news. Investigative journalism is an important method that has yielded many good results.

Doesn't mean it can't misfire on occassion, as it seemingly has here.

Tom - I'm a trained journalist and I can tell you straight up that this is NOT "investigative journalism." This is a STUNT, nothing more, designed to produce a pre-arranged result. NBC should be ashamed of itself. And so should you, for trying to compare it to what Bly did a long time ago.

Seriously, what is it with you guys and MSN? Tom, don't piss of the Chimpy fans, they think that investigative journalism is bad and screaming at some guest that has a different than their's is considered "fair and balanced" journalism.

Tom, I followed the link and guess who the author of this was? None other than Michelle Malkin.

'nuff said.

Investigative journalism? Just what was being investigated? I remember NBC doing "investigative journalism" on pickup trucks a few years back--NBC claimed that side-impact collisions could cause the pickup's gas tanks to rupture. Guess what? It was a made-up story, and NBC got caught. Tommie, once again, you're full of excrement. And you'd better never forget 9/11, moron.

Hey, teenage littlegirl, not only are you a total moron, your writing is bloody appalling. Are you the only teenager in the third grade?

Michelle Malkin is a fine, upstanding journalist.

'Nuff said.

DeeCee,

Even if Malkin were bad - and she's not; I've actually met the fine lady - the plain fact of the matter is that NBC did try to manufacture news...

Tom,

Investigative journalism is where you get someone going to the news and saying, "hey, I'm a Moslem fan of NASCAR and when I went to the race, I had racial epithets hurled at me, and the security guards hassled me on account of my ethnicity"...and then you go and investigate to see if it is true.

What NBC did was start with the assumption that NASCAR fans are by and large racists, and then send someone in they were sure would provoke a racist response...

NBC should have its broadcast license pulled...

I suppose the insult to it isn't exactly what they did, but the preconceptions that they believed and tried to report as fact. Why NASCAR? Why the south?

I don't want a news program to be just another aristocratic yuppy mocking the intelligence and ethical behavior of the south. The program is pretty much just HugeWangUSAF and his delusional ilk trying to tell you not to trust the south.

"Investigative journalism is where you get someone going to the news and saying, "hey, I'm a Moslem fan of NASCAR and when I went to the race, I had racial epithets hurled at me, and the security guards hassled me on account of my ethnicity"...and then you go and investigate to see if it is true."

And one of those investigative methods is what NBC did. We don't know what prompted them to decide to do this investigation. Perhaps there was a muslim fan who reported racial slurs at events. If the reasoning behind the undercover investigation was purely stereotypical, then that is pretty suspect.

But the tactic they used is investigative journalism.

"NBC should have its broadcast license pulled..."

Yeah, that's it...

After following the links from Malkan's page, it looks like NBC is doing a piece on Muslim discrimination in the US. They have sent Muslims to different venues: the NASCAR race, a football game in Arizona, and 2 or 3 other places.

So this isn't just "let's try and expose redneck NASCAR fans as racists."

If there were no problems with NASCAR fans, I'm sure NBC will report that. If there were a few minor, subtle reactions, I'm sure they will report that. If he was kicked out of the venue because he is Muslim, I'm sure they will report that.

Hey Omega,

How could you make such broadsweeping generalizations about the open-minded, well-educated, enlightened folks in the media? Why, they are even friends with University faculty members who smoke pipes and have tweed jackets with elbow patches! Many of these folks actually carry around copies of "Leaves of Grass." So, when they tell you through their words and actions that everyone who lives below the Mason Dixon line is a slack-jawed local who has relations with second cousins and likes nothing better than a good lynching, you should have the good sense to know that you just are not as smart as them. You shouldn't question their wisdom ... you should just be happy they are around to tell you what to think and for whom you should vote.

Hey Omega - Careful what you say about aristocratic northerners. This blog is devoted to the admiration of the most famous son of aristocratic northerners there is - George Bush. And you can bet they didn't let any NASCAR fans into his fraternities or supper clubs when he was at Phillips Andover, Yale or Harvard. He's a whole lot closer to Ted Kennedy than Dick Trickle for sure.

And I didn't hear any outrage from you guys when NBC posed as underage kids to trap online sexual predators.

extramedium,

Very well, I'll retract my statement. It should read "liberal aristocratic yuppies" instead of just "aristocratic yuppies." My previous statement was an insult to respectable aristocrats, but it isn't anymore.

DFLAN,

Hehe, funny. You know, I bet that people here have a completely inaccurate view of who I really am, where I'm from, etcetera.

Tom,

Arizona and Virginia are in the south. As for those other couple of places they said they're going, I'd hope that at least one of them is somewhere above the Ohio River and East of the Mississippi River.

Hey, teenage littlegirl, not only you are a moron, but your writing is bloody appalling.

Posted by: keefer at April 7, 2006 04:38 PM

Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself;
Before you accuse me, take a look at yourself.
You say i'm spendin' my money on other women;
You takin' money from someone else.
-from Eric Clapton's song, "Before you accuse me"

Hey Extramedium ... is that why the libs hate him so much? Because he went off the reservation? I never thought of that. All the pointy-headed, ivory tower, blazer-with-a-crest-wearin, Northeast, old-money, Mayflower-ancestor-havin, long-haired-Yankee-Hippie-sass bra-burners showed W the secret handshake ... then he comitted the greatest sin: He left the club!

This is par for the course. The MS is in the businees of brainwashing the weak minded, that is why we have 'liberals'. If all news was reported without a slant the 'liberal' would go the way of the Doo Doo bird, which is to say, away.

NBC/MSNBC/local affiliates for all three, hate President Bush. My local NBC affliliate puts on a nightly show against the administraion, brainwashing the cud chewing populace. I quit watching. And any network that trots out that fool Keith Olbermann is agregiously anti 'right'.

Hey Teen Lib:

You clearly are a young pup. I'm sure you would be appalled to learn that even though you are clearly the most nuanced and enlightened poster on this string, you just beacome the man keeping another brother down.

"Before You Accuse Me" was written and first performed in the late 50s by Bo Didley. Try not to attribute great American-African art to White English Knock-off artists.

Nah - they just hate him because he can't say nuclear.

You know what they say about generalizations - they tend to be true.

So all those tabacky-spittin', cousin-lovin', redneck folks in the south & in the midwest - they probably can't stand Arabs. Heck, what's that fools name on here who posts - one of Queefer's buddies - can't think of the name - but he said the religion of Islam should be *destroyed*! The entire religion! Wow.

And then Queefer & Bearman went & backed him up. Disgusting.

mf,

That's what who says?

Did you and your fellow Nazis make that up? Just sitting around wondering whom to hate this week, Southerners, Americans, mid-westerners?

maf53,

I thought it was the liberals who were the ones discriminating against everything Islam. After all, aren't they the ones condemning the Iraqi government because of its beliefs, labelling it as extremist and whatnot before any significant actions are taken?

And I don't believe that saying about generalizations. That implies that right now I could generalize democrats and call em all tentacle-limbed freaks, and it would most likely be true.

And I didn't hear any outrage from you guys when NBC posed as underage kids to trap online sexual predators.

Those creeps! They could've caught you, Tom.

Just kidding, Tom. There's a big difference in going after sick criminals and trying to expose a few racist rednecks, now ain't there?

And I didn't hear any outrage from you guys when NBC posed as underage kids to trap online sexual predators.

Sexual Predation is illegal, intolerance isn't ... yet!

And any network that trots out that fool Keith Olbermann is aregiously anti 'right'.

Posted by: Rex Zetgist at April 7, 2006 05:43 PM

1. Keith Olbermann has more integrity that the frauds, religious bottom feeders, racists, fearmongers, crooks, traitors, and the rest of the well-known freaks at Faux News Channel combined.

2. Now the news networks have to carry a pro-right agenda or it wont fit your Fuhrer's image as he sees fit? Terrific.

Golly-Gee Teenager,
'Cuz you say it, it must be true! Thanks for setting all of us straight!
Olbermann has integrity. It’s settled!

I just watched "Good Night and Good Luck" Good golly. Substitute terrorist for Communist. Tom Delay for Joe McCarthy and keep the bit about being a traitor if you disagree with the administration and.........kinda eerie isn't it?

What we need today is another Edward R Murrow.

And fewer Rush Limbaughs.

Ash,

Yeah, just what we need - yet another self-important and self-absorbed MSMer like Murrow...

teenage liberal,

You might want to try thinking for yourself rather than just parroting lefting talking points...if you want to be an interesting lefty, then read Ash's and Shipley's posts...right now, all you're really doing is boring us.

Yeah, just what we need - yet another self-important and self-absorbed MSMer like Murrow..

So that puts you in the corner with Joe McCarthy?
Figures.