That would depend where you are standing. I'm sure you could walk around Wayland or Weston all day with a Bush t-shirt on and get nothing but thumbs up. Just like you could in Walnut Creek or Burlingame, CA - not 20 miles from San Francisco. ;-)
But seriously, I have to respect a man with convictions, even if they differ from mine.
Posted by: extramedium at April 6, 2006 05:16 PM
I support Bush, Cause he is the manifestation of the South Rising again. CSA Fo-EVa!
My granpappy told me to save them Confederate dollars, and now that we gots us a president so divisive and such, there's not much doubt we'll be plum rich, with what we got stuffin our mattresses. The South has Rised up again!
On a side note, I don't think Bush is so bad. He's worked hard to put us all in the situation we're in. SO with that he's darn 'ffective at putin as in the ituation we're in, who cares what the Harry Taylor says anyway.
So be it that Iraq is a, now what'd that veteran descrive it to me 'gan, oh yeah a Quagmire. I read on Fox news that that just might be a good thing, but that the media has also mad eit up, if it is real, but it'd be good if it were. My head hurst I better take a pull off the whiskey.
Then them Tax cuts. I keep hearing from Matt 'bout how good they be for the economy and all. But Maybe he's reffering to fuel economy or something, cause I aint livin no better, then when Slick Willy was bangin interns. But I guess maybe if I owned a SUV or somethin I'd notice the diffrence. You think?
Posted by:
HugeWangUSAF at April 6, 2006 05:21 PM
Matt
Do you also stand behind Bush when he lies, lies, lies? He has been caught so many times if it wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable.
He is not the good person you think he is. America can do much better and hopefully it will.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 6, 2006 05:26 PM
That fails to mention that he put in place two S.C. justices who understand their role as something other than writing law. Perhaps barely (with Miers in mind), but he did it.
Posted by:
Judd at April 6, 2006 05:32 PM
Matt, that wouldn't have been Canadian Observer who sent you that e-mail, would it? Sounds like something he'd say; it's his mantra...
Posted by: keefer at April 6, 2006 05:53 PM
Matt,
And lets not forget that the Oval Office is now, once again, a place of honor and decency...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:24 PM
Seriously Mark et all:
Why do you contine to support Chimpy McFlightsuit after he and his band of shady neo-con circus freaks have done damn near everything to drag our good name though the mud for the radical Republicans and corporate intrests? It's self-destructive? Hell, i'm 15 and I know better that to trust this jackass!
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 6, 2006 06:25 PM
A place of honor and decency? Ignorance is total Bliss for you jerk-offs. When Bush leaves, if he escapes impeachment, this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 6, 2006 06:27 PM
Teenaged Liberal,
Your assignment for the weekend is to read "The Conservative Mind" by Russell Kirk.
That'll fix what ailes you....even if your parents and teachers are the most mind-numbed liberals the world has ever seen, a bit of Kirk will free your mind...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:29 PM
IIS,
Not at all - there's Jeb Bush, and then his son, George...an endless supply of Bush's to keep you up at night worrying...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:30 PM
Canadian,
Well, there's the disconnect - we don't see a single lie; heck, not even the normal run of a politician shading the truth and spinning things to his advantage. President Bush is a straightforward....probably the most honest man we've had in office in more than a century.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:32 PM
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIES?
"If a President of the United States ever lied to the American people, he should resign."
- Bill Clinton July, 1974
"I want to say one thing to the American people. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie. Not a single time. Never. These allegations are false and I need to go back to work for the American people."
- Bill Clinton
Posted by:
BushRocks at April 6, 2006 06:48 PM
Some jerk said:"this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!"
Hey, who's keeping you here? Move along little boy. This is the adult swim.
The same was said about Limbaugh and he is as popular as ever.
Posted by: Porter Jervis at April 6, 2006 06:52 PM
Your correspendent is a condescending phony, Matt. Or a "seminar-emailer." Kind of like, "Hey, great blog, and I think you're smart and bright, but...."
Just goes to show how yawning the partisan divide in our country is, anymore. Each side has its own "truth" and "reality" because the Left cannot deal with the genuine article. They become hopelessly inured to their own self-delusions and eventually can't remember the difference - and then express astonishment at somebody that can.
Remember the "emperor who had no clothes"? The Democrat Party is an entire nudist colony, pointing the finger at us for "indecent exposure."
And you know which finger I'm talking about.
Incidentally, to any of the dissident commenters above who find my words sufficiently provocative, I'm neither young nor old; but when I was young, people like you said the same things to me about my avid support for Ronald Reagan. Which illustrates that some things really do never change.
Posted by:
Hard Starboard at April 6, 2006 06:56 PM
Mark,
Thanks for the advice, but after seeing these Republican crooks, demagouges and frauds in action over the past two years, it's impossible for me to EVER trust, let alone vote for any of these people. My only wish is that some of these Democrats would acually grow a pair and not be bullied by these a-holes in office!
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 6, 2006 07:04 PM
Mark,
Thanks for the advice, but after seeing and reading about these crooks, liars, religious bottom feeders, and so-forth, it's impossible for me to even trust, let alone vote for any of these guys. My only wish is for some leader to unite the people and help us find some common f&*ing ground!
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 6, 2006 07:14 PM
Beautifully and articulately spoken.
Posted by:
shoelimpyâ„¢ at April 6, 2006 07:21 PM
The Bush lied song and dance is old. Come up with something better.
Posted by: Tina at April 6, 2006 07:25 PM
Teenager,
If you're young and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you're old and not a conservative, you have no brain.
Wasn't that Winston Churchill, somebody help me here.
Posted by: Bane of Liberals' Existence at April 6, 2006 07:26 PM
Damn, I didn't read through your post Mark! Look here, (sweet, wonderful guy): i'm gonna make this clear to you-don't you dare call my parents dumb. At least they've taught me right from wrong..........and its damn clear that Chimpy has done wrong and needs to be held accountable for his actions, i.e.:
-declaring war on a nation that had no ties to Al-Qaeda or 9.11
-wiretapping Americans without a warrant
-authorizing the leaking a CIA operative for political revenge
-killing 2,000 + American troops and killing 100,000 Iraqi citizens for big oil
-torture
And the Chimp claims he's a born-again Christian? He's a fraud along with Robertson, Falwell, DeLay, Santourm, Hannity, Coulter and any other right-wing lunatic who confuses their spooky hate speech/policies with the word of Christ.
I take what I said at 7:14 PM back. You can take your book and (please take care of) it, pal.
(Edited for obscenity)
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 6, 2006 07:29 PM
**sigh**
Teenage angst and confusion ~ I weep for our future.
Posted by: Bane of Liberals' Existence at April 6, 2006 07:41 PM
**sigh**
At least he dealing with it well, huh?
Posted by: Bane of Liberals' Existence at April 6, 2006 07:42 PM
"Probably the most honest man we've had in office in more than a century." -Noonan
Let's talk about Dubya's connection to the Plame link, shall we?
I can't wait to see the parrots defend their fearless leader on this one. Mark, you first.
Posted by: maf53 at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
Wow everyone will Lie, hell I see no one making a big deal about Clinton expressing on T.V about Monica and to me that was a big deal.Being military I have funded and supported my Commander in Chief from day one. People in the states have become so oblivious to what the hell happened on 9/11. I work here in Gitmo Bay, Cuba doing detention ops for these jihad members. Some people will never understand what needed to be done, why don't you thank Clinton for allowing several terrorist attacks go unanswered. Which brought on the events taking place. Man you people are blind. GO BUSH!
Posted by: jason at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
Hell, i'm 15...
...and you write at a third-grade level. Your parents, and your little brother, Baloney2000, must be proud...
Posted by: keefer at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
Wow. This liberal teenager just needs to grow up and realize that he's living a lie. He's blinded by a bunch of bullshit. He's a liberal. Who in the hell wants the government to take more of their money? A liberal. Who wants more government control and free handouts? A liberal. You know, if you look at the Democratic Party's platform, it looks eerily similar to the communist manifesto. Liberals are turning this Constitutional Republic into socialism.
Posted by:
Republican Aficionado at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
That should read "leak," not "link."
Posted by: maf53 at April 6, 2006 07:49 PM
Wow. This liberal teenager just needs to grow up and realize that he's living a lie. He's blinded by a bunch of bullshit. He's a liberal. Who in the hell wants the government to take more of their money? A liberal. Who wants more government control and free handouts? A liberal. You know, if you look at the Democratic Party's platform, it looks eerily similar to the communist manifesto. Liberals are turning this Constitutional Republic into socialism.
Posted by:
Republican Aficionado at April 6, 2006 07:51 PM
Chimpy McFlightsuit? hahaha, is this guy serious, or just that stupid?
Posted by:
Republican Aficionado at April 6, 2006 07:52 PM
When Bush leaves, if he escapes impeachment, this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!
Almost three years left, Wanker. We're counting the days too--we'll see you in Blogs for Romney, Blogs for Allen, or Blogs for (insert GOP contender here)...
Posted by: keefer at April 6, 2006 07:53 PM
Matt, great post. Talking about the accomplishments of President Bush, you could go on and on. Starting with his inspired and brilliant leadership after 9/11, which helped bring this country together and go forward to fight World War 3, with a steel resolve. How about small stuff, like the lowest crime rate in 30 years. How about getting this country out of the stock market bubble recession that his predessesor handed him, into a growing, strong economy. How about corporate reform and going after corporate criminals, you know, all that corporate corruption which occurred on his predessesors watch, like Enron and Worldcom. How about finally passing a prescription drug program, so all our parents can get cheaper drugs, so they don't have to decide between eating and getting their heart medication. How about reforming the US Supreme Court, to prevent the liberals on the court from pulling more boners, like taking away everybodys property rights. How about bringing character, integrity and honesty back into the White House. How about savings thousands of lives in New Orleans by begging the governor and mayor to issue an evacuation order, which they would not have otherwise and in bringing in the federal troops to save the day when the governor and mayor had so failed their people and abrigated their responsibility. President Bush is a man of action, who means what he says and is solely motivated to tackle tough problems and try and solve them for the good of the country. President Bush has brought honor to the office, all the while keeping his chin up, while having to deal with the worst slander and lies by the other party and its one party media, since President Abraham Lincoln. And also he has freed 50 million people, captured the worst mass murderer in the past 50 years and has brought the hope of freedom where it never existed. I am excited by what he has achieved and what he has yet to achieve in his remaining years. President George W. Bush, the greatest president in american history.
Posted by: james allegro at April 6, 2006 08:12 PM
Posted by: keefer at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
"He who lives in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones."
Have a nice day.
Oh and for anyone who was wondering, Chimpy McFlightsuit is the nickname for President Bush.
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 6, 2006 08:29 PM
Keefer
As I've said before, even if you claim to be a mature adult, your comments seem very child-like.
Teenage liberal shows more maturity in his posts than you do in yours.
Why is that?
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 6, 2006 08:55 PM
Oh Canada
Please list the lies, lies, lies, lies
Thank you.
Posted by: Warriornation at April 6, 2006 09:00 PM
What does that make John Kerry?
Frankenstein McFlipflop?
Posted by:
Republican Aficionado at April 6, 2006 09:03 PM
Aficionado, that was FUNNY! I'm partial to Ted Chappaquddick Creature Kennedy...
Posted by: Ellsworth at April 6, 2006 09:21 PM
Warriornation
Would an honest leader have brought all this anguish, grief and pain upon his people? The lies are there for you to see, if you choose to, but no one can force you to open your eyes. That is something you will have to do for yourself.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 6, 2006 10:16 PM
Men,
Let's all take a deep breath regarding the Teenage Liberal. keefer my good hetero friend you know I won't be askin you twice to holster your pistol when thinking about the boy. I know you get excited by such talk.
Let me take him under my wing and give him a talk about true conservative values and such. As he obviously has been misled.
Here teenage Liberal take a Pabst, yeah pull the tab off just like so there you go. Drink it slow. Goes down smooth, no? You see being conservtive is more about being legally too drunk to drive, yet being just sober enough to stagger into the voting booth, then any sort of political rational.
Whenever those creeping feelings of morality amd ethics creep in your head, take a slug of booze, and you'll be right back in line. You'll need increasing amounts over time due to what we call "Tolerance", so when them liberal bleading hearts try to drag you off to an AA meeting you just remind them that you're doing your best to support Bush by maintaning a constant buzz, unlike them, the treasonous sober people.
Probably the greatest asset of any conservetive is the ignoring of the book of Mathew. You know..The book where Jesus himself advises us all to be weary of those who practive their religion in front of others.
This whole show moraility thing can be of use to you. Heck it worked well for our leader Tom Delay. Why those indictemenst and charges were all the work of people jealous of his devotion to our Lord and Savior Jesus of Nazaerth. It seemed to be workin well and all for him, up 'till yesterday when he got shooed outta town.
So I tried it maself on the traffic cop after I blew through a stop sign. When he asked me to step outta ma car, why I refused to take that breath-a-lizer test on the grounds that I already had a GED and I was a born again Christian.
No test is needed to show that I wasn't drunk cept' ma cross, (which I hastily put together with popcycle sticks and scotch tape. Mind you write that tip down). So when he wadn't buyin it I was pert mad, though I wasn't sure which of my two fibs he don't believe.
SO I got down on my knees in the middle of the road and prayed for his soul and that teh Lord might help him find the wisdom to let me off the hook. Then I really started prayin hard like with my eyes squinted shut all hard like and focusin real hard, just to show him I meant business,which oddly gave him the perfect chace to strap them handcuffs on.
Make a long story short my young Liberal friend you need practice your religion in public places and to get our of trouble, but avoid putting your hands close enough together while show prayin to be cuffed in that pose.
Write that down and follow it truely and you will find yourself a true redstater like me.
Posted by:
HugeWangUSAF at April 6, 2006 10:55 PM
Posted by: jacob at April 6, 2006 11:27 PM
Interesting how difficult it is to differentiate between adolescent ranting and the normal addle-minded drivel promulgated by the typical stale liberal.
Posted by:
Bob at April 6, 2006 11:43 PM
Liberals are such ignorant tools.
I am so happy that we have George W. Bush as our President. Finally we have some honor in the White House after 8 years of utter corruption, BS, and incompetence by the Clintons. I'm so glad that the white-trash Clintons are gone from the White House and we have some adults running the show now. George W. Bush demonstrates more honor, dignity, and honesty in one day than the Clintons have in the last 30 years of their lives.
Liberals lost an election in 2000 that they tried to steal and they lost an election again in 2004 that they built all of their hopes and dreams upon. That is why they are running around squealing like a bunch of angry stuck pigs, spouting off a never-ending supply of incomprehensible ignorance, foolishness, dishonesty and hatred.
Every time I read a post on this site by some of the liberal trolls that post here I see more of the same foolish, ignorant drivel. There is no talking sense to these libs. They have no sense.
Posted by: NDinformer at April 7, 2006 12:14 AM
HugewangUSAF is not a redstater. He's a liberal. You see, he has no idea what it's like to be a conservative. He's too ignorant.
Posted by:
Republican Aficionado at April 7, 2006 12:15 AM
"Teenage angst and confusion ~ I weep for our future."
And I rejoice for our future as I weep for our present. Teenager: Just read the posts critical of you and ask yourself: Do I want to grow up and be like these hateful people? Your on the right path, just stay the course.
Posted by: Ash at April 7, 2006 12:25 AM
Can we have a competition for who's the bigger Bushbot - James Allegro or ND Informer? Can you both take your heads out of Dubya's ass and do battle with each other for us all to see?
You guys are a sad lot. Blind support for an
incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt administration.
You sheep really, really need to get out of Kansas and see other parts of the country - other parts of the *world* - open up your eyes. And the truth shall set you free.
Posted by: maf53 at April 7, 2006 12:26 AM
Matt, keefer, CanadianO, Republican, maf, Bane, teenage, et al...
I found this topic and the treatement thereof to be highly insightful, in that it brought out the complex dynamics that surround our current President and Commander-in-Chief in a concise way that I've never before seen. It runs the full gamut of emotional, psychological, and political contradictions that surround this particular individual as President at this very critical point in our nation's history.
On the one hand, we've got a very convincing citation of accomplishments and strengths of President Bush. On the other, a series of criticisms and allegations are put forward that are equally passionate and convincing in their context. Somewhere between left and right, apart from the ad hominum comments about the President, and each other, stands George W. Bush. For all of our contemporary commentaries, a measure of his true significance has not even begun to develop. History will be his final judge, not the passionate, sometimes glib remarks that we proffer here to each other.
Love him or hate him, the man has faced some serious challenges in his position as President. Clearly, as Americans, it's too late for buyer's remorse. He has his "warts" politically speaking. I vehemently disagree with him on several issues, yet I understand that despite those differences, he occupies the office of President of the United States. I must respect that office, nothwithstanding the individual who occupies it. That's part of our assumedly shared history as a nation - that the institutions that we've been handed from generations past are the instruments through which we advance our social concerns and work toward common solutions. George W. Bush deserves respect and support from this nation, even with all his warts, because the office deserves respect and support. Hearing how people tear into him causes me great pain, because whether they know it or not, tearing down or disrespecting a President is also tearing down and disrespecting the Presidency.
Having said that, I will freely admit that I feel a growing sense of disappointment in President Bush's leadership at this point in time. Although my personal situation economically and such is markedly more secure now that it was in 2000, I see growing signs of serious trouble ahead for this nation. Part of this might be attributed to President Bush's domestic and foreign policies, but a good deal of it also rests firmly in the lap of the Legislative Branch.
As a relative newcomer to politics (911 woke me up), I am encouraged that people from all segments of society are becoming more and more committed to participating in the political process. Blogsites such as this one help to frame ideas in the realm of the marketplace of ideas. However, both political parties seem disconnected from their constituents in a way that I have never before seen. More than apathy, more than disaffection, there is a growing sense of outrage and indignance among voters across the board with our political institutions and the people who occupy the positions of leadership.
I believe that President Bush recognized this growing trend, which is a long-term menace to our representative republic, even before he took the first Presidential Oath. Although I have been baffled over the years at how much he has let himself be used as a punching bag, I respect the fact that, even having been pilloried to the extreme, he still reaches out his hand to his political opponents and enemies. I hope that all of us who post here on a regular basis can attempt to emulate his example.
I, too have been wondering what will become of this blogsite by the time the next occupant takes the White House. I'm heartened to hear that you (like the Maharushie) don't plan on going anywhere...
Let's also try to remember that, like teenage liberal, we were once in a state of ignorance and darkness. Our feelings were valid, even if misguided, just as TL's feelings clearly are. I'm glad I made it through to my "ripe" age of 46. I'm also very glad that I no longer feel the waves of unfocused passion and rage that I felt when I was 15...
Although it certainly hasn't gotten any easier for me since then, and the stakes probably are higher now than ever before, I have a quiet patience growing within that reminds me that we all are just a fleeting blink of life. What might appear to be of huge import today might not matter a whit in a blink of an eye...
Anyway, great posts everybody!
Posted by: dbogdan at April 7, 2006 12:55 AM
Finally we have some honor in the White House.....
ND, you must be joking. Chimpy restoring honor in the WH?!
On second thought, you're right! I mean Chimpy lying about the reasons to attack Iraq really boosted our popularity with the American people and with other nations!
A fine example of what happens when patrotitism is used to blind and brainwash the masses.
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 7, 2006 01:39 AM
teenage liberal,
Actually, they didn't teach you right from wrong - had they done so, you wouldn't have been so rude.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 7, 2006 01:41 AM
Oh and BTW HugeWang: thanks for the comedy.
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 7, 2006 01:42 AM
And actually Mark, my parents did. You don't know jack squat about me.
Posted by: teenage liberal at April 7, 2006 01:45 AM
Matt,
"And lets not forget that the Oval Office is now, once again, a place of honor and decency..."
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:24 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely you jest...I swear I can't believe some of these posts are serious. An administration awash in scandal, corruption, and lying is "a place of honor and decency"? Surely you jest.
Posted by: Rob at April 7, 2006 01:50 AM
teenaged liberal,
I can only go with what I know - and from what I can see, you are an ill-mannered, foul-mouthed youngster who probably needs a spanking...
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 7, 2006 01:54 AM
Rob,
Fake scandals ginned up by the Democrats and echoed by the MSM fail to impress....at least they fail to impress me.
You guys are so desperate to have someone as far down in the muck as Clinton that you've taken to just making stuff up about President Bush...and while an endlessly repeated lie can convince some, most of us are on to the Big Lie and so discount it.
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 7, 2006 01:56 AM
Rob, you're joking right? You can't be that brain-dead. You mean you are so gullible and ignorant that you believed all those phony scandals? Bush never once lied to the American people. Yet you drank the kool-aid and went back for seconds. You and the rest of the brain-dead liberal trolls all need to learn how to become consumers of the news and not believe everything CBS feeds you. Can't you think for yourselves? Obviously not. It never ceases to amuse me how liberals can be so wrong about absolutely everything. Up is down. Good is bad. Bad is good. The truth is a lie and lies are the truth. You believe every lie you hear from the desperate left, yet you deny and ignore all truth. It is a sad, sad condition that you liberals are in.
Posted by: NDinformer at April 7, 2006 02:06 AM
Hey littlewang-aka-Dave Roberts the porn star, good to hear your useless drivel again! It's been missed......no really!!!
I've got a lie for you liberals, "I LIKE YOU GUYS"! Fortunately for you, that wouldn't stop me from doing my job!!! I guess you should impeach the whole U.S. military(oh wait you guys would like that)!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 7, 2006 02:33 AM
dbogdan
Enjoyed reading your comments. Lots of thoughtful insight.
Posted by: Canadian Observer at April 7, 2006 09:57 AM
I was born and raised a Democrat. Mom and dad was high up in the union, that is where they found each other, dated and got married.
I changed to the GOP when Ronald Reagan was running, Jimmy Carter made me ashamed at all the support I had given to Dick Celeste, Johnn Glenn and Howard Metzenbaum. I know from 1st hand experience what it meant to be a Democrat, and I despised it.
I support Bush about 90% of the time - My main problem with him is his stance on illegal’s in this country. The current Democrats and I have almost nothing in common, other than breathing the
same air - KKKOS and folks that they support, you couldn't pay me enough money to be that anti-American, anti-business, anti-military, anti-church, anti-boy scouts and anti-family, Especially the anti-family part.
Bush has my support. The alternative ( Kerry, don’t make me laugh ) would be downright awful for this country.
Posted by: Paul Lewis at April 7, 2006 10:47 AM
Truth be known, I missed you too BearmanUSMC. Now don't be gettin' all soft on me hear. It makes my eyes a bit weapy when I have to go run teh shine still, with precision hands
Posted by:
HugeWangUSAF at April 7, 2006 10:49 AM
Well Mr.Porter John, Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40, But your beloved dimwit Bush, his poll numbers are even lower!
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 7, 2006 12:37 PM
Well Mr.Porter John, Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40, But your beloved dimwit Bush, his poll numbers are even lower!
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 7, 2006 12:37 PM
William J. Clinton
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
Crime Stats:
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
What Clinton did for his party:
- GOP seats gained in House since Clinton became president: 48
- GOP seats gained in Senate since Clinton became president: 8
- GOP governorships gained since Clinton became president: 11
- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254
as of 1998
- State legislatures taken over by GOP since Clinton became president: 9
- Democrat officeholders who have become Republicans since Clinton became
president: 439 as of 1998
- Republican officeholders who have become Democrats since Clinton became president: 3
WHAT A GREAT PRESIDENT THAT CLINTON WAS.
Posted by: Falgore at April 7, 2006 01:14 PM
W will be remembered for protecting the USA. His likeness should be chiseled in on Mt. Rushmore. After 9/11 I will always remember him on the WTC rubble telling the world we were going after the people responsible for the attack.
"We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and we will not fail.
Peace and freedom will prevail."
- George W. Bush, 2001
Posted by:
ProfSKienle at April 7, 2006 02:13 PM
This thread was fun! I gotta hand it to some of you guys, cuz if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would have thought it would be near impossible to out-teenage a teenage liberal, lol!
And HWUSAF, that was about the silliest post I ever read. I spit my Pabst all over my screen -- through my nose! Good work!
And what can I say about dbogdan... excellent post. I visit all kinds of sites -- far left, far right, and various flavors of MOR, and you're right -- the real George Bush stands somewhere in between the flames of either pole. If I have one complaint about the guy it would be that he doesn't adequately distinguish his persona as President and Commander in Chief and his persona as a politician. In that respect I don't give a shit where he stands in relation to Clinton. We deserve better. And for that reason I think it is especially hard to agree with your admonishment that we conflate our respect for the Office of the President with the president himself. But other than that I thought it was a great post.
Posted by: Ricorun at April 7, 2006 02:15 PM
Ricorun,
I appreciate your analysis of my posts and thank you for your kind words. You have a good point when you mention that we shouldn't conflate our respect for the Office with the officeholder. At the time I posted this comment, I considered going into a warning about "cult of personality," but decided that I'd gone on long enough...
I recognize that our constitution (however valid it is any more) does provide for removal from office when personal offenses are egregious and harmful to the nation. Impeachment is the extreme remedy and should not be used as a tool to criminalize political philosophy, however. But that's a discussion for another day...
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 7, 2006 03:41 PM
Mr Stupip Said: "Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40" I presume you have some study to backup that up or were you just making it up like all other donk 'facts'
Oh, the name is Jervis, not John and its Mister Jervis to you.
Posted by: Porter Jervis at April 7, 2006 04:21 PM
Miss Porta-john Jervis here are some facts for you and the republi-idiots, the recently released AP-Ipsos survey is loaded with grim election-year news for the Republican party struggling to stay in power. Nearly 70% of Americans believe the nation is headed in the wrong direction, the largest percentage during the Bush presidency and up 13 points from a year ago.
"These numbers are scary. We've lost every advantage we've ever had," GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio said. Democratic leaders predicted they will seize control of one or both chambers of Congress in November. Republicans said they feared the worst unless the political landscape quickly changes.
There is more at stake than the careers of GOP lawmakers. A Democratic-led Congress could bury the last vestiges of Bush's legislative agenda and subject the administration to high-profile investigations of the Iraq war, the CIA leak case, warrantless eavesdropping and other matters.
Oh Happy days are almost here, can you smell that Impeachment Pie in the oven? It is gonna be YUMMY!
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 7, 2006 05:24 PM
I acknowledge that things are not going well for the President and the Republicrats these days. But your display of shadenfreude belies the fact that the Demublicans are in a heap of trouble as well... Not noted in this latest poll to my knowledge, but evident in almost all other polls taken on the President's approval numbers, is the fact that however low President Bush's approval numbers are, Congress' approval numbers are consistently 3 to 4 points lower.
I've blogged on the subject of the President's trials and tribulations at my home blogsite,
blog.danielbogdan.com
Stop by and have a quick read. Tell me what you think...
Democrats have been predicting that they'd "sweep to power" since 1994, yet they perennially fall short when the only polls that matter take place. The Republicrats SHOULD fear the worst at this point, because they've assiduously alienated portions of their base on issue after issue for the past several years. They'd better act fast to stanch the hemmorhaging from their base, or the victory will be theirs to lose, not the Dems' to win.
Once again, I wish there was a legitimate third party to vote for, since I'm bitter about both of them...
But, November is not quite yet upon us, and the political landscape could (and often does) change rapidly. Just look at how quickly the Demublicans were put into a defensive mode last week when Cynthia McKinney popped a policeman upside the head and went on a tear about alleged racial profiling. She completely took the wind out of the sails of her party's agenda and added fuel to the fire of controversy in the process. Tom DeLay's departure was pushed to the background, much to the dismay of the antique media and their Demublican coherts.
But let's assume for the sake of argument, that the Demublicans "sweep to power" this November. Do you think for a moment that the Republicrats haven't learned from the dirty, smarmy tactics used by Tom Daschle and Harry Reid? The biggest disappointment for me with the Republicrats over the past 5 years is that they haven't rolled up their sleeves and dived into the gutter with the Demublicans to fight tooth and nail. They've been far too gentleman-like, and I've told them so time and again. If they are put into a minority status, I imagine that they'll employ the same "dig in the heels and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct" policy that the Demublicans have used. I'll do all I can to aid them in that effort. What's good for the goose, will be good for the gander, right?
And before you put on your gloating bib to eat that Impeachment Pie, you'd better put a fork in it to make sure it isn't really Crow.....
See you in November, where the only poll that matters will take place!
LOL!!
Posted by:
dbogdan at April 7, 2006 05:57 PM
Wow IIS, you are as stupid as you sound! Do you sincerely feel that the republicans demise would be the rise of the loony left! Your side is just creating a disaster for everyone including yourselves! And you wonder why we call you people traitors!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 7, 2006 06:00 PM
As a Brit, I tend to look at what Bush has achieved from a point of view from the outside-looking-in.
While Clinton was a very reassuring President, I think you have to accept that his achievements given the time he had in power were pretty minimal. He was a feel-good President with very little real bite.
Bush, by comparison, has done a great deal (whether you agree with his actions or not.) In that sense, the man is a true leader. He has not been afraid to make difficult decisions, even when those decisions proved unpopular. You have to give kudos to the guy for that.
How anyone could seriously have believed that lightweight fool Kerry would have made a better leader than Bush is beyond comprehension. You need decisive people to lead, people who can make tough calls on the spur of the moment. Bush definitely fits the bill, even if you don't agree with him on many of his choices. Personally, I think he has led a tremendous war against terror given the information presented before him. Just think what it must have been like to be in his shoes for a moment to understand the difficulty of his situation. He has aquitted himself well.
Incidentally, that teenage liberal guy is an embarassment to your country. I say this is a person from the UK - if your teenagers are that poorly educated and incapable of writing a coherent sentence, you have definitely fallen a long way. I can only assume teenage liberal is the child of an Hispanic immigrant. That would at least explain the poor spelling and grammar (and politics, for that matter.)
Anyway, good luck with the future, you guys. And don't worry if you take a little flack along the way - great achievements are often only recognised as such long after the event.
Posted by: DPolwarth at April 8, 2006 04:53 AM
Matt Margolis is off his medication again!
One of the reasons he sucks up to the most failed president in history is because he's going to help us acheive energy independence?????
Exactly how has he proposed to do that? Oh yeah, drilling in the ANWAR. That will make us energy independent for about 2 seconds.
"The truth is the lies and the lies are the truth".
Got bad news for Moron Margolis: The ship is sinking. The rats are jumping off the ship. Jump, Matt, before it's too late. You have try harder and harder to cover up the incompetence, lies and hubris that the rest of the country is waking up to. Jump Matt, before it's too late!
Posted by: cookiecorp at April 8, 2006 07:58 AM
Dpolwarth, Thanks for the encouraging words, outsider views are greatly appreciated at a time like this!
Cookie, Tis amazing how you in all your glory can gloat about Bushes failed presidency when the guy has resoundly spanked your party leaders at every turn! Maybe if you and yours manage to do something other than screwing with polls you might have something to gloat about! In the meantime you should highly consider whose a.. you may be kissing in a couple of years as things are looking rather slim & grim on both sides of the isle, rather than cheering the betrayal & underminding of this great country!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 8, 2006 10:55 PM
That would depend where you are standing. I'm sure you could walk around Wayland or Weston all day with a Bush t-shirt on and get nothing but thumbs up. Just like you could in Walnut Creek or Burlingame, CA - not 20 miles from San Francisco. ;-)
But seriously, I have to respect a man with convictions, even if they differ from mine.
I support Bush, Cause he is the manifestation of the South Rising again. CSA Fo-EVa!
My granpappy told me to save them Confederate dollars, and now that we gots us a president so divisive and such, there's not much doubt we'll be plum rich, with what we got stuffin our mattresses. The South has Rised up again!
On a side note, I don't think Bush is so bad. He's worked hard to put us all in the situation we're in. SO with that he's darn 'ffective at putin as in the ituation we're in, who cares what the Harry Taylor says anyway.
So be it that Iraq is a, now what'd that veteran descrive it to me 'gan, oh yeah a Quagmire. I read on Fox news that that just might be a good thing, but that the media has also mad eit up, if it is real, but it'd be good if it were. My head hurst I better take a pull off the whiskey.
Then them Tax cuts. I keep hearing from Matt 'bout how good they be for the economy and all. But Maybe he's reffering to fuel economy or something, cause I aint livin no better, then when Slick Willy was bangin interns. But I guess maybe if I owned a SUV or somethin I'd notice the diffrence. You think?
Matt
Do you also stand behind Bush when he lies, lies, lies? He has been caught so many times if it wasn't so pathetic it would be laughable.
He is not the good person you think he is. America can do much better and hopefully it will.
That fails to mention that he put in place two S.C. justices who understand their role as something other than writing law. Perhaps barely (with Miers in mind), but he did it.
Matt, that wouldn't have been Canadian Observer who sent you that e-mail, would it? Sounds like something he'd say; it's his mantra...
Matt,
And lets not forget that the Oval Office is now, once again, a place of honor and decency...
Seriously Mark et all:
Why do you contine to support Chimpy McFlightsuit after he and his band of shady neo-con circus freaks have done damn near everything to drag our good name though the mud for the radical Republicans and corporate intrests? It's self-destructive? Hell, i'm 15 and I know better that to trust this jackass!
A place of honor and decency? Ignorance is total Bliss for you jerk-offs. When Bush leaves, if he escapes impeachment, this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!
Teenaged Liberal,
Your assignment for the weekend is to read "The Conservative Mind" by Russell Kirk.
That'll fix what ailes you....even if your parents and teachers are the most mind-numbed liberals the world has ever seen, a bit of Kirk will free your mind...
IIS,
Not at all - there's Jeb Bush, and then his son, George...an endless supply of Bush's to keep you up at night worrying...
Canadian,
Well, there's the disconnect - we don't see a single lie; heck, not even the normal run of a politician shading the truth and spinning things to his advantage. President Bush is a straightforward....probably the most honest man we've had in office in more than a century.
YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT LIES?
"If a President of the United States ever lied to the American people, he should resign."
- Bill Clinton July, 1974
"I want to say one thing to the American people. I'm going to say this again. I did not have sexual relations with that woman, Miss Lewinsky. I never told anybody to lie. Not a single time. Never. These allegations are false and I need to go back to work for the American people."
- Bill Clinton
Some jerk said:"this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!"
Hey, who's keeping you here? Move along little boy. This is the adult swim.
The same was said about Limbaugh and he is as popular as ever.
Your correspendent is a condescending phony, Matt. Or a "seminar-emailer." Kind of like, "Hey, great blog, and I think you're smart and bright, but...."
Just goes to show how yawning the partisan divide in our country is, anymore. Each side has its own "truth" and "reality" because the Left cannot deal with the genuine article. They become hopelessly inured to their own self-delusions and eventually can't remember the difference - and then express astonishment at somebody that can.
Remember the "emperor who had no clothes"? The Democrat Party is an entire nudist colony, pointing the finger at us for "indecent exposure."
And you know which finger I'm talking about.
Incidentally, to any of the dissident commenters above who find my words sufficiently provocative, I'm neither young nor old; but when I was young, people like you said the same things to me about my avid support for Ronald Reagan. Which illustrates that some things really do never change.
Mark,
Thanks for the advice, but after seeing these Republican crooks, demagouges and frauds in action over the past two years, it's impossible for me to EVER trust, let alone vote for any of these people. My only wish is that some of these Democrats would acually grow a pair and not be bullied by these a-holes in office!
Mark,
Thanks for the advice, but after seeing and reading about these crooks, liars, religious bottom feeders, and so-forth, it's impossible for me to even trust, let alone vote for any of these guys. My only wish is for some leader to unite the people and help us find some common f&*ing ground!
Beautifully and articulately spoken.
The Bush lied song and dance is old. Come up with something better.
Teenager,
If you're young and not a liberal, you have no heart. If you're old and not a conservative, you have no brain.
Wasn't that Winston Churchill, somebody help me here.
Damn, I didn't read through your post Mark! Look here, (sweet, wonderful guy): i'm gonna make this clear to you-don't you dare call my parents dumb. At least they've taught me right from wrong..........and its damn clear that Chimpy has done wrong and needs to be held accountable for his actions, i.e.:
-declaring war on a nation that had no ties to Al-Qaeda or 9.11
-wiretapping Americans without a warrant
-authorizing the leaking a CIA operative for political revenge
-killing 2,000 + American troops and killing 100,000 Iraqi citizens for big oil
-torture
And the Chimp claims he's a born-again Christian? He's a fraud along with Robertson, Falwell, DeLay, Santourm, Hannity, Coulter and any other right-wing lunatic who confuses their spooky hate speech/policies with the word of Christ.
I take what I said at 7:14 PM back. You can take your book and (please take care of) it, pal.
(Edited for obscenity)
**sigh**
Teenage angst and confusion ~ I weep for our future.
**sigh**
At least he dealing with it well, huh?
"Probably the most honest man we've had in office in more than a century." -Noonan
Let's talk about Dubya's connection to the Plame link, shall we?
I can't wait to see the parrots defend their fearless leader on this one. Mark, you first.
Wow everyone will Lie, hell I see no one making a big deal about Clinton expressing on T.V about Monica and to me that was a big deal.Being military I have funded and supported my Commander in Chief from day one. People in the states have become so oblivious to what the hell happened on 9/11. I work here in Gitmo Bay, Cuba doing detention ops for these jihad members. Some people will never understand what needed to be done, why don't you thank Clinton for allowing several terrorist attacks go unanswered. Which brought on the events taking place. Man you people are blind. GO BUSH!
Hell, i'm 15...
...and you write at a third-grade level. Your parents, and your little brother, Baloney2000, must be proud...
Wow. This liberal teenager just needs to grow up and realize that he's living a lie. He's blinded by a bunch of bullshit. He's a liberal. Who in the hell wants the government to take more of their money? A liberal. Who wants more government control and free handouts? A liberal. You know, if you look at the Democratic Party's platform, it looks eerily similar to the communist manifesto. Liberals are turning this Constitutional Republic into socialism.
That should read "leak," not "link."
Wow. This liberal teenager just needs to grow up and realize that he's living a lie. He's blinded by a bunch of bullshit. He's a liberal. Who in the hell wants the government to take more of their money? A liberal. Who wants more government control and free handouts? A liberal. You know, if you look at the Democratic Party's platform, it looks eerily similar to the communist manifesto. Liberals are turning this Constitutional Republic into socialism.
Chimpy McFlightsuit? hahaha, is this guy serious, or just that stupid?
When Bush leaves, if he escapes impeachment, this Blog is out business in 2 years anyways. I for one am counting the days!
Almost three years left, Wanker. We're counting the days too--we'll see you in Blogs for Romney, Blogs for Allen, or Blogs for (insert GOP contender here)...
Matt, great post. Talking about the accomplishments of President Bush, you could go on and on. Starting with his inspired and brilliant leadership after 9/11, which helped bring this country together and go forward to fight World War 3, with a steel resolve. How about small stuff, like the lowest crime rate in 30 years. How about getting this country out of the stock market bubble recession that his predessesor handed him, into a growing, strong economy. How about corporate reform and going after corporate criminals, you know, all that corporate corruption which occurred on his predessesors watch, like Enron and Worldcom. How about finally passing a prescription drug program, so all our parents can get cheaper drugs, so they don't have to decide between eating and getting their heart medication. How about reforming the US Supreme Court, to prevent the liberals on the court from pulling more boners, like taking away everybodys property rights. How about bringing character, integrity and honesty back into the White House. How about savings thousands of lives in New Orleans by begging the governor and mayor to issue an evacuation order, which they would not have otherwise and in bringing in the federal troops to save the day when the governor and mayor had so failed their people and abrigated their responsibility. President Bush is a man of action, who means what he says and is solely motivated to tackle tough problems and try and solve them for the good of the country. President Bush has brought honor to the office, all the while keeping his chin up, while having to deal with the worst slander and lies by the other party and its one party media, since President Abraham Lincoln. And also he has freed 50 million people, captured the worst mass murderer in the past 50 years and has brought the hope of freedom where it never existed. I am excited by what he has achieved and what he has yet to achieve in his remaining years. President George W. Bush, the greatest president in american history.
Posted by: keefer at April 6, 2006 07:48 PM
"He who lives in glass houses shouldn't be throwing stones."
Have a nice day.
Oh and for anyone who was wondering, Chimpy McFlightsuit is the nickname for President Bush.
Keefer
As I've said before, even if you claim to be a mature adult, your comments seem very child-like.
Teenage liberal shows more maturity in his posts than you do in yours.
Why is that?
Oh Canada
Please list the lies, lies, lies, lies
Thank you.
What does that make John Kerry?
Frankenstein McFlipflop?
Aficionado, that was FUNNY! I'm partial to Ted Chappaquddick Creature Kennedy...
Warriornation
Would an honest leader have brought all this anguish, grief and pain upon his people? The lies are there for you to see, if you choose to, but no one can force you to open your eyes. That is something you will have to do for yourself.
Men,
Let's all take a deep breath regarding the Teenage Liberal. keefer my good hetero friend you know I won't be askin you twice to holster your pistol when thinking about the boy. I know you get excited by such talk.
Let me take him under my wing and give him a talk about true conservative values and such. As he obviously has been misled.
Here teenage Liberal take a Pabst, yeah pull the tab off just like so there you go. Drink it slow. Goes down smooth, no? You see being conservtive is more about being legally too drunk to drive, yet being just sober enough to stagger into the voting booth, then any sort of political rational.
Whenever those creeping feelings of morality amd ethics creep in your head, take a slug of booze, and you'll be right back in line. You'll need increasing amounts over time due to what we call "Tolerance", so when them liberal bleading hearts try to drag you off to an AA meeting you just remind them that you're doing your best to support Bush by maintaning a constant buzz, unlike them, the treasonous sober people.
Probably the greatest asset of any conservetive is the ignoring of the book of Mathew. You know..The book where Jesus himself advises us all to be weary of those who practive their religion in front of others.
This whole show moraility thing can be of use to you. Heck it worked well for our leader Tom Delay. Why those indictemenst and charges were all the work of people jealous of his devotion to our Lord and Savior Jesus of Nazaerth. It seemed to be workin well and all for him, up 'till yesterday when he got shooed outta town.
So I tried it maself on the traffic cop after I blew through a stop sign. When he asked me to step outta ma car, why I refused to take that breath-a-lizer test on the grounds that I already had a GED and I was a born again Christian.
No test is needed to show that I wasn't drunk cept' ma cross, (which I hastily put together with popcycle sticks and scotch tape. Mind you write that tip down). So when he wadn't buyin it I was pert mad, though I wasn't sure which of my two fibs he don't believe.
SO I got down on my knees in the middle of the road and prayed for his soul and that teh Lord might help him find the wisdom to let me off the hook. Then I really started prayin hard like with my eyes squinted shut all hard like and focusin real hard, just to show him I meant business,which oddly gave him the perfect chace to strap them handcuffs on.
Make a long story short my young Liberal friend you need practice your religion in public places and to get our of trouble, but avoid putting your hands close enough together while show prayin to be cuffed in that pose.
Write that down and follow it truely and you will find yourself a true redstater like me.
Interesting how difficult it is to differentiate between adolescent ranting and the normal addle-minded drivel promulgated by the typical stale liberal.
Liberals are such ignorant tools.
I am so happy that we have George W. Bush as our President. Finally we have some honor in the White House after 8 years of utter corruption, BS, and incompetence by the Clintons. I'm so glad that the white-trash Clintons are gone from the White House and we have some adults running the show now. George W. Bush demonstrates more honor, dignity, and honesty in one day than the Clintons have in the last 30 years of their lives.
Liberals lost an election in 2000 that they tried to steal and they lost an election again in 2004 that they built all of their hopes and dreams upon. That is why they are running around squealing like a bunch of angry stuck pigs, spouting off a never-ending supply of incomprehensible ignorance, foolishness, dishonesty and hatred.
Every time I read a post on this site by some of the liberal trolls that post here I see more of the same foolish, ignorant drivel. There is no talking sense to these libs. They have no sense.
HugewangUSAF is not a redstater. He's a liberal. You see, he has no idea what it's like to be a conservative. He's too ignorant.
"Teenage angst and confusion ~ I weep for our future."
And I rejoice for our future as I weep for our present. Teenager: Just read the posts critical of you and ask yourself: Do I want to grow up and be like these hateful people? Your on the right path, just stay the course.
Can we have a competition for who's the bigger Bushbot - James Allegro or ND Informer? Can you both take your heads out of Dubya's ass and do battle with each other for us all to see?
You guys are a sad lot. Blind support for an
incompetent, arrogant, and corrupt administration.
You sheep really, really need to get out of Kansas and see other parts of the country - other parts of the *world* - open up your eyes. And the truth shall set you free.
Matt, keefer, CanadianO, Republican, maf, Bane, teenage, et al...
I found this topic and the treatement thereof to be highly insightful, in that it brought out the complex dynamics that surround our current President and Commander-in-Chief in a concise way that I've never before seen. It runs the full gamut of emotional, psychological, and political contradictions that surround this particular individual as President at this very critical point in our nation's history.
On the one hand, we've got a very convincing citation of accomplishments and strengths of President Bush. On the other, a series of criticisms and allegations are put forward that are equally passionate and convincing in their context. Somewhere between left and right, apart from the ad hominum comments about the President, and each other, stands George W. Bush. For all of our contemporary commentaries, a measure of his true significance has not even begun to develop. History will be his final judge, not the passionate, sometimes glib remarks that we proffer here to each other.
Love him or hate him, the man has faced some serious challenges in his position as President. Clearly, as Americans, it's too late for buyer's remorse. He has his "warts" politically speaking. I vehemently disagree with him on several issues, yet I understand that despite those differences, he occupies the office of President of the United States. I must respect that office, nothwithstanding the individual who occupies it. That's part of our assumedly shared history as a nation - that the institutions that we've been handed from generations past are the instruments through which we advance our social concerns and work toward common solutions. George W. Bush deserves respect and support from this nation, even with all his warts, because the office deserves respect and support. Hearing how people tear into him causes me great pain, because whether they know it or not, tearing down or disrespecting a President is also tearing down and disrespecting the Presidency.
Having said that, I will freely admit that I feel a growing sense of disappointment in President Bush's leadership at this point in time. Although my personal situation economically and such is markedly more secure now that it was in 2000, I see growing signs of serious trouble ahead for this nation. Part of this might be attributed to President Bush's domestic and foreign policies, but a good deal of it also rests firmly in the lap of the Legislative Branch.
As a relative newcomer to politics (911 woke me up), I am encouraged that people from all segments of society are becoming more and more committed to participating in the political process. Blogsites such as this one help to frame ideas in the realm of the marketplace of ideas. However, both political parties seem disconnected from their constituents in a way that I have never before seen. More than apathy, more than disaffection, there is a growing sense of outrage and indignance among voters across the board with our political institutions and the people who occupy the positions of leadership.
I believe that President Bush recognized this growing trend, which is a long-term menace to our representative republic, even before he took the first Presidential Oath. Although I have been baffled over the years at how much he has let himself be used as a punching bag, I respect the fact that, even having been pilloried to the extreme, he still reaches out his hand to his political opponents and enemies. I hope that all of us who post here on a regular basis can attempt to emulate his example.
I, too have been wondering what will become of this blogsite by the time the next occupant takes the White House. I'm heartened to hear that you (like the Maharushie) don't plan on going anywhere...
Let's also try to remember that, like teenage liberal, we were once in a state of ignorance and darkness. Our feelings were valid, even if misguided, just as TL's feelings clearly are. I'm glad I made it through to my "ripe" age of 46. I'm also very glad that I no longer feel the waves of unfocused passion and rage that I felt when I was 15...
Although it certainly hasn't gotten any easier for me since then, and the stakes probably are higher now than ever before, I have a quiet patience growing within that reminds me that we all are just a fleeting blink of life. What might appear to be of huge import today might not matter a whit in a blink of an eye...
Anyway, great posts everybody!
Finally we have some honor in the White House.....
ND, you must be joking. Chimpy restoring honor in the WH?!
On second thought, you're right! I mean Chimpy lying about the reasons to attack Iraq really boosted our popularity with the American people and with other nations!
A fine example of what happens when patrotitism is used to blind and brainwash the masses.
teenage liberal,
Actually, they didn't teach you right from wrong - had they done so, you wouldn't have been so rude.
Oh and BTW HugeWang: thanks for the comedy.
And actually Mark, my parents did. You don't know jack squat about me.
Matt,
"And lets not forget that the Oval Office is now, once again, a place of honor and decency..."
Posted by: Mark Noonan at April 6, 2006 06:24 PM
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Surely you jest...I swear I can't believe some of these posts are serious. An administration awash in scandal, corruption, and lying is "a place of honor and decency"? Surely you jest.
teenaged liberal,
I can only go with what I know - and from what I can see, you are an ill-mannered, foul-mouthed youngster who probably needs a spanking...
Rob,
Fake scandals ginned up by the Democrats and echoed by the MSM fail to impress....at least they fail to impress me.
You guys are so desperate to have someone as far down in the muck as Clinton that you've taken to just making stuff up about President Bush...and while an endlessly repeated lie can convince some, most of us are on to the Big Lie and so discount it.
Rob, you're joking right? You can't be that brain-dead. You mean you are so gullible and ignorant that you believed all those phony scandals? Bush never once lied to the American people. Yet you drank the kool-aid and went back for seconds. You and the rest of the brain-dead liberal trolls all need to learn how to become consumers of the news and not believe everything CBS feeds you. Can't you think for yourselves? Obviously not. It never ceases to amuse me how liberals can be so wrong about absolutely everything. Up is down. Good is bad. Bad is good. The truth is a lie and lies are the truth. You believe every lie you hear from the desperate left, yet you deny and ignore all truth. It is a sad, sad condition that you liberals are in.
Hey littlewang-aka-Dave Roberts the porn star, good to hear your useless drivel again! It's been missed......no really!!!
I've got a lie for you liberals, "I LIKE YOU GUYS"! Fortunately for you, that wouldn't stop me from doing my job!!! I guess you should impeach the whole U.S. military(oh wait you guys would like that)!
dbogdan
Enjoyed reading your comments. Lots of thoughtful insight.
I was born and raised a Democrat. Mom and dad was high up in the union, that is where they found each other, dated and got married.
I changed to the GOP when Ronald Reagan was running, Jimmy Carter made me ashamed at all the support I had given to Dick Celeste, Johnn Glenn and Howard Metzenbaum. I know from 1st hand experience what it meant to be a Democrat, and I despised it.
I support Bush about 90% of the time - My main problem with him is his stance on illegal’s in this country. The current Democrats and I have almost nothing in common, other than breathing the
same air - KKKOS and folks that they support, you couldn't pay me enough money to be that anti-American, anti-business, anti-military, anti-church, anti-boy scouts and anti-family, Especially the anti-family part.
Bush has my support. The alternative ( Kerry, don’t make me laugh ) would be downright awful for this country.
Truth be known, I missed you too BearmanUSMC. Now don't be gettin' all soft on me hear. It makes my eyes a bit weapy when I have to go run teh shine still, with precision hands
Well Mr.Porter John, Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40, But your beloved dimwit Bush, his poll numbers are even lower!
Well Mr.Porter John, Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40, But your beloved dimwit Bush, his poll numbers are even lower!
William J. Clinton
- The only president ever impeached on grounds of personal malfeasance
- Most number of convictions and guilty pleas by friends and associates*
- Most number of cabinet officials to come under criminal investigation
- Most number of witnesses to flee country or refuse to testify
- Most number of witnesses to die suddenly
- First president sued for sexual harassment.
- First president accused of rape.
- First first lady to come under criminal investigation
- Largest criminal plea agreement in an illegal campaign contribution case
- First president to establish a legal defense fund.
- First president to be held in contempt of court
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions
- Greatest amount of illegal campaign contributions from abroad
Crime Stats:
- Number of individuals and businesses associated with the Clinton machine who have been convicted of or pleaded guilty to crimes: 47
- Number of these convictions during Clinton's presidency: 33
- Number of indictments/misdemeanor charges: 61
- Number of congressional witnesses who have pleaded the Fifth Amendment, fled the country to avoid testifying, or (in the case of foreign witnesses) refused to be interviewed: 122
What Clinton did for his party:
- GOP seats gained in House since Clinton became president: 48
- GOP seats gained in Senate since Clinton became president: 8
- GOP governorships gained since Clinton became president: 11
- GOP state legislative seats gained since Clinton became president: 1,254
as of 1998
- State legislatures taken over by GOP since Clinton became president: 9
- Democrat officeholders who have become Republicans since Clinton became
president: 439 as of 1998
- Republican officeholders who have become Democrats since Clinton became president: 3
WHAT A GREAT PRESIDENT THAT CLINTON WAS.
W will be remembered for protecting the USA. His likeness should be chiseled in on Mt. Rushmore. After 9/11 I will always remember him on the WTC rubble telling the world we were going after the people responsible for the attack.
"We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter; and we will not fail.
Peace and freedom will prevail."
- George W. Bush, 2001
This thread was fun! I gotta hand it to some of you guys, cuz if I hadn't seen it with my own eyes I would have thought it would be near impossible to out-teenage a teenage liberal, lol!
And HWUSAF, that was about the silliest post I ever read. I spit my Pabst all over my screen -- through my nose! Good work!
And what can I say about dbogdan... excellent post. I visit all kinds of sites -- far left, far right, and various flavors of MOR, and you're right -- the real George Bush stands somewhere in between the flames of either pole. If I have one complaint about the guy it would be that he doesn't adequately distinguish his persona as President and Commander in Chief and his persona as a politician. In that respect I don't give a shit where he stands in relation to Clinton. We deserve better. And for that reason I think it is especially hard to agree with your admonishment that we conflate our respect for the Office of the President with the president himself. But other than that I thought it was a great post.
Ricorun,
I appreciate your analysis of my posts and thank you for your kind words. You have a good point when you mention that we shouldn't conflate our respect for the Office with the officeholder. At the time I posted this comment, I considered going into a warning about "cult of personality," but decided that I'd gone on long enough...
I recognize that our constitution (however valid it is any more) does provide for removal from office when personal offenses are egregious and harmful to the nation. Impeachment is the extreme remedy and should not be used as a tool to criminalize political philosophy, however. But that's a discussion for another day...
Mr Stupip Said: "Limbaugh maybe popular for those with IQ's below 40" I presume you have some study to backup that up or were you just making it up like all other donk 'facts'
Oh, the name is Jervis, not John and its Mister Jervis to you.
Miss Porta-john Jervis here are some facts for you and the republi-idiots, the recently released AP-Ipsos survey is loaded with grim election-year news for the Republican party struggling to stay in power. Nearly 70% of Americans believe the nation is headed in the wrong direction, the largest percentage during the Bush presidency and up 13 points from a year ago.
"These numbers are scary. We've lost every advantage we've ever had," GOP pollster Tony Fabrizio said. Democratic leaders predicted they will seize control of one or both chambers of Congress in November. Republicans said they feared the worst unless the political landscape quickly changes.
There is more at stake than the careers of GOP lawmakers. A Democratic-led Congress could bury the last vestiges of Bush's legislative agenda and subject the administration to high-profile investigations of the Iraq war, the CIA leak case, warrantless eavesdropping and other matters.
Oh Happy days are almost here, can you smell that Impeachment Pie in the oven? It is gonna be YUMMY!
I acknowledge that things are not going well for the President and the Republicrats these days. But your display of shadenfreude belies the fact that the Demublicans are in a heap of trouble as well... Not noted in this latest poll to my knowledge, but evident in almost all other polls taken on the President's approval numbers, is the fact that however low President Bush's approval numbers are, Congress' approval numbers are consistently 3 to 4 points lower.
I've blogged on the subject of the President's trials and tribulations at my home blogsite,
blog.danielbogdan.com
Stop by and have a quick read. Tell me what you think...
Democrats have been predicting that they'd "sweep to power" since 1994, yet they perennially fall short when the only polls that matter take place. The Republicrats SHOULD fear the worst at this point, because they've assiduously alienated portions of their base on issue after issue for the past several years. They'd better act fast to stanch the hemmorhaging from their base, or the victory will be theirs to lose, not the Dems' to win.
Once again, I wish there was a legitimate third party to vote for, since I'm bitter about both of them...
But, November is not quite yet upon us, and the political landscape could (and often does) change rapidly. Just look at how quickly the Demublicans were put into a defensive mode last week when Cynthia McKinney popped a policeman upside the head and went on a tear about alleged racial profiling. She completely took the wind out of the sails of her party's agenda and added fuel to the fire of controversy in the process. Tom DeLay's departure was pushed to the background, much to the dismay of the antique media and their Demublican coherts.
But let's assume for the sake of argument, that the Demublicans "sweep to power" this November. Do you think for a moment that the Republicrats haven't learned from the dirty, smarmy tactics used by Tom Daschle and Harry Reid? The biggest disappointment for me with the Republicrats over the past 5 years is that they haven't rolled up their sleeves and dived into the gutter with the Demublicans to fight tooth and nail. They've been far too gentleman-like, and I've told them so time and again. If they are put into a minority status, I imagine that they'll employ the same "dig in the heels and obstruct, obstruct, obstruct" policy that the Demublicans have used. I'll do all I can to aid them in that effort. What's good for the goose, will be good for the gander, right?
And before you put on your gloating bib to eat that Impeachment Pie, you'd better put a fork in it to make sure it isn't really Crow.....
See you in November, where the only poll that matters will take place!
LOL!!
Wow IIS, you are as stupid as you sound! Do you sincerely feel that the republicans demise would be the rise of the loony left! Your side is just creating a disaster for everyone including yourselves! And you wonder why we call you people traitors!
As a Brit, I tend to look at what Bush has achieved from a point of view from the outside-looking-in.
While Clinton was a very reassuring President, I think you have to accept that his achievements given the time he had in power were pretty minimal. He was a feel-good President with very little real bite.
Bush, by comparison, has done a great deal (whether you agree with his actions or not.) In that sense, the man is a true leader. He has not been afraid to make difficult decisions, even when those decisions proved unpopular. You have to give kudos to the guy for that.
How anyone could seriously have believed that lightweight fool Kerry would have made a better leader than Bush is beyond comprehension. You need decisive people to lead, people who can make tough calls on the spur of the moment. Bush definitely fits the bill, even if you don't agree with him on many of his choices. Personally, I think he has led a tremendous war against terror given the information presented before him. Just think what it must have been like to be in his shoes for a moment to understand the difficulty of his situation. He has aquitted himself well.
Incidentally, that teenage liberal guy is an embarassment to your country. I say this is a person from the UK - if your teenagers are that poorly educated and incapable of writing a coherent sentence, you have definitely fallen a long way. I can only assume teenage liberal is the child of an Hispanic immigrant. That would at least explain the poor spelling and grammar (and politics, for that matter.)
Anyway, good luck with the future, you guys. And don't worry if you take a little flack along the way - great achievements are often only recognised as such long after the event.
Matt Margolis is off his medication again!
One of the reasons he sucks up to the most failed president in history is because he's going to help us acheive energy independence?????
Exactly how has he proposed to do that? Oh yeah, drilling in the ANWAR. That will make us energy independent for about 2 seconds.
"The truth is the lies and the lies are the truth".
Got bad news for Moron Margolis: The ship is sinking. The rats are jumping off the ship. Jump, Matt, before it's too late. You have try harder and harder to cover up the incompetence, lies and hubris that the rest of the country is waking up to. Jump Matt, before it's too late!
Dpolwarth, Thanks for the encouraging words, outsider views are greatly appreciated at a time like this!
Cookie, Tis amazing how you in all your glory can gloat about Bushes failed presidency when the guy has resoundly spanked your party leaders at every turn! Maybe if you and yours manage to do something other than screwing with polls you might have something to gloat about! In the meantime you should highly consider whose a.. you may be kissing in a couple of years as things are looking rather slim & grim on both sides of the isle, rather than cheering the betrayal & underminding of this great country!!!