Gee, I wonder who should be NEXT?
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney
Posted by: Paul at April 3, 2006 11:05 PM
I don't want to delay my expression of joy. Yahooooooooooooooo. Bye slimey Tom
Posted by: Ash at April 3, 2006 11:08 PM
so Ash should Mckinney be next? just wondering
Posted by: vero at April 3, 2006 11:13 PM
Frankly I don't even know who McKinney is.
Who is he?
Posted by: Ash at April 3, 2006 11:17 PM
She's just another crazy politician.
As for Tom, I don't really care at this point. The second this whole thing started he was presumed guilty and it won't matter even if he is found innocent he's been tarred and feathered and run out on the rail.
Posted by:
Gozer at April 3, 2006 11:22 PM
Hmmm, Ash has made the stereotypical cry of victory, triumphantly beating his chest over his vanquished opponent. It never enters the mind of the gorilla that his convictions may have been wrong or too hasty, only that he has won. He doesn't realize that what he's just killed was the lioness's cub, and the lioness is standing behind him.
Posted by: Omega Destructor at April 3, 2006 11:24 PM
"Frankly I don't even know who McKinney is.
Who is he?"
Bullshit - she is all over the news, she is in the last post before this one, you know, the one titled "McKinney Case Turned Over to Federal Prosecutor". You did not have to flat-out just lie about it. ANY credibility you has just been destroyed.
Now I wonder how many other times you have lied while posting here.
Posted by: vero at April 3, 2006 11:25 PM
"He doesn't realize that what he's just killed was the lioness's cub, and the lioness is standing behind him."
? What the heck does that mean? There can't be anyone sleazier than Tom Delay.
Posted by: Ash at April 3, 2006 11:26 PM
You'd better watch calling me a liar vero. I've got a lioness standing behind me.
I skipped the post on McKinney but had heard about someone slugging a guard. Just didn't catch the name. Hey I used to cover City Hall in St. Louis as a journalist and stuff like that happened all the time. Didn't really picque my interest.
You'll understand if I look elsewhere for information about this and get back to you..not that I don't take as gospel everythink Matt and Mark post...
Posted by: Ash at April 3, 2006 11:31 PM
Ash,
Come now, playing stupid won't work with me. You know as well as I that you didn't see Delay as a possibly corrupt politician, but as a convicted as guilty Republican. You're not taking a stand against corruption, just Conservatives. The lioness obviously symbolizes, since you viewed Delay as a reprehensible conservative leader, as the enabled conservative base. They're going to think that media scrutiny forced him out of office.
I'm sorry if you didn't like the symbolism. It's a tad on the corny side, but it's alright for spur of the moment.
Posted by: Omega Destructor at April 3, 2006 11:38 PM
You'll understand if I look elsewhere for information about this and get back to you..not that I don't take as gospel everythink Matt and Mark post...
Would you say, believe it from her own lips?
Posted by: vero at April 3, 2006 11:39 PM
Well at least we know where ash is coming from!!!
As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!
What Ash is really trying to say is " damnit, we just can't seem to get that conviction, they ellude us at every try". Poor, poor Ash & journalist friends!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 3, 2006 11:54 PM
I went reading to see what was being said and this was #20 comment on Polipundit
I live in Delay’s district. It’s around 60% Republican. Lampson’s shot at Congress just went from about 50% down to less than one in ten.
Lot of strong Republicans representing the area in the state Senate and House. May not even be a primary. Probably won’t since the regular primary has already been held. Republican executive committee may just meet and pick the strongest candidate.
Sorry Lampson. You moved into the district for nothing. The main issue in this race just changed from Delay and corruption to how close is Lampson to Nancy Pelosi’s views. Good luck with that one in this district.
works for me
Posted by: Paul at April 3, 2006 11:54 PM
Another B4B 2006 prediction bites the dust!
Posted by:
Jake at April 3, 2006 11:56 PM
Yep, this is one more seat that will stay in Republican hands. A true pyrric victory for the dems if there ever was on.
Posted by: Rich at April 4, 2006 12:14 AM
Bearman,
How was Tom Delay exonerated?
Posted by: Brian at April 4, 2006 12:25 AM
Any time a corrupt despicable politician gets his due it's a victory for all Americans. Delay exemplifies everything that is wrong with our political system. Good riddance. What sick pathetic individual.
Posted by: muirgeo at April 4, 2006 12:54 AM
Any time a corrupt despicable politician gets his due it's a victory for all Americans. Delay exemplifies everything that is wrong with our political system. Good riddance. What sick pathetic individual.
Posted by: muirgeo at April 4, 2006 12:56 AM
I guess I have to admit when I'm wrong! But, since the MSM is not constantly hammering away at this specific subject anymore it leaves alot to the imagination! I was specifically refering to the fact that Abramoff did not implicate him in any way, shape or form! I will be suprised if any REAL wrongdoing on Delays part is uncovered! Basically I am revelling in the fact that the incompetence of your party leaders would allow a democratic nation such as U.S. to be led by a Hitleresque regime full of criminals and liers, yet they can't seem to get a single indictment or conviction of any significance! That's all!!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 4, 2006 12:57 AM
"As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!"
Are you on crack?
Posted by: shortz at April 4, 2006 01:21 AM
"Are you on crack?"
Are you stupid? ( no need to answer, already know ) he had already said he was wrong Christ read the damn thread before posting. 30 minutes is plenty of time to read 18 other post - even for you
Posted by: vero at April 4, 2006 01:27 AM
The numerous things Delay has been accused of are much more serious then anything McKinneys ever done. So she whacked a guard? Big deal. Politicians of all stripes are hotheads, everyone knows that. I'd say people on B4B are less shocked at her behaviour than they are of her support for Resolution 635.
Compare her track record with Delays in terms of ethical behaviour.
Posted by: Lobes at April 4, 2006 01:34 AM
the first crack on the facade. you can't have indictments of his chief of staff and truly not believe delay was innocent. i mean, honestly, what is the definition of is?
Posted by: boohoo at April 4, 2006 01:45 AM
Again, Delay was "Guilty before proven innocent" right from the start. A simple alligation of corruption against a politician is often more affective then an actual conviction. In this case Delay is removed from power, and then from office, all without anything being proven.
Posted by:
Gozer at April 4, 2006 01:51 AM
So she whacked a guard? Big deal.
(sigh ) let me guess, you fling your poo on our military men and women and spit on them just for good measure, don't you. You do know that it is a big deal to strike a Law enforcement officer, do you not? Try Felony. Then she admitted today that she admits to misusing taxpayer money. Yeah she is a real DemocRAT winner, that is for sure.
Posted by: vero at April 4, 2006 01:54 AM
"I was specifically refering to the fact that Abramoff did not implicate him in any way, shape or form! "
He's resigning a few days after his ex-chief of staff pleads guilty. There's some bug powder headed towards the bug-man.
Posted by: shortz at April 4, 2006 02:02 AM
Vero, Flinging poo at the military? I think not. But if it makes you feel better to believe that I do then go right ahead. BTW, It was amusing to see Ash play you like a fiddle in the first few comments of this thread. I could feel the impotent outrage coming off my screen LoL!
To get to the point of my comment which you obviously missed during your endeavours to attribute fecal slinging tendencies to my person:
One person was having a bad morning and whacked a guard with a cellphone. Stupid.
The other person made premeditated threats against the bench of the Supreme court. Stupid, or worse?
Which is worse?
Posted by: Lobes at April 4, 2006 06:07 AM
Yup, leaving to spend more time with his precious family. What every PR hack says about every soon to be convicted felon. I'm going to misssss himmmmm.
Hey vero, what does Mckinney have to do with this slob taking a hike?
Gozer, why do you think it was so easy for everyone to presume this guy was guilty? Do you suppose his own actions over 20 years convicted him? BTW, even savvy repubs stayed away from this guy.
And bearmanusmc, "As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!" You must have hurt yourself playing with guns, even your friends on this thread can't support this drivel.
Paul, living in delay's district, a fun and healthy place to raise another group of nincompoops. You convict him yourself with your arguement that now a new repub can win. Delay was likely to sink the repub ship. All the rats had already left. Even rich agrees "Yep, this is one more seat that will stay in Republican hands." I guess even deep in the heart of texas they wouldn't reelect a scum bag.
Defending this guy really is not your best use of brain cells. Don't you suppose that even the top repub hacks retired him. Don't you suppose that in a few months you'll hear why he decided to "spend more time with his family"
I guess there are none more blind than those who will not see. I want to hear one of you say, good riddance.
Posted by: jacob at April 4, 2006 06:52 AM
"Gee, I wonder who should be NEXT?
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney"
Changing the subject, are we Paul?
Shortz has it right: "He's resigning a few days after his ex-chief of staff pleads guilty."
This wasn't about polls, or referendums, or anything else he blamed it on. He decided that it would be less devastating to the party if he went to jail as a private citizen, rather than as a Congressman.
Posted by: dav at April 4, 2006 08:22 AM
All the statements of "sleazy" and "corrupt." Yet I know of only one campaign that was fined by the FEC for violating election finance laws. It was, of course, Hillary Clinton's Campaign. So, when it comes to Clinton, "sleazy" and "corrupt" do indeed apply.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/printer_hc-fecfine.shtml
Posted by: JP at April 4, 2006 08:24 AM
No doubt Matt Margolis, a DeLay supporter and no doubt a supporter of convicted felon and fellow scumbag Abramson, is sad at this tragic turn of events.
But not nearly as sad as he will be when Bush is impeached and tried for war crimes. Face it, enough of the public is waking up to the facts, and the tide is turning. Whether it be Ken Lay, Tom DeLay, or other esteemed Bush "associates", the level of corruption, criminal behavior, and arrogance is being exposed. And make no mistake about it, the support for this criminal administration and the amoral cronies that feed off it is disintegrating faster than the polar ice cap.
Why not send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the scum brigade to Iraq, where they can hold "town hall meetings" to convince the Iraqis that they should be throwing flowers at our feet for bringing them freedom and democracy? Now there's a photo op for ya.
Posted by: cookiecorp at April 4, 2006 08:43 AM
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney"
Changing the subject, are we Paul?
Thank you for making my point
Posted by: Paul at April 4, 2006 09:04 AM
Guys, when Delay is behind bars I (figuratively)kiss every one of your dumb liberal blogging a..ess! Until then keep your fingers in your ears & shout lalalalalalalala at the top of your lungs! Especially you C.C. your quite the dreamer!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 4, 2006 10:27 AM
From the comments left by the right wing Republican supporters, I wonder exactly how much criminal activity by the Republican party members would it take before they realize what a gang of thieves and liars they are supporting, but then water seeks its own level.
Posted by: bngood40 at April 4, 2006 11:12 AM
"The numerous things Delay has been accused of are much more serious then anything McKinneys ever done."
Do you even realize what you're saying here? Being accused of something doesn't automatically mean you're guilty... otherwise, we wouldn't bother with a system of justice... we'd just hang all the "witches". So, until you can prove Delay did those things he's been accused of, and that it's either not something his accusers are also doing or that you are just as interested in seeing that those on the other side who are engaged in the same behavior are dealt with in the same manner, you cannot simply dismiss someone for whom there is no doubt of wrongdoing as being less bad than someone who has only been accused of wrongdoing.
Posted by: LNC at April 4, 2006 11:15 AM
Careful, there care BearmanUSMC....the only thing that will keep DeLay out of the pokey is a plea bargain and a sympathetic judge! I care less about Delay going to jail than I do reforming a system that has become hopelessly corrupted and beholden to special interests.
Seriously Bearman...this is about cleaning up the corruption and blantant conflict of interest that pervades Congress today. I believe most Democrats are also guilty, although maybe not to the extent of someone like Delay. This whole mess is a poster child for campaign finance reform if ever there was one.
Posted by: cookiecorp at April 4, 2006 11:25 AM
If only I could believe you C.C. Unfortunately you and yours are a culture of hate, mis-quotes, half facts, and powermongering! I think you'd go to any length to get back to power!!!
Posted by: bearmanUSMC at April 4, 2006 11:55 AM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!! You insane right wing hack jerk-offs!! Boy November is looking worse and worse for republiCAN'TS!!! Happy days to Democrats!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I am still laughing about this one!
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 4, 2006 03:06 PM
DeLay's war on American democracy, which included not just radical gerrymandering of Congressional districts and the formalization of pay-to-play policy-making in Washington but the crude manipulation of the recount that made George Bush President--is now coming to a close. Under indictment, forced from the House leadership by scandal and faced with the prospect of defeat in November, DeLay has signaled that he will quit the House of Representatives that he has effectively run for the better part of a decade.
Histories of this dark passage in the American story will record that no political figure fought harder or longer to dismantle traditions of compromise and cooperation in Congress than DeLay, a man who targeted those with whom he disagreed as zealously as he had once gone after the vermin he chased in his previous career as an exterminator. As far as DeLay was concerned, the niceties of democracy were a cruel impediment to his new career path. So he went to war with the process itself on behalf of his own political advancement and that of the paymasters in the industries he served more diligently than his Texas constituents, his conservative ideology or his Republican Party.
DeLay is gone, and there is a good chance that he will be convicted of at least a few of his crimes against democracy. But his greatest crimes will go unpunished, at least for so long as the Congress Tom DeLay created and the presidency that he made possible continue to punish America and the world.
Rest in Hell Tom Delay, we won't miss you.
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 4, 2006 03:56 PM
From truthout:
In 1988, DeLay gave a press conference in Texas to defend the military record of Dan Quayle, who had been tapped to accompany George H. W. Bush on the Republican presidential ticket. Quayle was under fire for having allegedly used family influence to secure him a safe spot in the Indiana National Guard, thus keeping him out of Vietnam. DeLay argued that Quayle's failure to serve in Vietnam was not his fault; he wanted to go, but minorities had taken all the available slots.
Seriously, he said that.
This is the man who once said, in a debate about the minimum wage, "Emotional appeals about working families trying to get by on $4.25 an hour are hard to resist. Fortunately, such families do not exist."
This is the man who once said, in a speech to bankers delivered eight days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, "Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes."
This is the man who once said, to a government employee who was trying to stop him from smoking on government property, "I am the federal government."
This man is gone now. After being indicted in Texas for campaign finance violations arising from his redistricting scheme, after surviving a tight primary challenge while staring down the barrel of a well-financed Democratic challenger, after watching his press secretary Michael Scanlon and his deputy chief of staff Tony Rudy cop pleas in the Jack Abramoff scandal investigation, after watching Rudy specifically accuse his chief of staff Ed Buckham of being neck-deep in the scandal in his plea confession, after sitting up nights wondering if the Abramoff scandal was going to land him in prison, DeLay decided enough was enough.
Time Magazine, which carried one of the first reports of his decision to step down, has DeLay adamantly denying any wrongdoing. "Asked if he had done anything illegal or immoral in public office," read the report by Mike Allen, "DeLay replied curtly, 'No.' Asked if he'd done anything immoral, he said with a laugh, 'We're all sinners.'"
It was the Democratic party that did this to him, of course. Wait, sorry. It was the "Democrat" party.
"I guarantee you," continued DeLay in the report, "if other offices were under the scrutiny I've been under in the last 10 years, with the Democrat Party announcing that they're going to destroy me, destroy my reputation, and that's how they're going to get rid of me, I guarantee you you're going to find, out of hundreds of people, somebody that's probably done something wrong."
That's right, Tom. It was the Democrat party, that awesome juggernaut of competence, which has shown time and again lo these past few years its Zeus-like ability to hurl devastating political lightning bolts from its lofty position, that took you down. They can stand up next to a mountain, so I hear, and chop it down with the edge of their hand.
Or maybe, Tom, just maybe, all this happened because you are the living embodiment of absolutely everything wrong in American politics. Forget your ideology, and your hateful divisiveness, and your shameless canoodling with the Taliban wing of fundamentalist Christianity. One cannot swing a cat by the tail in Washington DC these days without smacking someone who thinks the way you do. This doesn't make you unique, sadly.
No, your criminal misuse of the campaign funding laws, your outright disdain for the rules if they keep you from assuming absolute control, your almost Zen-like ability to operate beyond the confines of conscience and dignity, is why your presence has been a cancer on the body politic since the day you put down your bug extermination gear and tried a power tie on for size, and is why you're finished now. How deeply were you in the pocket of your contributors? You took an R.J. Reynolds corporate jet to get to your arraignment. There has to be some kind of award somewhere for behavior so brazenly craven.
It is hard to avoid a sense that something like justice, true justice, real justice, has been well served by the manner in which Tom DeLay has been laid low. Politics is a little cleaner today. Not a lot, maybe not even enough for folks to notice, but it is indeed just a little bit cleaner, now that he's gone.
Posted by: cookiecorp at April 4, 2006 04:40 PM
GREAT POST COOKIE! Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule and both commonly succeed, and are right... The United States has never developed an aristocracy really disinterested or an intelligentsia really intelligent. Its history is simply a record of vacillations between two gangs of frauds." H.L. Mencken
Posted by: It's Imperialism, Stupid! at April 4, 2006 05:22 PM
Indictment does NOT equal guilt. Just because DeLay was accused by a dubious leftwing hack prosecuter does NOT mean that Tom DeLay did anything wrong. If we really want to get rid of the culture of corruption, we need to vote out all democrats from all levels of government.
As far as I'm concerned Tom DeLay is totally innocent. It is his accusers who are corrupt.
One thing I like about Tom DeLay is that he knows how to win. He is a winner. And that is the reason for all the specious accusations against him by the leftwing losers. Tom DeLay beats them. Since they always lose against Tom DeLay, and they can't beat him legitimately, they shift to accusations. This is a well known part of the democrat playbook. They do the same thing with all successfull republicans.
While I don't like seeing a great man change his political career because of unfounded mudslinging, I take solace in the fact that it is Tom DeLay who will get the last laugh. He is doing what he always does. Win. By not running for re-election in his disctrict, he is assuring that republicans win the seat. This is what he does well. He is winning again.
Posted by: NDinformer at April 4, 2006 05:39 PM
I.I. stupid and the rest of you left wing kooks:
Aparently you moonbats don't realize that his resignation is bad news for you defeatocrats. It takes away your poster boy for fund raising and it removes a talking point punching bag.
At the same time you now have no chance of wining his seat, and an issue that might have helped you is now gone...sorry.
In the meantime, you've got Cynthia McKinney playing the race card which will turn off far more voters...
Posted by: phnxbmed at April 4, 2006 09:04 PM
A new lunatic appears......wait listen
As far as I'm concerned Tom DeLay is totally innocent. It is his accusers who are corrupt.
One thing I like about Tom DeLay is that he knows how to win. He is a winner.
While I don't like seeing a great man change his political career b......., I take solace in the fact that it is Tom DeLay who will get the last laugh. He is doing what he always does. Win
Jesus, I didn't think it was possible to be this delusional. It explains how the worst president ever - WPE - can get on national TV sound like a dunce and then everyone falls out congratulating the guy. No really it does explain it.
Posted by: jacob at April 4, 2006 10:56 PM
Yes it has been big fun to watch that smug ass Tom Delay turn tail and run.
We all know he would have loved to retain his seat in Congress, but knew he wasn't going to win. For an ego like his, losing this race would have been unbearable.
As much as I will miss the poster boy for the Culture of Corruption, I can't help smiling softly and thinking yes, there is a God.
Posted by: DeeCee at April 5, 2006 12:50 AM
Well, I told you guys on the right to mark my words about this. "Retire" indeed. Good riddance to all lawbreaking old Conservative boys from Texas who think they're above jerrymandering. They're not, and let's hope Texas goes Dem in the next election because of it.
Posted by: PurpleJay at April 5, 2006 08:01 AM
Gee, I wonder who should be NEXT?
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney
I don't want to delay my expression of joy. Yahooooooooooooooo. Bye slimey Tom
so Ash should Mckinney be next? just wondering
Frankly I don't even know who McKinney is.
Who is he?
She's just another crazy politician.
As for Tom, I don't really care at this point. The second this whole thing started he was presumed guilty and it won't matter even if he is found innocent he's been tarred and feathered and run out on the rail.
Hmmm, Ash has made the stereotypical cry of victory, triumphantly beating his chest over his vanquished opponent. It never enters the mind of the gorilla that his convictions may have been wrong or too hasty, only that he has won. He doesn't realize that what he's just killed was the lioness's cub, and the lioness is standing behind him.
"Frankly I don't even know who McKinney is.
Who is he?"
Bullshit - she is all over the news, she is in the last post before this one, you know, the one titled "McKinney Case Turned Over to Federal Prosecutor". You did not have to flat-out just lie about it. ANY credibility you has just been destroyed.
Now I wonder how many other times you have lied while posting here.
"He doesn't realize that what he's just killed was the lioness's cub, and the lioness is standing behind him."
? What the heck does that mean? There can't be anyone sleazier than Tom Delay.
You'd better watch calling me a liar vero. I've got a lioness standing behind me.
I skipped the post on McKinney but had heard about someone slugging a guard. Just didn't catch the name. Hey I used to cover City Hall in St. Louis as a journalist and stuff like that happened all the time. Didn't really picque my interest.
You'll understand if I look elsewhere for information about this and get back to you..not that I don't take as gospel everythink Matt and Mark post...
Ash,
Come now, playing stupid won't work with me. You know as well as I that you didn't see Delay as a possibly corrupt politician, but as a convicted as guilty Republican. You're not taking a stand against corruption, just Conservatives. The lioness obviously symbolizes, since you viewed Delay as a reprehensible conservative leader, as the enabled conservative base. They're going to think that media scrutiny forced him out of office.
I'm sorry if you didn't like the symbolism. It's a tad on the corny side, but it's alright for spur of the moment.
You'll understand if I look elsewhere for information about this and get back to you..not that I don't take as gospel everythink Matt and Mark post...
Would you say, believe it from her own lips?
Well at least we know where ash is coming from!!!
As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!
What Ash is really trying to say is " damnit, we just can't seem to get that conviction, they ellude us at every try". Poor, poor Ash & journalist friends!!!
I went reading to see what was being said and this was #20 comment on Polipundit
works for me
Another B4B 2006 prediction bites the dust!
Yep, this is one more seat that will stay in Republican hands. A true pyrric victory for the dems if there ever was on.
Bearman,
How was Tom Delay exonerated?
Any time a corrupt despicable politician gets his due it's a victory for all Americans. Delay exemplifies everything that is wrong with our political system. Good riddance. What sick pathetic individual.
Any time a corrupt despicable politician gets his due it's a victory for all Americans. Delay exemplifies everything that is wrong with our political system. Good riddance. What sick pathetic individual.
I guess I have to admit when I'm wrong! But, since the MSM is not constantly hammering away at this specific subject anymore it leaves alot to the imagination! I was specifically refering to the fact that Abramoff did not implicate him in any way, shape or form! I will be suprised if any REAL wrongdoing on Delays part is uncovered! Basically I am revelling in the fact that the incompetence of your party leaders would allow a democratic nation such as U.S. to be led by a Hitleresque regime full of criminals and liers, yet they can't seem to get a single indictment or conviction of any significance! That's all!!!!
"As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!"
Are you on crack?
"Are you on crack?"
Are you stupid? ( no need to answer, already know ) he had already said he was wrong Christ read the damn thread before posting. 30 minutes is plenty of time to read 18 other post - even for you
The numerous things Delay has been accused of are much more serious then anything McKinneys ever done. So she whacked a guard? Big deal. Politicians of all stripes are hotheads, everyone knows that. I'd say people on B4B are less shocked at her behaviour than they are of her support for Resolution 635.
Compare her track record with Delays in terms of ethical behaviour.
the first crack on the facade. you can't have indictments of his chief of staff and truly not believe delay was innocent. i mean, honestly, what is the definition of is?
Again, Delay was "Guilty before proven innocent" right from the start. A simple alligation of corruption against a politician is often more affective then an actual conviction. In this case Delay is removed from power, and then from office, all without anything being proven.
So she whacked a guard? Big deal.
(sigh ) let me guess, you fling your poo on our military men and women and spit on them just for good measure, don't you. You do know that it is a big deal to strike a Law enforcement officer, do you not? Try Felony. Then she admitted today that she admits to misusing taxpayer money. Yeah she is a real DemocRAT winner, that is for sure.
"I was specifically refering to the fact that Abramoff did not implicate him in any way, shape or form! "
He's resigning a few days after his ex-chief of staff pleads guilty. There's some bug powder headed towards the bug-man.
Vero, Flinging poo at the military? I think not. But if it makes you feel better to believe that I do then go right ahead. BTW, It was amusing to see Ash play you like a fiddle in the first few comments of this thread. I could feel the impotent outrage coming off my screen LoL!
To get to the point of my comment which you obviously missed during your endeavours to attribute fecal slinging tendencies to my person:
One person was having a bad morning and whacked a guard with a cellphone. Stupid.
The other person made premeditated threats against the bench of the Supreme court. Stupid, or worse?
Which is worse?
Yup, leaving to spend more time with his precious family. What every PR hack says about every soon to be convicted felon. I'm going to misssss himmmmm.
Hey vero, what does Mckinney have to do with this slob taking a hike?
Gozer, why do you think it was so easy for everyone to presume this guy was guilty? Do you suppose his own actions over 20 years convicted him? BTW, even savvy repubs stayed away from this guy.
And bearmanusmc, "As for Tom, glad to see him exonerated, hope he enjoys retirement and plays lots of golf!" You must have hurt yourself playing with guns, even your friends on this thread can't support this drivel.
Paul, living in delay's district, a fun and healthy place to raise another group of nincompoops. You convict him yourself with your arguement that now a new repub can win. Delay was likely to sink the repub ship. All the rats had already left. Even rich agrees "Yep, this is one more seat that will stay in Republican hands." I guess even deep in the heart of texas they wouldn't reelect a scum bag.
Defending this guy really is not your best use of brain cells. Don't you suppose that even the top repub hacks retired him. Don't you suppose that in a few months you'll hear why he decided to "spend more time with his family"
I guess there are none more blind than those who will not see. I want to hear one of you say, good riddance.
"Gee, I wonder who should be NEXT?
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney"
Changing the subject, are we Paul?
Shortz has it right: "He's resigning a few days after his ex-chief of staff pleads guilty."
This wasn't about polls, or referendums, or anything else he blamed it on. He decided that it would be less devastating to the party if he went to jail as a private citizen, rather than as a Congressman.
All the statements of "sleazy" and "corrupt." Yet I know of only one campaign that was fined by the FEC for violating election finance laws. It was, of course, Hillary Clinton's Campaign. So, when it comes to Clinton, "sleazy" and "corrupt" do indeed apply.
http://www.judicialwatch.org/printer_hc-fecfine.shtml
No doubt Matt Margolis, a DeLay supporter and no doubt a supporter of convicted felon and fellow scumbag Abramson, is sad at this tragic turn of events.
But not nearly as sad as he will be when Bush is impeached and tried for war crimes. Face it, enough of the public is waking up to the facts, and the tide is turning. Whether it be Ken Lay, Tom DeLay, or other esteemed Bush "associates", the level of corruption, criminal behavior, and arrogance is being exposed. And make no mistake about it, the support for this criminal administration and the amoral cronies that feed off it is disintegrating faster than the polar ice cap.
Why not send Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, and the rest of the scum brigade to Iraq, where they can hold "town hall meetings" to convince the Iraqis that they should be throwing flowers at our feet for bringing them freedom and democracy? Now there's a photo op for ya.
Two-face Dems will of course slither away on McKinney"
Changing the subject, are we Paul?
Thank you for making my point
Guys, when Delay is behind bars I (figuratively)kiss every one of your dumb liberal blogging a..ess! Until then keep your fingers in your ears & shout lalalalalalalala at the top of your lungs! Especially you C.C. your quite the dreamer!!!
From the comments left by the right wing Republican supporters, I wonder exactly how much criminal activity by the Republican party members would it take before they realize what a gang of thieves and liars they are supporting, but then water seeks its own level.
"The numerous things Delay has been accused of are much more serious then anything McKinneys ever done."
Do you even realize what you're saying here? Being accused of something doesn't automatically mean you're guilty... otherwise, we wouldn't bother with a system of justice... we'd just hang all the "witches". So, until you can prove Delay did those things he's been accused of, and that it's either not something his accusers are also doing or that you are just as interested in seeing that those on the other side who are engaged in the same behavior are dealt with in the same manner, you cannot simply dismiss someone for whom there is no doubt of wrongdoing as being less bad than someone who has only been accused of wrongdoing.
Careful, there care BearmanUSMC....the only thing that will keep DeLay out of the pokey is a plea bargain and a sympathetic judge! I care less about Delay going to jail than I do reforming a system that has become hopelessly corrupted and beholden to special interests.
Seriously Bearman...this is about cleaning up the corruption and blantant conflict of interest that pervades Congress today. I believe most Democrats are also guilty, although maybe not to the extent of someone like Delay. This whole mess is a poster child for campaign finance reform if ever there was one.
If only I could believe you C.C. Unfortunately you and yours are a culture of hate, mis-quotes, half facts, and powermongering! I think you'd go to any length to get back to power!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA!!! You insane right wing hack jerk-offs!! Boy November is looking worse and worse for republiCAN'TS!!! Happy days to Democrats!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! I am still laughing about this one!
DeLay's war on American democracy, which included not just radical gerrymandering of Congressional districts and the formalization of pay-to-play policy-making in Washington but the crude manipulation of the recount that made George Bush President--is now coming to a close. Under indictment, forced from the House leadership by scandal and faced with the prospect of defeat in November, DeLay has signaled that he will quit the House of Representatives that he has effectively run for the better part of a decade.
Histories of this dark passage in the American story will record that no political figure fought harder or longer to dismantle traditions of compromise and cooperation in Congress than DeLay, a man who targeted those with whom he disagreed as zealously as he had once gone after the vermin he chased in his previous career as an exterminator. As far as DeLay was concerned, the niceties of democracy were a cruel impediment to his new career path. So he went to war with the process itself on behalf of his own political advancement and that of the paymasters in the industries he served more diligently than his Texas constituents, his conservative ideology or his Republican Party.
DeLay is gone, and there is a good chance that he will be convicted of at least a few of his crimes against democracy. But his greatest crimes will go unpunished, at least for so long as the Congress Tom DeLay created and the presidency that he made possible continue to punish America and the world.
Rest in Hell Tom Delay, we won't miss you.
From truthout:
In 1988, DeLay gave a press conference in Texas to defend the military record of Dan Quayle, who had been tapped to accompany George H. W. Bush on the Republican presidential ticket. Quayle was under fire for having allegedly used family influence to secure him a safe spot in the Indiana National Guard, thus keeping him out of Vietnam. DeLay argued that Quayle's failure to serve in Vietnam was not his fault; he wanted to go, but minorities had taken all the available slots.
Seriously, he said that.
This is the man who once said, in a debate about the minimum wage, "Emotional appeals about working families trying to get by on $4.25 an hour are hard to resist. Fortunately, such families do not exist."
This is the man who once said, in a speech to bankers delivered eight days before the 2003 invasion of Iraq, "Nothing is more important in the face of a war than cutting taxes."
This is the man who once said, to a government employee who was trying to stop him from smoking on government property, "I am the federal government."
This man is gone now. After being indicted in Texas for campaign finance violations arising from his redistricting scheme, after surviving a tight primary challenge while staring down the barrel of a well-financed Democratic challenger, after watching his press secretary Michael Scanlon and his deputy chief of staff Tony Rudy cop pleas in the Jack Abramoff scandal investigation, after watching Rudy specifically accuse his chief of staff Ed Buckham of being neck-deep in the scandal in his plea confession, after sitting up nights wondering if the Abramoff scandal was going to land him in prison, DeLay decided enough was enough.
Time Magazine, which carried one of the first reports of his decision to step down, has DeLay adamantly denying any wrongdoing. "Asked if he had done anything illegal or immoral in public office," read the report by Mike Allen, "DeLay replied curtly, 'No.' Asked if he'd done anything immoral, he said with a laugh, 'We're all sinners.'"
It was the Democratic party that did this to him, of course. Wait, sorry. It was the "Democrat" party.
"I guarantee you," continued DeLay in the report, "if other offices were under the scrutiny I've been under in the last 10 years, with the Democrat Party announcing that they're going to destroy me, destroy my reputation, and that's how they're going to get rid of me, I guarantee you you're going to find, out of hundreds of people, somebody that's probably done something wrong."
That's right, Tom. It was the Democrat party, that awesome juggernaut of competence, which has shown time and again lo these past few years its Zeus-like ability to hurl devastating political lightning bolts from its lofty position, that took you down. They can stand up next to a mountain, so I hear, and chop it down with the edge of their hand.
Or maybe, Tom, just maybe, all this happened because you are the living embodiment of absolutely everything wrong in American politics. Forget your ideology, and your hateful divisiveness, and your shameless canoodling with the Taliban wing of fundamentalist Christianity. One cannot swing a cat by the tail in Washington DC these days without smacking someone who thinks the way you do. This doesn't make you unique, sadly.
No, your criminal misuse of the campaign funding laws, your outright disdain for the rules if they keep you from assuming absolute control, your almost Zen-like ability to operate beyond the confines of conscience and dignity, is why your presence has been a cancer on the body politic since the day you put down your bug extermination gear and tried a power tie on for size, and is why you're finished now. How deeply were you in the pocket of your contributors? You took an R.J. Reynolds corporate jet to get to your arraignment. There has to be some kind of award somewhere for behavior so brazenly craven.
It is hard to avoid a sense that something like justice, true justice, real justice, has been well served by the manner in which Tom DeLay has been laid low. Politics is a little cleaner today. Not a lot, maybe not even enough for folks to notice, but it is indeed just a little bit cleaner, now that he's gone.
GREAT POST COOKIE! Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
"Under democracy one party always devotes its chief energies to trying to prove that the other party is unfit to rule and both commonly succeed, and are right... The United States has never developed an aristocracy really disinterested or an intelligentsia really intelligent. Its history is simply a record of vacillations between two gangs of frauds." H.L. Mencken
Indictment does NOT equal guilt. Just because DeLay was accused by a dubious leftwing hack prosecuter does NOT mean that Tom DeLay did anything wrong. If we really want to get rid of the culture of corruption, we need to vote out all democrats from all levels of government.
As far as I'm concerned Tom DeLay is totally innocent. It is his accusers who are corrupt.
One thing I like about Tom DeLay is that he knows how to win. He is a winner. And that is the reason for all the specious accusations against him by the leftwing losers. Tom DeLay beats them. Since they always lose against Tom DeLay, and they can't beat him legitimately, they shift to accusations. This is a well known part of the democrat playbook. They do the same thing with all successfull republicans.
While I don't like seeing a great man change his political career because of unfounded mudslinging, I take solace in the fact that it is Tom DeLay who will get the last laugh. He is doing what he always does. Win. By not running for re-election in his disctrict, he is assuring that republicans win the seat. This is what he does well. He is winning again.
I.I. stupid and the rest of you left wing kooks:
Aparently you moonbats don't realize that his resignation is bad news for you defeatocrats. It takes away your poster boy for fund raising and it removes a talking point punching bag.
At the same time you now have no chance of wining his seat, and an issue that might have helped you is now gone...sorry.
In the meantime, you've got Cynthia McKinney playing the race card which will turn off far more voters...
A new lunatic appears......wait listen
As far as I'm concerned Tom DeLay is totally innocent. It is his accusers who are corrupt.
One thing I like about Tom DeLay is that he knows how to win. He is a winner.
While I don't like seeing a great man change his political career b......., I take solace in the fact that it is Tom DeLay who will get the last laugh. He is doing what he always does. Win
Jesus, I didn't think it was possible to be this delusional. It explains how the worst president ever - WPE - can get on national TV sound like a dunce and then everyone falls out congratulating the guy. No really it does explain it.
Yes it has been big fun to watch that smug ass Tom Delay turn tail and run.
We all know he would have loved to retain his seat in Congress, but knew he wasn't going to win. For an ego like his, losing this race would have been unbearable.
As much as I will miss the poster boy for the Culture of Corruption, I can't help smiling softly and thinking yes, there is a God.
Well, I told you guys on the right to mark my words about this. "Retire" indeed. Good riddance to all lawbreaking old Conservative boys from Texas who think they're above jerrymandering. They're not, and let's hope Texas goes Dem in the next election because of it.